Re: Automatic backups
Hi On Thursday 29 July 2010 at 6:09:04 PM, in mid:227678615.20100729200...@cytanet.com.cy, Costas Papadopoulos wrote: Please note that I never tried or tested the suggested backup method. I use something very similar, having got the idea from this list but since lost the reference - probably indirectly attributable to the same source. I export the registry key to the program directory and then use 7-zip to create archives of the program directory and the mail directory; the fourth most recent backup is deleted before creating the new one. I don't run the batch file every time I run TB! because creating the backup of my mail directory takes over 30 minutes and massively slows my computer; the program directory backup only takes a few seconds. Than wrinkle aside, this system works very well. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com When you're caffeinated, all is right with the world Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hello, I have kept the following message from Greg Strong for reference. It's dated 23 Mar 2008 and the Message IDis 901242744.20080323115...@4getspam.xxx. Please note that I never tried or tested the suggested backup method. [QUOTE] I use 7-Zip (http://www.7-zip.org/) with a batch file to open TB. After closing TB a call is made to another batch program to backup the program directory, the mail directory, and the registry to a rotating Grandfather, Father, Son backup routine. I think it works great and have been using it for years. Originally from Marck Pearlstone per mid:429920849.20040516222...@spamoff.ss.com with some modifications, if your mail base goes back that far. :) I know others have their favorite. What ever works for you. :) It has never failed me yet, so I'll stay with the proven commodity beside providing a nice zip program. FWIW Batch file with Shortcut to open TB: =Begin Code=== C:\program files\the bat!\thebat.exe Call TBigfs.bat =End Code= TBigfs.bat batch file called on closing TB: =Begin Code=== cd \ rem (1) Set path where Windows 7-Zip located. Path C:\Windows;C:\Program Files\7-ZIP Echo off Echo on Echo *** Echo *!! Updating Backup !!* Echo * !! Archive of TB-Program !! * Echo *** rem set archiver=C:\Program Files\7-Zip\7z.exe rem (2) Set drive where TB Program located. set drvPm=c: rem (3) Set drive where TB mail base located. set drvMl=x: rem (4) Set drive where TB backups located. set drvBU=x: rem (5) Set directory where TB backups located. set dstdir=TBArchives\ rem (6) Set directory where TB program located. set srcdirPM=Program files\The Bat!\ rem (7) Set directory where TB mail base located. set srcdirMl=AppsBase\MAIL\ set archive=b1 : :loopPgrm set namePgm=%dstdir%tbIcPm%archive%.7z if not exist %drvBU%\%namePgm% goto doitPg if %archive%==b4 goto runoutPg if %archive%==b3 set archive=b4 if %archive%==b2 set archive=b3 if %archive%==b1 set archive=b2 goto loopPgrm : :runoutPg set archDel=b1 set nameDel=%dstdir%tbIcPm%archDel%.7z del %drvBU%\%nameDel% : :doitPg regedit /e %drvPm%\%srcdirPM%tbreg.reg hkey_current_user\software\rit cd \ if %archive%==b4 set prev=b3 if %archive%==b3 set prev=b2 if %archive%==b2 set prev=b1 if %archive%==b1 set prev=b4 %drvPm% cd \ copy %drvBU%\%dstdir%tbIcPm%prev%.7z %drvBU%\%namePgm% 7z u -ms=off %drvBU%\%namePgm% -up0q0r2x1y2z1w2 %srcdirPM%* -r X:\TBArchives\CkTBPgm.txt %drvPm% cd %srcdirPM% del tbreg.reg cd \ if %archive%==b4 set archDel=b1 if %archive%==b3 set archDel=b4 if %archive%==b2 set archDel=b3 if %archive%==b1 set archDel=b2 set namePgm=%drvBU%\%dstdir%tbIcPm%archDel%.7z del %namePgm% %drvMl% cd \ cd %srcdirMl% Echo * Echo * !! Updating Backup !! * Echo * !! Archive of TB-Mail !! * Echo * set archMl=b1 : :loopMail : set nameMl=%dstdir%tbIcMl%ArchMl%.7z if not exist %drvBU%\%nameMl% goto doitMl if %archMl%==b4 goto runoutMl if %archMl%==b3 set archMl=b4 if %archMl%==b2 set archMl=b3 if %archMl%==b1 set archMl=b2 goto loopMail : :runoutMl : set archDlMl=b1 set namDlMl=%dstdir%tbIcMl%archDlMl%.7z del %drvBU%\%namDlMl% : :doitMl : cd \ if %archMl%==b4 set prevMl=b3 if %archMl%==b3 set prevMl=b2 if %archMl%==b2 set prevMl=b1 if %archMl%==b1 set prevMl=b4 %drvBU% cd \ copy %drvBU%\%dstdir%tbIcMl%prevMl%.7z %drvBU%\%nameMl% %drvMl% cd \ 7z u -ms=off %drvBU%\%nameMl% -up0q0r2x1y2z1w2 %srcdirMl%* -r X:\TBArchives\CkTBMail.txt if %archMl%==b4 set archDlMl=b1 if %archMl%==b3 set archDlMl=b4 if %archMl%==b2 set archDlMl=b3 if %archMl%==b1 set archDlMl=b2 set nameMl=%drvBU%\%dstdir%tbIcMl%archDlMl%.7z %drvBU% cd \ del %nameMl% %drvPm% cd %srcdirPM% =End Code= [UNQUOTE] -- Kind regards, Costas Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hi Jack! I have no idea why an icon is created instead of a text string showing the date but I would love to know. Something in the regex perhaps? That's simply because the RegEx doesn't work correctly for filenames anymore. I suggest you write a bug report. (But Roelof mentioned it is a know problem somehow.) If you run the RegEx in a new message template, it puts in the date as expected and it should do the same for the backup filename. This apparently solves my original problem and I can run with it but it sure would be neat if TB! created a new, different backup instead of overwriting the existing one. It strange that TB! overwrite a file without a filename (I don't call an extension a filename :-)) but doesn't do it with a file. But if I look at your version number the regex might only work with a later version of TB! -- Regards, Raymund pgpCJUP8xDPOs.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hi! With backups you should rely on the grandfather principle. So you have the current backup, the last one and the one before that. Therefore I would like to see an option that you could set a schedule for three backups which will be overwritten everytime they are triggered. (It should be possible to specify three different locations that to be on the very safe side :-)) -- Regards, Raymund pgpvaux5z0XX3.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hallo David, On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:25:00 -0400GMT (24-7-2010, 17:25 , where I live), you wrote: DC Give it a base filename and then let it name them name-date Well, that exactly what TB is doing for me. DC and an option for how many to maintain so that it deletes the DC oldest one(s) That would be a nice option, currently I'm doing that manually. Generally when my system complains about shortage of disk space, deleting a load of 2 GB archives does wonders for that. I guess that if I really wanted to automate that, I could find a way (with or without TB) but it's very low on my todo list. -- Groetjes, Roelof Luxury: Costs $7.69 to make and $20.00 to market. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.0.50 ALPHA Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpNDmXUPLqNz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hello David, On Sunday, July 25, 2010 you wrote: DE Hi Jack, DE On Sat, 24 Jul 2010, at 11:20:24 [which was on Saturday at 17:20 where I DE live] you wrote: DC A way to have TB! manage several backups would be good. Give DC it a base filename and then let it name them name-date and an DC option for how many to maintain so that it deletes the oldest DC one(s) once it makes a new backup and reaches that point. Exactly! DE I did use to have regEx for the automated backup that contained the day of the DE week. This way I would only have 7 backups, and for some reason it would just DE write over on old backup. (Not sure of my settings) DE I would like to find the regEx again as I have recently moved TB! to a new DE computer. Well, if you ever remember how you did it, please post it so we can all stop using the assumed shortcomings of TB! as an excuse not to do backups. :) -- Jack LaRosa Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hello Roelof, On Sunday, July 25, 2010 you wrote: RO Hallo David, RO On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:25:00 -0400GMT (24-7-2010, 17:25 , where I RO live), you wrote: DC Give it a base filename and then let it name them name-date RO Well, that exactly what TB is doing for me. Roelof, can you give us an example of just how you are able to accomplish that? I tried to do that using several of the examples I found in the archives but all I was ever able to do was get a filename which was the exact string of characters used in the macro which should have equated out to a date or date/time filename. I found an old email on this subject, written by me coincidentally, which seems to indicate that the macro: autobackup-%DATE(-mm-dd)-%TIME(hh-mm-ss).tbk would produce a backup filename consisting of the date and time. Alas, all it did (I just tried it) was produce a backup with the filename autobackup-%DATE(-mm-dd)-%TIME(hh-mm-ss).tbk. It looks like the %DATE and %TIME aren't being recognized by TB!, at least not for an automatically generated filename. I even tried to simplify it by using autobackup-%DATE-%TIME.tbk and I ended up with a backup file called: autobackup-%DATE-%TIME.tbk. -- Jack LaRosa Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hello David, On Sunday, July 25, 2010 you wrote: DE Hi Jack, DE On Sun, 25 Jul 2010, at 07:29:47 [which was on Sunday at 13:29 where I live] DE you wrote: DC Give it a base filename and then let it name them name-date RO Well, that exactly what TB is doing for me. DE ... I found an old email on this subject, written by me coincidentally, which seems to indicate that the macro: autobackup-%DATE(-mm-dd)-%TIME(hh-mm-ss).tbk DE That looks like the one I was using before I moved TB! to another machine. For some reason that doesn't work anymore, if it ever did. I don't remember. However, please see my latest post on the subject where I have managed to get TB to at least overwrite the existing backup without hanging because of identical filenames. You should be able to see exactly what filename is in the your scheduler. -- Jack LaRosa Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Automatic backups
Greetings all,
In continuing to research this problem (for me anyway) I discovered an email
(http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg89326.html) which
contains a regex which supposedly will produce a backup which has a filename
containing both the date and time.
With this info I proceeded in this fashion: Under TOOLSSCHEDULER I get the
following display:
Please note, the ACTIONS line is highlighted.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4826693567_2b7b6893ca_b.jpg
If I right-click on the highlighted ACTION line I get this:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4826749585_39baee5213_b.jpg
Clicking on EDIT gives me this:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4078/4826765417_14afdb4daf_b.jpg
Notice the To backup file (standard) button is selected and further notice
the partially visible filename contained in the box.
Someone commented on the post mentioned in the above first paragraph that when
he tried this regex, TB! produced a backup titled with a
3-or-4-digit-number.tbk. The number preceding the .tbk was the time the file
was created i.e. if the backup ran at 1105am the file name would be 1105.tbk
He mentioned that since a scheduler by definition is always going to run at the
same time, the backup would fail apparently because of it attempting to use the
same filename.
I personally don't know how to use regex expressions but I was able to take the
originally posted regex and remove the part which generated the un-needed time
string. The resulting regex looks like this:
D:\Bat
backup\%SETPATTREGEXP=(\d+).(\d+)\.(\d{4})%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%DATESHORT%Subpatt=3%Subpatt=2%Subpatt=1.tbk.
When I told the scheduler to execute the action NOW, this is the resulting file
as it appears on my D: drive:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4827422984_610599fba8_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4827423784_9a94e312fa_b.jpg
Notice there is no actual filename but only an icon followed by .tbk. However,
if you hover the cursor over the icon you get this:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4827438052_79c30877ba_b.jpg
As you can see the type, date and size of the file is displayed.
I have no idea why an icon is created instead of a text string showing the date
but I would love to know. Something in the regex perhaps?
Anyway, as a test I created a backup (today, the 25th) which resulted in an
icon filename as mentioned, and then changed the date on my computer and
generated another backup by the same above method. TB!, apparently recognizing
that the original icon filename backup was created yesterday (the 25th),
overwrote it and created a new icon filename with tomorrow's date(the 26th)
appearing in the hover.
This apparently solves my original problem and I can run with it but it sure
would be neat if TB! created a new, different backup instead of overwriting the
existing one.
--
TIA,
Jack LaRosa
Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now.
Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3
Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hallo Jack, On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 07:29:47 -0500GMT (25-7-2010, 14:29 , where I live), you wrote: DC Give it a base filename and then let it name them name-date RO Well, that exactly what TB is doing for me. JSL Roelof, can you give us an example of just how you are able to accomplish that? I've disabled the autobackup feature and created an event in the scheduler, that event is set to create a backup with the name: E:\Mijn Backups\The Bat!\%Date=MMDD.tbk It has been discussed previously on the list that the macros don't work for the autoback, but they do for the scheduler driven backups. -- Groetjes, Roelof '95 - The percentage of people who will have to upgrade their hardware http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.0.50 ALPHA Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp2dLvEeI3b1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
I can do a normal full backup whenever I like, using The Bat tools/backup/standard method manually. Scheduled (automatic) full backups fail to work after the first one, however, apparently because the filename is already taken. Sorry if my original post wasn't clear. Mark Friday, July 23, 2010, 10:48:54 AM, you wrote: Hello mark-toss, On Friday, July 23, 2010 you wrote: mt Emerging from lurkdom to say I've had exactly the same problem. I can get The Bat to do incremental backups automatically, but not full backup. In my case, I just resigned myself to doing a full backup manually every week or so. Mark, are you saying that you can *NEVER* do a full backup? Even manually? Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hello mark, On Saturday, July 24, 2010 you wrote: m I can do a normal full backup whenever I like, using The Bat tools/backup/standard method manually. Scheduled (automatic) full backups fail to work after the first one, however, apparently because the filename is already taken. m Sorry if my original post wasn't clear. No problem. What you describe is exactly why I started this thread in the first place. Apparently TB! will refuse to overwrite the previous backup because the filename has already been used. I don't need/want my external backup drive filling up with full backups with different filenames. I suppose one might be able to use TASK SCHEDULER to execute a batch file which would delete the previous backup prior to TB! doing a scheduled full backup. Actually, you could make the argument that it's risky *NOT* to have previous backups in case something in TB! went hinky and you've just erased the previous GOOD backup and replaced it with a corrupt backup. I dunno. Maybe we're not looking at this with eyes wide open. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hello Jack on TBUDL, Saturday, July 24, 2010, 9:27:14 AM, you wrote: On Saturday, July 24, 2010 you wrote: m I can do a normal full backup whenever I like, using The Bat tools/backup/standard method manually. Scheduled (automatic) full backups fail to work after the first one, however, apparently because the filename is already taken. m Sorry if my original post wasn't clear. No problem. What you describe is exactly why I started this thread in the first place. Apparently TB! will refuse to overwrite the previous backup because the filename has already been used. I don't need/want my external backup drive filling up with full backups with different filenames. I suppose one might be able to use TASK SCHEDULER to execute a batch file which would delete the previous backup prior to TB! doing a scheduled full backup. Actually, you could make the argument that it's risky *NOT* to have previous backups in case something in TB! went hinky and you've just erased the previous GOOD backup and replaced it with a corrupt backup. I dunno. Maybe we're not looking at this with eyes wide open. A way to have TB! manage several backups would be good. Give it a base filename and then let it name them name-date and an option for how many to maintain so that it deletes the oldest one(s) once it makes a new backup and reaches that point. -- David Cá fhad é ó an tús go deireadh? Turas mór. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hello David, On Saturday, July 24, 2010 you wrote: --- snip --- DC A way to have TB! manage several backups would be good. Give DC it a base filename and then let it name them name-date and an DC option for how many to maintain so that it deletes the oldest DC one(s) once it makes a new backup and reaches that point. Exactly! -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hello mark-toss, On Friday, July 23, 2010 you wrote: mt Emerging from lurkdom to say I've had exactly the same problem. I can get The Bat to do incremental backups automatically, but not full backup. In my case, I just resigned myself to doing a full backup manually every week or so. Mark, are you saying that you can *NEVER* do a full backup? Even manually? -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Automatic backups
Fellow list members, Ok, I've looked through the archives for about an hour now and can't find an answer that works. The problem has to do with the filename used when TB! performs an automatic backup. I have the backup filename as TBbackup.tbk and it will save the backup properly the first time I run the backup. However, subsequent backups either manually started or started by TB! result in an error message because the filename already exists. Well, yes, that's true because the first backup was saved to that filename. Can I get TB! to automatically overwrite the old backup *OR* can a new backup filename be automatically created every time the autobackup runs? Some suggestions I found in the archives claimed the current date and time could be used to generate a filename but I never could get any of those to work. Usually a filename using a macro string would consist of the characters in the string but not the actual date and/or time. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hello Jack, Thursday, July 22, 2010, 10:01:14 PM, you wrote: JSL Ok, I've looked through the archives for about an hour now and can't find an answer that works. The problem has JSL to do with the filename used when TB! performs an automatic backup. I have the backup filename as TBbackup.tbk JSL and it will save the backup properly the first time I run the backup. However, subsequent backups either manually JSL started or started by TB! result in an error message because the filename already exists. Well, yes, that's true because the first backup was saved to that filename. JSL Can I get TB! to automatically overwrite the old backup *OR* can a new backup filename be automatically created JSL every time the autobackup runs? Some suggestions I found in the archives claimed the current date and time could JSL be used to generate a filename but I never could get any of those to work. Usually a filename using a macro string JSL would consist of the characters in the string but not the actual date and/or time. Are you sure you ticked the second choice Create an Update to an existing archive and not the first one To Backup File (standard)? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta 203 days remaining in 2009. Actually it's 204 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19246 days now. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hello Mark, On Thursday, July 22, 2010 you wrote: MP Hello Jack, MP Thursday, July 22, 2010, 10:01:14 PM, you wrote: JSL Ok, I've looked through the archives for about an hour now and can't find an answer that works. The problem has JSL to do with the filename used when TB! performs an automatic backup. --- snip - MP Are you sure you ticked the second choice Create an Update to an existing archive and not the first one To Backup MP File (standard)? Actually Mark, since I'm excessively anal retentive (my wife calls me Mr. Monk), I was trying to get TB! to produce a FULL backup every time it ran. While I'm sure I could eliminate this user-created problem by doing what you suggest, it would mean that periodically I would have to delete all the backups created to date and then manually create another FULL backup to seed the subsequent incremental backups because, left to it's own devices, TB! would continue to produce incremental backups ad infinitum. I think. Or am I completely missing the point here? -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Emerging from lurkdom to say I've had exactly the same problem. I can get The Bat to do incremental backups automatically, but not full backup. In my case, I just resigned myself to doing a full backup manually every week or so. Another Mark Thursday, July 22, 2010, 4:01:14 PM, you wrote: Fellow list members, Ok, I've looked through the archives for about an hour now and can't find an answer that works. The problem has to do with the filename used when TB! performs an automatic backup. I have the backup filename as TBbackup.tbk and it will save the backup properly the first time I run the backup. However, subsequent backups either manually started or started by TB! result in an error message because the filename already exists. Well, yes, that's true because the first backup was saved to that filename. Can I get TB! to automatically overwrite the old backup *OR* can a new backup filename be automatically created every time the autobackup runs? Some suggestions I found in the archives claimed the current date and time could be used to generate a filename but I never could get any of those to work. Usually a filename using a macro string would consist of the characters in the string but not the actual date and/or time. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups?
Hi Michael, On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:33:46 +0100 GMT (Jul 17, 18:18 my local time), you [MT] wrote: MT Is there any way to automate the Backup procedure? I wanna know the answer too, I don't know why the gurus are ignoring this thread :) -- Cheers, Sudip For PM:- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sudip Pokhrel Kathmandu-NP PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -- Sys Info -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600 ) H/W: Pentium IV 1.4 Ghz|256MB RAM|40GB HDD [IE 5.0, Opera 6.03 (default)] My operat~1 system unders~1 long filena~1 , does yours? Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Automatic backups?
On Friday, July 19, 2002, 12:40, Sudip Pokhrel wrote: MT Is there any way to automate the Backup procedure? I wanna know the answer too, I don't know why the gurus are ignoring this thread :) Probably because it's an FAQ. The answer is no and it could easily be found in the archives. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Automatic backups?
Dear Sudip, Friday, July 19, 2002 at 12:40:47 PM you wrote: MT Is there any way to automate the Backup procedure? SP I wanna know the answer too, I don't know why the gurus are ignoring SP this thread :) Max and Stephan is on a vacation until the 12th of august. I guess after that a lot of work is waiting for them. But it happens so that I know that one of the bat-dealers has made a program called EmailAlarm, and it has several purposes. 1) It can generate an e-mail whenever you want and sent it to whomever you want at the time specified by you. 2) Make a PopUp Windows reminder. 3) Start a program at a certain time. The program is shareware. The same dealer has made a backup program for The Bat!, but I haven't used it myself, because at the time I couldn't make it work with SecureBat! It is freeware now. Go to http://www.macasoft.hu/ and look for the English pages. -- Kind regards, Britt Malka |\/| | \__/ | \/\/ | | \\ // \ / \/ ... you've got to ask yourself one question: ... www.malka.it - www.malka.dk - www.supermalka.dk ... Mailer: Ritlabs SecureBat! v1.61 (7Ba40-6E8D5) under Windows 2000 5.0 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Automatic backups?
Dear Britt, But it happens so that I know that one of the bat-dealers has made a program called EmailAlarm, and it has several purposes. 1) It can generate an e-mail whenever you want and sent it to whomever you want at the time specified by you. 2) Make a PopUp Windows reminder. 3) Start a program at a certain time. The program is shareware. The same dealer has made a backup program for The Bat!, but I haven't used it myself, because at the time I couldn't make it work with SecureBat! It is freeware now. Go to http://www.macasoft.hu/ and look for the English pages. I assume this isn't official Ritlabs material as it would be on their own site? Does anyone use any of these products or have had experience of them? What are the *real* benefits over TB! as it stands? Thanks, Chris. mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Automatic backups?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED], @19 July 2002, 07:59 -0400 (12:59 UK time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Go to http://www.macasoft.hu/ and look for the English pages. I assume this isn't official Ritlabs material as it would be on their own site? Correct. Does anyone use any of these products or have had experience of them? I haven't used them - they don't appeal to me. What are the *real* benefits over TB! as it stands? + That you can schedule a backup to run any time. - - It's not a real TB style backup and that means you can't use the built-in TB Restore. That means that if you ever need to restore the data from this backup, you'll have to shock TB into accepting having the rug pulled from under it. That's probably a little alarmist. You'd only need to exit TB, restore the restart. It should accept the rollback without issue. However, it should be said that this utility was put together before TB had a backup of its own. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9OAilOeQkq5KdzaARAuJRAJ0Tk32bI4cafK9G6rTgSqcbVcjhGACdGHwY QUneF0Dd0ehOzQr+NBvr+vc= =NhZX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
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Hey Michael, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.60q)' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 at 8:33:46 AM. MT Hello tbudl, MT Is there any way to automate the Backup procedure?? Now within TB. However, you can create a batch file that 1. backs up the reg key (see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tbot/files/bckup1.bat) 2. backs up the TB file systems (copy, compress, etc.) Then schedule the batch file to run. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) I'm planning to be spontaneous tomorrow. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Automatic backups?
On Friday, July 19, 2002, 14:45, Tim Musson wrote: Now within TB. However, you can create a batch file that 1. backs up the reg key (see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tbot/files/bckup1.bat) 2. backs up the TB file systems (copy, compress, etc.) Then schedule the batch file to run. I've done this by scheduling the command: C:\WINNT\regedit.exe /e C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\TheBat.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT to run at 02:57 every night. At 03:00 I run W2K's build in backup program and back (among other things) C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\* Works great and I had no trouble restoring the one time I messed up my message base. (I know I should have mentioned this in my earlier posting to this thread. I apologize for my rudeness, I'm having a really bad day.) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Automatic backups?
Hello tbudl, Is there any way to automate the Backup procedure?? -- Best regards, Michael http://web.ukonline.co.uk/thompsonmike/ 'To see a world in a grain of sand And heaven in a wild flower To hold infinity in the palm of your hand And eternity in an hour' Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
automatic backups
Hi TBUDL folks, I'd like TB! to automatically backup all my mail accounts periodically or, if this isn't possible, to periodically remind me to backup manually. I've seen references to automatic backups in the archive (referring to a TB! vs. Becky comparison), but that's all. Anyone know if this is possible (or, hopefully, on the next TB! to do list)? Tony O. [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: automatic backups
On 12-03-2001 at 19:55, Tony Owens kindly wrote: I'd like TB! to automatically backup all my mail accounts periodically or, if this isn't possible, to periodically remind me to backup manually. From two earlier postings of mine: === fwd 1 === I use .. incremental backups via a batch file that is calling arj, in combination with a scheduler that starts the whole thing at 7 a.m., but I have added one important step: encrypting the backup. I might be a tad paranoid - the "Church" of Scientology is after me, and in such cases one can't be too cautious - but I really believe that all private communications should be stored encrypted. I also use a PGP-disk as my mail repository. === fwd 2 === Here's my batch file for incremental backups encryption: @echo off set path=c:\utils\backup;e:\backups\h-drive set tz=met-1dst c:\utils\arj\arj32 a -r -hm0 -i2 -h# -jm -b1 -x!c:\utils\backup\h-exclude.txt e:\backups\h-drive\h- h:\*.* c:\utils\backup\pgp23 -e -w e:\backups\h-drive\h-*.arj Karin Spaink I'll break up the last two lines: c:\utils\arj\arj32 That's where my arj32.exe resides; a -r -hm0 -i2 -h# -jm -b1 -x!c:\utils\backup\h-exclude.txt The switches for arj.exe: a = archive -r= use recursive directories -hm0 = to manage huge file lists -i2 = provides a combined percentage and bar progress display -h# = append current date/time string -jm = select high size reduction -b1 = backup changed files and reset archive bits -x[x] = exclude the files named in [x] e:\backups\h-drive\h- h:\*.* Backup target and backup source This results in files in the format H-010223.arj (for 23 Feb 2001). In the last line, this file is encrypted (conventional encryption), using the key stored in the backup directory: c:\utils\backup\pgp23 -e -w e:\backups\h-drive\h-*.arj Karin Spaink -e = encrypt file -w = wipe original That's it. It's executed in well under five minutes, using a P600. === end fwd === - K - -- Biographies rely on butch criteria: a life is plotted according to the markers of death, marriage, professional appointment, murder and military campaigns. - Alain de Botton: Kiss Tell -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
