Re: An overview of the file structure please
Hello TBUDL On Tuesday, June 22, 2004 at 9:50:06 AM, clairvoyants were mystified when TBUDL [JR] conjured: RO As I just did a fresh install, I respectfully have to disagree with RO you. I thought it went kind of easy. JR Are you sure that's due to your familiarity with the program? I just did one a few days ago and I have only been using The Bat! a little over 30 days and it went very fast and easy for me. -- Until we do this again Jimmie From C:\*.* to shining C:\*.* Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: An overview of the file structure please
Hallo Jan, On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 21:40:45 -0400GMT (20-6-2004, 3:40 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JR In either case, it is my opinion that TB! installation is a JR PITA shouldn't be @ this stage of its development. As I just did a fresh install, I respectfully have to disagree with you. I thought it went kind of easy. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: An overview of the file structure please
Hi Roelof, At 4:25 PM on Sunday, June 20, 2004 Roelof Otten RO wrote the following in regards to An overview of the file structure please: JR In either case, it is my opinion that TB! installation is a JR PITA shouldn't be @ this stage of its development. RO As I just did a fresh install, I respectfully have to disagree with RO you. I thought it went kind of easy. Are you sure that's due to your familiarity with the program? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12 Beta/1/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: An overview of the file structure please
OK the consnesus so far is that I can copy the entire MAIL directory from one machine to another. But there is also a suggestion that a egistry key has to be copied too. Which registry key and, as a mater of interest/understadning why? What does this registry key(s) represent ion realtion to the contents of the MAIL directory and its many subdirectories? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 2.11.02 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: An overview of the file structure please
Hallo admin, On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 13:44:41 +0100GMT (19-6-2004, 14:44 +0200, where I live), you wrote: A OK the consnesus so far is that I can copy the entire MAIL directory A from one machine to another. That's what I did. A But there is also a suggestion that a egistry key has to be copied A too. That´s possible too. I didn´t do that, but that´s a personal decision. A Which registry key and, HKey_Current_User/Software/RIT/The Bat! (Actually that's not a key, but all of them) A as a mater of interest/understadning why? What does this registry A key(s) represent ion realtion to the contents of the MAIL directory A and its many subdirectories? It tells TB the names of the accounts, where to find them. It stores the registration key, the sizes of the different screens ans where to place them on your desktop. It stores everything you can edit at: Options - Preferences - . When you're not very familiar with TB, you might consider it easier to duplicate all of the settings you found with sweat and tears. When you're an old hand at TB, you might consider to start with the defaults, just to reconsider the settings you were working with. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: An overview of the file structure please
Hi Roelof, At 6:46 PM on Saturday, June 19, 2004 Roelof Otten RO wrote the following in regards to An overview of the file structure please: RO snip It tells TB the names of the accounts, where to find them. RO It stores the registration key, the sizes of the different screens RO ans RO where to place them on your desktop. RO It stores everything you can edit at: RO Options - Preferences - . RO When you're not very familiar with TB, you might consider it RO easier to RO duplicate all of the settings you found with sweat and tears. RO When you're an old hand at TB, you might consider to start with the RO defaults, just to reconsider the settings you were working RO with. /snip In either case, it is my opinion that TB! installation is a PITA shouldn't be @ this stage of its development. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12 Beta/1/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: An overview of the file structure please
Hello Roelof, On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:46:27 +0200 GMT (20/06/2004, 05:46 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: A But there is also a suggestion that a egistry key has to be copied A too. RO That´s possible too. I didn´t do that, but that´s a personal decision. I would certainly recommend it. That's my backup: the reg key plus the whole mail directory, all zipped. A as a mater of interest/understadning why? What does this registry A key(s) represent ion realtion to the contents of the MAIL directory A and its many subdirectories? RO It tells TB the names of the accounts, where to find them. RO It stores the registration key, the sizes of the different screens ans RO where to place them on your desktop. RO It stores everything you can edit at: [...] You have given enough reason to backup/copy the registry key, saving me the typing. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Why is it that most nudists are people you don't want to see naked? Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
An overview of the file structure please
I am getting very frustrated with the various methods of 'synchronising' The Bat betwen two machines. A - The synchronise tool is not really synchrinise; it's actually add this lot onto what wa there before. I.e: if I have deleted an email from machine 2 then syncrinise back again the copy on machine 1 remains and everything gets too confusing for words. B - I tried the seting up of Machine 1 to send BCC of all outgoing mails, not delete them from the server and then Machine 2 collects them and complicatedly filters them to the Sent folder. All's well until one accidentally synchroinises account settings - all the careful setting up is chucked out. C - Neither of these would be a huge problem with one or even two email accounts but with 42 - it's an impossibility unles I empliyed someone full-timeto manage it !! ;-)) D - An automatic file-copy synchronise application I run a thte end of each day te ensure that work I've done on the desk-top is always duplicated on to the Laptop will not work with The Bat becasue the Laptop has decided to make the MAIL directory Read-Only and I cannot get it to be otherwise (a known issue with XP Pro apparently - and all Internet sourced cures are to no avail). SO My plan is simply to delete the entire contents of the MAIL directory on the Laptop and copy the entire contents of the Desktop mail directory in its place. Wallop - just like that. Anything I should know before I do that? Are there any other files that keep a record of the number of emails or some obscure settings related to the MAIL directory hidden away elsewhere that will then conflict with a new MAIL directory suddenly appearing? OF COURSE - if the system suggested to be able to selectively chasnge account settings using a global tick box system were implemented the whole panjandrujm would be much easier especially re option B above. But then no one that matters seems to understand how stonkingly useful that would be. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 2.11.02 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: An overview of the file structure please
Hello admin, Friday, June 18, 2004, 6:41:17 PM, you wrote: aacu I am getting very frustrated with the various methods of aacu 'synchronising' The Bat betwen two machines. aacu B - I tried the seting up of Machine 1 to send BCC of all outgoing aacu mails, not delete them from the server and then Machine 2 collects aacu them and complicatedly filters them to the Sent folder. Maybe you want to explain what was the issue you are referring to for B. You are saying mails are 'complicatedly filtered'. But what is the issue you are posing here does not seem clear to me. Someone else will need to address A. aacu All's well until one accidentally synchroinises account settings - all aacu the careful setting up is chucked out. These are like settings, like your mail address, and your mail server name, and such? aacu C - Neither of these would be a huge problem with one or even two aacu email accounts but with 42 - it's an impossibility unles I empliyed aacu someone full-timeto manage it !! ;-)) aacu D - An automatic file-copy synchronise application I run a thte end of aacu each day te ensure that work I've done on the desk-top is always aacu duplicated on to the Laptop will not work with The Bat becasue the aacu Laptop has decided to make the MAIL directory Read-Only and I cannot aacu get it to be otherwise (a known issue with XP Pro apparently - and all aacu Internet sourced cures are to no avail). I never heard of that. I don't really use XP much. But, I was able to check your observation. And it appears to be true, on XP, I noticed that the root TB mail folder is set as Read-only. As well as most other folders beneath it. But, if you are just copying files, how is there a problem? aacu SO aacu My plan is simply to delete the entire contents of the MAIL directory aacu on the Laptop and copy the entire contents of the Desktop mail aacu directory in its place. Wallop - just like that. Sure thing. Go to it. :-) What are the plans here? aacu Anything I should know before I do that? Are there any other files aacu that keep a record of the number of emails or some obscure settings aacu related to the MAIL directory hidden away elsewhere that will then aacu conflict with a new MAIL directory suddenly appearing? I think the directory is completely replaceable. You just need to transfer the registry key also. What operating systems are the two machines using? aacu OF COURSE - if the system suggested to be able to selectively chasnge aacu account settings using a global tick box system were implemented the aacu whole panjandrujm would be much easier especially re option B above. This second word is probably not an English word I'm guessing. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: An overview of the file structure please
Hello admin, On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 22:11:17 +0100 GMT (19/06/2004, 04:11 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aacu C - Neither of these would be a huge problem with one or even two aacu email accounts but with 42 - it's an impossibility unles I empliyed aacu someone full-timeto manage it !! ;-)) 42 accounts! I think this is where IMAP comes in. You wouldn't need to synchronise, as the messages bases would be on the server. Is that feasible? aacu My plan is simply to delete the entire contents of the MAIL directory aacu on the Laptop and copy the entire contents of the Desktop mail aacu directory in its place. Wallop - just like that. aacu Anything I should know before I do that? If the desktop has always the updated mailbase, that should be OK. However, if you deleted something on the Laptop but not on the Desktop, it will reappear on the Laptop. Same siutation as with the synchronisation feature, but you'll have a problem if you changed the folder structure. aacu Are there any other files that keep a record of the number of aacu emails or some obscure settings related to the MAIL directory aacu hidden away elsewhere that will then conflict with a new MAIL aacu directory suddenly appearing? I believe everything in TB is mail-related. There was a thread recently explaining the functions of the different account.* files, for example. aacu OF COURSE - if the system suggested to be able to selectively chasnge aacu account settings using a global tick box system were implemented the aacu whole panjandrujm would be much easier especially re option B above. aacu But then no one that matters seems to understand how stonkingly useful aacu that would be. Not that I matter, but I don't even understand what you mean. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Nach polizeilichen Feststellung stand der Traktor unter Alkoholeinflus. Eine Blutprobe wurde angeordnet. * Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
