Re: Mod: Top posting (was: moving the bat to other folder)
Hi Marck, Sorry about the top posting, and I just did a reply the same way :( I will think on this in the future! rgds, Wilfried Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: moving the bat to other folder
Hi, Thanks for reply. No removing that tick prevent it from running again with same exception error. BTW: I'm logged in as administrator on that machine. I did not copy it (for rights reasons) to the program files folder, but a folder where I have program not installed with an installer (to know the difference). I have no programs in that folder that write to the registry - maybe that is the reason. Anyway I hope my experiance - solution can benefit others too. Thanks again for quick reply! best regards, Wilfried 2010/10/24 MFPA > Hi > > > On Sunday 24 October 2010 at 12:00:18 PM, in > > >, > Wilfried Mestdagh wrote: > > > > > I found the trouble. If I check 'run this program as > > administrator' then all is working fine. > > That's good. Having got it to run at least once, does removing that > tick prevent it from running again? > > > > > Strange: I checked the old copy and this was not > > checked. Also it is not copied in the 'program file > > (x86)' folder so there should be no restrictions. > > I can't tell you about Vista but in XP some programs only work if > you run as administrator - I never had this issue with TB!. > > And some need to be ran as administrator once in each user logon, but > will work with ordinary "user" privileges after that. I also never had > this issue with TB! (but of course the installer is run as admin...). > > -- > Best regards > > MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com > > Change is inevitable except from a vending machine > > Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 > > > > Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: > http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html > -- mvg, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: moving the bat to other folder
Hi, I found the trouble. If I check 'run this program as administrator' then all is working fine. Strange: I checked the old copy and this was not checked. Also it is not copied in the 'program file (x86)' folder so there should be no restrictions. rgds, Wilfried 2010/10/24 Wilfried Mestdagh > Hi, > > I tryed it again and the exact error is: Exception ERegistryException in > module thebat.exe at 0005DC53. Failed to set data for ''. > > rgds, Wilfried > > 2010/10/24 Wilfried Mestdagh > > Hi, >> >> No I started the bat.exe in the new location by direct clicking on the >> executable. >> >> what I did was first export registry HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The >> bat!, made a copy of it, changed all path values to the new path, then >> import again. Are you saying this is the correct way to do? >> >> rgds, Wilfried >> >> 2010/10/24 MFPA >> >> Hi >>> >>> >>> On Sunday 24 October 2010 at 9:51:12 AM, in >>> >>> >, >>> Wilfried Mestdagh wrote: >>> >>> >>> > Hi, >>> >>> > I have the bat version 2.12.00 installed on a Vista 64 >>> > bit machine and want to move it to another folder. I >>> > have already tryed to do and change all the registry >>> > values where a folder name was in to the new folder >>> > name, but after the move The Bat fails to start. >>> >>> Is the shortcut you are trying to start it from still pointing to the >>> old location? >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards >>> >>> MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com >>> >>> Volvo, Video, Velcro. (I came, I saw, I stuck around.) >>> >>> Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 >>> >>> >>> >>> Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: >>> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> mvg, Wilfried >> http://www.mestdagh.biz >> > > > > -- > mvg, Wilfried > http://www.mestdagh.biz > -- mvg, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: moving the bat to other folder
Hi, I tryed it again and the exact error is: Exception ERegistryException in module thebat.exe at 0005DC53. Failed to set data for ''. rgds, Wilfried 2010/10/24 Wilfried Mestdagh > Hi, > > No I started the bat.exe in the new location by direct clicking on the > executable. > > what I did was first export registry HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The > bat!, made a copy of it, changed all path values to the new path, then > import again. Are you saying this is the correct way to do? > > rgds, Wilfried > > 2010/10/24 MFPA > > Hi >> >> >> On Sunday 24 October 2010 at 9:51:12 AM, in >> >> >, >> Wilfried Mestdagh wrote: >> >> >> > Hi, >> >> > I have the bat version 2.12.00 installed on a Vista 64 >> > bit machine and want to move it to another folder. I >> > have already tryed to do and change all the registry >> > values where a folder name was in to the new folder >> > name, but after the move The Bat fails to start. >> >> Is the shortcut you are trying to start it from still pointing to the >> old location? >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards >> >> MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com >> >> Volvo, Video, Velcro. (I came, I saw, I stuck around.) >> >> Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 >> >> >> >> Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: >> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html >> > > > > -- > mvg, Wilfried > http://www.mestdagh.biz > -- mvg, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: moving the bat to other folder
Hi, No I started the bat.exe in the new location by direct clicking on the executable. what I did was first export registry HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The bat!, made a copy of it, changed all path values to the new path, then import again. Are you saying this is the correct way to do? rgds, Wilfried 2010/10/24 MFPA > Hi > > > On Sunday 24 October 2010 at 9:51:12 AM, in > > >, > Wilfried Mestdagh wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > I have the bat version 2.12.00 installed on a Vista 64 > > bit machine and want to move it to another folder. I > > have already tryed to do and change all the registry > > values where a folder name was in to the new folder > > name, but after the move The Bat fails to start. > > Is the shortcut you are trying to start it from still pointing to the > old location? > > > > -- > Best regards > > MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com > > Volvo, Video, Velcro. (I came, I saw, I stuck around.) > > Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 > > > > Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: > http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html > -- mvg, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
moving the bat to other folder
Hi, I have the bat version 2.12.00 installed on a Vista 64 bit machine and want to move it to another folder. I have already tryed to do and change all the registry values where a folder name was in to the new folder name, but after the move The Bat fails to start. So it is clear I have forgot something. Can someone help or give advice? -- mvg, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: someone use v2 on NT4?
Hello Mark, MW> You might think about updating your OS. Windows NT4 support is being MW> phased out by Microsoft, and as of 1 January 2005 you won't even be MW> able to get online fixes or support.NT4 is no longer available for MW> sale through any Microsoft channel. But in most companies they will not upgrade there machines until it is absolutely nececery. Many copanies even dont upgraded patches or service packs. Wy should they? It only cost time and money... Meaning that NT will be still alive for a long time... -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: someone use v2 on NT4?
Hello Wilfried, WM> Is someone here using version 2 of TB on windows NT4 SP6a ? So I think I can make already conclusion :( If I develop a new software is is tested on all stable OS. I assume I have to downgrade and wait until TB is testet in NT ? if they ever wants to do.. The sorry thing is that I have payed for the upgrade :( -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
someone use v2 on NT4?
Hello, Is someone here using version 2 of TB on windows NT4 SP6a ? I ask because I checked many messages here listing their OS, and see nobody with NT, and I'm still having that AV with v2. -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter for Outbox move to other outbox for MyGate
Hello, I use MyGate for News. Works as a glance. But however if I wants to forward a message to a normal email account the thing cannot sent. Can I setup a rule that in that case t is moved to the outbox of my normal account ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello Lourdes, LJ> I would backup, uninstall, delete the registry keys and then reinstall LJ> (do not restore yet), test to see if things are working (no AV LJ> entering properties), then restore and test again. I did it in that sequence, and the first time in run after the installtion I got already the AV (before the restore). -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello, Some question just came up. After the fresh install TB it was not an unregistered version. does this means that the registry was NOT cleaned with the uninstall ?? (so another bug ?) If this is true then I should again try again ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello Alexander, A> If I were you, I'd rather make a backup with the internal backup utility, A> completely remove TB, and then do a fresh re-install, restoring the backup. Made a backup copy, uninstalled the bat completely including registry key's, removed folder and did fresh install of v2. On the first run it startet with the AV, but could go on. After restoring all my folders all is working again, but I still have the same problem. Am I the only one with Thebat v2 on winNT ? Of course I can start v1.62 if I wants to do something in my account properties, but that seems not a good workaround :( And also what happens if the 30 day evaluate period is expired for the old version. Will it stop working ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello Mark, MW> While we're on the subject, how about Folder | Maintenance | Check MW> Integrity/Repair? That's cleared up some stuff for me before. tryed it. All folders: 'nothing to do'. I think I will try with a fresh installation when I have a moment of time -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello Alexander, A> If I were you, I'd rather make a backup with the internal backup utility, A> completely remove TB, and then do a fresh re-install, restoring the backup. while I agree completely with your advice there is something to concider: suppose (probably) it works then, nobody will ever know what the problem was. i'm a developer myself and I should hate this :( I like to get down to problems and know the reason... Tomorrow or some while later someone else has also an AV The sorry thing is that the TECH and BETA lists is not very helpfull. I had expect at least a developer is once a while looking at it But the talk in those lists is more in anti virus and other silly things... not mutch tech there :( I wants to know that the help in this list is great ! -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello Alexander, A> If I were you, I'd rather make a backup with the internal backup utility, A> completely remove TB, and then do a fresh re-install, restoring the backup. Ok thanks. It is a pretty that I dont know exact meaning and content of some files. I see there is data and index and configuration files, but dont know what to delete and when it is safe. should be more easy :) I will try tomorrow and let you know. thanks for all advice of course. -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello, We not get result :( Is there files I can safely delete ? i could start with that ! If that does not help, I could install a second the bat on this machine, see if it works normal, then start copying the mail folders one by one (without conficuration files).. then start copying configuration files. seems a good method to me.. not ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello Alexander, A> Since purge+compress has proven now and then to be a cure for many A> problems, have you tried that? (purge+compress all folders, I mean). Just tryed it, but in most folders it say 'nothing to do' as I have setup all my folders to cleanup on exit. Result is still same... -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello Mark, MW> remember NT 4.0 very well, but maybe it's worth trying to restore this MW> file from the CAB files? I did but is same result. MW> Also, regarding the beta version you installed... was that a version 2 MW> or 1.6x? It was a 1.6x beta. And then I recall the first AV started (the one I did not mind, because pressing escape I could go on). But this is interesting: I have kept my original 1.62 version (renamed it to keep it). When I run it, I have the first AV. This means that something is went wrong, where version 1.62 did a non fatal AV, and version 2. do a second fatal AV. Could it be the amount of mail I have ? My The bat folder is 200 MB. Maybe not ever tested with great amount of mail ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: v2 compatible with older version?
Hello Roelof, RO> I switched several times between the 2.00 betas and 1.62r and that RO> caused me no problems. The only difference is that 2.00 uses a Thanks all for the help. I can confirm the old *.exe runs just fine, and new maded folders are not seen just like that, but that was not importand for the test. As for the AV I will reply to the right thread. -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: v2 compatible with older version?
Hello MAU, M> That is exactly the reason I am still on 1.62i and will not upgrade for M> some time :) I was so stupid g -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: v2 compatible with older version?
Hello Thomas, TF> No guarantees. Hmm the phrase I dont wanted to hear :) I can make copy of course of folders. What about registry ? Can there be messed up something ? I need it for my work, so I cannot effort giving myself hours of problems :) -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello, I have not mutch luck on the 2 other mailing list. The tech seems dead, the beta is only some talk around anti virus and so :( so I try here. I will try to explain clear, but my english is not so well :( After upgrading to v2, I have AV when I hit account -> properties. In fact I have 2 after each other. the first is: AV in NTDll.dll, read of address 18 the secend: AV in TheBat.exe, read of address 0 After both access violations my cursor is hourglass and stay that way until I click on a folder in one of the accounts. TheBat is working normal, but I cannot get into the accoutn properties. I have to say, that one of the AV's started when I downloaded a beta version on advice of someone. It was the first (AV in NtDll.dll) but I dont know the exception message anymore. I did not find this a problem because: - it was a beta version - hitting and I had the properties :) I already search the registry in the RIT key's to see if I see something strange. The only strange I found was in RIT/The Bat!/Users Depot/ a key called: user1, user2, user3, user4 where user2 and 3 are the same, and user4 is an account that I have deleted a while ago. Can I delete these keys ? Of course I checked also the configuration files in the 'the bat' folder, but unfortionaly it is binary files, no information on it, so not mutch I can check. Oh yes: I dont know if that was after or before the AV problem but I made some experiment with mailing list and so. Deleted the folders in the bat, and then of course also from the HDD. But I do not see these folders in registry and so, so I think nothing to do about that. for the rest thebat is working fine. it is only the acount properties :( any advice is welcome ! -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6a Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
v2 compatible with older version?
Hello, Is v2 compatible with older version v1.62 ? I think I saw messages about changes, so I'm not sure. The main reason I ask, is that I have AV problems with v2, and I maybe can try the old EXE (I renamed it to keep it). But if there are compatibility issues then maybe I just better dont try that :) -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: some threads not sorted as threads
Hello Vishal, V> That doesn't seem right. I've often deleted the root message only to see many V> properly threaded replies the next day. It's only since I installed v2 that this V> is happening. Whell I never had it before eather. On some mailing list I only keep messages for 1 day. I upgraded to v2 few days ago and just now I see that. Could be coincidence ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: something wrong with thebat tech mailing list?
Hello Marck, MDP> That question in particular is probably better suited to TBBETA. (he MDP> said, cryptically). Thx, will try there first. -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: some threads not sorted as threads
Hello Roelof, RO> Only reason I can imagine it isn't threaded at your place is that you're RO> purging your messages too soon. Yes thanks for clarify. That is the reason. It is a lot of reply on messages all deleted here. It's the first time I saw this and was wondering wy without running my brain :( -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: something wrong with thebat tech mailing list?
Hello Marck, MDP> It's working just fine. I saw your posts there. It's just a low MDP> traffic list. Thank you. Do you think I should repost it here ? I hade the impression this list was more for _use_ problems, the other one more for _tech_ problems. If that's right, then I should not repost here of course. -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
some threads not sorted as threads
Hello, Can someone tell me wy the thread: "Re[3]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?" is not sorted as thread ? I see only 1 reference every time and the Re[x] is always incremented. I saw same fenomene in other mailing lists also with persons using The bat. -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
something wrong with thebat tech mailing list?
Hello, Is there something wrong with [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list ? I have no traffic there, posted a few days a question on it, and got no answer, but no other traffic as well ? Also I heard of some colleguas they get regulary unsubscribed over there ? Can someone clarify ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filtering after a first filter dont work
Hello, Ok, I get it working, but I'm not sure I did it the right way. First of all, completely automaticle seems not working. I probably so something wrong or dont use right method. Any advice is welkome of course. I have now: in my "normal account" (the one that read the pop3 server) ar rule to put messages with a certain 'recipient' field into the inbox of the new account. In the new account I have made a subscribe / unsubscribe rule in the 'read messages'. So I have to read the messages (then they are marked as read), and then the whole thing starts (add / remove address book, autoreply). -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering after a first filter dont work
Hello, WM> what I do is when a mail arrives with [EMAIL PROTECTED] then the some_name WM> is filtered to the inbox of the new account. There the other filter should WM> start (I was thinking so, but it is not). Is seems that if I set 'mark message as read', and I put the subscribe / unsubscribe filter in 'read messages' then it seems to work automaticly. Is that the right way to do ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filtering after a first filter dont work
Hello, I have setup a announce mailing list with TB, with a subscribe / unsubscribe filter. For that I created a separate account but did not specify a pop3 server, because the mail for it is received in my first account. what I do is when a mail arrives with [EMAIL PROTECTED] then the some_name is filtered to the inbox of the new account. There the other filter should start (I was thinking so, but it is not). When I click right and choose re-filter on the inbox on the new account all is working well, but it does not happen automaticly. What did I miss for that ? I tryed checking "continue processing with other filters" in the first filter, but that does not help. -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble managing threads
Hello Steve, To delete a complete thread: shift + ctrl + del To delete acomplete folder: ctrl + del -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: reply as a new thread
Hello Sergey, SK> Have you tried removing the "Follow-Up" content in the message editor? Euh I cannot find 'follow-up'. Do you mean in the message editor when hitting reply ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ly as a new thread
Hello Jonathan, JA> it's a beta, use at your own risk ;) Whell I'm software developper myself. Each beta is improvement where old bugs are solved, new bugs are introduced, as it it for every official realeas :) But still thanks for warning me ;-) -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: reply as a new thread
Hello Bill, BM> With the 1.63 Beta, here's another method: I only can find 1.62r to download. Where can I find the beta version ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
reply as a new thread
Hello, What is the best / most conveniant way to reply to a message ..but.. start a new thread ? For example in many mailing list many people just hit reply to start a new thread. I want for example answer to sutch mail with same subject and with quotes, but at the same time start a new thread. -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB language written
Hello Michael, MT> Delphi. (You can just Tell) Aaah, thats wy I feel so confortable with it :) What about the TCP things ? Native API call's, some other components ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB language written
Hello, In what language is TB written ? Just curious.. -- Rgds, Wilfried mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! Hanging on 2nd/3rd E-mail?
Hello Jonathan, JA> %MAILDIR\%AccountName\account.log Doh.. I did not looked into the mailfolder itself :( JA> Though it doesn't log what you think it does... You right, but still it can maybe help Patricia and Barry. I assume it logs (winsock) errors (if there are). Does it not ? I assume that the problem they have is a large packet loss, and TB is waiting because it is downloading. But isnt there a timeout set somewhere ? If so is it parameterisable ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: The Bat! Hanging on 2nd/3rd E-mail?
Hello Barry, BH> Generally for me, TB tends to stall on mails that have either a BH> large attachment (quite common for me) or have HTML included. I receive many mail with large attachment w/o problems. However it could be timeouts you have due to heavy internet traffic. Difficult to say. in properties I see a max logfile size setting. I assume TB logs the TCP traffic. However I dont see a file with a name looking like a log file. maybe someone else can bring light on this. -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A long shot ...
Hello Stuart, SH> Is there a way of viewing the SMTP conversation between TB! and my SH> SMTP server You can download SocketSpy from my site. It is not a packet sniffer, but a kind of proxy that display the traffic going trough it. It is freeware, and if you wants the source just tell me. -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: where in the headers comes %OFromFName from ?
Hello Bill, BM> Hmm, I didn't know it had a "comma rule." for your information, I just heard that in US it is a habitude to sign "lastname, firstname" or "firstname lastname" (so firstname first _or_ a comma). That should explain the comma rule ! thanks anyway all for all help ! -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: where in the headers comes %OFromFName from ?
Hello Bill, BM> Hmm, I didn't know it had a "comma rule." I see it's specialized. It BM> appears to take the first name after the last comma. Thanks all for reply. It seems TB has lots of possibilities. However it should be nice to know wy and how the comma rule is there. There should be a reason I think ? What about other mail readers ? How do they manage a 'hello NAME,' ? As far as I know there is no RFC for that, and I can advice some people that I know to change their name, but I have to tell them it is wrong. But is it wrong ? It means if I change my name to: "Wilfried Mestdagh, Sonal nv" and you hit repy you get "Hello Sonal" instead of "Hello Wilfried"... hmm... I dont wants to say that TB is wrong somewhere, I just wants to have some clarification ;-) -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: where in the headers comes %OFromFName from ?
Hello Bill, BM> It takes the name to the first space, if any. If there's no name, it BM> takes what's before the @ to the first '.', if any. I have this: "Hello %OFromFName," When I hit replay to someone with this header: From: "Firstname Lastname, Company nv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Then in the reply is: Hello Company, instead of: Hello Firstname, should I take another macro, or should I warn that in fact his account is not correctly filled in, but what doe he have to change ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
where in the headers comes %OFromFName from ?
Hello, I have in 'reply template' something like this: "hello %OFromFName,". This seems to work most of the time, but sometime I see wierd result. Official there is no "first name" in the mail header, so where assume TB that some thing in the header is the first name, and witch thing is it ??? thanks ! -- Rgds, Wilfried mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mestdagh.biz Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: keep attach in separate folder
Hello Bill, BM> Hmm, did you Browse to make sure the directory is properly set? I use BM> this option (not on a lan) and it works fine. yes I did, but i tryed again now to set this setting, and restarted TB. Now it works properly. this setting is probably only checked at startup (or maybe I did something wrong). It seems I can manipulate including delete these files without TB complains. Very good !!! -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
tbb and tbi files - housekeeping
Hello, I see in the mail folder, that all mails are saved in a *.tbb file and there is also for each one a *.tbi file witch I assume it is an index file. Do I have to backup the index files also, or are they automaticly recreated if missing ? I also assume that deleted files are marked as such in the index file, but I put compact folders on exit on. thanks ! -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
keep attach in separate folder
Hello, I found the setting 'keep attachment files separated in special directory' and thougt it was an interesting feature, since mosts of my mail is with attach files, and most of the time I need the files on another machine. So a shortcut to a folder over the lan seemed interesting for me. I tryed to send a mail with attach to myself, but I does not save anything there. Or do I have misundersteand this setting ? thanks ! -- Rgds, Wilfried mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mestdagh.biz Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: displaying only unread / all per folder
Hello Daniel, thanks for your answer, but I think I did not do my question very well (my english is not so good ;-) I try again with some example: in my inbox I wants to view all messages read and unread, because it is there because I have to do something with it, otherwise I move them. in a mailing list folder (where messages are filtered to) I only wants to view unread messages / threads. for example I have folder 'the bat'. if I do View -> Display - > Only unread messages, then it works, but unfortionaly this setting is then for _all_ my folders wich I dont want. I hope I make more sence now ;-) -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
displaying only unread / all per folder
Hello, I'm a new user of TB. it seems wonderfull program but what I miss (or probably cannot find) is the display of messages per folder. For example I want to display all messages wich resides in my inbox. But folders where I track eg mailing list, there I want to hide read messages. Of course when someone reply to a thread then the thread should be visible again. I tryed these settings but it seems TB does so for all folders. Do I miss something ?? thanks ! -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
