Re: Filter issue

2009-09-29 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Tuesday 29 September 2009 at 6:33:22 AM, in
mid:795040109.20090929073...@dbnmail.co.za, Roger Phillips wrote:


 Hello MFPA,

 Monday, September 28, 2009, 7:24:04 PM, among other
 things, you wrote:

M I am going mad :( -
 Have  you  put  the  test  filter at the head of the filter queue?  That is
 always  the  best  place  for  testing  as it eliminates the possibility of
 interference by other filters as Marck Pearlstone was saying.


And don't forget common filters vs account filters. As far as I 
remember, common are checked against first - if I have that wrong, 
somebody please shout.


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Re: Filter issue

2009-09-28 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Tom,

am Sonntag, 27. September 2009 um 23:51 schrieben Sie:

 I tried to simplify the filter purely for testing - it's now
 if sender contains nam...@gmail.com
 move to folder  XZY

 I am testing this on one highlighted message via refilter selected
 folder with the relevant boxes ticked. The message is not picked.
 I have cut and pasted the email address to avoid any typo.

Did you ever check, if a previous Filter did match to this Message and
maybe the Option Continue processing with other Filters is not set?

Maybe the Filtering does not come until this Filter for your
Message...

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Re: Filter issue

2009-09-28 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Tom,

@28-Sep-2009, 07:51 +1000 (27-Sep 22:51 here) Tom [T] in
mid:1324329289.20090928075...@sunnysydney.com said to Roger:

... snip
T I tried to simplify the filter purely for testing - it's now
T if sender contains nam...@gmail.com
T move to folder  XZY

T I am testing this on one highlighted message via refilter selected
T folder with the relevant boxes ticked. The message is not picked.
T I have cut and pasted the email address to avoid any typo.

Have you checked the log for that account? The log contains filtering
information and will show which (if any) filters were triggered by
that message. This will show if an earlier filter is matching and
preventing the target filter from seeing the messages.

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Re: Filter issue

2009-09-28 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Sunday 27 September 2009 at 10:51:25 PM, in
mid:1324329289.20090928075...@sunnysydney.com, Tom wrote:



 I am going mad :( -

It gets like that sometimes.


 I tried to simplify the filter purely for testing -
 it's now if sender contains nam...@gmail.com move to
 folder  XZY


Have you ticked the box automatically create if necessary when 
specifying where to move it, just in case?


 I am testing this on one highlighted message via
 refilter selected folder with the relevant boxes
 ticked. The message is not picked. I have cut and
 pasted the email address to avoid any typo.


Is the test filter marked as active?

If a common filter, is it shared with all accounts?

What happens if you right-click the message and test filters?

Have you tried setting up a hot-key combination to test the *actions*
of the filter, in case the issue lies there and not in the filter 
*conditions*?



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Re: Filter issue

2009-09-28 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello MFPA,

Monday, September 28, 2009, 7:24:04 PM, among other things, you wrote:

M I am going mad :( -
Have  you  put  the  test  filter at the head of the filter queue?  That is 
always  the  best  place  for  testing  as it eliminates the possibility of 
interference by other filters as Marck Pearlstone was saying.

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Re: Filter issue

2009-09-27 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Tom,

Saturday, September 26, 2009, 2:13:10 PM, among other things, you wrote:

T Still no luck, tried to change it to
T header field to or cc or bcc and sender contains ... but still
T some messages won't budge. 
It  looks  as  though  something  has perhaps become corrupted.  Why not try
writing a completely new filter from scratch?

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Re: Filter issue

2009-09-27 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Friday 25 September 2009 at 4:55:53 PM, in
mid:632520461.20090925175...@gmx.de, Jens Franik wrote:


 Guten Tag MFPA,

 am Freitag, 25. September 2009 um 16:41 schrieben Sie:

 Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600
 
 Current version is 4.2.10.0

 Error or Truth?


I *am* using The Bat! v4.0.38.

Winver.exe shows my Windows version as 5.1 build 2600 but follows that
with .xpclient.six numbers-four numbers.

RITlabs download page presently shows the current version as 4.2.10 
without the .0 on the end


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Re: Filter issue

2009-09-27 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag MFPA,

am Sonntag, 27. September 2009 um 12:52 schrieben Sie:

 I *am* using The Bat! v4.0.38

That is what i have been wondering about, TNX.

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Re: Filter issue

2009-09-27 Thread Tom

Sunday, September 27, 2009, 4:49:19 PM, you wrote:


 It  looks  as  though  something  has perhaps become corrupted.  Why not try
 writing a completely new filter from scratch?

I am going mad :( -

I tried to simplify the filter purely for testing - it's now
if sender contains nam...@gmail.com
move to folder  XZY

I am testing this on one highlighted message via refilter selected
folder with the relevant boxes ticked. The message is not picked.
I have cut and pasted the email address to avoid any typo.



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Re: Filter issue

2009-09-26 Thread Tom

Saturday, September 26, 2009, 12:41:17 AM, you wrote:

 Hi

 On Friday 25 September 2009 at 12:21:00 AM, in
 mid:415057556.20090924182...@fastmail.fm, Stuart Cuddy wrote:


 Hello Tom, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 5:06:04 PM,
 you wrote:

T I have however tried some radical changes and even
T for these some messages do not move:

T if header contains j@company.com and sender match
T sharyn...@isp.com move to folder ABC

 You may not want to use Match as I think this refers to
 regex.


 I thought matches all as regexp was the only condition that took
 regexps.

 I was also wondering whether match worked if you just included the
 email address or just the name but the message had both. My testing
 shows it does.


Still no luck, tried to change it to
header field to or cc or bcc and sender contains ... but still
some messages won't budge. 



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Re: Filter issue

2009-09-25 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Friday 25 September 2009 at 12:21:00 AM, in
mid:415057556.20090924182...@fastmail.fm, Stuart Cuddy wrote:


 Hello Tom, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 5:06:04 PM,
 you wrote:

T I have however tried some radical changes and even
T for these some messages do not move:

T if header contains j@company.com and sender match
T sharyn...@isp.com move to folder ABC

 You may not want to use Match as I think this refers to
 regex.


I thought matches all as regexp was the only condition that took
regexps.

I was also wondering whether match worked if you just included the
email address or just the name but the message had both. My testing
shows it does.


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Re: Filter issue

2009-09-25 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag MFPA,

am Freitag, 25. September 2009 um 16:41 schrieben Sie:

 Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600  
 
 Current version is 4.2.10.0

Error or Truth?

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Re: Filter issue

2009-09-24 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Tom,

am Donnerstag, 24. September 2009 um 04:38 schrieben Sie:

 I cannot figure out how
 to set the rule so that it works even if the email was sent to y, z,
 a, b and c.

If you do not see the Filter Condition in the To: or Cc: Field, you
have to parse the Headers.

But simply Receipient contains m...@email.adr should do the job in most
cases.

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Re: Filter issue

2009-09-24 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Thursday 24 September 2009 at 3:38:09 AM, in
mid:415846758.20090924123...@sunnysydney.com, Tom wrote:


 I set up a filter to move incoming emails to a special
 account if sender contains xx and recipient contains y.
 This works well if the recipient is only y.  I cannot
 figure out how to set the rule so that it works even if
 the email was sent to y, z, a, b and c.


A few thoughts:-


Is y an email address or a name? If a name, is it stated slightly
differently in the email sent to y, z, a, b and c that does not end up
in the folder you want?

Assuming y is your address, are any of z, a, b or c yours as well?

Is it a common filter or a filter on one account?

Are the messages addressed to y, z, a, b and c coming in through an 
account the filter is active on?

Does the filter have continue processing with other filters 
selected, and if so could a filter further down the list be moving the 
message addressed to y, z, a, b and c back out of the folder your 
filter described above has moved it to?

Does it make any difference if you change the order of the filter
conditions? (recipient contains y and sender contains xx instead of
sender contains xx and recipient contains y)


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Re: Filter issue

2009-09-24 Thread m2gdh
Hiya

T I set up a filter to move incoming emails to a special account if
T sender contains xx and recipient contains y.
T This works well if the recipient is only y.  I cannot figure out how
T to set the rule so that it works even if the
T email was sent to y, z,
T a, b and c.

Assuming I have I  understood you correctly:  it works here  too,

My test filter reads:

Sender contains  fred
AND
Recipient contains  f...@tiscali.co.uk 

[  the recipient field contained at least  15 addresses ]

Is that what you meant ? 
If not can you post your non working filter. 
I had never thought about this before but recipient seems to check both the  
CC:  and  To:  values.

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Re: Filter issue

2009-09-24 Thread Tom

Thursday, September 24, 2009, 11:41:38 PM, you wrote:


 A few thoughts:-

 Is y an email address or a name? If a name, is it stated slightly
 differently in the email sent to y, z, a, b and c that does not end up
 in the folder you want?

 Assuming y is your address, are any of z, a, b or c yours as well?

 Is it a common filter or a filter on one account?

 Are the messages addressed to y, z, a, b and c coming in through an 
 account the filter is active on?

 Does the filter have continue processing with other filters 
 selected, and if so could a filter further down the list be moving the
 message addressed to y, z, a, b and c back out of the folder your 
 filter described above has moved it to?

 Does it make any difference if you change the order of the filter
 conditions? (recipient contains y and sender contains xx instead of
 sender contains xx and recipient contains y)


thanks everyone for their responses.
Ok, here are some additional details:

the exact filter is:
recipient contains j@company.com
and sender contains sharyn
move to folder ABC

however the sender's email address is sharyn...@isp.com

so I suppose it should make no difference with respect to your first
question.

As mentioned it works fine for a single recipient but nothing happens
when the incoming email is as follows:

from Header:

from: sharyn...@isp.com
to: sharyn...@isp.com, j...@company.com, sa...@company.com
cc: j@company.com, some...@someothercompany.com

Question: is cc not considered to be a recipient? What would be the
filter rule in that case?

The filter is active and any previous filter is set to continue
processing.
Haven't tried the last suggestion yet.

I have however tried some radical changes and even for these some
messages do not move:

if header contains j@company.com
and sender match sharyn...@isp.com
move to folder ABC

with the offending email being:

from sharyn...@isp.com
to j@company.com, j...@company.com, sa...@company.com
cc external addresses.

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Re: Filter issue

2009-09-24 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Tom,
Thursday, September 24, 2009, 5:06:04 PM, you wrote:

T I have however tried some radical changes and even for these some
T messages do not move:

T if header contains j@company.com
T and sender match sharyn...@isp.com
T move to folder ABC

You may not want to use Match as I think this refers to regex.

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Filter issue

2009-09-23 Thread Tom

Hello Everyone,

I set up a filter to move incoming emails to a special account if
sender contains xx and recipient contains y.
This works well if the recipient is only y.  I cannot figure out how
to set the rule so that it works even if the email was sent to y, z,
a, b and c.

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Re: Filter issue

2009-09-23 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Tom,

Thursday, September 24, 2009, 4:38:09 AM, among other things, you wrote:

T I set up a filter to move incoming emails to a special account if
T sender contains xx and recipient contains y.
T This works well if the recipient is only y.  I cannot figure out how
T to set the rule so that it works even if the email was sent to y, z,
T a, b and c.
Such  a filter works OK here!

I  found an old message which had multiple addressees in the 'To' field and 
copied  it  to my 'Inbox'. I then set up a filter as you described and used 
the  re-filter command, and the message was moved as the test filter told it 
to do.



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Re: Reply/macro/filter issue

2008-06-26 Thread Tom

Thursday, June 26, 2008, 2:58:14 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Tom,

 Thursday, June 26, 2008, 7:03:25 AM, you wrote:

 So, I either need to amend the salutation manually or go into the
 addressbook to remove the duplicate entry for Paul (it's duplicate as
 the email address is always the same, just the way it appears changes
 with the various prefixes).

 How can the following three email addresses be called same:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To me they look like three distinct email addresses.


Sorry, you are right, my quoting these addresses was incorrect. The address
appears as follows:

_Paul XYZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paul-XYZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I think there was a third version but I cannot find it quickly. The
email address is the same but the way it is being presented prior to
the xxx is different (probably due to the way it is being set up in
Paul's email program and this seems to cause my little issue here.
Hope this makes it clearer


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Re: Reply/macro/filter issue

2008-06-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Tom,

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:33:25 +1000GMT (26-6-2008, 3:33 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

T However each time I receive a new email from the _paul or paul-xyz
T addresses, they also end in my address book as new addresses

In that case just stop adding all addresses to your address book. Or
change your filter that adds those addresses so that it checks whether
the address exists in your AB before adding it.

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Re: Reply/macro/filter issue

2008-06-26 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Tom,

Thursday, June 26, 2008, 3:22:54 AM, you wrote:


T Sorry, you are right, my quoting these addresses was incorrect. The address
T appears as follows:

T _Paul XYZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
T Paul-XYZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]

T I think there was a third version but I cannot find it quickly. The
T email address is the same but the way it is being presented prior to
T the xxx is different (probably due to the way it is being set up in
T Paul's email program and this seems to cause my little issue here.
T Hope this makes it clearer

Unless I'm missing something, which is quite frequently the case, it
looks like you're trying to prevent your replies from including the
dashes or underscores in the reply salutation. If I've guessed
correctly, it looks like this is a job for a properly constructed
RegExp which would automagically trim those characters from your reply
salutation. Unfortunately, I have absolutely no knowledge on how to
construct/use RegExps but there are others on this amazing list who
do.

The only reason I can think of for why someone would include odd
characters in their name is that they might be trying to track the
origins of subsequent spam.

Hope I haven't clouded the issue any further.

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Reply/macro/filter issue

2008-06-25 Thread Tom

Hello Everyone,

I raised this issue before and while I understand the cause now, I
have not yet fully solved the problem.
Here is my problem:

One of my contact is using the same email address @xyztrading.com with
different prefixes (not sure why). So while most of his emails come in
as [EMAIL PROTECTED], some are received as [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have set up my system to reply with a macro along the lines
Dear %ABOFromFName, which should lead to Dear Paul, ...

However each time I receive a new email from the _paul or paul-xyz
addresses, they also end in my address book as new addresses and lead
to the reply to be created as Dear _Paul or Dear Paul-XYZ.
So, I either need to amend the salutation manually or go into the
addressbook to remove the duplicate entry for Paul (it's duplicate as
the email address is always the same, just the way it appears changes
with the various prefixes).
How do I manage this issue on my side without telling Paul to stop
annoying me?

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Re: Reply/macro/filter issue

2008-06-25 Thread Mean Drake
Hello Tom,

Thursday, June 26, 2008, 7:03:25 AM, you wrote:

 So, I either need to amend the salutation manually or go into the
 addressbook to remove the duplicate entry for Paul (it's duplicate as
 the email address is always the same, just the way it appears changes
 with the various prefixes).

How can the following three email addresses be called same:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To me they look like three distinct email addresses.

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