Re: Filter issue
Hi On Tuesday 29 September 2009 at 6:33:22 AM, in mid:795040109.20090929073...@dbnmail.co.za, Roger Phillips wrote: Hello MFPA, Monday, September 28, 2009, 7:24:04 PM, among other things, you wrote: M I am going mad :( - Have you put the test filter at the head of the filter queue? That is always the best place for testing as it eliminates the possibility of interference by other filters as Marck Pearlstone was saying. And don't forget common filters vs account filters. As far as I remember, common are checked against first - if I have that wrong, somebody please shout. -- Best regards MFPA When you're caffeinated, all is right with the world Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Guten Tag Tom, am Sonntag, 27. September 2009 um 23:51 schrieben Sie: I tried to simplify the filter purely for testing - it's now if sender contains nam...@gmail.com move to folder XZY I am testing this on one highlighted message via refilter selected folder with the relevant boxes ticked. The message is not picked. I have cut and pasted the email address to avoid any typo. Did you ever check, if a previous Filter did match to this Message and maybe the Option Continue processing with other Filters is not set? Maybe the Filtering does not come until this Filter for your Message... -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de The Bat! 4.2.10.12 + AntiSpamSniper 3.2.1.5 + Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.2 Language-File-Checksum: 92BB9EE6 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM Debian Lenny + Windows XP @VirtualBox 3.0.6 r52128 non-OSE 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 170 (Common) Folders - about 10 Messages Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Dear Tom, @28-Sep-2009, 07:51 +1000 (27-Sep 22:51 here) Tom [T] in mid:1324329289.20090928075...@sunnysydney.com said to Roger: ... snip T I tried to simplify the filter purely for testing - it's now T if sender contains nam...@gmail.com T move to folder XZY T I am testing this on one highlighted message via refilter selected T folder with the relevant boxes ticked. The message is not picked. T I have cut and pasted the email address to avoid any typo. Have you checked the log for that account? The log contains filtering information and will show which (if any) filters were triggered by that message. This will show if an earlier filter is matching and preventing the target filter from seeing the messages. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v4.2.10.12 on Windows Vista 6.0.6002 Service Pack 2 ' pgpFsgiWMfYLc.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Hi On Sunday 27 September 2009 at 10:51:25 PM, in mid:1324329289.20090928075...@sunnysydney.com, Tom wrote: I am going mad :( - It gets like that sometimes. I tried to simplify the filter purely for testing - it's now if sender contains nam...@gmail.com move to folder XZY Have you ticked the box automatically create if necessary when specifying where to move it, just in case? I am testing this on one highlighted message via refilter selected folder with the relevant boxes ticked. The message is not picked. I have cut and pasted the email address to avoid any typo. Is the test filter marked as active? If a common filter, is it shared with all accounts? What happens if you right-click the message and test filters? Have you tried setting up a hot-key combination to test the *actions* of the filter, in case the issue lies there and not in the filter *conditions*? -- Best regards MFPA Virtual workspace, Virtual Office, Virtual Job Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Hello MFPA, Monday, September 28, 2009, 7:24:04 PM, among other things, you wrote: M I am going mad :( - Have you put the test filter at the head of the filter queue? That is always the best place for testing as it eliminates the possibility of interference by other filters as Marck Pearlstone was saying. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v4.2.10.12 POP3 , on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Hello Tom, Saturday, September 26, 2009, 2:13:10 PM, among other things, you wrote: T Still no luck, tried to change it to T header field to or cc or bcc and sender contains ... but still T some messages won't budge. It looks as though something has perhaps become corrupted. Why not try writing a completely new filter from scratch? -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v4.2.10.12 POP3 , on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Hi On Friday 25 September 2009 at 4:55:53 PM, in mid:632520461.20090925175...@gmx.de, Jens Franik wrote: Guten Tag MFPA, am Freitag, 25. September 2009 um 16:41 schrieben Sie: Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.10.0 Error or Truth? I *am* using The Bat! v4.0.38. Winver.exe shows my Windows version as 5.1 build 2600 but follows that with .xpclient.six numbers-four numbers. RITlabs download page presently shows the current version as 4.2.10 without the .0 on the end -- Best regards MFPA Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana. -- Groucho Marx Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Guten Tag MFPA, am Sonntag, 27. September 2009 um 12:52 schrieben Sie: I *am* using The Bat! v4.0.38 That is what i have been wondering about, TNX. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de The Bat! 4.2.10.12 + AntiSpamSniper 3.2.1.5 + Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.2 Language-File-Checksum: 92BB9EE6 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM Debian Lenny + Windows XP @VirtualBox 3.0.6 r52128 non-OSE 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 170 (Common) Folders - about 10 Messages Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Sunday, September 27, 2009, 4:49:19 PM, you wrote: It looks as though something has perhaps become corrupted. Why not try writing a completely new filter from scratch? I am going mad :( - I tried to simplify the filter purely for testing - it's now if sender contains nam...@gmail.com move to folder XZY I am testing this on one highlighted message via refilter selected folder with the relevant boxes ticked. The message is not picked. I have cut and pasted the email address to avoid any typo. -- Tom using TheBat! 4.2.9.1 on XP Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Saturday, September 26, 2009, 12:41:17 AM, you wrote: Hi On Friday 25 September 2009 at 12:21:00 AM, in mid:415057556.20090924182...@fastmail.fm, Stuart Cuddy wrote: Hello Tom, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 5:06:04 PM, you wrote: T I have however tried some radical changes and even T for these some messages do not move: T if header contains j@company.com and sender match T sharyn...@isp.com move to folder ABC You may not want to use Match as I think this refers to regex. I thought matches all as regexp was the only condition that took regexps. I was also wondering whether match worked if you just included the email address or just the name but the message had both. My testing shows it does. Still no luck, tried to change it to header field to or cc or bcc and sender contains ... but still some messages won't budge. -- Tom using TheBat! 4.2.9.1 on XP Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Hi On Friday 25 September 2009 at 12:21:00 AM, in mid:415057556.20090924182...@fastmail.fm, Stuart Cuddy wrote: Hello Tom, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 5:06:04 PM, you wrote: T I have however tried some radical changes and even T for these some messages do not move: T if header contains j@company.com and sender match T sharyn...@isp.com move to folder ABC You may not want to use Match as I think this refers to regex. I thought matches all as regexp was the only condition that took regexps. I was also wondering whether match worked if you just included the email address or just the name but the message had both. My testing shows it does. -- Best regards MFPA Nothing a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster won't cure! Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Guten Tag MFPA, am Freitag, 25. September 2009 um 16:41 schrieben Sie: Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.10.0 Error or Truth? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de The Bat! 4.2.10.12 + AntiSpamSniper 3.2.1.1 + Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.2 Language-File-Checksum: 92BB9EE6 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM Debian Lenny + Windows XP @VirtualBox 3.0.6 r52128 non-OSE 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 170 (Common) Folders - about 10 Messages Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Guten Tag Tom, am Donnerstag, 24. September 2009 um 04:38 schrieben Sie: I cannot figure out how to set the rule so that it works even if the email was sent to y, z, a, b and c. If you do not see the Filter Condition in the To: or Cc: Field, you have to parse the Headers. But simply Receipient contains m...@email.adr should do the job in most cases. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de The Bat! 4.2.10.12 + AntiSpamSniper 3.2.1.1 + Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.2 Language-File-Checksum: E8E56F88 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM Debian Lenny + Windows XP @VirtualBox 3.0.6 r52128 non-OSE 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 170 (Common) Folders - about 10 Messages Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Hi On Thursday 24 September 2009 at 3:38:09 AM, in mid:415846758.20090924123...@sunnysydney.com, Tom wrote: I set up a filter to move incoming emails to a special account if sender contains xx and recipient contains y. This works well if the recipient is only y. I cannot figure out how to set the rule so that it works even if the email was sent to y, z, a, b and c. A few thoughts:- Is y an email address or a name? If a name, is it stated slightly differently in the email sent to y, z, a, b and c that does not end up in the folder you want? Assuming y is your address, are any of z, a, b or c yours as well? Is it a common filter or a filter on one account? Are the messages addressed to y, z, a, b and c coming in through an account the filter is active on? Does the filter have continue processing with other filters selected, and if so could a filter further down the list be moving the message addressed to y, z, a, b and c back out of the folder your filter described above has moved it to? Does it make any difference if you change the order of the filter conditions? (recipient contains y and sender contains xx instead of sender contains xx and recipient contains y) -- Best regards MFPA Reality is nothing but a collective hunch. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Hiya T I set up a filter to move incoming emails to a special account if T sender contains xx and recipient contains y. T This works well if the recipient is only y. I cannot figure out how T to set the rule so that it works even if the T email was sent to y, z, T a, b and c. Assuming I have I understood you correctly: it works here too, My test filter reads: Sender contains fred AND Recipient contains f...@tiscali.co.uk [ the recipient field contained at least 15 addresses ] Is that what you meant ? If not can you post your non working filter. I had never thought about this before but recipient seems to check both the CC: and To: values. -- Graham *** 7.5: Message scanned prior to sending - no viruses found *** Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Thursday, September 24, 2009, 11:41:38 PM, you wrote: A few thoughts:- Is y an email address or a name? If a name, is it stated slightly differently in the email sent to y, z, a, b and c that does not end up in the folder you want? Assuming y is your address, are any of z, a, b or c yours as well? Is it a common filter or a filter on one account? Are the messages addressed to y, z, a, b and c coming in through an account the filter is active on? Does the filter have continue processing with other filters selected, and if so could a filter further down the list be moving the message addressed to y, z, a, b and c back out of the folder your filter described above has moved it to? Does it make any difference if you change the order of the filter conditions? (recipient contains y and sender contains xx instead of sender contains xx and recipient contains y) thanks everyone for their responses. Ok, here are some additional details: the exact filter is: recipient contains j@company.com and sender contains sharyn move to folder ABC however the sender's email address is sharyn...@isp.com so I suppose it should make no difference with respect to your first question. As mentioned it works fine for a single recipient but nothing happens when the incoming email is as follows: from Header: from: sharyn...@isp.com to: sharyn...@isp.com, j...@company.com, sa...@company.com cc: j@company.com, some...@someothercompany.com Question: is cc not considered to be a recipient? What would be the filter rule in that case? The filter is active and any previous filter is set to continue processing. Haven't tried the last suggestion yet. I have however tried some radical changes and even for these some messages do not move: if header contains j@company.com and sender match sharyn...@isp.com move to folder ABC with the offending email being: from sharyn...@isp.com to j@company.com, j...@company.com, sa...@company.com cc external addresses. stumped... -- Tom using TheBat! 4.2.9.1 on XP Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Hello Tom, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 5:06:04 PM, you wrote: T I have however tried some radical changes and even for these some T messages do not move: T if header contains j@company.com T and sender match sharyn...@isp.com T move to folder ABC You may not want to use Match as I think this refers to regex. -- Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Using The Bat! v4.2.10.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter issue
Hello Everyone, I set up a filter to move incoming emails to a special account if sender contains xx and recipient contains y. This works well if the recipient is only y. I cannot figure out how to set the rule so that it works even if the email was sent to y, z, a, b and c. -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 4.2.9.1 on XP Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Hello Tom, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 4:38:09 AM, among other things, you wrote: T I set up a filter to move incoming emails to a special account if T sender contains xx and recipient contains y. T This works well if the recipient is only y. I cannot figure out how T to set the rule so that it works even if the email was sent to y, z, T a, b and c. Such a filter works OK here! I found an old message which had multiple addressees in the 'To' field and copied it to my 'Inbox'. I then set up a filter as you described and used the re-filter command, and the message was moved as the test filter told it to do. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v4.2.10.12 POP3 , on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply/macro/filter issue
Thursday, June 26, 2008, 2:58:14 PM, you wrote: Hello Tom, Thursday, June 26, 2008, 7:03:25 AM, you wrote: So, I either need to amend the salutation manually or go into the addressbook to remove the duplicate entry for Paul (it's duplicate as the email address is always the same, just the way it appears changes with the various prefixes). How can the following three email addresses be called same: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To me they look like three distinct email addresses. Sorry, you are right, my quoting these addresses was incorrect. The address appears as follows: _Paul XYZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul-XYZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think there was a third version but I cannot find it quickly. The email address is the same but the way it is being presented prior to the xxx is different (probably due to the way it is being set up in Paul's email program and this seems to cause my little issue here. Hope this makes it clearer -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply/macro/filter issue
Hallo Tom, On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:33:25 +1000GMT (26-6-2008, 3:33 +0200, where I live), you wrote: T However each time I receive a new email from the _paul or paul-xyz T addresses, they also end in my address book as new addresses In that case just stop adding all addresses to your address book. Or change your filter that adds those addresses so that it checks whether the address exists in your AB before adding it. -- Groetjes, Roelof Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.24.23 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpriyxLCCOEo.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply/macro/filter issue
Hello Tom, Thursday, June 26, 2008, 3:22:54 AM, you wrote: T Sorry, you are right, my quoting these addresses was incorrect. The address T appears as follows: T _Paul XYZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] T Paul-XYZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] T I think there was a third version but I cannot find it quickly. The T email address is the same but the way it is being presented prior to T the xxx is different (probably due to the way it is being set up in T Paul's email program and this seems to cause my little issue here. T Hope this makes it clearer Unless I'm missing something, which is quite frequently the case, it looks like you're trying to prevent your replies from including the dashes or underscores in the reply salutation. If I've guessed correctly, it looks like this is a job for a properly constructed RegExp which would automagically trim those characters from your reply salutation. Unfortunately, I have absolutely no knowledge on how to construct/use RegExps but there are others on this amazing list who do. The only reason I can think of for why someone would include odd characters in their name is that they might be trying to track the origins of subsequent spam. Hope I haven't clouded the issue any further. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now running TB! v3.99.3 from Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Reply/macro/filter issue
Hello Everyone, I raised this issue before and while I understand the cause now, I have not yet fully solved the problem. Here is my problem: One of my contact is using the same email address @xyztrading.com with different prefixes (not sure why). So while most of his emails come in as [EMAIL PROTECTED], some are received as [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have set up my system to reply with a macro along the lines Dear %ABOFromFName, which should lead to Dear Paul, ... However each time I receive a new email from the _paul or paul-xyz addresses, they also end in my address book as new addresses and lead to the reply to be created as Dear _Paul or Dear Paul-XYZ. So, I either need to amend the salutation manually or go into the addressbook to remove the duplicate entry for Paul (it's duplicate as the email address is always the same, just the way it appears changes with the various prefixes). How do I manage this issue on my side without telling Paul to stop annoying me? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply/macro/filter issue
Hello Tom, Thursday, June 26, 2008, 7:03:25 AM, you wrote: So, I either need to amend the salutation manually or go into the addressbook to remove the duplicate entry for Paul (it's duplicate as the email address is always the same, just the way it appears changes with the various prefixes). How can the following three email addresses be called same: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To me they look like three distinct email addresses. -- Best regards, Mean Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html