Re[2]: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-12 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Roelof,

Saturday, February 11, 2006, 5:28:21 PM, you wrote:

RO Hallo Jack,

RO When you install AVG after you've installed TB, AVG will recognize TB
RO and install the plug-in in AVG's program directory and it will
RO configure TB to look for the plug-in:
RO C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG7\avgbat.bat
RO You can check that in:
RO   Options - Preferences - Anti Virus
RO

When I look at Options - Preferences - Anti Virus I see in the box
called 'Virus Checking Plug-ins' the line AVG Plug-in for The Bat!

Does this mean that it's already installed and working to check all
incoming and outgoing mail?

My sincerest appreciation for your patience with my ignorance.

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Re[2]: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-12 Thread Jos Klaassens
Hello Roelof,

Wednesday, February 8, 2006, 2:38:17 PM, you wrote:

RO That shouldn't have anything to do with AVG, I've been using that for
RO ages and I don't notice any connection failures.

Same here g, never.

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Re: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-12 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jack,

On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 07:29:10 -0600GMT (12-2-2006, 14:29 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

JSL When I look at Options - Preferences - Anti Virus I see in the box
JSL called 'Virus Checking Plug-ins' the line AVG Plug-in for The Bat!

Ain't computers smart?

JSL Does this mean that it's already installed and working to check all
JSL incoming and outgoing mail?

Yes.

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Re[2]: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-12 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Roelof,

Sunday, February 12, 2006, 1:02:28 PM, you wrote:

RO Hallo Jack,

RO On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 07:29:10 -0600GMT (12-2-2006, 14:29 +0100, where I
RO live), you wrote:

JSL When I look at Options - Preferences - Anti Virus I see in the box
JSL called 'Virus Checking Plug-ins' the line AVG Plug-in for The Bat!

RO Ain't computers smart?

JSL Does this mean that it's already installed and working to check all
JSL incoming and outgoing mail?

RO Yes.

Thanks for your help Roelof.

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Re: Aletrnatives to AVG? (The Janitor) [TBUDL Digest, Vol 207, Issue 12]

2006-02-11 Thread Stephen Love



On 09 February 2006 - 06:46, William, on the matter of AVG, said

Hello MFPA,


SNIP


I've  used  NOD  for  about  five years, never been infected (I know I
shouldn't  say  things like that), never had an FP. There's no need to
quarantine   -  NOD  will  send  samples  to  ESET  automatically,  if
necessary. IMO, *no* email is so important that it can't be deleted as
soon as NOD detects it, long before it gets anywhere near the MUA.
Good  as  it is, TB! has always been flaky; its developers have enough
to do without having to maintain yet more code.

-

'Good  as  it is, TB! has always been flaky'

Indeed.  TB is very powerful and flexible, but, as you, say, a tad flaky  
at times.


As intimated in earlier posts, I am having trouble getting TB's IMAP to  
work just right... (Message bodies not downloaded on sync but they DO  
download when a message is selected)


Its OK ...but Outlook Express, Thunderbird and Opera M2 do it (IMAP)  
better for me on this score...


A bug...or lack of transparency in IMAP set-up.  'The transparency' bit of  
course could include the operator not seeing the obvious...  ;-)


But, I still play with The Bat :-)

PS   I have found both AVG and avast! work OK with TB...but I don't use  
the plug-in...


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Re[4]: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-11 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Neal,

Wednesday, February 8, 2006, 10:36:14 PM, you wrote:

NL Hey Jack,

 I use AVG also and have never had any trouble with it. No viruses have
 infected my machine (AFAIK) but, AVG has never told me it intercepted
 a virus. Which makes me wonder... Anybody know a way to test the
 functionality of whatever AV is being used?

NL The only time I see it come to life is updating itself and then if
NL something bad opens up in the OS. When it detects naughtiness it
NL will pop up a very ugly ogre (or troll) and tell you something's
NL amiss. But when using the AVG plugin for TB! it will just send it to
NL the Quarantine folder, where they will happily sit until you delete
NL them. Usually I don't have TB! mark them as READ so I can have some
NL feedback when something's detected.

Forgive me for taking the lazy man's way of getting this info but what
is the AVG plugin for TB! I downloaded AVG from their website and
installed it on my machine. It seems to be running as I occasionally
see the AVG update box letting me know it's updating it's virus
library. Your statement regarding a plugin for TB! implies I should
have done something from within TB! to make fuller use of AVG. Should
I have? and if so, what?

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Re: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-11 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jack,

On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 10:25:37 -0600GMT (11-2-2006, 17:25 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

JSL library. Your statement regarding a plugin for TB! implies I should
JSL have done something from within TB! to make fuller use of AVG. Should
JSL I have? and if so, what?

When you install AVG after you've installed TB, AVG will recognize TB
and install the plug-in in AVG's program directory and it will
configure TB to look for the plug-in:
C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG7\avgbat.bat
You can check that in:
  Options - Preferences - Anti Virus
  

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Re: Re[2]: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-10 Thread Cory
On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 21:47:00 -0600, Jack S. LaRosa
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anybody know a way to test the
functionality of whatever AV is being used?

Get yourself some free mailbox somewhere (or a new alias to your
existing mailbox), and start posting messages in high-traffic
newsgroups (alt.bin.*?). Guaranteed, I'm told...


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Re[4]: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-10 Thread rich gregory
Anybody know a way to test the
functionality of whatever AV is being used?


There are TEST virus files from EICAR.

See:
http://www.eicar.org/

The files themselves are at:
http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

IIRC there are .COM, .EXE, .ZIP versions and maybe more. Try to email
them to yourself.

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Re: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-10 Thread Maurice McAdam
Hello Jack,

 On Thursday, February 9, 2006, 4:47:00 AM, which was 6:21:37 PM 
where I am, you wrote:

 I've started having numerous connection failures when retrieving mail using
 the AVG plugin for TB so I thought I'd look out for an alternative
 antivirus program.

NL I just set up on a new laptop and had the same problem with AVG. have
NL not investigated much yet, but check to see if the proxy servers are
NL checked and on. This can result in sending failure with TB. AVG always
NL been good to me :)

JSL I use AVG also and have never had any trouble with it. No viruses have
JSL infected my machine (AFAIK) but, AVG has never told me it intercepted
JSL a virus. Which makes me wonder... Anybody know a way to test the
JSL functionality of whatever AV is being used?

http://www.eicar.com/anti_virus_test_file.htm#dl ?

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Re[2]: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-10 Thread The Janitor
09 February 2006 - 06:46

Hello MFPA,

Wednesday, February 8, 2006, 8:51:27 PM, you wrote:

 The plug-in only complicates matters; something else to go
 wrong.

M What extra functionality does the plug-in provide?

Certainly  nothing that I need but YMMV of course. This topic has been
discussed  before  but  as soon as NOD detects the virus, I delete it.
Every time.

I've  used  NOD  for  about  five years, never been infected (I know I
shouldn't  say  things like that), never had an FP. There's no need to
quarantine   -  NOD  will  send  samples  to  ESET  automatically,  if
necessary. IMO, *no* email is so important that it can't be deleted as
soon as NOD detects it, long before it gets anywhere near the MUA.

Good  as  it is, TB! has always been flaky; its developers have enough
to do without having to maintain yet more code.

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Re: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-10 Thread Barry
On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 14:38:17 +0100, Roelof Otten wrote:

 That shouldn't have anything to do with AVG, I've been using that for
 ages and I don't notice any connection failures.
 What happens when you disable AVG, do still have those failures then?

Hi Roelof

I wanted an good alternative to AVG so I could eliminate AVG as the cause
without losing my AV protection. So, no, it hasn't made any difference. I
still suspect my ISP's mail servers, but, of course, when asked everything
is OK at their end so it MUST be either my firewall or my AV program,
mustn't it? ;)

Mind you, I think NOD seems pretty good. All I need now are some viruses
(?) to check its effectiveness!

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Re: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-10 Thread George Mitchell
Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

JSL Which makes me wonder... Anybody know a way to test the
JSL functionality of whatever AV is being used?

There's the eicar  virus test files:

http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

There used to be a web site where you could go to get a variety of
harmless security tests emailed to you to test your email client's
vulnerability, but I don't seem to have the link handy.  Maybe someone
here knows?

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Re: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-10 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello George,

Thursday, February 9, 2006, 5:52:22 PM, you wrote:
 There used to be a web site where you could go to get a variety of
 harmless security tests emailed to you to test your email client's
 vulnerability, but I don't seem to have the link handy. Maybe
 someone here knows?

http://www.gfi.com/emailsecuritytest/

One note. I haven't used them in a while, but to really accurately
gauge the test and your e-mail application response, you need to do
them more or less one at a time.

A few years back I said Send 'em all baby! But was so confused by
which one tried what thing, and whether it succeeded or not. There's a
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Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-08 Thread Barry
Hi all

I've started having numerous connection failures when retrieving mail using
the AVG plugin for TB so I thought I'd look out for an alternative
antivirus program.

Can anyone recommend an alternative other than Norton that works along with
TheBat!?

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Re: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-08 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Barry,

Wednesday, February 8, 2006, 10:15:42 AM, you wrote:

B I've started having numerous connection failures when retrieving mail using
B the AVG plugin for TB so I thought I'd look out for an alternative
B antivirus program.

B Can anyone recommend an alternative other than Norton that works along with
B TheBat!?

I'm not using the plugin but am satisfied with Nod32.

http://www.nod32.com/home/home.htm

same as : http://www.eset.com/home/home.htm

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Re[2]: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-08 Thread The Janitor
08 February 2006 - 13:22

Hello Mark,

Wednesday, February 8, 2006, 9:31:47 AM, you wrote:

MP I'm not using the plugin but am satisfied with Nod32.

Ditto.  Nothing  to  touch  it.  The plug-in only complicates matters;
something else to go wrong.

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Re: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-08 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo BJH,

On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 09:15:42 +GMT (8-2-2006, 10:15 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

B I've started having numerous connection failures when retrieving mail using
B the AVG plugin for TB so I thought I'd look out for an alternative
B antivirus program.

That shouldn't have anything to do with AVG, I've been using that for
ages and I don't notice any connection failures.
What happens when you disable AVG, do still have those failures then?

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Re[2]: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-08 Thread Gerda
Hallo Mark,

woensdag 8 februari 2006, 10:31:47, schreef u:

B Can anyone recommend an alternative other than Norton that works along with
B TheBat!?

 I'm not using the plugin but am satisfied with Nod32.

Where can i find this plugin?

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Re: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-08 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hello Gerda,

 I'm not using the plugin but am satisfied with Nod32.
 Where can i find this plugin?

http://thebat.zetema.de/download.html#antivirus

(45 KB) http://thebat.zetema.de/zip/nod32.rar


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Re: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-08 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Gerda,

['k Dacht even Stelt mijn echtgenote me hier nu een vraag (zelfde voornaam,
maar waarom zou ze dat via mail doen als ze hier gewoon in huis is?)]

Wednesday, February 8, 2006, 5:15:00 PM, you wrote:

G Hallo Mark,

G woensdag 8 februari 2006, 10:31:47, schreef u:

B Can anyone recommend an alternative other than Norton that works along with
B TheBat!?

 I'm not using the plugin but am satisfied with Nod32.

G Where can i find this plugin?

http://thebat.zetema.de/archiv2004_05.html


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Re[2]: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-08 Thread Gerda
Hallo Miroslav,

woensdag 8 februari 2006, 17:41:17, schreef u:

 Hello Gerda,

 I'm not using the plugin but am satisfied with Nod32.
 Where can i find this plugin?

 http://thebat.zetema.de/download.html#antivirus

 (45 KB) http://thebat.zetema.de/zip/nod32.rar



thanks this is what i looked for. :)

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Re: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Mark-

Wednesday, February 8, 2006, 1:31:47 AM, you wrote:

 I'm not using the plugin but am satisfied with Nod32.

Ditto. I'm more than satisfied. I used to run Norton as a backup to
catch anything that made it past nod32, but *nothing* ever did, and I
eventually tossed the Norton garbage and never looked back.

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Re: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-08 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Wednesday 8 February 2006 at 1:24:54 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], The Janitor wrote:

 The plug-in only complicates matters; something else to go
 wrong.

What extra functionality does the plug-in provide?

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Re: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-08 Thread Neal Laugman
Hi Barry,

 I've started having numerous connection failures when retrieving mail using
 the AVG plugin for TB so I thought I'd look out for an alternative
 antivirus program.

I just set up on a new laptop and had the same problem with AVG. have
not investigated much yet, but check to see if the proxy servers are
checked and on. This can result in sending failure with TB. AVG always
been good to me :)

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Re[2]: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-08 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Neal,

Wednesday, February 8, 2006, 4:39:42 PM, you wrote:

NL Hi Barry,

 I've started having numerous connection failures when retrieving mail using
 the AVG plugin for TB so I thought I'd look out for an alternative
 antivirus program.

NL I just set up on a new laptop and had the same problem with AVG. have
NL not investigated much yet, but check to see if the proxy servers are
NL checked and on. This can result in sending failure with TB. AVG always
NL been good to me :)

I use AVG also and have never had any trouble with it. No viruses have
infected my machine (AFAIK) but, AVG has never told me it intercepted
a virus. Which makes me wonder... Anybody know a way to test the
functionality of whatever AV is being used?

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Re[3]: Aletrnatives to AVG?

2006-02-08 Thread Neal Laugman
Hey Jack,

 I use AVG also and have never had any trouble with it. No viruses have
 infected my machine (AFAIK) but, AVG has never told me it intercepted
 a virus. Which makes me wonder... Anybody know a way to test the
 functionality of whatever AV is being used?

The only time I see it come to life is updating itself and then if
something bad opens up in the OS. When it detects naughtiness it
will pop up a very ugly ogre (or troll) and tell you something's
amiss. But when using the AVG plugin for TB! it will just send it to
the Quarantine folder, where they will happily sit until you delete
them. Usually I don't have TB! mark them as READ so I can have some
feedback when something's detected.

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