Re: turning off automatic copyright symbol with (c)
On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 at 03:22:40 -0600,Avram wrote: > HI, > > As an attorney, I am frequently needing to cite statute and regulation > subsections in e-mails. Often, I need to type a "c" within parentheses in > order to indicate a particular section's subsection, such as SSA § 202(c). > However, in normal typing, "(c)" automatically changes to "©" unless I use a > work-around by typing a space between the "c" and one of the parentheses, and > then, later, using the backspace key to close up the space. This is tedious! > How can I turn off this "feature?" I see nothing in the "Preferences" > window that addresses this. There is a slightly awkward way of doing it, that is to type (c ) (which has an extra space between the "c" and the ")") and then go back and delete that space. The required (c) then stays . -- Robin Using The Bat! v9.5.1 Windows 10.0 Build 19045 Popfile v1.1.3 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anyone using Mymacros.tbp in TB 64-bit?
On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 at 18:25:30 +0100,MAU wrote: > I had not used Mymacros in a long long time and today I tried to > include the plugin in my 64-bit TB, but I get an error. I am assuming > it is because Mynacros.tbp is 32 bits. Can anyone confirm? Yes, I am using the 32-bit version so that I can use MyMacros. It doesn't work for me on the 64-bit version. -- Robin Using The Bat! v9.4.4 Windows 10.0 Build 19043 Popfile v1.1.3 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stopping a numbered list
On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 at 11:47:42 +1000,Ian wrote: > I was creating a number list (no special command entered. > The line started with > 1. > When I finished the entry, I pressed the enter and the next line was > automatically as 2. > Great, I thought, only now I can't stop the numbers when I press the enter > key! My experience is that pressing "Decrease indent" after the desired initial indented and numbered paragraphs breaks the automatic indenting and numbering. Also if you put a space before your first line starting with 1. it doesn't indent. You can then go back and delete that initial space and manually create lines starting with 2. , 3. , etc without them becoming indented as well. Like this: 1. First line, started with a space that I then deleted after writing the "1." 2. Second line, manually entered "2.", no initial space needed, no automatic indenting or numbering occurred 3. And so on. -- Robin Using The Bat! v9.4.4 Windows 10.0 Build 19043 Popfile v1.1.3 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Check for Update Fails
Title: Re: Check for Update Fails On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 08:21:14 +,Acheton wrote: I'm running 9.3.0.2 and when I go Help->Check for update TB responds with 'Your version of TB is most current'. However if I check the website 9.3.1 is available, and I assume that the update function should download it automatically. Just wanted to report as an error. Lucky you! I'm running 9.2.3 and when I check for update nothing happens at all! -- Robin Using The Bat! v9.2.3 Windows 10.0 Build 19042 Popfile v1.1.3 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP -- for dummies, please
On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 at 13:15:33 -0800,Melissa wrote: > Also, I'm noticing something peculiar with checking messages via the > IMAP account... > The "Connection Centre" doesn't pop up on-screen automatically as it > does when I check for new mail in my POP accounts, but apparently, it > does open (have to click on it to show on-screen). However, it says > it's in "IDLE mode", and I have to "abort all" and manually close the > "Connection Centre", or it will just sit there, apparently doing > nothing. That's because it's IMAP. Wikipedia tells us (amongst other things) that: When using POP, clients typically connect to the e-mail server briefly, only as long as it takes to download new messages. When using IMAP4, clients often stay connected as long as the user interface is active and download message content on demand. For users with many or large messages, this IMAP4 usage pattern can result in faster response times. and that: IMAP4 clients need to maintain a TCP/IP connection to the IMAP server in order to be notified of the arrival of new mail. So I think it just comes with the change in protocol -- Robin Using The Bat! v8.8.9 Windows 10.0 Build 18362 Popfile v1.1.3 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Saving a TB! shortcut
Hi Batfolk, I am having trouble saving an editor shortcut. I want to assign CTRL+/ in the message editor to Utilities>Character case>Capitalise. I can successfully create the shortcut using the customise>shortcuts, and I have tested that it works. However, when I close TB and open it again, the shortcut has been lost. Does anyone have any ideas about this? Perhaps the shortcuts are stored in a file that doesn't have write permissions on it - does anyone know where they are stored? Robin Anson -- Robin Using The Bat! v8.6 Windows 10.0 Build 17134 Popfile v1.1.3 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bulk delete
On Wed, 10 May 2017 at 15:44:44 -0500,Jack wrote: > Is there a way to bulk delete messages from a particular email address? > I'm thinking like CTRL>SELECT or CTRL_A. Alt-(left)click on the sender will display only emails from that sender. Then CTRL+A and DELETE. Simple -- Robin Using The Bat! v7.4.16 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.3 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macro / Template question
On Tue, 30 Dec 2014 at 20:17:05 +0100,Carsten wrote: short question: is there a macro I can use, to find out how many recipients a message I reply to has, or one that can tell me if a specific string is part of the message's From address? This is a quick template that that I created to parse an address list. It might be useful for you. As written, of course, it assumes it has the handle ParseAddressList. %Rem=^ Usage: %QInclude(ParseAddressList,ListOfAddresses) Returns: %_FirstAddress: first address from the list %_RemainingAddressList: address list without the first ^%- %- %_FirstAddress=%- %_RemainingAddressList=%- %If:'%_1'''%- :'%setpattregexp=#^((?(?=)[^]*)[^;,]*)[;,\s]*(.*?)[;,\s]*$#%- %regexpblindmatch=%_1%- %_FirstAddress=+%subpatt=1+%- %_RemainingAddressList=+%Subpatt=2+'%- :''%- The list of addresses you might feed it could be %To,%CClist -- Robin Using The Bat! v6.7.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.3 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick templates and html
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 at 00:52:24 +0400,Assad wrote: Hello Robin, On 08 April 2014, Robin Anson wrote and made these points on the subject of Quick templates and html: RA I haven't yet sorted out why the delimiters I use in my quick RA templates (e.g. , ', %, $, ^, etc) appear in the output when I use an RA html message template. One way you can circumvent this problem is to have the template in a separate Quick Template then use %Qinclude to call for the template. Actually, that is what I do. I have discovered that if I execute the QT manually, i.e. I type it's handle and then press CTRL+SPACE, it works fine. If I use %QInclude to call it from the template, it fails. How can that be? I don't know, but I have finally given up on TB! for business use and am moving to Outlook now. -- Robin Using The Bat! v6.3.2 Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Popfile v1.1.3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Enlarging incomimg mail body test
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 at 19:48:52 +0100,Forums wrote: Thanks - was hoping it would be simpler than that. Will have a play with that. J Click inside message body, hold Ctrl, then scroll with your J mousewheel. Thanks for the hint. Doesn't work on all messages. Changing the template settings does not seem to have any effect. For instance I cannot find a way to change the line above starting Thanks Try Quoted Text (even) and Quoted Prefix (even) or Quoted Text (odd) and Quoted Prefix (odd) -- Robin Using The Bat! v6.3.2 Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Popfile v1.1.3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Quick templates and html
Batfolk, Has anyone any experience with using html templates and quick templates together? I have to use html for business purposes (company standard) and I have an extensive set of quick templates that I use for formatting emails etc. However the two do not seem to mix well. When I use my existing templates with an html message template, I end up with a host of delimiters and blank lines in the message that simply don't appear in a plain text message. I have noted, for instance, that if I include a line in the html message template containing only the following characters %- it produces a blank line in message. In a plain text message it produces no output. Unfortunately I use lots of such lines in my quick templates to help make it readable I haven't yet sorted out why the delimiters I use in my quick templates (e.g. , ', %, $, ^, etc) appear in the output when I use an html message template. Robin Anson -- Robin Using The Bat! v6.3.2 Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Popfile v1.1.3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Expanding threads problems
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 at 22:52:29 +,Robert wrote: 1) Shift+Ctrl+Plus behaves identically with Shift+Ctrl+*, i.e., expands *all* threads, not just the one under the cursor. Confirmed on my system 2) None of Shift+Space, Ctrl+Space or Alt+Space work. All invoke the standard Windows Alt+Space menu for the current window (Restore, Move, Size, Minimize, Maximise, Close). Space on its own appears to work like Plus, but moves the cursor down a line each time, which Plus doesn't. Shift+Space appears to do nothing Ctrl+Space appears to open the last message in the thread immediately above the current cursor position Alt+Space invokes the standard Windows function Space scrolls down the current message in the preview pane 3) Plus/Minus partially works. If I put the cursor on a top-level node and press Plus, it will show the child nodes, but not necessarily open the grandchild nodes. Whether that happens or no seems to depend on how they were left last time. If the grandchild nodes were open, then Plus on the top-level opens them, but if they weren't, it doesn't, so I repeatedly have to use Plus on the next level down. Confirmed (this has been the standard behaviour as long as I have used TB!) I'd like a way to expand/collapse all nodes of the current thread, regardless of how the nodes were left last time, and also for Help to match what I see, or at least to explain why I don't seem to see what I think it's saying. Please can anyone confirm what I'm seeing? Have I misunderstood something? I _think_ the behaviour of Ctrl+Shift+Plus and Ctrl+Shift+Minus have changed since v5, but I no longer have v5 installed to confirm. -- Robin Using The Bat! v6.3.2 Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Popfile v1.1.3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook entry issues
On Mon, 20 May 2013 at 10:01:21 +1000,Ian wrote: Hide items if not explicitly selected This is not as clear as it could be (at least to me). I've never understood what this is intended to mean. Hide items if _what_ is not explicitly selected?? Hide items from _what_?? Presumably it did make sense to someone once, and I'd love to hear an explanation. It should say something like Don't display group members in root. -- Robin Using The Bat! v5.3.8 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Rad filters don't work
Batfolk, I have recently upgraded from version 4 of TB to version 5. I have a number of read filters which I use to file messages when I have read them, but these are not triggered when I mark the messages as read manually. If I set TB to mark messages as read when they are opened in a new window, the filter works as expected. Is this a known problem? Is there a solution? Robin Anson -- Robin Using The Bat! v5.3.8 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
changed behaviour of copy/move in v5
Batfolk, I have recently upgraded to v5 of TB!. In v4, when moving a message I think the window to select the destination highlighted the current folder (or perhaps the root of the account?). Anyway, when moving a message from the inbox I could simply type the name of the receiving folder and it would find the folder of that name in the current account. I v5, however, it seems to remember the last destination of a move. So now when I type the name of the receiving folder, it often finds the folder of that name in a subsequent account, because the starting position was after the desired receiving folder. I have tried adjusting the option Remember the last destination of copy/move operations for each folder, but it seems to make no difference. Ideally I think I would like to go back to the v4 behaviour. Is anyone else troubled by the same problem? If so, have you found a work-around? Robin Anson -- Robin Using The Bat! v5.3.8 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Where to I forward invalid HTML??
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 at 05:28:12 +0100,St wrote: Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers. I haven't seen that message myself. I have seen tons of spam with broken HTML - but a googling indicates it's indeed related to TB. Yes, it's what TB displays when it doesn't like the incoming message. If I open the attached Message.html it opens fine in my browser, but presumably the html breaks some standard that the browser is flexible about. Or perhaps there is a real bug? Is this problem connected to one/some specific Sender(s) or is it present in just about any message? Could the problem be connected to a mass mailing and the Sender didn't format their newsletter properly? Or is this a problem with YOUR outgoing messages?? Anything from LinkedIn now displays this message. It didn't use to, but perhaps LinkedIn has changed its html email generator. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Where to I forward invalid HTML??
Batfolk, I frequently get HTML email that displays in TB with the message Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers. Thanks. Strangely enough, it doesn't indicate any email address for forwarding the message. Do they want it? Do they care? How hard am I supposed to research where to send it?? Robin Anson -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top posting
On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 at 20:56:36 +,Robert wrote: Is there any easy way to make TB top-post? You need to set up a reply template that gets called under the right circumstances. I have one called TopPost that looks a bit like an MS Exchange reply. It also calls a signature template (called Sig), you could just replace it with your standard signature: Dear %OFromName -- %Qinclude(Sig) ==Original Message From: %OFromName %OFromAddr Sent: %QInclude(YourDate) at %QInclude(YourTime) To: %OToList %If:%OCCList:CC: %OCCList :%- Subject: %OFullSubj %Text End Original Message== %Clear%- -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to delete obsolete pop-up address?
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 at 16:36:46 -0500,Jack wrote: Well, I don't get it. If I start a new message and click the chevron (VIEW HISTORY) at the far right of the TO field, I am presented with a history of most recently used addresses. While the list is displayed I can press the down-arrow key (not the mouse cursor) which causes the top address in the list to become highlighted. Once the top address is highlighted I can continue to use the down-arrow key to travel down in the list, the next address being highlighted with each down-arrow keypress. Any address highlighted in this manner can then either be deleted by pressing the DEL key or PARKed by pressing the space bar. After experimenting, I discovered that it only works if you haven't already started to enter characters in the address line. In other words, don't type something to get the drop down list, just press the chevron (as you did) to get the list. Then it works! -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP servers On-The-Go: how to share an SMTP server
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 at 17:51:28 +0200,Luca wrote: I'm trying to share an SMTP server between more than one account, but the shared flag is not active. My TB! version has no shared flag in the account|transport settings, active or otherwise. If you select use SMTP servers on-the-go, then configure, you get a shared checkbox, not working, for each server. Maybe in some next build... Where is this option to be found? Account/properties. Hmm, you must be running v5. If you share your version number in your question it helps people resolve your problems. Since I'm running v4, I cannot help you -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP servers On-The-Go: how to share an SMTP server
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 at 21:08:24 +0200,Luca wrote: I'm trying to share an SMTP server between more than one account, but the shared flag is not active. My TB! version has no shared flag in the account|transport settings, active or otherwise. If you select use SMTP servers on-the-go, then configure, you get a shared checkbox, not working, for each server. Maybe in some next build... Where is this option to be found? -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to add a double quotation to a template
On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 at 20:45:35 -0400,Rick wrote: I WANT it to add a as in the following %Subject=Jigsaw Puzzle in other words, I want the new subject to end in a quotation mark. I can't do it. I have added both the quotation mark and tried it with %22 and get either nothing or a weird result Try using another delimiter, like this %Subject=^Jigsaw Puzzle ^ The macro will recognise the first ^ as the delimter and then include everything up to the second one. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to add a double quotation to a template
On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 at 22:03:55 -0400,Rick wrote: WOW - I never knew that you could use that. It worked like a charm and I fixed the 4 templates where it was needed and they worked flawlesssy You can use all sorts of characters. I have used ' ^ % ! + | # @ and probably more as delimiters. Perhaps any character can be used as a delimiter if it just appears in the right place -- does anyone here have a definitive answer for that? -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 at 13:55:06 -0700,Lynn wrote: On 3/17/2012, you wrote: L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. ...snip... It seems to be deleting it after the fact. I'm not sure whether it will help you, but I experience the same problem although under different circumstances. I run Mozy as an online backup system, and when it is running, it seems to lock my message files (although it is not supposed to). If I download email while the backup is running, I get a similar message about not being able to store message, with the same sort of file name. These files also disappear so that I am unable to do something constructive like manually import them at a later time. Perhaps something is preventing access to the message files of this particular account? -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert LINK?
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 at 10:00:32 -0500,Edward wrote: I wonder why TB! can't put in hyperlinks. Shouldn't be difficult to code. Then you could have a click here instead of long URL's that even TinyUrl can't compress enough. URL's get in the way of communicating, sometimes. But it can, using html-coded messages. If you don't want to use html, you have to use plain text, I don't believe there is any standards-based third option. And plain text is just that, plain text. It has no way of hiding a long URL, so you just have to put up with it in all it's glory. This isn't a problem of TB!, it is a fact of the way email messages are structured. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Account folder always starts expanded
Batfolk, For some reason the account folder structure of one of my accounts always opens in the account pane expanded. All other accounts open as they were when I closed TB, but this one has, over the last week or two, refused to do so. Does anyone know where the information about the account pane is stored? I was thinking of deleting that file and seeing if it will recreate so that the account behaves properly. Alternatively, does anyone know what might be causing this behaviour? Robin -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.42 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems on Windows 7
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 at 23:09:41 -0400,Jack wrote: I see though that my text was not formatted properly. I have the editor to go to a new line at 70 characters. It is doing it now as I type but when the message shows on the list, there's no limit. It sounds as though you are using the Windows editor, not the MicroEd editor. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.42 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which version should I upgrade to?
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 at 14:28:33 +0200,Mary wrote: I've been thinking of upgrading recently because the Scheduler would be very useful ...snip... Are there any major problems with v4.2.44 that I should be aware of? Alternatively, I see v4.0.38 and some earlier ones are still availble for download. Any recommendations? I am running v4.2.42 and I have no problems with it except that it is about time we had a more capable html editor. Everything else works fine, and I make extensive use of filters, templates and customised quick templates. I don't make any use of the scheduler though, so can offer no opinion on that. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.42 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Put message in Outbox
On Wed, 25 May 2011 at 14:58:00 +1000,Ian wrote: I put the first few ones in my Outbox using the Put message in Outbox button. To my surprise, around5 minutes later, The Bat! started sending them out. Now before the postponed sending option was introduced, any message put in the outbox would stay there until explicitly sent either individually or by send all queued mail. Not in my setup. I have combined delivery set (in Account Properties-Transport) and it has always been the case that when I select Put message in the outbox it gets sent on the next mail check. I have never used Send queued mail. Of course, your configuration may be different to mine. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.42 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to get CC line to appear in printout
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 at 01:10:58 -0500,Achdut18 wrote: RA Yes, put this in instead of the CC: line you currently have RA %If:%OCCList:CC: %OCCList RA :%- Thanks. Just to be clear, My current CC line says: CC: %CClist Are you saying that I should remove CC: %CC and replace it with the following: CC: %If:%OCCList: CC: %OCCList:%- No, I am saying that the current line CC: Should be replaced by %If:%OCCList:CC: %OCCList :%- So that part of the template should look like: From: %FromName %FromAddr To: %ToName %ToAddr %If:%OCCList: CC: %OCCList :%- Date: %ODateEn %OTimeLongEn Subject: %Subj Folder: %FolderName/%AccountName (and here I have adjusted spacing somewhat to match what you already have - you might need to adjust it further before the bit that says 'CC: %OCCList') I am not sure why I have the %OCCList macro, but it works for me here. The alternative is the %CCList macro which should also work. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.42 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to get CC line to appear in printout
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 at 21:18:36 -0500,Achdut18 wrote: I can get the recipients in the CC field to show when the mail message is printed: %BCC=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From: %FromName %FromAddr To: %ToName %ToAddr CC: %CC Date: %ODateEn %OTimeLongEn Subject: %Subj -=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- %Text -=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- However, when I print a mail message with no CC'd individuals, the CC line appears and is blank. Can I have my cake and eat it too? Yes, put this in instead of the CC: line you currently have %If:%OCCList:CC: %OCCList :%- This breaks over two lines (so that if there is no CC you don't have a blank line. It says that if the original CC list is not blank (%OCCList) print it followed by a new line. Otherwise print nothing. You will probably also want to adjust the spacing a bit to match your template Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.42 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message is not correctly addressed
On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 at 10:29:29 +1100,Ian wrote: I am trying to send a message to everyone in an addressbook group. I highlight everyone in the group and pick the button. This sees the recipient as AISD (NSW) list When I try and send the message, The Bat! comes back with the following alert. It works fine for me - I highlight the group in the address book and select send message or I open a new message and from the TO bar I select the addressbook and then do as you described above. Both ways work without an error message. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.42 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can't connect with TLS but error message seems wrong
Batfolk, I have an account that requires I connect to the POP server using TLS to the dedicated port (995). It has been working fine for a long time, but suddenly it won't connect and I get an error message that the certificate has expired. However, the account log shows the following: 12/23/2010, 11:46:28: FETCH - receiving mail messages 12/23/2010, 11:46:28: FETCH - Initiating TLS handshake 12/23/2010, 11:46:29: FETCH - Certificate S/N: E866A98DE7ACA3AB, algorithm: RSA (1024 bits), issued from 8/17/2010 11:11:06 AM to 8/17/2011 11:11:06 AM, for 1 host(s): sydmail01.commandhub.net. 12/23/2010, 11:46:29: FETCH - Owner: AU, NSW, Sydney, Commandhub, Operations, sydmail01.commandhub.net, operati...@commadhub.com. 12/23/2010, 11:46:29: FETCH - Root: AU, NSW, Sydney, Commandhub, Operations, sydmail01.commandhub.net, operati...@commadhub.com !12/23/2010, 11:46:29: FETCH - TLS handshake failure. Invalid server certificate (This certificate has expired). which makes it appear that the certificate is still valid. Needless to say people using Outlook can connect without problems, and I set up Thunderbird and it connects. I merely had to accept that it was a self-signed certificate (so the root was not trusted automatically). The people that run the server cannot see a problem. My laptop clock is correct. The only possible (long shot) source of a problem is that about the time I started experiencing this problem I had updated AVG Free to the latest version. At the time the problem started I was using AVG's proxy servers, but even going directly to the POP server the problem remains. Has anyone else experienced this? Does anyone have any ideas of how to get more information about the problems? -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: POPFile help please
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 at 17:01:31 +0300,Costas wrote: After changing to Windows 7 from XP and installing POPFile which I use to identify spam, somehow I cannot find a way to prepend the subject of spam messages with the word [spam], which was the case with Windows XP. Does anybody know how to do that? Is it a problem with Windows 7 and The Bat, or do I just don't know/don't remember how to do it? Open the Popfile control center, go to the Buckets tab and in the buckets configuration for your Spam bucket, tick Subject Header Modification -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Time format in message list display
Batfolk, I have recently installed TB on a Windows 7 64-bit laptop. Everything works well, except that the time displayed in the Received and Created columns in the message list is in a 12 hour format (e.g. 8:11 PM) when the time format set for my laptop (under Settings Control Panel Regional and Language) is 24 hour format (i.e 20:11). I have looked for every possible option in the configuration and options and cannot find any way of changing this. Furthermore, it was like this when I installed TB, then at some stage changed to the 24 hour format, but now has reverted to the 12 hour format. Anyone got any ideas about this? Robin -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Time format in message list display
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 at 14:09:06 +0530,MONSELL wrote: Hi Mr Robin, Anyone got any ideas about this? Would this help? Options - Preferences - Messages - Date/Time display - Default message time format - dd-mm-yy hh:mm - press 'check' button to verify Maybe it would if I had that same menu set up. I go to Options Preferences but then I have Message List Date/Time Format. In that there appears to be no way to change from 12 hour to 24 hour format. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Time format in message list display
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 at 23:40:02 +0200,Roelof wrote: RA Maybe it would if I had that same menu set up. I go to RA Options Preferences but then I have Message List Date/Time Format. RA In that there appears to be no way to change from 12 hour to 24 hour RA format. Actually there is. You can set the time date/format with something: d mmm ,t That way you should get the default time format, when you set the time like hh:nn then you can force am/pm by adding the ampm parameter like this: hh:nn ampm, that implies that only hh:nn would give you the 24 hour format. The ampm parameter won't work with the t an tt settings YES! Thank you, that works. I have no idea why I have to do that since I didn't on my last installation. Perhaps it has something to do with the operating system -- Windows 7 64-bit vs Vista 32-bit -- but at least the problem is solved. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam
On Fri, 21 May 2010 at 20:14:42 -0700,Tim wrote: Just curious but how do you all deal with Spam? Do you have a favorite spam filter that you use with TB. I haven't been able to find anything that has worked that well with TB to control Spam. Thanks in advance for your input!!! I use a combination of Popfile and the free version of AntispamSniper for TB. I use Popfile to categorise into a total of 8 different work and personal categories as well as spam. There have been 3,000 messages classified as spam, and in that time there have been 34 false positives (classified as spam when they are not) and 154 false negatives (classified as not spam when they are). AntispamSniper has classified 5860 messages as spam since Feb 2006 with 116 false positives and, in that time, missed 961 (i.e. false negatives). So Popfile is significantly more accurate, even when it has to choose between 9 different categories for the messages. 7.7% of messages end up categorised as spam, which is the 4th largest classification. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:
On Mon, 3 May 2010 at 11:18:42 +0200, MAU wrote: You have mail :) Perfect. Thank you -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing font for message list
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 at 11:37:06 -0800, Susanne wrote: I always seem to have trouble finding where to set the font for the message list, whenever I set up TB new. That one is not too hard to find (I have problems finding others). Go to Preferences-Message list and it is at the bottom of the window. Also, is it possible to choose a background color for the html messages? I don't know the answer to that -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.12.4 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.0 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Send icon in message editor
Batfolk, I have just upgraded to v4.2. In earlier versions the leftmost icon in the message editor reflected the setting for delivery type (under Account properties - Transport) of immediate or deferred. However in v 4.2, by default the leftmost icon is the immediate send icon (albeit with postponed sending options in the dropdown list). This doesn't change if I set delivery type to be deferred. Since I am a creature of habit, and I don't like this change, is there a way to change the behaviour to that of the earlier version? Robin -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.9.1 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.0 Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: When senders names are separated by commas
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 at 20:38:34 +0400, Assad wrote: RO %To=''%To='%OFromName %OFromAddress'% Thank you for your input. However, I can't get it working. In my opinion, since you use %OFromName, I think it will insert the comma because TB! considers the comma to be part of the name in the original message but when sending, it considers it as two addresses. Correct me if I am wrong here. But as Roelof pointed out, if the name with the comma in it is enclosed in quotes () it will not cause a problem. What he has suggested will do that. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.0 Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Microed editor not respecting the return
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 at 19:37:22 -0700, AC wrote: When I use the Microed editor to write, I press Enter to start a new line, but as soon as I start typing, the typing continues on the previous line where I had left off. So it's a little frustrating. Some more info. The options I have enable for Micro-ed specific options are: auto-wrap, auto-format, smart tabs, backspace unindents, find text at caret position. Try turning auto-format off. If it drives you crazy, try the Windows-compatible editor. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.0 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Headers and hyphens
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 at 11:16:47 +0100, Privateofcourse wrote: Is there some particular way to use a hyphen in a new TB! header? If you want to add, for example, 'X-Newheader' to your message headers, and you use %HDRX-Newheader with a value of string=n in your template, you'd add the following, right? %HDRX-Newheader=string=n No, you need to use the macro %Setheader.(X-Newheader,string=n). The syntax you tried does not accept special characters (including -) -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.0 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachment list
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 at 03:28:23 +0100, MFPA wrote: On Wednesday 8 July 2009 at 2:14:18 AM, in mid:19210397996.20090708111...@wai.com.au, Ian A. White wrote: I use the %ATTACHMENTS macro to list the attachments I send in an e-mail to make sure that the recipient gets them all, however the attached filenames all appear on a line wrapped. With filenames allowed to have spaces, this causes issues with a filename breaking across more than one line. Is there any way to list the attachments one per line with the %ATTACHMENTS macro? Yes. Try http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html and look for Attachments Listing Be sure to follow version 2 instructions. It doesn't seem to be responding, but I use the following, which I think I took from the TB Library. Create a Quick Template called AttList as follows %If:%_FirstTime=:#%- %%_FirstTime=No%- %%If:%Attachments=none:%- %_:%- %_%-Attachments: %_%_Att_List='%Attachments,'%- %_%Qinclude(AttList)#:#%- %%If:%_Att_List:%- %_%SetPattRegexp='(?i)^(.*?),\s*(.*)$'%- %_%RegexpBlindMatch='%_Att_List'%- %_%- * %SubPatt='1' %_%_Att_List=%SubPatt='2'%- %_%Qinclude(AttList):%- %_%- %#%- -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.0 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachment list
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 at 14:32:23 +1000, Ian wrote: G'day Robin, On Wednesday, July 8, 2009, at 1:31:30 PM, you (Robin Anson) wrote: RA Create a Quick Template called AttList as follows RA %If:%_FirstTime=:#%- RA %%_FirstTime=No%- RA %%If:%Attachments=none:%- RA %_:%- RA %_%-Attachments: RA %_%_Att_List='%Attachments,'%- RA %_%Qinclude(AttList)#:#%- RA %%If:%_Att_List:%- RA %_%SetPattRegexp='(?i)^(.*?),\s*(.*)$'%- RA %_%RegexpBlindMatch='%_Att_List'%- RA %_%- * %SubPatt='1' RA %_%_Att_List=%SubPatt='2'%- RA %_%Qinclude(AttList):%- RA %_%- RA %#%- Unfortunately when using the QT, it crashes The Bat!. It simply shuts down instantly and nothing gets written to the exception log. That's strange. I just copied and pasted the code from my email into a new QT and it worked perfectly. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.0 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inline Filtering
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 at 23:30:26 +1000, Mr Happy wrote: Right, I think I've worked out how to reproduce it. If I highlight the message that will be shown when I use the filter, when I use the filter, the 'no message loaded' does not appear (ie it works fine). However, if I highlight the message above the message that will be shown when filtered, and then use the filter, when the filtered message is shown, the 'no message loaded' does appear (ie it doesn't work). I'm not sure why you guys can't replicate it - I've had this bug on every single PC I've ever used The Bat on (it's always driven me nuts, it's just that I've never complained about it before). I'm slightly confused - are you talking about using the Quick Search toolbar? That seems to be the context of your original problem. If that is the case then I am unable to reproduce the example you have described above. However, MFPA expires2...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Works OK here using v4.0.38 on Windows XP. I just searched for messages where header contains 753412370.20090621220...@otten.tv, which is the message-id of Roelof's post I'm replying to. Obviously it only found one. When I select that one by clicking on it, the no message loaded in the preview pane is replaced by the message text. and that can't be done using the Quick Search toolbar - I think it only looks in the TO, FROM and SUBJECT fields and it doesn't look in the message-id header field. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.0 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting sending to default to adelay
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 at 10:43:34 +0100, MFPA wrote: Hi I just googled Postpone macro the bat and found http://www.mail-archive.com/tbb...@thebat.dutaint.com/msg98821.html in which Marek Mikus says:- ...snip... plus 2 day, 2 hours and 3 minutes %POSTPONE=1d 2h 3m You'd reckon that would be _1_ day, 2 hours and 3 minutes . . . or is there something strange about the way the Ritlabs staff count days? -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.0 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with %HDR macro
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 at 19:21:27 -0500, Dwight wrote: On Saturday, June 13, 2009, 2:54:10 PM, Marek Mikus wrote: SETHEADER works here on XP, but not on Vista. and yes, the syntax is the same on both machines. Works on Vista for me - exactly the same syntax as I had running until recently on XP. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.0 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-SPAM solutions
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 at 15:22:48 +0100, Privateofcourse wrote: Hello TBUDL, I've done a bit of leg work, but it seems to me that the majority of so-called 'SPAM blocker/stopper' solutions don't and can't really do anything other than allow you to manage SPAM after-the-fact. That is, SPAM isn't actually blocked or stopped at all, but is managed after it has been received. I wouldn't use something that stopped or blocked SPAM for me. I don't trust anyone else to make the decision about whether something is SPAM because I have seen a small number, but that is too many, of emails incorrectly classified as SPAM. However I use a combination of Popfile and Antispam Sniper for the Bat Free. Either by itself is very good, the combination is excellent. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.0 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Account tree at start up
On Sat, 30 May 2009 at 20:26:44 +0100, Privateofcourse wrote: This is what you said on Sat, 30 May 2009 17:15:05 +0200 your time: yep, look at %APPDATA%\The Bat!\FolderTabs.CDB I've got my message base and the TB! installation folder on a TrueCrypt volume so the %APPDATA% folder was empty, nothing in it re RIT or TB! However, I found the file under my TB! message base, and backed it up before deleting it. Deleting the file did not have any effect on TB! remembering the last expanded account. My experience was slightly different. Like you, I found the FolderTabs.CDB file in my message base. I closed TB! and renamed the file. When I opened TB! all accounts appeared with one level of folders expanded.The FolderTabs.CDB file was automatically recreated (not sure if it was on opening TB! or on subsequently closing it. Since then, all accounts have been behaving as desired, i.e. they all remember the previous state and reopen that way. So for me the problem is now resolved. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.0 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Account tree at start up
On Wed, 27 May 2009 at 12:24:46 +0200, Volker wrote: [Reply to: »Eric« · 2009-05-27 · 11:51 h (CET)] This issue already was a topic on the The Bat! Beta Mailing List, see the thread starting with mid:533358518.20090115174...@fjelsten.dk. http://www.mail-archive.com/tbb...@thebat.dutaint.com/msg96655.html In that thread there was mention of saving settings in Program Files not in the User's Data directory under Vista. I think mine are saved in the User's Data directory, but how can I check this? -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.0 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Account tree at start up
On Wed, 27 May 2009 at 10:51:10 +0100, Eric wrote: On Wed, 27 May 2009 08:08:03 +0200 GMT(27/05/2009, 07:08 + GMT), Peter Fjelsten wrote: PF TB has a bug to the effect that the first (topmost) PF account is always expanded and any user setting is not PF remembered. In my case, however, it's not the first account on the list but the second one down which opens expanded. It is my first account, so I thought I would reorder my accounts and see whether moving my first account to second position would change things. The non-remembering still applies to the same account, which is now in second position. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.0 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Account tree at start up
Batfolk, I have 6 accounts in TB. When I start the program 5 of them show the same layout of folders as when I closed the account. That is, if the account was collapsed showing no folders at all, that is how it opens up. Similarly, if the account was expanded showing all the folders and subfolders, then when TB starts up, that is what it shows. However one of my accounts always opens up with all the first level folders displayed and one of those folders expanded showing the next level of subfolders. It does that no matter what it looked like when I closed it. Can anyone suggest why that might be the case?? Robin -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.0 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Adding additional addresses automatically (was: Re: Reply not finding Reply Template (solved, I think))
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 at 05:35:13 -0400, Leonard wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:39 PM, MAU m...@rancho-k.com wrote: My point is that I want to send the e-mail to _both_ addresses. If I have two or more addresses on the same line addresses on the same line, I will be able to do that, but then the reply template will not be picked up because the address in the address book, by definition does not match the address in the incoming e-mail. So, to get the best of all worlds, I need two (or more) address entries; to send mail to both (or all of this person's addresses, I have to select each of them. (I think we are beginning to go around in circles on this thread.) This was one reason I made use of the memo field to store secondary email addresses. Miguel hates this because it relies heavily on regular expressions, but if you have a bit of patience you might like to try it. Firstly include the line: %QInclude(Add_CC)%- in your New Message, Reply and Forward templates for your accounts. Then in your address book entry include one email address in the usual place and include the second email address in the memo field (on the Other tab) in this form on a line by itself: CCper...@otherdomain.com/CC It doesn't have to be the only information in the memo tab, just by itself on one line. Then you need to set up the following quick templates. There are 4 of them, and you need them all. They call one another in a chain and the effect is to look for secondary addresses like the one above and automatically add them in the CC field. If you were to put the address between BCC tags like this: BCCper...@otherdomain.com/BCC the address would be added to the BCC field. If there are multiple recipients in the TO or CC fields, the macros will do this for each person. Copy and paste the contents between the marked Start and End lines. Please make sure that long lines do not get wrapped in the Quick Template editor. The first macro is called Add_CC (without the quotes of course). [ Start Add_CC ] %REM= Include secondary addresses noted in memo field between CC or BCC tags. A token is identified by a line of the form: CCXXX/CC or BCCXXX/BCC Usage: %QInclude(Add_CC) Written by Robin Anson 4 Dec 2005 updated to include BCC 3 Sep 2008 %- %- %REM= %_AddCC_List stores the original list of recipients %_AddCC_Temp stores the list of recipients yet to be processed %_AddCC_CC stores the CC list %- %- %rem=^ Initialise variables ^%- %_AddCC_Done=yes%- %_AddCC_List=%ToList%- %_AddCC_Temp=%_AddCC_List, %CCList%- %_AddCC_CC=%CCList%- %_AddCC_BCC=%- %CC=%- %BCC=%- %- %_FTT_Status=0%- %QInclude(FindTknType0,%_AddCC_Temp,CC,%_AddCC_CC)%- %CC=%_FindTkn_Text%- %_FTT_Status=0%- %QInclude(FindTknType0,%_AddCC_Temp,BCC,%_AddCC_BCC)%- %BCC=%_FindTkn_Text%- %SetHeader(To,%_AddCC_List)%- =[ End Add_CC ]= The next is FindTknType0 [ Start FindTknType0 ] %Rem=' FindTokenType0 returns a list of values of a single token from an XML style entry in the memo fields of a list of address book entries. The list contains the value for that token if it exists for each address in the address list Usage: %_FTT_Status=0 %QInclude(FindTknType0,Address_list,Token,start_value) Returns: %_FindTkn_Text '%- %_FT_AL=%_1%- %_FT_Token=%_2%- %_FT_start=%_3%- %If:|%_FT_AL|||%- :|%If:%_FTT_Status=0%- :%_FT_AlHold='%_1'%- %_FTT_Status='1'%- %_FindTkn_Text='%_FT_start'%- :%- %QInclude(ParseAddressList,%_FT_AL)%- %SetHeader(To,%_FirstAddress)%- %_FT_AL=%_RemainingAddressList%- %_FT_TmpTxt=%QInclude(Get_Memo_Attribute,'%_FT_Token','%_FT_default')%- %If:^%_FT_TmpTxt^^^%- :^%If:+%_FindTkn_Text+=++%- :+%_FindTkn_Text='%_FT_TmpTxt'+%- :+%If:/%SetPattRegexp='%_FT_TmpTxt'%RegexpMatch='%_FindTkn_Text'/=//%- :/%_FindTkn_Text='%_FindTkn_Text, %_FT_TmpTxt'/://+^%- :^^%- %QInclude(FindTknType0,'%_FT_AL','%_FT_Token','%_FT_start')|%- :||%- =[ End FindTknType0 ]= The third is ParseAddressList [ Start ParseAddressList ] %Rem=^ Usage: %QInclude(ParseAddressList,ListOfAddresses) Returns: %_FirstAddress: first address from the list %_RemainingAddressList: address list without the first ^%- %- %_FirstAddress=%- %_RemainingAddressList=%- %If:'%_1'''%- :'%setpattregexp=#^((?(?=)[^]*)[^;,]*)[;,\s]*(.*?)[;,\s]*$#%- %regexpblindmatch=%_1%- %_FirstAddress=+%subpatt=1+%- %_RemainingAddressList=+%Subpatt=2+'%- :''%- =[ End ParseAddressList ]= And the fourth is Get_Memo_Attribute [ Start Get_Memo_Attribute ] %Rem=' Usage: attribute value=%QInclude(Get_Memo_Attribute,Tag,Default_Value) This will return the value from a line in the address book memo field that looks like this: tagvalue/tag Or the Default_Value if no such line exists '%- %If:'%SetPattRegExp=(?im)^%_1%RegExpMatch=%ABToMemo'='':'%_2'%- :'%If:+%SetPattRegExp=(?im)^(%_1/)%RegExpMatch=%ABToMemo+++:++%- :+%SetPattRegExp=(?im)^(?:%_1)(.*?)(?:/%_1)%RegExpMatch=%ABToMemo+'%- =[ End
Re: OT: storing new data entities
This is OT for TBBETA, so I have copied it to TBUDL and TBOT too. On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 at 11:21:47 +0100, Volker wrote: I have found that it's relatively easy to set up macros to use the Memo field to hold all sorts of useful information like that. Hey, that sounds good to me! :-) For instance I use the following structure in a Memo field: akaJoe/aka closingKind regards/closing closingnameJack Black/closingname receiptsread delivery/receipts ccjsm...@yahoo.com/cc bcctrevor.tur...@company.com.au/bcc How would such a macro look like? – Thanks in advance. As Miguel suggested, it relies on regex. So perhaps relatively easy depends upon your desire to play around with regex! The basic macro is very similar to the one that Maurice showed in mid:1974229872.20090304125...@hypercube.demon.nl The macro I use to extract the information from the memo field is [ Macro: Get_Memo_Attribute ] %Rem=' Usage: attribute value=%QInclude(Get_Memo_Attribute,Tag,Default_Value) This will return the value from a line in the address book memo field that looks like this: tagvalue/tag Or the Default_Value if no such line exists '%- %If:'%SetPattRegExp=(?im)^%_1%RegExpMatch=%ABToMemo'='':'%_2'%- :'%If:+%SetPattRegExp=(?im)^(%_1/)%RegExpMatch=%ABToMemo+++:++%- :+%SetPattRegExp=(?im)^(?:%_1)(.*?)(?:/%_1)%RegExpMatch=%ABToMemo+'%- [ End Macro ] I use this in a set of more complex macros that specify what information to retrieve (by identifying the tag) and, if necessary, identifying a default value so that I can deal with the case of no value being set. The main complexity is that I have created macros that cater for a list of multiple recipients. The macros will parse the list of recipients and extract the attribute from each recipient's memo field and then take action depending upon how many recipients have a value in the attribute, how many different values there are, etc. For instance, if one of the multiple recipients has a read or delivery receipt set, it is applied to the message using this macro which recursively processes each address in the recipient list. [ Macro: SetReceipts ] %REM=^%- Set read or delivery receipt notification flags if the recipient's addressbook memo entry contains an attribute with the tag receipts with the value read or delivery respectively ^%- %- %REM=%- %_SR_Text stores the original list of recipients %_SR_Temp stores the list of recipients yet to be processed %_RR_Flag is set to 1 if read receipt required %_DR_Flag is set to 1 if delivery receipt required %- %- %If:#%_SR_FirstTime#=##%- :#%- %_SR_FirstTime=No%- %_SR_Text=%ToList%- %_SR_Temp=%_SR_Text%- %_RR_Flag=no%- %_DR_Flag=no%- %QInclude(SetReceipts)#%- :#%- %- %REM=*** Parse the Recipient List ***%- %- %If:'%setpattregexp=@%- %regexpmatch=%_SR_Temp'''%- :'%setpattregexp=(?i)^((?:.*?)@(?:.*?))(?:,|;)\s*(.*)?%- %regexpblindmatch=%_SR_Temp,%- %SetHeader(+To+,+%subpatt=1+)%- %_SR_Temp=+%Subpatt=2+%- %- %- %REM= *** Get the receipt attribute *** %- %- %_MemoAttribute=+%QInclude(Get_Memo_Attribute,receipts,)+%- %_RR_Flag=%If:+%SetPattRegExp=(?im).*Read%RegExpMatch=%_MemoAttribute+++:+yes+:+%_RR_Flag+%- %_DR_Flag=%If:+%SetPattRegExp=(?im).*Delivery%RegExpMatch=%_MemoAttribute+++:+yes+:+%_DR_Flag+%- %QInclude(SetReceipts)'%- :'%- %If:%_RR_Flag=yes:%ReadConfirm:%NoReadConfirm%- %If:%_DR_Flag=yes:%RcptConfirm:%NoRcptConfirm%- %SetHeader(To,%_SR_Text)#%- [ End Macro ] Other macros I use set the name(s) in the greeting at the top of the message, choose the sig used at the end of the message, allow me to automatically add CC or BCC addresses, etc -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Reply template not working
From: %OFromName %OFromAddr
Sent: %OHeader('Date')
To: %OToList
%IF:%OCcList= : : Cc: %OCcList
Subject: %OSubject
%Quotes
This works fine for messages with a cc, however when the
template is used to reply to a message without a cc then processing of
the macros's stops immediately before the subject. Entering the normal
%- doesn't seem to have any effect. Do you know how I could make it
continue to process after the %IF macro?
You are missing a final at the end of the %IF line
--
Robin
Using The Bat! v4.1.7
Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3
Popfile v0.22.4
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Re: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 at 10:25:53 +1100, Ian wrote: G'day, Is there any simple way to move a QT specific to an account to a Common QT as you can do with account and common filters? Wouldn't you just tick the box that says Share with other accounts? I have that for most of my QTs because I use them with all accounts. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.38 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.1.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: System error message after running for a long while
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 at 14:18:36 +0100, MAU wrote: Hello Robin, After TB! has been running for more than about 10 hours, I get the following error message when it tries to connect to any of my POP accounts. After a reboot the system works perfectly well again. !18/12/2008, 17:55:49: FETCH - System Error. Code: 8. Not enough storage is available to process this command It does not seem to have always been present with this version of TB! (although I cannot guarantee that). Anyone else seen this? Any ideas about fixing it? The error text seems to suggest that you may be running out of disk space. Have you checked this recently? No, I have 21 GB of free space on the system drive and 51 GB of free space on my data drive. Have you 'cleaned' your 'temp' folder recently? It gets cleaned at boot up, so there is not much accumulating in it. Furthermore if I reboot TB! the problem goes away and that doesn't change the temp folder. It seems more like a memory leak or some sort of internal space problem, but TB! doesn't seem to be using a lot of memory (at least not based on the Windows Task Manager Mem Usage figure. Can't think of anything else. Nor can I. But thanks for the thoughts. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.38 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
System error message after running for a long while
Batfolk, After TB! has been running for more than about 10 hours, I get the following error message when it tries to connect to any of my POP accounts. After a reboot the system works perfectly well again. !18/12/2008, 17:55:49: FETCH - System Error. Code: 8. Not enough storage is available to process this command It does not seem to have always been present with this version of TB! (although I cannot guarantee that). Anyone else seen this? Any ideas about fixing it? Robin -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.38 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Skinning TB!
Batfolk, Can anyone point me to instructions on reworking the icons for TB!? I have a file of customised icons, and some time back created a batskin.xml file to modify the look of the interface. But I really don't know what I am doing with any of it and would like to do a better job of it. Robin -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.34 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox Synchronization in IMAP with TB
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 at 13:48:04 +0300, Stefan wrote: Hello Bob, If you don't do any fine-tune, you should get TB! working good and fast with GMail's IMAP. At least, it works this way here. Synchronisation settings should be used only if you want to stay offline for a while or want TB! to prefetch some data before you start reading it. Generally, I would not recommend any synchronisation if you have almost permanent connection to the Net. Hmm, I don't think that I really understand what synchronising and subscribing mean in relation to IMAP. Can you explain it, or point to a web resource that does So -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Groups
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 at 00:23:34 +1000, Mr wrote: Hi everyone, I want to setup a distribution list for some of the people I have in my address book. Problem is, when I create a group in the Bat and move the people into it, their entries are removed from the root level of the address book. What this means is that if I want to send an email to a person individually, there is an extra click - I first have to open the address book and then instead of just double clicking on their entry, I have to first open the group and then double click on their entry. Is there another way to do this, or is there a way to have a person in both a group and the root of the address book at the same time? Go to the group, right click and select properties, untick the item labelled Hide items if not explicitly selected. The contents of the group will appear back in the root of the address book. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search System for TheBat!
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 at 21:09:41 +0100, Barry wrote: On 06/07/2008 20:51:12, Jens Franik wrote: And the Price is 30,- to 45,- Euro - did you forget to mention this? For me I was very happy to pay what I considered a fair price after trialling the program for free. After all it works as described, there's plenty of paid for software out there that doesn't deliver. Yes, I agree with you Barry. I tried this one after having tried a number of the free search tools for my computer, and ended up deciding it was worth paying for. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing unread color
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 at 07:06:18 -0400, Bob wrote: My unread message line text is blue. I surmise this comes from the theme. I would like to make it a color that stands out more,like red. Can't find the option. I depends a bit on your version, but try Options - Preferences - Colour Groups Font and then modify the default (generic) colour group. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting Office question
On Wed, 28 May 2008 at 20:18:11 +0200, Roelof wrote: Hallo Tim, You've enabled 'continue processing...' in order to enable the filtering with suhfilters, is that it? You don't have to, as A cliff-hanger ending! You have to wait for the next episode for the answer. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Accessing the alternate addresses
On Thu, 22 May 2008 at 10:50:03 -0500, Nick wrote: Is there some way to access the additional addresses you may have for someone listed in their contact info? I understand the top address is the default, but I can't find any method to get to the other addresses other than going to the contact page and then copy paste the darn thing into a new message. Seems there must be an easier solution. See the thread on cycling through auto-complete recipients mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cycle Through Auto-Complete Recipients?
On Thu, 22 May 2008 at 14:53:11 -0400, Dave wrote: On Thursday, May 22, 2008, Nick Dutton wrote: Thanks for your reply, Nick. Unfortunately the Ctl-+ (where the + is the numeric keypad +) does nothing here. I've tried just about every combination I can think of to no avail. :( It may have something to do with your autocomplete setting. In your version of TB! I think it is found under Options - Preferences - System. Do you have address books in autocomplete? I would test it on my system, but I have lost the location of the autocomplete setting. Or rather Ritlabs moved it, and I can't find it any more. Anyone know where it went? -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cycle Through Auto-Complete Recipients?
On Fri, 23 May 2008 at 08:03:15 +1000, Robin wrote: On Thu, 22 May 2008 at 14:53:11 -0400, Dave wrote: On Thursday, May 22, 2008, Nick Dutton wrote: Thanks for your reply, Nick. Unfortunately the Ctl-+ (where the + is the numeric keypad +) does nothing here. I've tried just about every combination I can think of to no avail. :( It may have something to do with your autocomplete setting. In your version of TB! I think it is found under Options - Preferences - System. Do you have address books in autocomplete? I would test it on my system, but I have lost the location of the autocomplete setting. Or rather Ritlabs moved it, and I can't find it any more. Anyone know where it went? Oops. Now I have found it, and also realise that the above location is also wrong for v3.99. I actually searched the archives and found a response from Marek Mikus to Dave Goodman back in March 2006 that pointed to autocomplete at Options | Preferences | Message headers where click to header and select Edit Not really intuitive, but it gives you more functionality as a compromise. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cycle Through Auto-Complete Recipients?
On Mon, 19 May 2008 at 15:46:24 +0100, Nick wrote: Hello, I'm OK with most of them, but there's a tip here: http://email.about.com/cs/thebattips/qt/et083101.htm - How to Cycle Through Auto-Complete Recipients in The Bat! Apparently this can be achieved with the ctl+ combination. It doesn't work here, can anyone help me find it? Seems to be the + on the numeric keypad only that works with this. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronization revisited (gmail/imap/pop)
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 at 14:39:46 -0500, Achdut18 wrote: OK. I just tried to reset the protocol for this acccount from POP3 to IMAP4. However, the Bat produced an error message that said: Cannot change protocol to IMAP4. Create a new account instead. Well, I don't want to create a new account. This account is subscribed to over a half a dozen listservs. If I have to change the account, that means rejoining each of these listervs, changing filters, etc. Is there an easier way to do this? You don't need to change your listserv because your email address remains the same. It's just that you create a new account in TB! to access the email. You will need to modify your filters though. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.20 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Toolbars
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 at 12:11:19 +0100, Roelof wrote: PJ I am unable to put any toolbars above the PJ folder tree or preview pane. How can I reset the toolbar positions? You can do that by deleting the tbuser.def file in the mail directory. (That's the tbuser.eef file when using otfe.) I must say that that's a rather unsatisfactory solution as that deletes all your customisations. I am having similar sorts of problems, and that one made no difference at all for me. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.18 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top-level folder has disappeared.
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 at 14:21:39 +0100, MAU wrote: Hello Hans, I have seen this happen before myself and, as far as I know, these 'reappeared' folders are 'leftovers' from the past. There were some buggy versions of TB that, even selecting 'Wipe' option when deleting a folder, would delete the contents but not the folder itself. At least that is my experience. I used to run the TB plugin for Google desktop, and it left some sort of an index file in the folder on the disk. So when I told TB to wipe a TB folder and remove it from the disk, it couldn't because the folder on disk was not empty.A subsequent CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-L would find that empty folder. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't add words to the spell check dictionary
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 at 02:49:35 +0100, MAU wrote: Hello Robin, I see in your signature you are using v4.0.14, correct? We are currently testing 4.0.14.3, the third 'post release' (or Beta if you wish) after 4.0.14 and there have been some tweaking and improvements in spell checking and I think this has been corrected. Ah well, I will just work with the American English dictionary for a while until an updated version is released. Thanks Miguel -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can't add words to the spell check dictionary
Batfolk, I am having a problem adding words to the spell checker dictionary. It works fine as long as I have American English selected as the language, and it works if I have both American and British English selected, but not if I have only British English selected. I also note that the default dictionary to add word to is accent.tlx rather than userdic.tlx which is, I believe, the one that should be used. I am using the SSCE spell checker. I have no idea how to use either or the other options since I can't find any information about them, so I can't test to see whether the problem extends to these. Anyone else experience this problem? Or have any ideas how to resolve it? Robin -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't add words to the spell check dictionary
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 at 13:51:05 +0100, MAU wrote: Hello Robin, snipped Anyone else experience this problem? Or have any ideas how to resolve it? When you right click on a word you want to add and if you select 'Dictionary to add to', does any of the user dictionaries appear as selected (i.e. with a check mark on the left)? Yes, it does. There are 4 dictionaries listed (accent.tlx, correct.tlx, Ssceam.tlx and UserDic.tlx). When I open a new message, it always defaults to accent.tlx, although setting it to UserDic seems to stick while a message is open. However, despite this, when I try to add a word to the dictionary, the word is still noted as misspelt, although now that I look at the dictionary, the word has been added. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hunspell spell checker
Batfolk, I notice on the beta list discussion about the Hunspell spell checker. I also notice that the this latest released version of TB installs a hunspell.dll file in my program directory. However, needless to say, there is nothing about it in the help files. Can anyone tell me what it means? Robin -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Time Zone Conversion Error?
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 at 09:26:28 GMT, Barry wrote: Hi all I'm trying to figure whether the 'Created' date conversion from one time zone to the other is a Bat problem. This is the Created Date field data: 14 January 2000, 23:09:00 (11-Feb-2008 15:42:09 CET) I'm assuming that the email is created in the CET time zone, hence the date in brackets, and that the date shown as 14 January 2000, 23:09:00 is the date converted to my time zone, which should be GMT. Is this a function of Windows, TheBat! or a bit of both? It is a function of TB, but it looks from the above as though it is not correctly formatted in the original message itself. To check, highlight the message and then press CTRL-SHIFT-K to show the headers. Then find the header that starts with Date:, copy the entire line and paste in an email for us to see. The format should be Date: DDD, DD MMM HH:mm:ss ZZZ For instance, in your email the header says Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:26:28 GMT How do I get it to show the correct date? If the problem is an incorrect format, you can export the file to a unix mailbox format, edit the format to correct it and then re-import the message. If you are more daring you could edit the messages.tbb file in the appropriate mail folder directly, but that is more risky. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.11 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Time Zone Conversion Error?
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 at 10:16:31 GMT, Barry wrote: On 12/02/2008 09:43:46, Robin Anson wrote: It is a function of TB, but it looks from the above as though it is not correctly formatted in the original message itself. To check, highlight the message and then press CTRL-SHIFT-K to show the headers. Then find the header that starts with Date:, copy the entire line and paste in an email for us to see. The format should be Date: DDD, DD MMM HH:mm:ss ZZZ Date: 11-Feb-2008 15:42:09 CET So how does this compare with your template? It should read something like: Date: 11 Feb 2008 15:42:09 CET A more complete specification for the date syntax can be found in RFC 2822 (the Internet message format standard). In summary, it allows for: * optional day-of-the-week (3 character) followed by a comma * 1 or 2 digit day number * 3 character month name * 4 digit year (although it allows for the obsolete 2 digit year form) * 2 digits each of hour, minute and seconds, separated by : * Timezone expressed as + or - followed by 4 digits (although it allows for a range of obsolete codes including 3 character codes like CET) What it doesn't permit is the - between the date elements that you have identified above. If the problem is an incorrect format, you can export the file to a unix mailbox format, edit the format to correct it and then re-import the message. If you are more daring you could edit the messages.tbb file in the appropriate mail folder directly, but that is more risky. I don't really want to be messing about editing incoming emails, if the conversion is an error with the sender's data, then I'll inform them. It seems to be On the other hand if the problem is with TheBat! then it needs reporting as a bug, I guess? It seems not to be -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.11 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: missing attachments
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 at 10:53:54 -0500, Peter wrote: For some reasons I cannot add attachments to my e-mail. When I copy an attachment from a file it shows up as usual on the side bar, but the file size is 20-25 KB instead of the usual 100-300Kb. Then it changes to 0 KB soon and when I want to send I get a message: Cannot open file The system cannot find the path specified. I tried MicroEd, Windows plain and HTML format with the same result. You are using a beta version of TB, you should probably take this to the TBBeta list -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.11 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TNEF support, how does it work?
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 at 23:39:25 +0100, MAU wrote: Hello Gerard, I was pleased to see the inclusion of TNEF support for those nasty winmail.dat files. I just installed 4.0.11 and sailed to a folder full of these attachments only to find I still cant do anything with them in TB. As ussual the help file or the website don't provide a clue on how to use/activate. Anyone here that figured it out? You don't need to do anything. Although the winmail.dat is still shown as an attachment, its contents is displayed in the message pane. You can verify that if you open the winmail.dat attachment with Winmail Opener (http://www.eolsoft.com/freeware/winmail_opener/) Funny, I tried looking at a file that had a winmail.dat attachment, and TB doesn't show it. Winmail Opener works fine on it. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.11 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade to v4.0.11?
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 at 20:20:19 -0600, Greg wrote: Hello Thomas, I've already installed. I want to buy the upgrade license. Can I purchase the upgrade license without being a returning customer at CIFNet authorization per https://www.cifnet.com/ritlabs/order.php ? If you had a licensed copy of v3.x, it is still good for V4.0.x. There is no need for a separate licence. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.11 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best 3.x Version?
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 at 12:51:52 +0100, Martin wrote: Hello Tbudl, As I am currently not brave enough (and neither have the time nor the need to upgrade to 4.x) I would simply like to install the latest and best 3.x version and live happily with it for the next years. I found 3.99.29 to be pretty good. There were no bugs in it that affected me. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.9 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What's with the version 4 updates?
Batfolk, I started this morning installing version 4.0.0.2, and now I have just downloaded and installed 4.0.11, going via 4.0.7 and 4.0.9 on the way. Anyone know what the updates have been about? Robin -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.11 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which spam filter for The Bat?
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 at 08:03:35 +0200, Costas wrote: One of my email addresses has recently started being flooded by spam. I wonder which spam filtering program you would recommend for me to use with The Bat. I have used Popfile for several years very satisfactorily, but I use it for more than just classifying spam/not spam, I use it to classify mail into multiple work and personal categories. I also use Antispamsniper for The Bat as a backup program, although in relation to spam it usually exactly matches Popfile. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.99.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book and New Message Template
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 at 17:24:00 -0500, Maggie wrote: MP Could it be you have more than one entry for them in your AB? I have an additional entry for him alone and for her alone both with their own handles. I have a suspicion that when called from the main screen, TB! just looks for the first entry in the address book with the particular email address. So if all 3 entries have the same email address, although you call the joint entry by nickname, it still goes back and finds Joe's solitary entry when looking for the template to use. Try changing the email address (temporarily) in the address book entry for him alone, and creating an email from the main screen. If it then goes to the AB template from the joint entry (or even the one for Sue alone) it will prove this to be the case. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.99.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Check for Viruses
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 at 10:53:17 +0100, Fredrik wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:02:33 +0200 GMT, Eddie wrote: I think that the plugin is / can be installed by the AVG Professional setup package. You should be able to run the setup package again if you already have installed AVG to modify your installation and select the plugin. Thank you Fredrik. Do I understand this right, that I need to have AVG Pro in order to us the TB!plugin? Or can I just use it without the whole package? It seems that you need AVG Pro fully installed to use the plugin. The plugin does not seem to be included in the AVG Free package either. No, that is not correct. I am running AVG Free and under the Email Scanner there is an option for AVG Free Edition Plugin for The Bat! However, I also notice that it is greyed out in the Folder menu. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.99.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments question
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 at 19:56:11 -0600, Christopher wrote: Also, there is an option to bind attachments only when sending out mail. What does this mean? If unchecked, right before the message is sent, The Bat! will open the attached file and encode it. Any changes you make between attaching the file and sending it WILL be sent. If checked, The Bat! will encode the file the moment you attach the file. Any changes you make between attaching the file and sending it WILL NOT be sent. Actually the other way around! If you check it, the version of the file that is current when you send the email is attached. If it is not checked, the version of the file that is current when the email was written is attached. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.99.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: testing pgp/mime
Henk On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 at 09:04:12 +0100, Henk wrote: testing pgp/mime I get an invalid signature and an unknown signature format here. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.99.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: testing pgp/mime
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 at 03:57:33 +0100, Henk wrote: I get an invalid signature and an unknown signature format here. Something went wrong, but I think I have found the solution? No, I get the same result. However I was using the internal support (RFC-1991). When I searched out my copy of PGP 8.1 and installed that, the signature verified okay. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.99.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wrong time-stamp on mail received.
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 at 12:50:51 +, Doug wrote: Other than that, I don't think I have a way to fix the past problem, except I have changed sorting to creation date. You can export those emails to a Unix mailbox format and then edit the date on the first line of each email. This line starts with the word From but is not followed by a colon, then has the sender and the received date and time. If edit the date and time and then re-import the messages, it will fix the problem. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.99.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Outbound Problem
On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 at 10:25:10 -0400, Dave wrote: I've had an intermittent ongoing problem for the past several months. When sending email it quite properly goes to the outbox and an attempt is made to connect to the smtp server, but after some time the attempt aborts with the error message Could not connect to the server, which is also shown in the account log. This happens to outbounds on all of my three different accounts. I have experienced something similar recently, but only once. Interestingly it only happened on one account, the other two accounts could send perfectly well. However all accounts use the same SMTP server! I've enabled protocol logging, but since there is no connection and hence no protocol exchange, the protocol log remains empty. The smtp settings in TB! seem to be correct, and have not changed in several years. Same here. The problem is intermittent; sometimes a message will be sent and the next message, a few seconds later, hangs. Once a message hangs, it hangs indefinitely. Restarting TB! is no help. And while the TB! outbound is hanging, other internet connections work normally. There my experience was different. When I shut down my laptop and rebooted it some time later, the message was sent. Any thoughts would be appreciated... Nothing that suggests a solution I'm afraid. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.99.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Replying Messages that come to different accounts, from different accounts and a note of thanks to Mr Robin Anson
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 at 11:30:30 +0530, Monsell wrote: is there a way to overcome this situation and get the REPLY-TO field automatically configured to indicate the account email id from which the message is sent out? I suspect the simplest way is not to configure the REPLY-TO field at all. It is only needed if the REPLY-TO is different to the FROM address. If they are the same, then leave the REPLY-TO blank in each of the account properties configurations. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.99.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Block sender?
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 at 21:41:58 +0700, Thomas wrote: QS Does TB! offer a means to block individual senders temporarily QS and/or permanently? Yes. There are two ways: 1. Create an Incoming filter which will move his messages to Trash and mark them as read. You could create an IGNORE group in your address book and set a filter condition of Address group IGNORE contains sender. Then you simply have to right click on the FROM field in instance of an email from this sender and add the name to this group in your address book. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.99.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dictionaries and Vista
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 at 17:11:53 +0100, MFPA wrote: When I was at infant school in the early 1970s, older books and older teachers used the z. By the time I was in my teens, it was very unusual to see -ize except in an American text (or an old one, of course). In recent years, I have noticed the z spellings with increasing frequency - probably due to naff spellcheckers on PCs. FWIW, from the Oxford Dictionaries Ask Oxford.com (http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutspelling/ize) British spelling has always recognized the existence of variant spellings using the suffix -ize/-ise. When American spelling was standardized during the 19th century (mainly through the efforts of the great American lexicographer Noah Webster), the consistent use of -ize was one of the conventions that became established. However, since then, the -ise spellings have become more popular in Britain (and in other English-speaking countries such as Australia), perhaps partly as a reaction against the American custom. Spellings such as organisation would have struck many older British writers as rather French-looking. The Oxford English Dictionary favoured -ize, partly on the linguistic basis that the suffix derives from the Greek suffix -izo, and this was also the style of Encyclopaedia Britannica (even before it was American-owned) and formerly of the Times newspaper. The main advantage of the modern -ise habit? Lazy spellers do not have to remember that there are several important words which cannot properly be spelt with -ize. These include words which are not formed by the addition of the -ize prefix to a stem, but by some other root which happens to end in the same syllable, such as -vise (as in televise), -cise (as in incise), and -prise (as in comprise). The American system resulted in the creeping of z into some other words where it did not originally belong. Writers of American English should be aware of some spellings that are regarded as incorrect in the UK, notably analyze. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.99.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: .EML associations don't remain sticky
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 at 20:23:16 +1000, Lonewolf wrote: lrca Hey, I spoke too early! Issue has come back after a reboot. Go back to 3.99.3 and see if it happens again (I think it won't). I really don't think it is worth the effort. Strange thing - this issue is on my lap top at home; running Bat! at work with no such issues. I ended up changing the permissions in the registry so that applications were able to read, but not write, to that particular key. The only (relatively minor) problem with that is I have to reverse the process each time MS issues an Outlook patch and then reinstate the changes afterwards. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.99.3 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SSL
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 at 16:16:29 +1000, Rex wrote: I have a mail account that requires SSL for the Incoming POP server. I do not see an option for this on my version of the The Bat Professional Edition My system details are below Under the account properties, select Transport and then in the Connection box under Receive Mail select either Secure to regular port (STARTTLS) or Secure to dedicated port (TLS). TLS is the successor to (and compatible with) SSL. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.99.3 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which one to use?
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 at 11:42:01 -0400, Rich wrote: AH! Ok then, so that I may possibly better my template (perhaps simplifying it to as RA suggests), the next line is: Dear %Capital(%TOFNAME=+%if:%ABToHandle:%- %if:'%ABToHandle''%ABToFirstName':'%ABToHandle':'%ABToFirstName':%ABToFirstName+) This says: If the first name in the TO address (%ToFName) exists then use it otherwise if the address book handle is not blank then if the address book handle is different to the address book first name, then use the address book handle otherwise use the address book first name otherwise (if the address book handle is blank) use the address book first name -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.99.3 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which one to use?
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 at 21:27:59 -0400, Rich wrote: RA On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 at 16:03:38 +, Doug wrote: That way, even if the address says Quality Manager, your reply will say Dear Dave, Dear %ABTOFirstName, If you reply to someone who is not in your address book, you will get Dear , RA Even better is to use RA Dear %Capital(%ABToFirstName=%ToFName) RA If the Address book first name is blank, it takes the first name from RA that address. In my (2.12) templates I have: Dear %Capital(%TOFNAME=+%if:%ABToHandle:%- but do not know what it does! I like the sound (explanation) of RA's template, and sometimes I am puzzled as to how occasionally the way my emails get addressed seems very counter-intuitive! Maybe I'd be better off adopting his. Can anyone please explain to me (not remembering where it came from) what my present template does? You don't seem to have quoted the entire part. The next line or perhaps more are required. What you have there says use the first name of the address if it exists. If it doesn't, then if the address book handle is present ... but what to do in that case appears on the next lines. Presumably the address book handle contains the person's common name (i.e. Jim instead of James). Unfortunately that is pretty restricted because each one address book handle must be unique if it is not blank. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.99.3 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problems getting messages to show in IMAP folders
Batfolk, I am using IMAP to access a MS Exchange server. It works reasonably well most of the time, but right now I am unable to get messages that I know are in folders on the Exchange server from showing in my IMAP folder. Some of them show, but not all of them. I have tried Refreshing the folder. I have tried clearing the cache. I have tried adjusting the synchronisation settings. I have tried disconnecting and reconnecting to the server. Nothing seems to make any difference. BTW can anyone tell me what subscribing means in relation to server folders? It doesn't seem to do anything that I can understand. Has anyone got an idea for a solution? If I can't make this work, I might as well go back to the dreaded Outlook Web Access interface. Robin -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.99.3 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
