Re: moving filters between common filters and account filters
M> please assist and advice how to move filters between account filters M> and common filters. Select the filter you want to move Press Ctrl C Select the new location for the filter Press Ctrl V Now you've copied the filter to it's new location, because you can't move filters between accounts. Therefore you return to the original filter and delete it. ++ appreciated mate thank you -- vernon Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: moving filters between common filters and account filters
Hallo monsell, On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 13:52:40 +0530GMT (1-10-2013, 10:22 , where I live), you wrote: M> please assist and advice how to move filters between account filters M> and common filters. Select the filter you want to move Press Ctrl C Select the new location for the filter Press Ctrl V Now you've copied the filter to it's new location, because you can't move filters between accounts. Therefore you return to the original filter and delete it. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator Motto: "Excess is never enough." http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.4.8 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
moving filters between common filters and account filters
dear friends, please assist and advice how to move filters between account filters and common filters. we got 3 accounts and each account got filters not exceeding 5 but we do have common folders of about 200 and there are about 150 common filters set up. many thanks -- vernon Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Power Outage Destroyed Operation of Common Filters
On Thu 3-Jul-08 9:42am -0600, Roelof Otten wrote: > In case you haven't got any backup, > Try to copy and paste all filters to your text editor and follow the > same procedure as above, but in stead of restoring the > account.srb/account.erb file from mail directory simply delete them > > Note that every account has an account.srb file too. Those store the > account filters and you should leave them alone, the file in the mail > directory stores the common filters. Thanks for all those details on the other two approaches - I've color coded that message and parked it - just in case. Deleting both the ACCOUNT.SRB and ACCOUNT.SRX from the Mail folder appears to have solved the problem. Thanks again! I'm still getting a pair of errors, that were part of more errors, that I've been getting at startup in my thebat_Exceiption.log since the power outage. I'll start a separate thread on those messages. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 4.0.24.25 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP3 POP3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Power Outage Destroyed Operation of Common Filters
Hallo Bill, On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 15:11:31 -0500GMT (1-7-2008, 22:11 +0200, where I live), you wrote: BM> Note that all the high level filters (except Incoming mail) are BM> repeated in Incoming mail along with "Moving In Hooks" and there are BM> not in there normal sorted order. You wouldn't happen to have a real backup would you? I don't mean one created by TB (as those don't allow only restoring the sorting offic), but a backup created with the explorer or something like winrar that allows for retrieving individual files. If so, copy and paste your new filters to a text editor (one at a time) if your mutilated sorting office still allows that. Close TB. Restore the file account.srb (account.erb when you're using otfe) from your backup to your mail directory Run TB Copy and paste your new filters from your text editor to your sorting office Close TB Start TB In case you haven't got any backup, Try to copy and paste all filters to your text editor and follow the same procedure as above, but in stead of restoring the account.srb/account.erb file from mail directory simply delete them Note that every account has an account.srb file too. Those store the account filters and you should leave them alone, the file in the mail directory stores the common filters. In case you haven't got a file based backup, but you do have an internal TB backup you could try this to restore your old filters. Cut your internet connection Close TB Delete the account.srb file from your mail directory (account.erb when using otfe) Make a copy of your mail directory with the explorer Start TB Restore your TB backup Close TB Copy the backup of your mail directory on top of your restored mail directory Start TB Reconnect your internet connection The cutting of your internet connection is to prevent the loss of messages received while your busy with this procedure -- Groetjes, Roelof Water floats a ship...Water sinks a ship. Old Chinese Proverb http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.24.25 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpAyzYHTyh6C.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Power Outage Destroyed Operation of Common Filters
Hello TB User Discussion List, Sunday, I added several new sorting office incoming filters to my usual account. I failed to shut down TB after doing this and just left my computer in Stand By mode over night. We had a power outage Monday while my computer was on (it lasted longer than the battery). When I restarted, every seemed fine until I tried a Read messages filter from the Common Filters "account." Ctrl-Shift-X, which normally deletes a message both locally and on the server, didn't work. When I checked my sorting office, I noticed that the new (added Sunday) incoming filters filters were missing! I then checked the Common Filters - there were my new filters from my account. I moved them, one at a time, from the Common Filters to my account. I had to close and open TB each time or I received an unrecoverable error message and had to shut down TB with Task Manager. Now my Common Filters have this odd structure. I've rebooted WinXP to no avail. Incoming mail Outgoing mail Moving In Hooks Selective Download Read messages Replied messages Outgoing mail Read messages Replied messages Selective Download Note that all the high level filters (except Incoming mail) are repeated in Incoming mail along with "Moving In Hooks" and there are not in there normal sorted order. I can add, say, a Read messages filter to Common Filters - but it doesn't work. How can I fix my Common Filters so they work again? Thanks for listening. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 4.0.24.24 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP3 POP3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Common Filters
Hello TBUDL, I don't make complete backups of my mails in the office any more, as the sysad backs them up anyway. So, if my HD crashes, I can restore the mails directly from the server. However, I want to backup my TB! settings. The directory structure is no problem, but my most sensitive "asset" are the Common Filters. they will get the honour of being backed up to two different locations. I know they are in one of the account.* files, but I don't remember which one. Help is appreciated. TB!v3.99.3 / non-OTFE / Windows XP. -- TIA, Thomas. Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Forgot to trim reply. Sorry. [Was: Re: "Common" filters]
Hi On Thursday 2 August 2007 at 8:17:43 PM, in , MFPA wrote: > After you log in, the page has a big box called "add note" above > the existing notes. Sorry, Moderators. I realised after sending that I had not trimmed. -- Best regards, MFPA Volvo, Video, Velcro. (I came, I saw, I stuck around.) Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "Common" filters
Hi On Wednesday 1 August 2007 at 4:49:42 PM, in , Peter Kerekes wrote: > Hello Bill, > Wednesday, July 25, 2007, 12:26:10 PM, you wrote: Bill>> On Tue, 2007-07-24, Thomas Fernandez wrote: >>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:07:19 +1000 GMT (25/07/2007, 08:07 +0700 GMT), >>> John Phillips wrote: JP>>>> My understanding of the word "common" as in "Common Filters" that they JP>>>> apply to both received and sent mail, but it appear I am wrong here? >>> You are wrong, but you are welcome to support this wish: >>> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0003319 Bill>> It occurs to me that the filters in this proposal would be ordered in a Bill>> single list rather than by each type of event. I could imagine a situation Bill>> where a shared set of incoming and outgoing filters might need opposite Bill>> orders! Bill>> Just a thought. > How can I support this request? I found your link but could not find any > way to add comments/support to NOTES. After you log in, the page has a big box called "add note" above the existing notes. -- Best regards, MFPA A bird in the hand makes it awfully hard to blow your nose Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: "Common" filters
Hello Bill, Wednesday, July 25, 2007, 12:26:10 PM, you wrote: Bill> On Tue, 2007-07-24, Thomas Fernandez wrote: >> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:07:19 +1000 GMT (25/07/2007, 08:07 +0700 GMT), >> John Phillips wrote: JP>>> My understanding of the word "common" as in "Common Filters" that they JP>>> apply to both received and sent mail, but it appear I am wrong here? >> You are wrong, but you are welcome to support this wish: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0003319 Bill> It occurs to me that the filters in this proposal would be ordered in a Bill> single list rather than by each type of event. I could imagine a situation Bill> where a shared set of incoming and outgoing filters might need opposite Bill> orders! Bill> Just a thought. How can I support this request? I found your link but could not find any way to add comments/support to NOTES. However since this is going on since 2004 and requested by a number of people I don't have much hope to get it, unless we start a "riot". -- Best regards, Peter The BAT 3.99.8, Windows XP, Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "Common" filters
On Tue, 2007-07-24, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:07:19 +1000 GMT (25/07/2007, 08:07 +0700 GMT), > John Phillips wrote: JP>> My understanding of the word "common" as in "Common Filters" that they JP>> apply to both received and sent mail, but it appear I am wrong here? > You are wrong, but you are welcome to support this wish: > https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0003319 It occurs to me that the filters in this proposal would be ordered in a single list rather than by each type of event. I could imagine a situation where a shared set of incoming and outgoing filters might need opposite orders! Just a thought. -- Bill McQuillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Using The Bat! 2.11 on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600-Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "Common" filters
On Wed, 25 July 2007 17:37:31 +1000 GMT(25/07/2007, 08:37 + GMT), John Phillips wrote: 6JP> Thomas, JP> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, at 08:49:12 [GMT +0700] (11:49:12 JP> 25/07/2007 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: >> You are wrong, but you are welcome to support this wish: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0003319 JP> Shall be done! I was about to support this too - until I realised that I did so in March LAST year. -- Eric Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -- Best regards, Ericmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "Common" filters
Thomas, On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, at 08:49:12 [GMT +0700] (11:49:12 25/07/2007 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: > You are wrong, but you are welcome to support this wish: > https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0003319 Shall be done! -- Regards, John Phillips *** Confidentiality, Privilege Notice, and Warning *** This e-mail is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you must not copy or deliver this message to anyone, and you must destroy this message and notify the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail and attachments, if any, have not been scanned for virus threats, worms, trojan horse attacks, or any other electronic form of disruption. It is your responsibility to scan for same, and take appropriate action where necessary. Fashion Fair will not, under any circumstances whatsoever, accept any responsibility for such computer born problems. Details of our privacy policy can be viewed at www.fashionfair.com.au Fashion Fair Pty Ltd (and associated companies) Established 1981 PO Box 274 (2 Mark Street) Lidcombe 1825, Australia Telephone +61 2 9749 1933 Fax +61 2 9749 2727 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "Common" filters
Hello John, On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:07:19 +1000 GMT (25/07/2007, 08:07 +0700 GMT), John Phillips wrote: JP> My understanding of the word "common" as in "Common Filters" that they JP> apply to both received and sent mail, but it appear I am wrong here? You are wrong, but you are welcome to support this wish: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0003319 JP> What is a "common" filter as opposed to a normal filter Normal filters apply only to one account. Common filters can apply to more than one account, but please make sure to tick the appropriate accounts in the "Share with" tab. By default, no account is ticked, and you will wonder why the filters doesn't catch. JP> (help files not suggestive re this), and can I write a "common" JP> filter to apply to both Inbox & Sent mail? You can have comon incoming filters, common outgoing filters etc. JP> (Apologies for the long footer - company policy!)( It does not matter, because you use a working sig delimiter. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. 31. 'Stewardesses' is the longest English word that is typed with only the left hand. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
"Common" filters
Batophiles, My understanding of the word "common" as in "Common Filters" that they apply to both received and sent mail, but it appear I am wrong here? What is a "common" filter as opposed to a normal filter (help files not suggestive re this), and can I write a "common" filter to apply to both Inbox & Sent mail? (Apologies for the long footer - company policy!)( Bat Pro 3.99.3 XP Pro SP2 -- Regards, John Phillips *** Confidentiality, Privilege Notice, and Warning *** This e-mail is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you must not copy or deliver this message to anyone, and you must destroy this message and notify the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail and attachments, if any, have not been scanned for virus threats, worms, trojan horse attacks, or any other electronic form of disruption. It is your responsibility to scan for same, and take appropriate action where necessary. Fashion Fair will not, under any circumstances whatsoever, accept any responsibility for such computer born problems. Details of our privacy policy can be viewed at www.fashionfair.com.au Fashion Fair Pty Ltd (and associated companies) Established 1981 PO Box 274 (2 Mark Street) Lidcombe 1825, Australia Telephone +61 2 9749 1933 Fax +61 2 9749 2727 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Common filters - where are "share with" settings stored?
Hi I managed to lose all my common filters by accidentally moving the file %appdata%\The Bat!\account.srb. I have replaced the blank account.srb automatically created with the file I moved and now have the common filters back but they now all have a list of blank tickboxes on the "share with" tab when viewed in sorting office (and of course do not work as they are shared with no accounts). Before I plough through and manually reinstate the "share with" settings for each filter, can anybody suggest in which file it is stored (as it would appear not to be in account.srb)? -- Best regards, MFPA Lack of money is no obstacle. Lack of an idea is an obstacle. Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Musings on Common Filters and Multiple Accounts
Hi Everyone, Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 8:19:38 AM, I wrote: PN> Do any of you agree this might be a desirable configuration option? PN> And if I entered it on Ritlabs' Wish List, would you support it? Based on the feedback I've received to these questions, I've concluded that there is no need to submit my idea to the wish list. I probably have a few more years before I have to have everything automated ... at least a few anyway. ;-) Thank you all for sharing your thoughts. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Musings on Common Filters and Multiple Accounts
Hi On Wednesday 1 November 2006 at 1:30:06 PM, in , Perry Nelson wrote: > Chris W. said something similar. I suppose you both go to the > Sorting Office and select the Common Filters from the account > dropdown list and type in the conditions on which to filter and > the actions to take. I think if I did it "your" way I would often end up hitting the edit button and using the Sorting Office GUI as many of my filters are not "if from this one name/address move to the folder bearing that correspondent's name within the account I'm currently browsing". > They just reflect different paths to the same destination. Horses for courses, as they say. > Thanks for contributing your thoughts. It was a pleasure (-: -- Best regards, MFPA Yellow snow is not lemon flavoured Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Musings on Common Filters and Multiple Accounts
Hi MFPA, Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 7:55:59 AM, you wrote: >> it occurs to me that it might be desirable to have the option to make >> "create common filter" a "sticky" selection M> Sounds reasonable, although I don't think I've ever created a filter M> that way. Chris W. said something similar. I suppose you both go to the Sorting Office and select the Common Filters from the account dropdown list and type in the conditions on which to filter and the actions to take. That strategy is, to me, analogous to writing a macro from scratch rather just turning on a macro recorder and then performing the actions you want it to take. Both work and neither is "wrong," of course. They just reflect different paths to the same destination. >> Also, I think it would be helpful if The Bat! would prompt me >> when I save a common filter to specify which accounts I want it >> applied to M> Yes that would be very helpful to me, too. I make extensive use of M> common filters and have lost count of the times I created a new M> filter but did not apply it to any accounts. This second portion of my wish seems to elicit more support than the first part, "not that there's anything wrong with that." Thanks for contributing your thoughts. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Musings on Common Filters and Multiple Accounts
Hi On Tuesday 31 October 2006 at 1:19:38 PM, in , Perry Nelson wrote: > it occurs to me that it might be desirable to have the option to > make "create common filter" a "sticky" selection Sounds reasonable, although I don't think I've ever created a filter that way. > Also, I think it would be helpful if The Bat! would prompt me > when I save a common filter to specify which accounts I want it > applied to Yes that would be very helpful to me, too. I make extensive use of common filters and have lost count of the times I created a new filter but did not apply it to any accounts. -- Best regards, MFPA During an eruption - move away from the volcano - not towards it Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Musings on Common Filters and Multiple Accounts
Hi Alexander, Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 5:08:07 PM, you wrote: >> Do any of you agree this might be a desirable configuration option? ASK> I don't know if it is really necessary to have a configuration ASK> option for the state of a single tickbox, really. After all, ASK> creating a filter requires a bit of attention right from the start, ASK> and I think now that you're aware that you can create common ASK> filters that way, you'll remember to check that tickbox. ;-) Your point is well taken. Now that I am aware of how to do this, I'm sure that's the way I'll create most, if not all, filters in the future, and that is why I'd like the tickbox to be "sticky." My rationale for making it a configuration option is that I don't want to impose my preferences on everyone else by requesting that the option be set that way by default, thus requiring everyone else to either follow my practice or to have to untick it, if they don't want it that way. ASK> However, you have mentioned another point that would be worth a ASK> wishlist entry because IMHO, a new common filter by default should ASK> simply apply to all accounts (I've stumbled over this each time I ASK> created a new common filter). After all, the whole point of common ASK> filters is that they apply to multiple accounts. :-) I agree, as you would suspect. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Musings on Common Filters and Multiple Accounts
Hi Richard, Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 11:09:49 AM, you wrote: RHS> I support it wholeheartedly. I have two main accounts and my wife RHS> has one, and we do get mail from friends to all of them; in fact, RHS> friends for some reason will copy all three on the same e-mail even RHS> though they know all three are on one little laptop here. I've set RHS> up filters manually for them by copying them one by one, but it RHS> would indeed be nice to do it your way, and I'll will implement it RHS> ASAP. Thanks for your input, Richard. Fortunately for both of us, using common filters doesn't require any changes to The Bat!. That capability already exists. It only requires a little more attention to detail than I sometimes give to what I'm doing. If I could set the dialog to remember my preference for creating common filters, it would make my life a little easier. The Bat! already epitomizes the essence of choice in many things. This wish merely extends that trend, it seems to me. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Musings on Common Filters and Multiple Accounts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Perry, Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 7:20:19 PM, you wrote: PN> I think I'll hold off on submitting the wish until others have had PN> a chance to weigh in though. I support it wholeheartedly. I have two main accounts and my wife has one, and we do get mail from friends to all of them; in fact, friends for some reason will copy all three on the same e-mail even though they know all three are on one little laptop here. I've set up filters manually for them by copying them one by one, but it would indeed be nice to do it your way, and I'll will implement it ASAP. - -- Thanks, Rick -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) - GPGshell v3.52 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJFR3VKAAoJELf6ImSjvaeWVEYP/jBqW2sHycrkKYyVG+vi8W57 2c5x1WU6THS5riXFllWOv3+9B7WDYEemDpUCUWPtr7z4gMkLpfGp3SM1vN6GvOpO qcwi49kdZUOS72yKAg3sD8SU9oL0YZkGovLx2Oyx9FdF/VZWOXroBNFz3B1d6jb3 XN7VM2L1613/4u5TMiILmac4FP3YxTsYqjbMncYhOX18PG3+8Q9TuMgOcFfIlC86 r1V6ItEU0C/mYRU6mlhl/Uf3D7smhjlols1HICP+ytlpDPoLVbpDrG0JfIelbIhc 78AC07DKsElzftIy7UpLER3W600NwDwfv0Mun2Bo3hkVjRdrakjb2XoNA0yhpog2 lX1aMVM40AVz0wkFvrX1jkB2+nmQhCdsOzfWW+05DpGNXnmZmr60CHIzxVKMfloX JcoLCANBZDbh7/qBR7M4gr+eiGZX82OtXhjycScvNvvLdJShTgfTzYCuhaO2OvmT krWgnjNx1KFMVc+dLtrLROxImHwQghaKRO3n4PFGh0Ns+74foyn4zwMQ7v1ESOlP /qxlNNs3LtwzCX4NpM8vA+bLY3GU8NcRfoWAps3q8uLIJ3QaIc8xDQl3sN88xO/E btYlMrQuaENfm2wTLmxSMnUOVHoHLcb16IeTuFjgk+iKIQreJrRcbW9Cy5k6C2yT ntmeEf8Nny//Rr28wWBD =Uh6C -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Musings on Common Filters and Multiple Accounts
Hello Perry Nelson & everyone else, on 31-Okt-2006 at 14:19 you (Perry Nelson) wrote: > Do any of you agree this might be a desirable configuration option? > And if I entered it as on Ritlabs' Wish List, would you support it? If > not, what are the pitfalls you see or reasons why you don't think it > is a good idea. I don't know if it is really necessary to have a configuration option for the state of a single tickbox, really. After all, creating a filter requires a bit of attention right from the start, and I think now that you're aware that you can create common filters that way, you'll remember to check that tickbox. ;-) However, you have mentioned another point that would be worth a wishlist entry because IMHO, a new common filter by default should simply apply to all accounts (I've stumbled over this each time I created a new common filter). After all, the whole point of common filters is that they apply to multiple accounts. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: "Sun" by The Ambush (from the 1994 album "The Ambush") Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Musings on Common Filters and Multiple Accounts
Hi Chris, Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 2:59:46 PM, you wrote: >> When I highlight a message and choose to create a filter for it, I >> find that there is a check box on the dialog to "create common >> filter." CW> Personally, I never create filters this way. I just using the CW> Sorting Office. I respect the fact that there are several different ways to create a filter, so my request wouldn't help you, it seems. On the other hand, it wouldn't hurt you either, I assume. Thanks for your input. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Musings on Common Filters and Multiple Accounts
Perry Nelson @ 2006-10-31 7:19:38 AM "Musings on Common Filters and Multiple Accounts" > When I highlight a message and choose to create a filter for it, I > find that there is a check box on the dialog to "create common > filter." Personally, I never create filters this way. I just using the Sorting Office. -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Today's Oxymoron: Terribly pleased pgpZ0i18kQOGD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Musings on Common Filters and Multiple Accounts
Hi Mary, Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 10:16:46 AM, you wrote: MB> But I copied your post to my Troubleshooting file, so I won't have MB> to do a search here when I'm ready to use it. Thanks for elaborating on your possible use of my idea. For things like this, rather than copying to a file, I've created a color group that I call "Instructional," though it could just as easily be called "Troubleshooting" if you prefer, and I've created a virtual folder for such messages. Just another way to "skin a cat." -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Musings on Common Filters and Multiple Accounts
Hello Perry! On Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 8:20 AM, you wrote: >>> Do any of you agree this might be a desirable configuration option? >>> And if I entered it as on Ritlabs' Wish List, would you support it? MB>> Speaking for myself, Yes, yes, yes! MB>> Write the Wish List report, please. > Thanks for the support, Mary. > I think I'll hold off on submitting the wish until others have had a > chance to weigh in though. Makes sense. You did ask for discussion, pro and con. I would find it quite useful. I happen to have three accounts, and a favorite relative occasionally writes to all three. I read him by clicking on the MailTicker, and then I have to hunt the message down, in one of two other inboxes, since that message didn't come in to the account that filters him to his folder. Not a really big deal, but multiplied by several, could get time-consuming. I didn't have time to study your work-around and implement it. I'm dealing with a number of other issues this morning, including a new computer's vagaries. But I copied your post to my Troubleshooting file, so I won't have to do a search here when I'm ready to use it. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Musings on Common Filters and Multiple Accounts
Hi Mary, Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 8:58:34 AM, you wrote: >> Do any of you agree this might be a desirable configuration option? >> And if I entered it as on Ritlabs' Wish List, would you support it? MB> Speaking for myself, Yes, yes, yes! MB> Write the Wish List report, please. Thanks for the support, Mary. I think I'll hold off on submitting the wish until others have had a chance to weigh in though. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Musings on Common Filters and Multiple Accounts
Hello Perry! On Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 7:19 AM, you wrote: > Do any of you agree this might be a desirable configuration option? > And if I entered it as on Ritlabs' Wish List, would you support it? Speaking for myself, Yes, yes, yes! Write the Wish List report, please. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Musings on Common Filters and Multiple Accounts
Hi TBUDL, I have three accounts in The Bat! Normally, when I create filters they apply to the specific account in which they were created. Later when a correspondent sends a message to that account it is filtered properly, assuming I have set the filter up properly. That is the behavior I would anticipate, and it is the behavior I see. All is good. But sometimes that same correspondent sends a message to one of my other accounts. And when that happens, his message is not filtered because the filter was defined, and therefore resides, in another account. Again, that is what I would expect, and The Bat! performs as it should. But I'd like to collect all messages from that same correspondent into one folder in one of my three accounts no matter which account he sent it to, and I'd like to do that automatically with filters. That, it seems to me, is one of the rationales for the use of "common filters." When I highlight a message and choose to create a filter for it, I find that there is a check box on the dialog to "create common filter." Therefore I have the option to create a common filter *from* any account when I'm on a message of the type I want to filter. That's good, I think. I conclude that if I want to filter all messages from a particular correspondent into a folder, regardless of the account to which it is sent, I should create a common filter for incoming messages from that correspondent. So I tested my thinking. I created a common filter for one of my correspondents that moves his messages into the folder of my choice, and it didn't work. Upon investigating the cause, I realized that I had to have the common filter apply to all accounts (an option for which is found under a tab that exists only for common filters). I changed that option and re-tested the filter, and now it works as I had anticipated. Excellent, says I. So now I have a way to create filters that apply to all accounts, and I've solved this particular problem. I wanted to share this musing with you, in the event that you too have a similar need. As I think about this strategy however, the only downside I see is that I must remember to check that "create common filter" checkbox. Unfortunately, remembering isn't one of my strong suits. So it occurs to me that it might be desirable to have the option to make "create common filter" a "sticky" selection, which is off by default but which a user can turn on if she or he knows the consequences and wishes to have The Bat! exhibit that behavior. Also, I think it would be helpful if The Bat! would prompt me when I save a common filter to specify which accounts I want it applied to, again because of the likelihood that I would forget to go to the common filter and specify that option. Do any of you agree this might be a desirable configuration option? And if I entered it as on Ritlabs' Wish List, would you support it? If not, what are the pitfalls you see or reasons why you don't think it is a good idea. Thanks for the benefit of your thoughts. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common Filters
Hello Urban, On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:31:31 +0200 GMT (31/08/2006, 13:31 +0700 GMT), Urban wrote: >> Can somebody please remind me of the file name in which the common >> filters are stored? U> >> Oh, and the folder structure is also in some file, IIRC. account.flb >> or account.flx? U> Take a look at TBUDP. U> http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php?page=Program%20Folders%20and%20Files Thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. Kommt ein Mann in ne Bank: "Haende raus, Geld hoch, ich bin eine Geisel!" - "Gell, Sie wollen's in Schilling?" http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.16 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common Filters
Thursday, August 31, 2006, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Can somebody please remind me of the file name in which the common > filters are stored? > Oh, and the folder structure is also in some file, IIRC. account.flb > or account.flx? Take a look at TBUDP. Short link: http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y10B21AAD Long link: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php?page=Program%20Folders%20and%20Files -- Urban Everything of importance has been said before by somebody who did not discover it. (A.N. Whitehead) Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Common Filters
Hello TBUDL, Can somebody please remind me of the file name in which the common filters are stored? I want to back that file up seperately, it is more important for me than the mails themselves (because the sysad keeps backups of the mails on the server). Oh, and the folder structure is also in some file, IIRC. account.flb or account.flx? Using 3.80.06 in the office. -- Thanks, Thomas. Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple accounts - common filters
Reply to message sent 2/23/2005, @ 12:08:24 (5:08 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Roelof, > For this to work you'll only need to setup a series of common filters > that direct everything to your main account. Cool. I never even knew that common filter option was there in the drop down menu until you mentioned them and made me go hunting for that option. Now... is there any way to copy and paste a bunch of filters at once or am I doomed to do each one separately? Thanks again, -- t'hy'la, ò¸ó Nick Danger Who's hoping this message won't take 18 hours to reach the list. (second sending as first is MIA after 24 hours) [MUA: The Bat! v3.0.2.3 Rush] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple accounts - common filters
Hallo Nick, On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 07:40:56 -0600GMT (23-2-2005, 14:40 +0100, where I live), you wrote: ND> Cool. I never even knew that common filter option was there in the ND> drop down menu until you mentioned them and made me go hunting for ND> that option. It has been there since the beginning of v3 as part of the new filtering system. ND> Now... is there any way to copy and paste a bunch of filters at once ND> or am I doomed to do each one separately? Well, as long as you don't have any common filters and you'd like to move all filters of an account to make them common then there is a shortcut, but otherwise you've got to do them one at a time. To make all filters of an account common, you simply close TB, go to TB's mail directory and move the account.srb from the account directory to the mail directory. BTW When you've upgraded from v2 to v3, you've got to make sure that you don't have any account.srx file left in your account directory, because when you're lacking a .srb the .srx (your v1/v2 filters) is converted to .srb -- Groetjes, Roelof What garlic is to salad, insanity is to art. The Bat! 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpJqI8xIuAYG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple accounts - common filters
Reply to message sent 2/23/2005, @ 12:08:24 (5:08 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Roelof, > For this to work you'll only need to setup a series of common filters > that direct everything to your main account. Cool. I never even knew that common filter option was there in the drop down menu until you mentioned them and made me go hunting for that option. Now... is there any way to copy and paste a bunch of filters at once or am I doomed to do each one separately? Thanks again, -- t'hy'la, ò¸ó Nick Danger Who's hoping this message won't take 18 hours to reach the list. [MUA: The Bat! v3.0.2.3 Rush] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple accounts - common filters
Hallo Nick, On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:08:51 -0600GMT (22-2-2005, 15:08 +0100, where I live), you wrote: ND> I would like to have one main account, but be able to use various ND> e-mail address and any mail coming in to those various addresses end up ND> in the main account and filtered appropriately without having to set ND> up folders in all those "alternate" accounts. That can be done. Provided that you dont mind that all secondary accounts have their own inbox, outbox, sent messages, trash, inbox known, junk and quarantaine folders. The latter three depend on your use of the known filter, spam plug-in and virus plug-in. For this to work you'll only need to setup a series of common filters that direct everything to your main account. Of course you can achieve that also by creating filters for every account, but when you do it with common filters, you've got only set of filters to maintain. -- Groetjes, Roelof This is just one humble opinion, collect the whole series The Bat! 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgp3DpN17kEJC.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Multiple accounts - common filters
Is this possible to do: Have several accounts that all send messages to one account where the messages are then sorted via the filters of the final destination account? Perhaps clearer: I would like to have one main account, but be able to use various e-mail address and any mail coming in to those various addresses end up in the main account and filtered appropriately without having to set up folders in all those "alternate" accounts. Thanks, -- t'hy'la, ò¸ó Nick Danger [MUA: The Bat! v3.0.2.3 Rush] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Common filters not working - is it just me?
> Hello admin, > Tuesday, October 5, 2004, 12:12:27 AM, you wrote: >> Is anyone else finding that Common Filters are not working >> automatically. > Do you mean - they do work when you invoke them manually? Exactly that... > IIRC that > has been fixed in one of the betas after the v3 Ah ha - OK then... > searching like mad why they wouldn't work and forgot to check the > accounts... :-} Yes - that's happened to me - but this time I did remember to check that! Thanks for the reminder though. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common filters not working - is it just me?
Hello admin, Tuesday, October 5, 2004, 12:12:27 AM, you wrote: > Is anyone else finding that Common Filters are not working > automatically. Do you mean - they do work when you invoke them manually? IIRC that has been fixed in one of the betas after the v3 release version, current standing is "Release Candidate 3", so hopefully the bugfix release for the initial v3 will be available in a couple of days. Or do they not work at all? In that case - have you checked the accounts on the "share with..." tab of the properties page? I'm just mentioning it because hat was my fault when I tried common filters, been searching like mad why they wouldn't work and forgot to check the accounts... :-} -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Common filters not working - is it just me?
Is anyone else finding that Common Filters are not working automatically. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can we have "common filters" that work on all new mail?
Hi Moz, > Well, that plus robust importing of unix MBOX files (I just submitted > a bug report after a 500MB mailbox produced about 50 emails that are > bogus. Lines that start with "From" seem to be always treated as > the start of a new email, and one guy keeps starting his messages > with "From what I know..." ;-) That is a common problem to all Unix MBOX importers, not just TB's. Take a look at this URL: http://q.queso.com/discuss/msgReader$1508 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60 ** Scanned by MailScan Content-Security and Anti-Virus Software. Visit http://www.mwti.net for more info on eScan and MailScan. ** Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can we have "common filters" that work on all new mail?
Hi DJR On Sat, 23 Mar 2002 22:23:27 -0800GMT (which was 24/03/2002, 7:23 +0100GMT for me), you wrote: D> Is there a setting that will allow an auto-deletion of messages D> appearing before a specific date? If I wanted to auto delete D> messages saved in a particular folder that are two months old, how D> would I set that up? right-click on the particular folder, select properties, now the bottom option is 'keep messages in base for n days', set the value to 60 (for 2 months), also make sure 'remove old messages' is checked (in the 'on exit'-box). That's it... only thing you have to remember is to compress that folder every once in a while, to clear the messages from the message base... -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zum antworten bitte Lederhosen entfernen * Speelplein Aboe http://www.aboe.zzn.com * If only women came with pulldown menus and online help. Using The Bat! 1.60 on Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Autodeleting old messages (was: Can we have "common filters" that work on all new mail?)
Hello DJR, Sunday, March 24, 2002, 7:23:27 AM, you wrote to TBUDL: D> Hello lists, D> Saturday, March 23, 2002, 6:32:01 PM, you wrote: D> Is there a setting that will allow an auto-deletion of messages D> appearing before a specific date? If I wanted to auto delete messages D> saved in a particular folder that are two months old, how would I set D> that up? Folder properties. Keep messages in base for 60 days On exit Remove old messages -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.60 on Windows 98 version 4,10 Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can we have "common filters" that work on all new mail?
Hello lists, Saturday, March 23, 2002, 6:32:01 PM, you wrote: Is there a setting that will allow an auto-deletion of messages appearing before a specific date? If I wanted to auto delete messages saved in a particular folder that are two months old, how would I set that up? -- Best regards, DJRmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can we have "common filters" that work on all new mail?
Dave said > Quite a few folks, including me, have voiced the > need for the ability to filter inbound mail from different sources > into a common set of folders. Would not the best solution, given > TB!'s account-oriented structure, be to provide for what one might > call 'common-filters', i.e., a set of filters which operate on all > inbounds regardless of account, before the account filters are > invoked? > Or I way out here by myself? :) Not at all. THat's exactly what i'd like to see. Well, that plus robust importing of unix MBOX files (I just submitted a bug report after a 500MB mailbox produced about 50 emails that are bogus. Lines that start with "From" seem to be always treated as the start of a new email, and one guy keeps starting his messages with "From what I know..." ;-) Moz Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
