Re: AOL From: and Date: anomalies.
Hello Daniel, On Friday, February 21, 2003, 09:25:00 -0500 GMT (which was 15:25 local time), Daniel Grunberg wrote: DG 1. Our AOL using memberts' messages are time tagged with the DG abbreviation for their time zone, rather than with their time DG zone's offset from UTC (which I thought was the standard way of DG doing things). For example: DG Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:09:13 EST DGrather than the hoped for DG Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:09:13 -0500 or DG Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:09:13 -0500 (EST) Yes. I can confirm this. DG 2. My AOL-using correspondents' messages do not have their names on DG the From: line, e.g. John Doe [EMAIL PROTECTED], but seem instead to DG have only [EMAIL PROTECTED] on the From: line. Well, while I can conmfirm this, too, this seems to be alright. It may very well be that this annoys you but AFAIK it is sufficent to only have the email address in the from header. I could do this with the bat, too. I don't really know if that is by choice of the user or just the default setup of the aol mailer or if the mailer doesn't support the additional name.. I'm sorry but I'm afraid I can't help you with any URLs.. -- Cheers, Andre Ein Kuß ist Mund-zu-Mund-Beatmung ohne medizinischen Anlaß. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AOL From: and Date: anomalies.
Sat, 22 Feb 2003 15:59:23 [GMT +0100] (9:59 AM EST here) Andre Wichartz wrote: On Friday, February 21, 2003, 09:25:00 -0500 GMT (which was 15:25 local time), Daniel Grunberg wrote: DG 1. Our AOL using memberts' messages are time tagged with the DG abbreviation for their time zone, rather than with their time DG zone's offset from UTC (which I thought was the standard way of DG doing things). For example: DG Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:09:13 EST DGrather than the hoped for DG Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:09:13 -0500 or DG Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:09:13 -0500 (EST) Yes. I can confirm this. DG 2. My AOL-using correspondents' messages do not have their names on DG the From: line, e.g. John Doe [EMAIL PROTECTED], but seem instead to DG have only [EMAIL PROTECTED] on the From: line. Well, while I can conmfirm this, too, this seems to be alright. It may very well be that this annoys you but AFAIK it is sufficent to only have the email address in the from header. That's true, but I'm trying to generate automatically a compilation of replies by name (and not by email address). Toward that end, I can use a template to capture the reply's original-from name, but the name has to be there to begin with. What I'm trying to find out is whether an AOL user can opt to include his name, and, if so, how he can do it. I could do this with the bat, too. I don't really know if that is by choice of the user or just the default setup of the aol mailer or if the mailer doesn't support the additional name. I'm sorry but I'm afraid I can't help you with any URLs.. Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 95 4.0 Build a -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AOL From: and Date: anomalies.
Hallo Daniel, On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:56:14 -0500GMT (22-2-03, 17:56 +0100, where I live), you wrote: DG That's true, but I'm trying to generate automatically a DG compilation of replies by name (and not by email address). Toward DG that end, I can use a template to capture the reply's DG original-from name, but the name has to be there to begin with. Well, you can collect them in your address book. That should be easy, since need to send them mail too. Now you can use the macro %AbFromName instead of the %OFromName, because the %AbFromName macro pulls the name from the address book. (provided that you've entered it) -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AOL From: and Date: anomalies.
Sat, 22 Feb 2003 19:11:58 [GMT +0100] (1:11 PM EST here) Roelof Otten wrote: Hallo Daniel, On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:56:14 -0500GMT (22-2-03, 17:56 +0100, where I live), you wrote: DG That's true, but I'm trying to generate automatically a DG compilation of replies by name (and not by email address). Toward DG that end, I can use a template to capture the reply's DG original-from name, but the name has to be there to begin with. Well, you can collect them in your address book. That should be easy, since need to send them mail too. Now you can use the macro %AbFromName instead of the %OFromName, because the %AbFromName macro pulls the name from the address book. (provided that you've entered it) Thank you Roelof. I'll try that on this weeks mailing. Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 95 4.0 Build a -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AOL From: and Date: anomalies.
Dear Daniel, On 15:25 21.02.2003, you [Daniel Grunberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED])] wrote... Does anyone know if the problem is with AOL, or with the AOL users? These problems arise because AOL internally uses a non-Internet mail system. Messages send from AOL to AOL never have headers or so. Messages from AOL to the Internet get passed to a gateway, that feeds in necessary headers for the message being transported on internet MTAs. Can someone give me a URL for AOL's e-mail setup instructions, or possibly send me a copy of AOL's e-mail setup document? Sorry, I fear you won't be able to change AOLs internet mail gateways ;) Cheers, Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you only have a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AOL From: and Date: anomalies.
Our chamber music society has a lot of AOL users. I've noticed that e-mails from (all?) the AOL users who e-mail me seem to have the following in common: 1. Our AOL using memberts' messages are time tagged with the abbreviation for their time zone, rather than with their time zone's offset from UTC (which I thought was the standard way of doing things). For example: Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:09:13 EST rather than the hoped for Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:09:13 -0500 or Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:09:13 -0500 (EST) 2. My AOL-using correspondents' messages do not have their names on the From: line, e.g. John Doe [EMAIL PROTECTED], but seem instead to have only [EMAIL PROTECTED] on the From: line. These AOL anomalies cause hiccups in the automatic processing of replies to our meeting reminder e-mail. My first thought is to try to educate the AOL using members. Does anyone know if the problem is with AOL, or with the AOL users? Can someone give me a URL for AOL's e-mail setup instructions, or possibly send me a copy of AOL's e-mail setup document? Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 95 4.0 Build a -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
