Re: Backup question
Hello Jack, Tuesday, August 29, 2017, 12:55:23 AM, you wrote: JSL> Wow. Thanks Richard. Your answer was one of the most informative and easily JSL> understood answers I've had in a while. I have found that TB! tech support via You are welcome. I rarely actually get to make a contribution to this forum so I am glad my response was helpful. I thought is was a rather simple question coming from you. And you managed to explain that. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:the...@newmangroup.com === Using The Bat! v7.4.16.45 (ALPHA) on Windows 10 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup question
Hello Richard, On Monday, August 28, 2017 you wrote: RN> Hello Jack, RN> Monday, August 28, 2017, 1:55:44 PM, you wrote: JSL>> could I restore from a 6 month old backup and search for an JSL>> email, then restore from the most current backup to bring me back JSL>> to where I was? RN> Basically the answer to your question is yes. RN> RN> First I would make a "new current backup" vs one of your RN> monthlies. Make sure that backup includes Account Properties, RN> Folders with Messages, Address Books, Global Options and RN> Attachment Files. RN> RN> Then restore only Folders with Messages from your 6 month old RN> backup. The will keep account properties, address books and RN> global options in sync with your current settings. RN> RN> Once you search/find for your missing email decide how you RN> want to restore your latest messages from the "new current RN> backup". RN> RN> 1) If you do nothing to the Folders with Messages from your 6 RN> month old back and restore Folders with Messages from the "new RN> current backup" you will probably end up with duplications. RN> If you use Folders Remove Duplicates the program may or RN> may not remove duplicates. By my experience, many RN> duplicates will remain. RN> RN> 2) If you do #1 and have more duplicates than you like, delete RN> all non-standard folders in each account and delete all RN> messages in standard folders other than your original missing RN> message. That should give you essentially a "blank" TB set-up RN> with all of your account properties, address books and global RN> options. RN> Now if you restore Folders with Messages from your RN> "new current backup" you should have everything back RN> to where you started plus the missing message. RN> RN> I avoid searching for an old message in TB backups, I bcc all RN> outgoing and incoming email to a Gmail account that I RN> established just for backups. You may want to consider that RN> for the future. It's a faster method of recovery. Wow. Thanks Richard. Your answer was one of the most informative and easily understood answers I've had in a while. I have found that TB! tech support via this list beats anything else. I don't have the problem I described, it was just an easy way to get my message across in an understandable way, and I see it worked. It has happened in the past and I'm sure it will happen again so your answer will be invaluable in bailing me out when it does happen. -- Regards, Jack LaRosa Central Alabama USA Using TB! 6.0.12 OS: Windows, Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup question
Hello Jack, Monday, August 28, 2017, 1:55:44 PM, you wrote: JSL> could I restore from a 6 month old backup and search for an JSL> email, then restore from the most current backup to bring me back JSL> to where I was? Basically the answer to your question is yes. First I would make a "new current backup" vs one of your monthlies. Make sure that backup includes Account Properties, Folders with Messages, Address Books, Global Options and Attachment Files. Then restore only Folders with Messages from your 6 month old backup. The will keep account properties, address books and global options in sync with your current settings. Once you search/find for your missing email decide how you want to restore your latest messages from the "new current backup". 1) If you do nothing to the Folders with Messages from your 6 month old back and restore Folders with Messages from the "new current backup" you will probably end up with duplications. If you use Folders Remove Duplicates the program may or may not remove duplicates. By my experience, many duplicates will remain. 2) If you do #1 and have more duplicates than you like, delete all non-standard folders in each account and delete all messages in standard folders other than your original missing message. That should give you essentially a "blank" TB set-up with all of your account properties, address books and global options. Now if you restore Folders with Messages from your "new current backup" you should have everything back to where you started plus the missing message. I avoid searching for an old message in TB backups, I bcc all outgoing and incoming email to a Gmail account that I established just for backups. You may want to consider that for the future. It's a faster method of recovery. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:the...@newmangroup.com === Using The Bat! v7.4.16.45 (ALPHA) on Windows 10 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Backup question
Hello TBUDL'ers, Assuming I have TB! backups going back one year (one per month) could I restore from a 6 month old backup and search for an email, then restore from the most current backup to bring me back to where I was? -- TIA, Jack LaRosa :usflag: :alabamaflag: Central Alabama Using TB! 6.0.12 OS: Safely back to Windows, Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup question
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Saturday, May 23, 2015, 4:11:56 AM, you wrote: MG I'm currently using version 6.4.0.2 (32-bit) with Windows 7. MG I backup my Bat every day at around 5:30 pm with The Bat backup MG utility that places a .tbk file in a folder on my C drive. MG Each night, that .tbk file gets backed up to an off-site cloud location through IBackup. MG If my computer totally crashed and I had to get a new computer, MG am I correct in saying that I could then download whatever the MG current version of TheBat! is and restore the .tbk file and have MG my Bat program be exactly the same as before the crash with all MG the emails available and readable, etc? MG In other words, is the .tbk backup fill all I need to be functioning again? MG I ask this because I've noticed that in my user folder under MG AppData||Roaming there are a number of TheBat! files. One of the MG Roaming files has the name of my account, and it's 2.2 gb in size. MG Do I need to back these Roaming files up as well, or are all of these in my .tbk file? MG Thanks. MG Mike Greenbaum MG -- MG - MG No virus found in this message. MG Checked by AVG - www.avg.com MG Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3722/7242 - Release Date: 03/24/14 MG MG Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: MG http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Yes, the .tbk file is all you need. I do manual back ups regularly and have in the past been able to restore fully. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Money is the root of all evil. Send $30 for more info. Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Backup question
I'm currently using version 6.4.0.2 (32-bit) with Windows 7. I backup my Bat every day at around 5:30 pm with The Bat backup utility that places a .tbk file in a folder on my C drive. Each night, that .tbk file gets backed up to an off-site cloud location through IBackup. If my computer totally crashed and I had to get a new computer, am I correct in saying that I could then download whatever the current version of TheBat! is and restore the .tbk file and have my Bat program be exactly the same as before the crash with all the emails available and readable, etc? In other words, is the .tbk backup fill all I need to be functioning again? I ask this because I've noticed that in my user folder under AppData||Roaming there are a number of TheBat! files. One of the Roaming files has the name of my account, and it's 2.2 gb in size. Do I need to back these Roaming files up as well, or are all of these in my .tbk file? Thanks. Mike Greenbaum -- - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3722/7242 - Release Date: 03/24/14 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Backup question revisited
Hi Allie, As far as i can tell, no errors were displayed when doing the backup, however, since i use a screen reader that produses the screen contents in speech and braille, and since the screen is updating so fast, it may very well be that i've missed something along the way. Do the errors display in a dialog or do they just flicker by whilst the process is going on? -- /Krister Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup question revisited
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Krister Ekstrom, [KE] wrote: KE As far as i can tell, no errors were displayed when doing the KE backup, however, since i use a screen reader that produses the KE screen contents in speech and braille, and since the screen is KE updating so fast, it may very well be that i've missed something KE along the way. Do the errors display in a dialog or do they just KE flicker by whilst the process is going on? The errors usually appear in dialog form and requires your interaction for the backup to continue. It's also possible that you didn't backup all the elements or there was a problem during the restoration process. I've used the method you used without problems. The problem is that the backup is in a format that only TB! can handle so if TB! cannot restore, then you're in problems. Did you delete the original installation? - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPwQIEFfJ62ArBxfiEQKKWgCgqZJpk2iqNFnyQ4gHZ9J+1l5ds6MAn2uJ MaG2dm1Lb6UyN15/ssReJMFU =cSBm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Backup question revisited
Hi Allie, Ok, then no, there were no errors, neither in the backup or the restore process. It's possible though that i didn't make a common folder on my old installation, but i'm pretty sure i did. However, all my accounts were backed up, but only one account did show up, the one with messages in it. And no, i have the old installation left on the win98 machine. If you have any more hints to give me, please do so via email, since i've set the list to vacation mode, at least i hope i have.:-) AM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- AM Hash: SHA1 AM Krister Ekstrom, [KE] wrote: KE As far as i can tell, no errors were displayed when doing the KE backup, however, since i use a screen reader that produses the KE screen contents in speech and braille, and since the screen is KE updating so fast, it may very well be that i've missed something KE along the way. Do the errors display in a dialog or do they just KE flicker by whilst the process is going on? AM The errors usually appear in dialog form and requires your interaction AM for the backup to continue. AM It's also possible that you didn't backup all the elements or there was AM a problem during the restoration process. I've used the method you used AM without problems. AM The problem is that the backup is in a format that only TB! can handle AM so if TB! cannot restore, then you're in problems. Did you delete the AM original installation? AM - -- AM -= allie_M =- | List Moderator AM _ AM -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- AM Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 AM iQA/AwUBPwQIEFfJ62ArBxfiEQKKWgCgqZJpk2iqNFnyQ4gHZ9J+1l5ds6MAn2uJ AM MaG2dm1Lb6UyN15/ssReJMFU AM =cSBm AM -END PGP SIGNATURE- AM AM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: AM http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- /Krister, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Backup question revisited
Hi Bat! people, Sorry for the cross posting, but i figured someone somewhere might have an answer to this. I have just switched from a windows 98 machine to one with XP Pro, and i have made a backup of my TB settings using the built-in backup tool. When i made the backup, i chose to backup everything possible, that is my common folders, my accounts, (three) and my account and global options. When restoring, i only got to process one of three accounts and my common folders were missing. Pressing the key combo for scanning for lost folders gave the result that no folders were lost. What gives here? What's more, i don't have my quick templates anymore, but i have my folder and ab templates. How do i get my quick templates back? And the last question, what registry key should i look for and copy if my copy of TB is unregistered? I'd be greatful for any answer you could provide me with. Thanks much! -- /Krister Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup question revisited
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Krister Ekstrom, [KE] wrote: KE I have just switched from a windows 98 machine to one with XP Pro, KE and i have made a backup of my TB settings using the built-in backup KE tool. When i made the backup, i chose to backup everything possible, KE that is my common folders, my accounts, (three) and my account and KE global options. When restoring, i only got to process one of three KE accounts and my common folders were missing. Pressing the key combo KE for scanning for lost folders gave the result that no folders were KE lost. What gives here? What's more, i don't have my quick templates KE anymore, but i have my folder and ab templates. How do i get my KE quick templates back? And the last question, what registry key KE should i look for and copy if my copy of TB is unregistered? Did any errors occur while doing the backup? - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPwMhh1fJ62ArBxfiEQIZTACgtgG96Y0avcpTuQiLz4QDfqSofnMAoKqP FFY5ZPtZjqZ7MN2Avd+sMSir =RAEr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup question revisited
Hello Krister, On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:38:23 +0200 GMT (02/07/03, 19:38 +0700 GMT), Krister Ekstrom wrote: I have just switched from a windows 98 machine to one with XP Pro, and i have made a backup of my TB settings using the built-in backup tool. I moved my mother's TB from a Win95 machine to WinXP Home last month. Step 1: Export HKCU / Software / RIT into the TB directory intoo a file tb.reg. Step 2: Zip the whole The Bat! directory. It is a good idea to run a Purge Compress All Folders first - saved some 7MB (about 50%). Step 3: Unzip the whole zip file into the folder structre of the new computer. There is no need to create a The Bat! directory first, as this is part of you zip file. Step 4: Run the tb.reg in order to get the key imported into your registry. Step 5: Run TB. Everything should be as it was before. Of course, this method requires that you use the same drive and paths. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
