Re: Transfer TB
> In any case, backing up manually is always recommended; but I would > use the manual way only if the automated backup-restore doesn't work. > It has worked without problems the last couple of times over the > years. You don't NEED to copy the registry key. If you don't do it, you will have to do a few extra steps like pasting your license key and a few other setting. I have forgotten it or suffered a crash and it is not really a big deal. You would want to get any custom dictionaries which I never do, and back up the images folder in the program folder which I do since I have a ton of customizations The TBK file is the best solution IF it works and doesn't get corrupted -- Rick 7.4.4.2 Windows, 10, 0, 14393 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Transfer TB
>>> Copy your mail directory to somewhere where you can restore from. >>> Run this and change the path to where you want it to go and rename >>> it to something that makes sense for you as this example would put >>> "test.reg" in the "C:\test". i put mine in the mail directory >>> regedit /e c:\test\test.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT >> Thank you! > This works only if you have the same directory structure and disk > names. ??? How so? I have my mail directory on my E:\ drive. You have to adjust the path of the REG file that was in my example, but then it works > Another way is to use the internal backup function (under Tools) and > create a .tbk file. Move this file to a removable disk. > I have done this a couple of times. That is the ideal way if the TBK file doesn't go corrupt which I have had happen several times. I personally don't trust it but you are correct - that is the best way to do it -- Rick 7.4.4.2 Windows, 10, 0, 14393 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Transfer TB
> Hi! > It is too many years ago I transferred The Bat from an old to a new > PC, so that I forgot how to do that. > Now it is time again to such a transfer ... my old PC will be replaced > by a new one. So > How do I completely The Bat with all its settings, the way, that > everything will be the same as it is at my old PC? > I tried the 'Backup' option, but I did not get it all back that way. Copy your mail directory to somewhere where you can restore from. Run this and change the path to where you want it to go and rename it to something that makes sense for you as this example would put "test.reg" in the "C:\test". i put mine in the mail directory regedit /e c:\test\test.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT Also copy things like the images folder if you have customized smilies and any customized dictionaries from the Bat's program folder (or just export them and import them into the new installation) -- Rick 7.4.4.2 Windows, 10, 0, 14393 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recovering address book file
> Further on Recuva's progress. It did find the .abd. But, when she > tried to open it from the addressbook, it didn't show the > filename, and it had 0 entries. > Many thanks for your help. Somehow the file must have gotten > shredded in the accidental delete. OUCH Sorry to hear that. Been there so many times that I now have redundant backups -- Rick 7.4.2.6 Christmas Edition (BETA) Windows, 10, 0, 14393 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recovering address book file
>>> An addressbook file was accidentally deleted. It is not in the >>> trash folder. Is there a way to recover it? Many thanks for help. R>> Get recuva R>> http://www.piriform.com/recuva R>> Install it on a stick it you can although it "probably" won't R>> overwrite the latest lost files if you install it to your hard drike > Thank you Rick, we'll try it. I wonder why it didn't go to a > Trash folder? Did you have an abnormal reboot? You might try searching that mail folder for that file just in case it got movied I use another goodie called "Everything" from voidtools.com It searches all your hard drives instantly. The have a portable installation but I use the full install. Just start typing a file name (wildcard work) and it if is there it will show. A right click gives the usual options plus "Open path" that opens Windows explorer and highlights the file VERY handy! > -- Rick 7.4.2.6 Christmas Edition (BETA) Windows, 10, 0, 14393 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recovering address book file
> An addressbook file was accidentally deleted. It is not in the > trash folder. Is there a way to recover it? Many thanks for help. Get recuva http://www.piriform.com/recuva Install it on a stick it you can although it "probably" won't overwrite the latest lost files if you install it to your hard drike -- Rick 7.4.2.6 Christmas Edition (BETA) Windows, 10, 0, 14393 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lost default folders
> Hi list >> Have you tried crtl-alt-del-L? > Hmm - what is this? Never saw this shortcut. I only I know this one: > "ctrl-alt-del". I think it is SHIFT / CONTROL / ALT L It will restore hidden folders including dictionaries, imgfiles etc but also the ones that were accidentally removed from the bat Try it. It will pop a message as to how many folders it found If that does NOT do it there is one more trick that can be done -- Rick 7.4.2.4 Christmas Edition (BETA) Windows, 10, 0, 14393 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Google continually asking for access permissions
> I don't get that issue with Google on Version 7.3.12.18 (ALPHA) > (64-bit) > Every once in a while my gmail or one of my yahoo accounts start doing > something like this and I have to log into their webmail to clear the > problem. And sometimes it might be an issue with TB! not recognising a > server certificate. Or maybe > <http://www.ghacks.net/2014/07/21/gmail-starts-block-less-secure-apps-enable-access/> I will chack that out but I do not use 2 step unless forced to do so and I think my issue has to do with google contaccts syncing in te address book Thanks for the reply! -- Rick 7.4.0.3 (BETA) Windows, 10, 0, 14393 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Google continually asking for access permissions
> Hello Rick, > On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:40:45 -0500 GMT (20-Dec-16, 08:40 +0700 GMT), > Rick wrote: >> This was an old problem that surfaced again since the last beta (and a >> system reset) >> When I start the progtam, I get MANY prompts allow google to access in The >> Bat! >> Would someone please remind me how to stop this annoyance? > Is this a beta problem? Because I am not experiencing this with the > release version. It very well may be as I have only started seeing it since 2 betas ago. I did ask in there first but got no response (I just asked again and will open a bug tracker report) Thank you - your reply and information are most helpful It probably IS a beta issue -- Rick 7.4.0.3 (BETA) Windows, 10, 0, 14393 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Google continually asking for access permissions
This was an old problem that surfaced again since the last beta (and a system reset) When I start the progtam, I get MANY prompts allow google to access in The Bat! Would someone please remind me how to stop this annoyance? Thanks -- Rick 7.4.0.3 (BETA) Windows, 10, 0, 14393 Current beta is 7.4.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Suddenly can't delete messages from one folder
> Hello, > about an hour ago, I noticed that messages deleted from one folder > would pop right back, instead of staying in the trash folder. > I suspect it has something to do with using Gmail/Imap, but can't > for my life figure out what could be going on and what could have > changed. Yes it is an issue with IMAP and Gmail. The bat does not clean out the "ALL MAIL" folder nor the spam folder. You have to access the web every so often and clean it yourself. I reported it in bug tracker once but no one seemed worried about it -- Rick 7.3.12.29 (BETA) Windows, 10, 0, 14393 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Antispamsniper
> As far as AntiSpamSniper making decisions before emails even leave the server > suggests you have the "Pro" version which advertises that procedure as a > *plus* > to AntiSpamSniper. However, I think that feature can either be adjusted or > eliminated entirely but keep in mind that I'm new to AntiSpamSniper and really > don't know what I'm talking about. @all... Does anyone know if possible where to disable in antispamsniper the 'leave mail at the server' option? There is no such setting per se, but under the ACCOUNTS tab in the settings, there are a couple of things to check out. I have NO servers in there and am not having the problem, but you can add them and then configure all sorts of things. You might check with the Antispam sniper support -- Rick 7.3.12.28 (BETA) Windows, 10, 0, 14393 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Antispamsniper
> > Antispamsniper obviously marks many mails as spam which I did not > mark myself so. Among them are even mails for which I was waiting, > like order confirmations by Amazon. > > My TB has separate folders for Amazon, Ebay, Facebook, etc. When I > got mails there I delete them after reading. When I've done that for > awhile, Antispamsniper marks those mails as spam according to its > logfile. > > This is really problematic.I do not have time to check each day that > logfile and undelete mails. > > So, I could use some advise how to solve this problem. You can go in and edit the white list and the black list. It is a good idea to go through them once in a while and remove anything that isn't right. See if the Amazon mails were accidently black listed for instance and then add amazon the white list (using wild cards and you feel appropriate If it gets real bad, just reset the training data base and start over -- Rick 7.3.12.28 (BETA) Windows, 10, 0, 14393 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing directory
> interestingly enough I changed the directory now and TB rebuilt all > the folders and once I restarted the bat, not only did everything work > but all the old emails were already there. I did not expect that. I guess when you change the mail folder it does the move for you. I did not know that Thanks! -- Rick So I tell you, thus shall you think of all this fleeting world: A star at dawn, a bubble in a stream; A flash of lightening in a summer cloud, A flickering lamp, a phantom, and a dream. - Buddha Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing directory
> I have my Bat configured to store all mail on an internal separate > drive different from the Os. Same here > This drive appears to have issues I want to remove it before checking > it out further or replacing it. At the moment it still works and I > have a full backup. > If I change the directory for mail to my OS drive for now - will this > only affect new messages? In other words if I revert back to my old > setup tomorrow either with a new harddrive or convinced that the error > message can be ignored, I would "only" not have today's emails in my > folder history Yes you can revert. You can save out any new messages and import them to the new location. If you are taking it into the shop,just copy the data folder to your OS drive and put it back when you get the drive situation figured out -- Rick We have no reason to ask when sorrow comes,"Why did this happen to me?"unless we ask the same question for every moment of happiness that comes our way Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Antispamsniper
> Thanks Adrian. As can be seen from my earlier reply to Lore, I was able to use > Belarc to determine what (bit)version I am using. I just downloaded and > installed A-SS this morning and did a fetch - as luck would have it, none of > the > fetched emails wound up in the JUNK folder. I guess I should be thankful. You will be training that for a bit :) Another trick is to make a filter that deletes emails automatically (and optionally save them out for sending to spam reporting services) I have a bunch on my list as I am sure I will not be getting any wanted emails fro hotbootycall.com :)) -- Rick Blessed are the cracked, for they will let in the light. Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat!
>> I will be moving to another new Windows 7 machine which will >> support 64-bit (actually, the old computer supports 64-bit--not sure why I'm >> using the 32-bit). >> I have a current backup named BatBackup2.tbk which is stored off-site. >> Since I'm a bit of a dunce at this, can someone let me know where I >> can find instructions about moving everything to a new machine? A wise man would zip up the entire mail folder and put it somewhere (Disk, dropbox etc) just in case Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error message
> Hello Sam, > On Saturday, July 30, 2016 you wrote: SB>> Saturday, July 30, 2016, 10:31:02 AM, Jack wrote: JSL>>> Curious, I did a search for my addressbook file. I found two that matched (sort JSL>>> of) the file in question. One was C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The JSL>>> Bat!\ADDRBOOK.INI and the other was C:\Program Files (x86)\The JSL>>> Bat!\jackADDRBOOK.INI. The most recent write to either file was the latter, JSL>>> today, so I assume that's the working file. The last write to the former was way JSL>>> back in Aug of 2015 so I don't think that's a valid file. I remember trying to JSL>>> learn more about the address books some time ago and that file may have been one JSL>>> I created in my learning quest. So much for cleaning up after yourself. JSL>>> As a test, just now I changed the name of the JSL>>> C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The JSL>>> Bat!\ADDRBOOK.INI file and then opened the address book while in TB!, made some JSL>>> changes and then closed the address book without any difficulty. So, that, coupled JSL>>> with the ancient write date leads me to believe that that file is not part of JSL>>> the working TB! SB>> So here's what I recommend, close TB!. SB>> Copy the ADDRBOOK.INI from its location in Program Files to the location in AppData. SB>> Open TB!. SB>> Open the Address Book. SB>> In the Address Book window, select the File menu, then select Load Address Book Set... SB>> Browse to the location of the ADDRBOOK.INI in the AppData location (the one SB>> that you just copied, so it should be up to date) and load that Address Book. SB>> Hopefully now, TB! will continue to load that Address Book and you SB>> shouldn't have any problems with write permissions. > Well, I tried what you suggested, for quite a while to no avail. Some attempts > resulted in an address book containing a single address which was to The Bat! > Team. All my personal addresses were gone. No amount of copying the > jackADDRBOOK.INI file to a couple of different locations and then loading > from those locations ever resulted in my regaining my complete address book. > Only when I loaded from the Program Files(x86) location would my addresses > come > back. > So, for the moment I'm giving up. I had already given the TB! shortcut > permission to run as an administrator which solved the original problem in the > first post. > It's entirely possible I'm doing something wrong (as is my wont) but I'll > never > know without further experimentation, which scares the squat out of me. Jack Move your mail directory from APDATA to MY Documents Restart the bat and mpint the mail directory to the new location. If there is ANY issue go to windows explorer and to your new mail folder and add yourself to the security lost with full permissions and propagate it to all items in the folder. You can zip up the original mail folder to the desktop for restoration in case something goes HORRIBLY WRONG Which it won't but you have a path to step back ward You probably will not have to add yourself to the permission list not take ownership of the folder And yes, if you have permissions as ADMINISTRATOR or EVERYONE you should logically NOT have to add your account name with full permissions. Agreed. Microsoft Agrees. Yet it magically fixes just this type of issue I have a small book of fixes that Microsoft swears you do not have to do yet when you do them, the issue magically disappears -- Rick Windows, , 10,, 0 Version 7.2 (64-bit) Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mystery folders
> dictionaries > hints > |_ENG > imgfiles > Speller > Trash > Inbox > Outbox > Sent Mail > all containing zero messages. > The top of her account tree of course contains these same folders with the > exception of "dictionaries", "hints>ENG", "imgfiles" and Speller. The Trash, > Inbox, Outbox and Sent Mail all function as you would expect. So why are these > folders at the bottom of the account tree and what function (if any) do they > serve? > Anyone know where they came from? Can I safely delete them? SOMEONE pressed CONTROL ALT DELETE L to recover folders and those were there for showing. You can delete them and choose "make invisible" and they are gone In earlier versions I think it was DELETE / Leave files on disk or something like that DON't delete them to trash or worse WIPE them Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Questions about addressing
> First question: > When addressing, clicking a blank area in one of the windows (To: CC: > BCC: and Subject:), a little pick-list appears. It seems that these > suggestions come from both the address book and from e-mails received > (maybe even sent) Very convenient until > one of these people has changed his/her e-mail address. The > suggestions from the address book appear with the new (i.e., changed) > e-mail address. However, the other appear as well. Chance of picking > the wrong suggested addressee. How can I delete the unwanted addresses > from the pick-list? > Second question: > When sending a group e-mail, is it possible to omit one of the > addressees on an ad-hoc basis. Let's say that I remind this group of > our weekly meeting. Next week, at the weekly meeting, we plan a > surprise birthday party for one of the people. When I write about this > event to the group, clearly, I do not want to tip off the celebrant. > How do I sent mail to the group but omitting one person? > Sure if it is a small group, it is possible just to select from the > address book the people for whom the mail is intended, but a group > of 50? Ugh! Deleting is tricky. To the far right of each line there are 3 boxes. Select the leftmost one an the list will drop down. Anu clicks or keys will close it EXCEPT the down arrow. Arrow down to the offending address then hit the delete key It takes a steady hand. If the lost rolls up unexpectedly a couple of times - it isn't you :)) Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
REGEX Help
> I think I need a regex to pull out the address correctly. I didn't want to hijack David's thread (actually I did) but I could use some help with regex I need something to clean up my subject line removing some specific items. Some people have posted some ones that cleanup RE: but I need a bit more than that I am not rich but I could pay a fee for that -- Rick Windows, , 6,, 3 Version 7.1.12 (Christmas Edition) (64-bit) Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.12 Registration code
> Hi guys! > I finally built a new (21st century) PC and installed my last registered > copy of TheBat! (version 2.12) on it. > Everything's great thanks, except I need to enter my registration code and > of course I do not have a copy! > Can anyone please tell me how to retrieve my registration? Contact support is the only way -- Rick Windows, , 6,, 3 Version 7.0.2.2 (BETA) (64-bit) Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Regex to clean up subject
Thanks!!
--
Rick
> On Monday, August 31, 2015, 5:04:44, Rick Grunwald wrote:
>> Someone once gave me an excellent regular expression that would clean
>> up the subject of things like [this] and {that}
>> I lost it along with all my mail in a hard drive crash
>> If someone has it, could you kindly repost it?
> Here's the one I use:
> %SETPATTREGEXP=/^(?:(?:[^:]{0,4}(?:[\[\(]\d+[\]\)])?:)?\s*(\[[^\]]*\]\s)|(?:(?:[^:]{0,4}(?:[\[\(]\d+[\]\)])?:)?\s*(?:\[[^\]]*\]\s*)?)?)%-
> \s*(?:(?:[^:]{0,4}(?:[\[\(]\d+[\]\)])?:)?\s*(?:\[[^\]]*\]\s*)?)*%-
> (.*?)%-
> ([\(\[].+[\)\]])?$/%-
> %RegExpBlindMatch="%OSubj"%-
> %Subject='Re: %SUBPATT="1"%SUBPATT="2"'
The Bat !: Version 7.0.2.1 (BETA) (64-bit)
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Re: Regex to clean up subject
Thanks! I had one removed some of the stuff added to headers by Yahoo groups etc. I appreciate the reply and did bookmark that site -- Rick > Hello Fred, > On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:54:22 -0400GMT Fred wrote: >>> Marck Pearlstone has a library of useful macros at >>> <http://cgi.silverstones.com/library.php>. F>> Unfortunately, right now I got "Warning: mysql_connect() F>> [function.mysql-connect]: Access denied for user 'marck'@'80.229.140.13' F>> (using password: YES) in D:\Data\wwwroot\cgi\library.php on line 28 Unable F>> to open db: Access denied for user 'marck'@'80.229.140.13' (using password: F>> YES)". > Try this one: http://silverstones.com/thebat/samples.html > In the reply template section you will find the reply-cleaner. The Bat !: Version 7.0.2.1 (BETA) (64-bit) Windows:Windows major version number 3 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Regex to clean up subject
Someone once gave me an excellent regular expression that would clean
up the subject of things like [this] and {that}
I lost it along with all my mail in a hard drive crash
If someone has it, could you kindly repost it?
Thanks
--
Rick
The Bat !: Version 7.0.2.1 (BETA) (64-bit)
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major version number
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Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
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Re: Upgrading to v7.0.0.56 icon animation
G-d, it's been so long I almost top posted. :eek: -- Rick There are people in the world so hungry that God cannot appear to them except in the form of bread. Mahatma Gandhi Version 7.0.0.56 (64-bit) on Windows 6.3 Build 9600 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrading to v7.0.0.56 icon animation
Do any of you know if this is Win7 behavior or is it something changed from TBat4? We must have flapping! I don't remember the details, but it was a Win 7 issue. They made changes that stopped the ability to have animated icons. Someone may know and remember ,or and more accurately than I do Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [T/N: 5E5340E0]: Problem with Root Certificate
I tried them all, but no luck. Did you try importing them into the address book? That is where they go and I didn't mention it in the first email Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [T/N: 5E5340E0]: Problem with Root Certificate
How do I rectify the situation? I have tried to search for a solution, but generally end up nowhere. I've spent the best part of a week trying to get my web host to resolve it, but they say they have tested it and it is OK. Of course it would be OK as they are using a matched set of certificates, but I seem to be missing something. Clicking the link shown in the account log, takes me a site that shows a whole lot of PDF documents, but nothing about downloading a certificate. I don't have that much hair to pull out now. Try these http://secure.globalsign.net/cacert/Root-R1.crt https://www.geotrust.com/resources/root-certificates/index.html http://pki.google.com/ Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
The one thing I miss in Voyager is the chance to associate it to the mailto: protocol. I tried every hack I am capable of in the Windows registry but still I can't get mailto: urls to open in Voyager. I still guess it must be possible somehow. I searched around, I asked here twice (still asking) but nobody came out with a solution so far. The problem comes because voyager is portable and doesn't make registry entries The keys you could BACKUP and then play with are HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Clients\Mail\The Bat! Simple MAPI 64-bit and / or HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Clients\Mail\The Bat! Simple MAPI 32-bit Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Subject: history
I have a particular subject that I use frequently. How can I nail it in the Subject: history data so that it will always be there? Thanks. Use a template either address book for one person, group or a folder template (or a quick template) %SUBJECT=History data or whatever you want -- Rick I'm having another It seemed like a good idea at the time moment Version 6.8.2.3 (BETA) (64-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Certificate
G'day, Over the weekend, my web site host moved me to a new server as part of an upgrade, and this has changed the SMTP and POP3 servers from aus39.unlimited-space.com to now aus52.unlimited space. This requires TLS on port 995 for POP3 and port 465 for SMTP. I've made the necessary changes, however when I go to receive messages, I get a message telling me that The server didn't provide a root certificate during the session and there is no corresponding root certificate in the addressbook. When I go to check my mail, this pops up and all options other than cancel and OK to continue anyway are greyed out. What to I do? The account log shows: 04-06-15, 16:33:34: FETCH - receiving mail messages 04-06-15, 16:33:34: FETCH - Initiating TLS handshake 04-06-15, 16:33:34: FETCH - Certificate S/N: 04D069, algorithm: RSA (2048 bits), issued from 1/17/2012 10:18:48 PM to 2/17/2017 9:57:14 AM, for 2 host(s): *.unlimited-space.com, unlimited-space.com. 04-06-15, 16:33:34: FETCH - Owner: 7Z-a2uGYbUuQM6pii4Q3WkECf5geRvXh, AU, *.unlimited-space.com, GT11830337, See www.rapidssl.com/resources/cps (c)12, Domain Control Validated - RapidSSL(R), *.unlimited-space.com. 04-06-15, 16:33:34: FETCH - Issuer: US, GeoTrust, Inc., RapidSSL CA. !04-06-15, 16:33:34: FETCH - TLS handshake failure. Invalid server certificate (The issuer of this certificate chain was not found). So, what next? Is this an issue with The Bat! or is it something to do with my web/mail host? Any help appreciated. Thanks. Try these http://pki.google.com/ http://secure.globalsign.net/cacert/Root-R1.crt https://www.geotrust.com/resources/root-certificates/index.html -- Rick All ideologies are idiotic, whether religious or political, for it is conceptual thinking, the conceptual word, which has so unfortunately divided man. --Jiddu Krishnamurti Version 6.8.2.3 (BETA) (64-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Change from Pop3 to Imap
Thanks for all the help with moving to a new pc! I'm actually back on the old pc, since the new one had a bad harddrive and will be exchanged. Now I'm wondering, how to best change accounts to IMAP on TB. Looks like I would have to create a new account. But can the message bases, folders and filters be imported again, once the new account is created? I always wondered if you could rearrange things with windows explorer. ANyway, if you create the new IMAP accounts you can drag the folders on the POP account into the IMAP folder or better yet into folders that are not associated with an account if you have a ton of saved mail that would otherwise sync back to the server Your filters will figure out the changes when you drag them to the IMAP folder but any templates in the address book, Account or folder will have to be recreated and edited -- Rick One day I will find the right words, and they will be simple. ~Jack Kerouac, The Dharma Bums Version 6.8.0.3 (BETA) (32-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Change from Pop3 to Imap
But the filters will probably not work, if the folders are not associated with an account? Or will they? I have to admit that IMAP is mysterious to me. I have a lot of messages in some of the folders of on account. The other accounts are very simple. I'll experiment with one of the simple accounts first. ;) The ones in the sorting office should adjust to the new account automatically The ones in Folder will have to be hunted down and changed manually Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move TB! from my OS C: drive to my separate data drive D: ??
I have backups done by Second Copy of the whole TB! file system and database, so should be safe enough, but how should I migrate a multi Gb TB! installation from my C: drive (C:\The Bat\) to a similar folder structure on my D: drive please, and is there any risk in this? Well something can ALWAYS go wrong but excluding Murphy's Law, just copy the database to the D drive into a folder you want the mail database to reside then go to Preferences, System and point them mail directory to the new drive and folder Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move TB! from my OS C: drive to my separate data drive D: ??
Thanks Rick! Is there any point in keeping the working files of TB! on the (much faster SSD) C: drive, or might it be better to move the whole lot to the D: drive which is a RAID 1 pairing? I have an SSD C drive and keep my stuff on a non SSD drive E. There is not a noticeable difference as we are usually using just one (or a few) messages at a time Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't change template font
I tried your option 1 as my version doesn't show a Message Viewer/Editor described in your option 2. I'm not sure what you did accomplishes anything if you don't have any of the Character Sets checked. I tried your option 1 as you described and saw no difference in either New Message or Reply. On the other hand, if you created your profile to cure a strange problem then, whatever works. Profile viewer -- Rick To everyone of us there must come a time when the whole universe will be found to have been a dream, when we find the soul is infinitely better than the surroundings. It is only a question of time, and time is nothing in the infinite. - Sai Baba Version 6.8.0.3 (BETA) (32-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming mail size?
Wireshark? https://www.wireshark.org/download.html -- Rick The great religions are the ships, Poets the life boats. Every sane person I know has jumped overboard. ~ Hafiz Version 6.8.0.3 (BETA) (32-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving from Win7 to Win8.1
Install TB on new pc, copy database over, and hope for the best? :) That's what I did and I had no problems. On thing with windows 8. If the Bat won't launch, add an exception to the windows firewall Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Violation error message
Hi, everyone, Shutting down The Bat, I received an error message that read as follows: Access violation at address 01105125 in module 'TheBat.exe'. Read of address 0008. The Bat did shut down. Why did I get this error message? I get a similar AV about 70% of the time -- Rick Rogues are preferable to imbeciles because they sometimes take a rest. - Alexandre Dumas Version 6.8.0.2 (BETA) (32-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Deleting junk mail
Is there any option so that deleted junk mail disappears entirely? Yes - you can create a folder to catch it then have it delete everything in that folder with a filter. I use a shortcut key to mark the message, export it yo a folder on the hard drive then delete it. I have a system hot key to call a batch that packages it up for spamcop, send it then delete it from the hard drive I would be careful of having it delete everything that hits a folder. You might accidentally delete something important. Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Fortunately, the recipient can view messages in plain text and not be subjected to the visual assault you describe. (-; Personally I will be adding leprechauns for St Patty's day and change them to Easter bunnies after that :)) Hows THAT for a visual assault? :))) Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Could someone kindly explain the practical effect this setting for the AB template -- or any level of template. You can personalize your response i.e. font, add a company logo, flowered borders etc :)) I used to always include the Geico Gecko when corresponding with my insurance agent Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Did it take 15 minutes to set up this insurance-agent template? Hehehe yes but it was worth it Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Hello MFPA, On Thursday, March 12, 2015 you wrote: M Hi M On Thursday 12 March 2015 at 2:06:43 PM, in M mid:883867997.20150312090...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: As said, everything below the cursor positioning macro reverts to Courier New 12pt (unless the cut mark is somehow influencing the font). Â Any ideas as to why this would happen? Â M What font do you have set for Signature Text at M Options | Preferences | Viewer/Editor | Message Viewer/Editor? Well, as you can see from here: http://clip2net.com/s/3e5DDQa, I have to do this to get to where you're describing (probably version differences). But even then after I've selected Signature Text and made the necessary changes, it still has no effect on my sig in an AB reply. Mind you this is certainly not critical to anything, merely annoying. The AB template is overriding it. Make changes to the AB template and you should be good to go (making sur the the AB template is set to HTML -- Rick For some years now, students have not been getting to the root of the aim of Zen, instead taking the verbal teachings of Buddhas and Zen masters to be the ultimate rule. That is like ignoring a hundred thousand pure clear oceans and only focusing attention on a single bubble. - Ying-an Version 6.7.38.2 (32-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup Query
Hello Everyone, I have been running backups for several years twice weekly saving to two different drives. Fortunately I never really needed them but I sure would like to have a backup ready if disaster strikes. Looking at the backup folders, I am confused as to the output files: Backup 1 shows two files with different file names and extensions: a) TBBackup.TBKExt. tbk Modified 21/1/15 Created 23/10/13 Size: 7.685,533 KB b) TBBackup.$1 Ext. $1 Modified 14/1/15 Created 14/1/15 Size: 5,832,518 kb Backup 2 shows Weekly.TBK Ext tbk Modified 11/1/15 Created 27/10/13 Size: 7,624,364 It seems that I set up one backup via system/preferences and the second one via the scheduler, though both appear in the scheduler. I assume that the backups only override the previous one, so only the latest will be kept. Is that right or are there any settings as to how many versions are to be kept? The backup system is not smart although you can set it up any way you want. A wise person would consider copying the entire mail database to somewhere else. A winrar backup would do the trick. COpy the reg key to the mail folder and it is doing everything the BAT backup is doing I have had too many of them go corrupt and when that happens you are SOL as it seems it is a proprietary format -- Rick Mankind has created a God in their own idealized image and then treated their own creation as their Lord and Master. They, the creators, have bowed down before their creation. --K Marx Version 6.7.9.1 (64-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup Query
I have used the backup system often; each time I change computers, I backup everything to an external HD, and on the new computer, when installing TB!, I choose install from backup. Has been working flawlessly for many versions. I'm glad you never had a problem with it Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup Query
I'm glad you never had a problem with it And ... I meant to add a smiley to that but didn't get there. It's late :) Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how to reach RitLabs?
I've sent email to RitLabs but heard nothing. Was is the normal way to email them? supp...@ritlabs.com -- Rick Have you ever wondered if the one-dollar bills in your wallet were ever in a stripper's butt crack? If not, you're wondering now. Version 6.7.7.0 (Christmas Edition) (32-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macro / Template question
That's an approach I sometimes use, although less since I discovered spamgourmet . (The spam received by my domain's catchall tends to be addressed to . Using spamgourmet instead defeats this.) Spamgourmet is awesome. They even have it so it must have a key phrase in the name so people can't spam back to your spamgourmet address Seriously, go set up an account and play with it. Even if you don't need it now, some day you will want to sign up for something you are unsure of. If you use spamgourmet, you can get all the replies you want and it is configurable between 3 and 20 replies to you which you can override if needed Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[TBUDL] Address look up
The three places I can think of looking are:- 1. the address history drop-down. 2. an additional address book entry. 3. a messsage in a folder somewhere. If the offending suggested address is not to be found in one of those, I'm stumped. Under the account tree there are tabs. Check the address tab for that specific entry Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't open many messages
Hello TBUDLs, Yes it's me again with yet another problem. Some months ago my wife had many (over a hundred?) messages refuse to open with the error message that you'll find here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rl36410qfhhjc21/2014-10-25%2013_49_45-The%20Bat%21.png?dl=0 They cannot be deleted using the trash can icon (because the same message shows up) but possibly can be deleted using the keyboard DELETE key. I say possibly because I was happily deleting them by pressing DELETE/ENTER/DELETE/ENTER over and over when suddenly focus moved to another message and I noticed that a message I had previously deleted was still there. So I stopped doing that procedure and thought it best to consult this list for info regarding positive deletion, possibly thru the OS or even somehow getting these messages to be openable. Create another folder - leave the name default if you wish. Drag all the messages from the folder with the trouble to the new folder (Faux Inbox is it's name?) Go out to the first folder and delete any files in it (not subfolders of course) Drag the messages back and have your way with them -- Rick You can always tell about somebody by the way they put their hands on an animal. ~ Betty White Version 6.7.2 (32-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common Folder message total exceeds Preference limitations
TB! version 6.6 and windows 7/64 Hello TBUDL: Email is filtered into Common Folders. On several, due to daily volume, I used the folder preferences to limit total messages in respective Common-Folder to 100 stored messages and nix past 5 days. In many of those folders I am over 700, and a month duration. Are you running the Maintenance center? Try that and see if it cleans it up Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strip Attachments in Forward ?
Fair enough. Reply, hit hotkey vs Forward, select the recipient, three clicks to delete an attachment (plus dragging the cursor if multiple attachments to delete). So long as you use it often enough to remember the hotkey, it's quicker and easier. (-; Click any attachment - CONTROL A - DEL Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] Strip Attachments in Forward ?
Hello St, Thursday, October 16, 2014, 10:39:58 AM, you wrote: SpamCop is now at end-of-life - aka. dead. Oy! I didn't know that. Thanks. Is there a useful alternative to the, now, ex-Spamcop? I never heard that either! I use it multiple times a day and it is in no way dead for me. Keep using spamcop. I don't use a plugin with the bat. I have a shortcut that exports the mail in question to a designated folder, then use Winrar to zip them up and send them in. (I don't know of another archiver that has an email feature, not that I have looked ... and it has to be a ZIP, not a RAR) -- Rick The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy: that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. - John Kenneth Galbraith Version 6.6.0.12 (64-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] Strip Attachments in Forward ?
The SpamCop ship is abandoned - it's a Ghost Ship... I read something on their web page that said the CE mail had gone under and was closing it's doors (I THINK that is what it said. I couldn't find it now. If you find it and I am wrong ...) I really can't see them closing the doors. There are other email systems that would work with them: Google comes to mind for branded email systems. They also have a lot of business for the black list ... Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't enter registration code block (Solved!)
Get rid of McAfee! No disagreement here :) Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pasting text into The Bat
Allow me to suggest AceText. Clipboard manager and so much more: http://www.acetext.com/ $40!!! but Arsclip is free and as powerful. To each his own. There are a couple of concepts in Arsclip with which I have difficulty using Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Disk Crash TheBat! Does Not like it's files
My hard drive crashed and I was able to get almost all the stuff off the hard drive, but when I attempt to import the bat files, TheBat does not see them as it's own files. How do I get the files/emails back into TheBat, since there are several emails that are very important to me. Were you able to recover all the bat's data files? If so just put them where you want them and then Install the bat, pointing to that folder. Everything should come right back -- Rick Fighting for peace is like screaming for silence. ~ Unknown Version 6.6.0.7 (64-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't enter registration code block
Possibly. Since this a brand new computer I don't really know what AV ASUS might have running on it. I'll check that. I get it too. I run windows 8.1 on 2 computers. It was really bad on the older one with 8 megs of memory but even with 32 megs and a xenon processor it still happens, although it gets through it a bit quicker. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Template problem: macros to identify sender name and address
Maybe I could build a new query to export a different type of address list, with memo fields already filled that way, but I guess it would need a lot of work (-: I am coming in late on this one but how about address book groups for the different courses? Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Typing %email% into the WinEx address bar yields: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! As Feli suggested, Options/Preferences/System shows: %APPDATA%\The Bat!\. If you plug that into WinEx you get: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! That is it! But you can put it anywhere you want and browse to it in the bat Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Yes, it should ~not~ be put there, because user modifiable files are not supposed to be placed in any Program Files subdirectory. (Although this was once entirely possible in some earlier versions of Windows, this is now verboten for security reasons.) It COULD go into the programdata folder ... I have mine on another drive but even putting it in My Documents would work. If you have any trouble, check the folder/file permissions. They can get you all messed up in windows 8 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pasting text into The Bat
A reply composing feature that doesn't show the whole message sounds dangerous. It changed the template during one of the MSI installs. I have changed it and now changed it back. I wonder if it is one of those miscellaneous fixes that just came out If there is any text below here, there is a problem as there should not be any Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pasting text into The Bat
Before Paste as Plain Text appeared in The Bat!, I used an application called Get Plain Text which turns whatever is on the clipboard into plain text so you can paste it in to something else. I still use it occasionally, as there are a few programs that don't have an option to paste unformatted text. http://clipdiary.com/getplaintext/ Let me toss in Asdclip a clipboard manager http://www.joejoesoft.com/vcms/97/ He also has the best file renamer out ther (Renamemaster) if you have that need Hello MFPA, Monday, September 22, 2014, 11:06:19 PM, you wrote: M Hi M On Monday 22 September 2014 at 9:00:12 PM, in M mid:1754347284.20140922210...@trink.co.uk, jb_lists...@trink.co.uk M wrote: Hello Forums, On Monday, September 22, 2014, 4:51:44 PM, Forums wrote: When I paste text into TB it brings in the format from the document rather than inheriting the format of the document I am pasting into. Is there a setting I can change to alter this please. I have looked through the options but cannot see anything relevant. Try Ctl-Shift-V or Edit|Paste as plain text. M I don't have that problem in TB! as I compose email in plaintext. In M some other applications, I get around the problem by first pasting M into something like Notepad, then copying from there and pasting into M the application. Thanks for the suggestions - I think that the plain text option may suffice on a piece I have tried. Should have thought of that but expected it to work as other programs do. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pasting text into The Bat
Before Paste as Plain Text appeared in The Bat!, I used an application called Get Plain Text which turns whatever is on the clipboard into plain text so you can paste it in to something else. I still use it occasionally, as there are a few programs that don't have an option to paste unformatted text. http://clipdiary.com/getplaintext/ Let me toss in Asdclip a clipboard manager http://www.joejoesoft.com/vcms/97/ He also has the best file renamer out ther (Renamemaster) if you have that need Hello Forums, On Tuesday, September 23, 2014, 2:02:32 PM, Forums wrote: Thanks for the suggestions - I think that the plain text option may suffice on a piece I have tried. Should have thought of that but expected it to work as other programs do. Before Paste as Plain Text appeared in The Bat!, I used an application called Get Plain Text which turns whatever is on the clipboard into plain text so you can paste it in to something else. I still use it occasionally, as there are a few programs that don't have an option to paste unformatted text. http://clipdiary.com/getplaintext/ Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pasting text into The Bat
et me toss in Asdclip a clipboard manager How about ARSCLIP ... long day Before Paste as Plain Text appeared in The Bat!, I used an application called Get Plain Text which turns whatever is on the clipboard into plain text so you can paste it in to something else. I still use it occasionally, as there are a few programs that don't have an option to paste unformatted text. http://clipdiary.com/getplaintext/ Let me toss in Asdclip a clipboard manager http://www.joejoesoft.com/vcms/97/ He also has the best file renamer out ther (Renamemaster) if you have that need Hello MFPA, Monday, September 22, 2014, 11:06:19 PM, you wrote: M Hi M On Monday 22 September 2014 at 9:00:12 PM, in M mid:1754347284.20140922210...@trink.co.uk, jb_lists...@trink.co.uk M wrote: Hello Forums, On Monday, September 22, 2014, 4:51:44 PM, Forums wrote: When I paste text into TB it brings in the format from the document rather than inheriting the format of the document I am pasting into. Is there a setting I can change to alter this please. I have looked through the options but cannot see anything relevant. Try Ctl-Shift-V or Edit|Paste as plain text. M I don't have that problem in TB! as I compose email in plaintext. In M some other applications, I get around the problem by first pasting M into something like Notepad, then copying from there and pasting into M the application. Thanks for the suggestions - I think that the plain text option may suffice on a piece I have tried. Should have thought of that but expected it to work as other programs do. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pasting text into The Bat
et me toss in Asdclip a clipboard manager How about ARSCLIP ... long day Before Paste as Plain Text appeared in The Bat!, I used an application called Get Plain Text which turns whatever is on the clipboard into plain text so you can paste it in to something else. I still use it occasionally, as there are a few programs that don't have an option to paste unformatted text. http://clipdiary.com/getplaintext/ Before I get moderated .. I used quick reply and all that extra below my comment was NOT in th QR Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.8.10 OK to use on Win 7 64 bit?
18 July 2014 Without thinking I moved TB! to my new Windows 7 Pro 64 bit machine from an elderly XP Pro 32 bit PC. Whilst TB! appears to work fine I would like reassurance it will be happy long term on a 64 bit OS. Thanks. It runs as a 32 bit program and is found in C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat! You shouldn't have any issues (that I know of) Even v 6 runs on XP so I deduce that the basic architecture hasn't changed to the point where older versions have been left behind. The one thing it WILL do is try to put your data in the APPDATA folder for your account. That works if several people will access the Bat's installation via different accounts on the same computer. My wife and I were accessing the same mail base so I had to change it, but happily, that worked fine -- Rick Not only is the universe stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we can imagine. - Sir Arthur Eddington Version 6.4.6.5 (32-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cannot copy the message
Does anybody know what causes cannot copy the message? Or even how to find which message it is that triggers this during filter processing? Thanks in advance Adrian (version 6.3.2 Professional) Check the account log in the accounts data folder. If something failed, it should be recorded there -- Rick A neurotic is the man who builds a castle in the air. A psychotic is the man who lives in it. And a psychiatrist is the man who collects the rent. - Anonymous Version 6.4.6.2 (32-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply text insertion
HTML doesn't belong in email in the first place (if that formatting is actually important, put it in an attachment, e.g. PDF) and particularly not on mailing lists. Same goes for mail from do not reply and no reply addresses. Unfortunately the wold went in a different direction. HTML email is the rule and I use it quite a bit -- Rick A myriad bubbles were floating on the surface of a stream. 'What are you?' I cried to them as they drifted by. 'I am a bubble, of course' nearly a myriad bubbles answered, and there was surprise and indignation in their voices as they passed. But, here and there, a lonely bubble answered, 'We are this stream', and there was neither surprise nor indignation in their voices, but just a quiet certitude. - Wei Wu Wei v6.4.6 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB temp files?
M Hi M On Sunday 1 June 2014 at 6:05:29 PM, in M mid:183512910.20140601130...@grunwalds.com, Rick wrote: Here are the folders and files I clean out every night (including subfolders) (Attached) M The only attachment that I can see is a file called Part.txt M which said:- M M Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: M http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html M which is usually at the foot of the message body on postings to this M list, but was missing from yours. It was stripped. I'll send it off list -- Rick Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools talk because they have to say something Version 6.4.2.2 (32-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Purging IMAP folder
It will work, but it is S_L_O_W -- Rick Believe nothing just because a so-called wise person said it. Believe nothing just because a belief is generally held. Believe nothing just because it is said in ancient books. Believe nothing just because it is said to be of divine origin. Believe nothing just because someone else believes it. Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true. :Buddha - Hindu Prince Gautama Siddharta v6.4.2 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB temp files?
JSL Hello MAU, JSL On Sunday, June 01, 2014 you wrote: M Hello Jack, It took me about an hour to correctly construct the above path in the batch file MFPA provided, ... M I have no idea why but I never received MFPA's reply in which he M suggested the batch, I did get your reply to him though. I looked into M my Gmail's SAPM folder and it was not there either. Go figure! JSL Hmmm, curiouser and curiouser. JSL The batch file MFPA provided was: JSL @Echo on JSL @Echo. JSL @Echo ** JSL @Echo ** JSL @Echo ** Deleting any leftover The Bat! temp files** JSL @Echo ** JSL @Echo ** JSL :: JSL :: JSL del %temp%\bat*.tmp Here are the folders and files I clean out every night (including subfolders) (Attached) -- Rick Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well- warmed, and well-fed. --Herman Melville Version 6.4.2 (32-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Word wrap
Egads M, the link doesn't work, or at least presents me with something I don't understand (more likely). The PHP need tweaking -- Rick People are made to be loved and things are made to be used... The confusion in this world is that people are being used and things are being loved... v6.4.2 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB temp files?
JSL It took me about an hour to correctly construct the above path in the JSL batch file MFPA provided, having been away from batch file programming JSL since DOS and the old C:\ prompt. I never had to deal with spaces in JSL directory names back then. But I was eventually successful and got JSL the batch file to run and do what it was supposed to do. I got so JSL wrapped up in that little task that I forgot the TB was still running JSL when the batch file finally executed correctly. Fortunately no harm JSL seems to have been done (fingers crossed). I run Ccleaner and besides the various windows temp locations, I have it clean out the cache folder and the imgfiles folder and also these files: MESSAGES.BC?;MESSAGES.BK?;MESSAGES.IB?;part.bin;*.tmp I have yet to lose a message -- Rick what you see, what you say, what you do, and ultimately what you become Version 6.4.0.8 (64-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Word wrap
It is usually in HTML emails when the quoted text is wide. You can keep typing and it will not wrap until you reach that width -- Rick Yoga is the settling of the mind into silence. When the mind has settled, we are established in our essential nature, which is unbounded Consciousness. Our essential nature is usually overshadowed by the activity of the mind. - Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, 1: 2-4 v6.4.0.8 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat process keeps running after app is closed
My pc's shutdown process generated an End Program pop up notice headlined, End Program - thebat that stated This program is not responding. My choices are to either end now or cancel. I get that a LOT and often have to kill it with task manager -- Rick Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well- warmed, and well-fed. --Herman Melville v6.4.0.6 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: thebat.net
Same credentials that always worked before. Granted the only reason I knew it wasn't working is that it started making the error sound when it started failing. I don't really use the account much, maybe they kicked me off. Go out to the web page and get the IMAP setting from there - see if you have a problem logging in there -- Rick When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car v6.4.0.4 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending from different accounts
Try selecting the account at the bottom before you enter the message body. I might be missing something but is not the issue that the MACROS are not working? I am having similar issues here. -- Rick With clear and steady insight He sees this world is a mirage, And he no longer wonders about it. How can he fear the approach of death? - Ashtavakra Gita 3:11 v6.4.0.2 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hiding CC with a note in CC field
List Name . However, the email won't go because no valid email in cc. I wonder if it is possible to send like this anyway? Yes, just use that as an email NAME and your email address for the address. I do that for undisclosed-recipients which happens when replying to a BCC list -- Rick Only reason can convince us of those three fundamental truths: without a recognition of which there can be no effective liberty: That what we believe is not necessarily true; that what we like is not necessarily good; and that all questions are open. -- Clive Bell - (1881-1964) - Source: Civilization, 1928 v6.3.2.3 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Enlarging incomimg mail body test
I am finding it more and more difficult to read incoming mails. Have tried looking under preferences but cannot find anything there that changes it. Preferences / Viewer Editor / Profile Layout Create a new layout and make the font sizes to your needs -- Rick The fragrance always stays in the hand that gives the rose. - Hada Bejar v6.3.2.2 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat process keeps running after app is closed
A My pc's shutdown process generated an End Program pop up notice A headlined, End Program - thebat that stated This program is not A responding. My choices are to either end now or cancel. A The Bat was closed so I looked at the processes running under Task A Manager and saw that thebat.exe was running. IIRC, it was 284k. So, A I reopened and closed The Bat, and the same thing happened. Now, I A can just end the process, but why is a process running in the A background when The Bat is closed? Perhaps this is somehow related A to the stream write error message problem that has never been A resolved? (See my earlier post from Dec 2) A Bottom line question, though, is, why would a process be running for A The Bat after having closed the application? I can confirm this on a random basis -- Rick A myriad bubbles were floating on the surface of a stream. 'What are you?' I cried to them as they drifted by. 'I am a bubble, of course' nearly a myriad bubbles answered, and there was surprise and indignation in their voices as they passed. But, here and there, a lonely bubble answered, 'We are this stream', and there was neither surprise nor indignation in their voices, but just a quiet certitude. - Wei Wu Wei Version 6.3.2.2 (32-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages queued in wrong outbox
If you want to reply from different accounts, putting the mails into a common inbox makes even less sense to me. I am not saying your way is wrong, everybody works differently. I just don't understand why you use a common inbox at all. A common virtual folder gives you the convenience of a common inbox yet you will always reply from the correct account -- Rick Money is the new religion and Science, it's priesthood v6.3.0.8 (ALPHA) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Change reply formatting for HTML email
I am using a HTML reply email template. However the blue bar which appears alongside the quoted message is rather thick and unsightly - is there any way to change this please? The answer is no, but if you change the email to plain text then copy the quoted text and switch back without changing anything, you can paste that into the message. I would like to see an option to select the method of quoting in all message editors -- Rick The art of being wise is knowing what to overlook. - William James v6.3.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Font size for reply
Is it possible to change font size automatically when I reply to a particular person? Thanks. Yes - go to options / Viewer Editor / Profile Layout. Create a new layout and pick the character sets you want it to use then set each text area to look like what you want -- Rick God does not work by only one method, paint in only one color, play in only one key, nor does He make only one star shine onto the earth. - Eberhard Arnold v6.2.14 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need Advice on Backing Up and Reinstalling
MG I am currently using The Bat! version 4.2.44.2 on a PC with a Windows 7 operating system. MG I received an error message this morning saying that my copy of MG Windows 7 was not a genuine one. It is genuine and came loaded on my laptop from Dell. MG I called Dell support, and after trying a number of other MG workarounds, they've decided that my Windows 7 has become MG corrupted--or at least some files on it have--and I need to have MG the operating system reinstalled. MG They will work with me on this, but obviously it means I'm going MG to have to reinstall all my programs after the operating system is MG re-done, and that includes The Bat! MG My questions are three: MG 1a. Will I be able to reinstall the same version of The Bat? It MG has given me no problems, and I seem to be reading that people are MG having problems with version 6. I still have the MG thebat_pro_4-2-44.msi file from when I originally installed it and I do have my Key Block. MG 1b. If I have to use a newer version of The Bat! are there any MG changes I need to know about that will affect my ability to MG retrieve my mail from the backups? MG 2. What files will I need to back up? MG ---My mail directory setting in Preferences lists: %APPDATA%\The MG Bat!\ I assume this means my mail directory is in MG C:\Users\MSG\AppData\Roaming\TheBat!\Janus1 where MSG is my user MG name and Janus1 is my mail account name. I already back up my MG Users\MSG directory every night to an online backup site called IBackup. MG ---In addition, I do an automatic daily backup to a file called MG C:\TheBatBackups\Batbackup2.tbk This daily backup is set to back MG up all address books and all accounts. This also is sent every night to the IBackup site. MG ---Is there anything else I need to back up in order to retrieve MG all my mail after I reinstall TheBat!? MG 3. After I reinstall TheBat! I will copy my backed up Users\MSG MG file onto my computer. Do I also have to restore the .tbk file to MG The Bat! or will just moving the previous User folder be enough? MG Thanks for any help. Let the more knowledgeable chime in but there was a database change with v5 and if you run v5 or later, it is not backwardly compatible Back up your RIT reg key and put it in your mail folder then ARCHIVE it and move it somewhere off the machine, or at least the C:\ drive The Bat's backup can be flakey. I tried it and had about a third of the files unusable and unable to restore them Check your private mail in about 5 minutes for something that may make all this moot :) -- Rick All ideologies are idiotic, whether religious or political, for it is conceptual thinking, the conceptual word, which has so unfortunately divided man. --Jiddu Krishnamurti Version 6.2.14 (64-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Request for change of behaviour
I think once an unread message has focus, even just in the preview pane, it should hod focus as new mail is filtered into that folder Agreed -- Rick There is no snooze button for a cat that wants breakfast. -Anonymous v6.2.8 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! version signature
JS On Saturday, January 25, 2014, 3:22:29, Rick wrote: That is the internal build number for 8.1 - it is in my sig too JS It's not - 6.2 build 9200 is Windows 8, while 8.1 is 6.3 build 9600. I updated my template, yet it shows 9200 -- Rick The fragrance always stays in the hand that gives the rose. - Hada Bejar Version 6.2.4.1 (BETA) (64-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What does this mean in my account log?
I downloaded the free version and performed a quick scan. A whole bunch of items were detected Most of them have to do with the registry. Some are in files I recognize, e.g., set up file from software the I have installed, and I do not want to delete those. Most of the setup file REGISTRY entries can be deleted as they are just leftovers from the install process. As for files, it likes to suggest uninstall files as being potentially dangerous. If you know what the FILE is you can exclude it. If you really want to get your registry cleaned out and compacted (and speed up your machine, get Macecrafts Jv16 Powertools. You can get the lite version for free and the pro ... well they are going open source soon and when they do grab it. If you want to follow up with this, shoot me an email off list -- Rick Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like nobody's watching. Leroy Satchel Paige, 1906 - 1982. v6.2.4.1 (BETA) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attaching an e-mail to another e-mail
I want to send an e-mail that has a separate e-mail attached to it. I do not wish to embed the e-mail that I wish to attach into the body of the text of the e-mail that I am sending. How do I accomplish this? Save the email then attach it or just drag it from the message list to the email to which you want to attach it. -- Rick These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; v6.2.4.1 (BETA) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! version signature
CN Hello Tbudl, CN I just got a new Windows 8 computer, updated it to version 8.1 The CN Bat! signature says Windows 6.2 Build 9200. Anyone know why this is? CN Karla That is the internal build number for 8.1 - it is in my sig too -- Rick The great religions are the ships, Poets the life boats. Every sane person I know has jumped overboard. ~ Hafiz Version 6.2.4.1 (BETA) (64-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat process continues to run after app is closed, sometimes
A My pc's shutdown process generated an End Program pop up notice A headlined, End Program - thebat that stated This program is not A responding. My choices are to either end now or cancel. A The Bat was closed so I looked at the processes running under Task A Manager and saw that thebat.exe was running. IIRC, it was 284k. So, A I reopened and closed The Bat, and the same thing happened. Now, I A can just end the process, but why is a process running in the A background when The Bat is closed? Perhaps this is somehow related A to the stream write error message problem that has never been A resolved? (See my earlier post from Dec 2) A Bottom line question, though, is, why would a process be running for A The Bat after having closed the application? Note, this does not A always happen. I can confirm that although it has been better in the more recent versions of v6 -- Rick Blessed are the cracked, for they will let in the light. v6.2 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems moving mail to Windows 8.1
I had trouble too (and this will happen every so often) Run it as administrator - either right click the icon on the desktop or the RT screen and you will be presented with that option. Once it runs that way you can run it normally after that ... until the next time. You can even do this from the program icon if you wish. If that doesn't work, check the permissions on the l folder and all it's sub containers and even if administrators have full access, add yourself specifically with full access -- Rick Blessed are the cracked, for they will let in the light. v6.1.8.3 (BETA) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
I have noticed this too. I have a word that I added keep popping up inappropriately. -- Rick Cannot open file C:\ProgramData\The Bat!\cookies\politics.txt v6.1.4 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
I'll give it another shot then .. Thanks again! If you are on XP it will have to drag to the quick launch section on the far left next to the start button. This works for 7 and 8 -- Rick Cannot open file C:\ProgramData\The Bat!\cookies\politics.txt v6.0.12 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
2) Is there a separate download for the 64bit version of TB? I saw Maxim's email on 64bit version on TBBeta, hence question. Install the MSI files then copy the 64 bit exe to the program folder. 6.0.12 has a lot of problems but I have not found any real show stoppers other than the AVs -- Rick Cannot open file C:\ProgramData\The Bat!\cookies\politics.txt v6.0.12 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticons/Smileys
M Did you ever follow up on updating your Rogues photo, which you M mentioned in May last year? I had another Someone new has joined or M updated their image on Roguemoticons email today (which makes five in M 18 months) saying you had joined or updated, but the zip file still M contains the same photo of you. I think Roguemoticons are dead for all practical purposes. I wouldn't blame Ritlabs if they removed it - no sense in releasing a program with a program feature that CANNOT be fixed. They could easily take pictures out of the address book and put them in the same place (which it does but I am getting black spaces in v6) -- Rick Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration Abraham Lincoln - 1st Inaugural Address v6.0.4.1 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti-spam spider
LSB The other day I wrote that Anti-spam Spider seemed to be stricter. It LSB has gotten worse. Several e-mail nottes from another list were junked, LSB even though I had put the sender into my address book. LSB Any ideas? LSB Thanks. Antispam SNIPER? If that is the case open it up from the toolbar, go to options and clear the database and let it start learning again -- Rick Corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. Abraham Lincoln v6.0.4.1 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Previously selected message indicator color
OK, thanks for that info - I should look into doing some tweaking, too, then. :-) If you want the ultimate tweak site go to http://winaero.com. All his stuff is free. He has a context menu tweaker that doesn't work correctly for me but there is a lot of other great stuff. i.e pin odd stuff to the win 8 start menu, add to the ALT X menu -- Rick Repeal the Social Security $113,700 cap on taxable earnings. Everyone should pay the same. v5.8.10 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
