Re: Formatting

2020-05-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jack,

On Sat, 2 May 2020 15:14:31 -0500 GMT (03-May-20, 3:14 +0700 GMT),
Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

DE Try Ctrl + shift + V

>>> I've run into the same problem as Tom and that does seem to work. May I ask
>>> where in TB you found that?

TF>> When you want to paste, right-click on where you want to paste to. In
TF>> the context menu, you have Paste (which uses the original font and
TF>> formating, same as ctril-V) and you have Paste as Plaintext
TF>> (shift-crtl-V).

> Doh! Yes, of course. I just never noticed the keyboard equivalent in the 
> context
> menu before. Tunnel vision.

> Anyway, thanks for the reply and the original tip.

You're most welcome, and I'm glad I could be of help.

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Re: Formatting

2020-05-02 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Thomas,

On Friday, May 1, 2020 you wrote:

TF> Hello Jack,

TF> On Fri, 1 May 2020 11:16:56 -0500 GMT (01-May-20, 23:16 +0700 GMT),
TF> Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

DE>>> Try Ctrl + shift + V

>> I've run into the same problem as Tom and that does seem to work. May I ask
>> where in TB you found that?

TF> When you want to paste, right-click on where you want to paste to. In
TF> the context menu, you have Paste (which uses the original font and
TF> formating, same as ctril-V) and you have Paste as Plaintext
TF> (shift-crtl-V).

Doh! Yes, of course. I just never noticed the keyboard equivalent in the context
menu before. Tunnel vision.

Anyway, thanks for the reply and the original tip.

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Re: Formatting

2020-05-01 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jack,

On Fri, 1 May 2020 11:16:56 -0500 GMT (01-May-20, 23:16 +0700 GMT),
Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

DE>> Try Ctrl + shift + V

> I've run into the same problem as Tom and that does seem to work. May I ask
> where in TB you found that?

When you want to paste, right-click on where you want to paste to. In
the context menu, you have Paste (which uses the original font and
formating, same as ctril-V) and you have Paste as Plaintext
(shift-crtl-V).

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Re: Formatting

2020-05-01 Thread Tom
Saturday, May 2, 2020, 12:10:16 AM, you wrote:

> Salutation Tom,

> Try Ctrl + shift + V 

Hi David,

thank you very much for this tip - 
just what I was looking for - works like a charm.


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Re: Formatting

2020-05-01 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello David,

On Friday, May 1, 2020 you wrote:

DE> Salutation Tom,

DE> Try Ctrl + shift + V

I've run into the same problem as Tom and that does seem to work. May I ask
where in TB you found that?

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Formatting

2020-05-01 Thread Tom
Hello Everyone,

is there a setting that I can use so that TB will keep the formatting of the 
email compose window?  

I am using a specific font size and font for my emails but often copy & paste 
details from other systems into the
emails. Some of these are very small fonts, so each time I need to go in and 
manually change this to match the rest
of the text. See the following example which looks silly but also affects the 
formatting of the following text. So, I 
am hoping for a feature like in excel that states that formatting of the 
destination sheet is being kept.

Example: CN101402 for the copy and paste, suddenly much smaller text and not 
only for the copied part but also for whatever I write subsequently
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Re: Change reply formatting for HTML email

2014-03-19 Thread Paul Meathrel
Hi Thomas,

Tuesday, March 18, 2014, 1:30:35 PM, you wrote:
 Yes. You can drag it to become smaller. I do that on a regular basis.

Thanks that is useful, it is not very attractive really but making it smaller 
helps.

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Re: Change reply formatting for HTML email

2014-03-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Paul,

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 19:49:28 + GMT (18-Mar-14, 02:49 +0700 GMT),
Paul Meathrel wrote:

 I am using a HTML reply email template. However the blue bar which
 appears alongside the quoted message is rather thick and unsightly -
 is there any way to change this please?

Yes. You can drag it to become smaller. I do that on a regular basis.

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Change reply formatting for HTML email

2014-03-17 Thread Paul Meathrel
Hi all,

I am using a HTML reply email template. However the blue bar which appears 
alongside the quoted message is rather thick and unsightly - is there any way 
to change this please?

thanks


Paul

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Re: Change reply formatting for HTML email

2014-03-17 Thread Rick
I am using a HTML reply email template. However the blue bar which appears 
alongside the quoted message is rather thick and unsightly - is there any way 
to change this please?

The answer is no, but if you change the email to plain text then copy the 
quoted text and switch back without changing anything, you can paste that into 
the message. I would like to see an option to select the   method of 
quoting in all message editors

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Re[2]: Change reply formatting for HTML email

2014-03-17 Thread Chris Wilson

Hello Rick,

On Monday, March 17, 2014,  you wrote:

I am using a HTML reply email template. However the blue bar which appears 
alongside the quoted message is rather thick and unsightly - is there any way 
to change this please?

 The answer is no, but if you change the email to plain text then
 copy the quoted text and switch back without changing anything, you
 can paste that into the message. I would like to see an option to
 select the   method of quoting in all message editors




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Re[2]: formatting

2011-12-22 Thread Achdut18
Hello Jack,
Hi, Jack.

On Friday, December 16, 2011, 3:14:03 PM, in response to my question:

A Is it possible to have left and right margins with hanging indents,
A etc. when sending an e-mail that is not plain text?   One can
A format an e-mail in Outlook, just as if they were writing in Word.
A However, I can't figure out how to do that when sending an HTML post
A via The Bat.  Indeed, when I copied text from a Word Document into an
A e-mail, I lost inset margins.

You wrote:

JSL Keeping in mind that I have no idea of what I speak, is it
JSL possible that any formatting codes imbedded in a Word
JSL document might not be understood by TB!? Or have I just
JSL totally misunderstood what you're asking?

I was not totally clear. I understand that TB might not be able to
understand embedded codes in Word. What I wanted to know is this: Is
it possible to create in The Bat, inset margins, true hanging indents
and right-hand margins?  This is a functionality present in Outlook.
I wanted to know if it was possible to have this functionality in The
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Re: formatting

2011-12-16 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Avi,

On Friday, December 16, 2011 you wrote:

A Hi, all,

A Is it possible to have left and right margins with hanging indents,
A etc. when sending an e-mail that is not plain text?   One can
A format an e-mail in Outlook, just as if they were writing in Word.
A However, I can't figure out how to do that when sending an HTML post
A via The Bat.  Indeed, when I copied text from a Word Document into an
A e-mail, I lost inset margins.

Keeping in mind that I have no idea of what I speak, is it
possible that any formatting codes imbedded in a Word
document might not be understood by TB!? Or have I just
totally misunderstood what you're asking?

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formatting

2011-12-15 Thread Achdut18
Hi, all,

Is it possible to have left and right margins with hanging indents,
etc. when sending an e-mail that is not plain text?   One can
format an e-mail in Outlook, just as if they were writing in Word.
However, I can't figure out how to do that when sending an HTML post
via The Bat.  Indeed, when I copied text from a Word Document into an
e-mail, I lost inset margins.

Thanks.

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Forward formatting

2011-04-22 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings Bats!,

We get email notification of most of our utility bills which
are mailed to my wife's email address.  I have a filter on
her laptop machine which automatically forwards all these
notifications to my desktop computer.  This works just fine
for all notifications except one which comes to her nicely
formatted in the form of a table containing the information.
Unfortunately, the forward which I receive on my desktop is
no longer formatted as she received it.  I receive the
forward from her as simply text, no formatting (no table).
As a consequence it's difficult to match the information to
the column headers because the information is no longer in
table form.

Any ideas as to why this would be and what, if anything can
be done about it?

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Re: Forward formatting

2011-04-22 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jack,

On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 08:27:15 -0500GMT (22-4-2011, 15:27 , where I
live), you wrote:

JSL Any ideas as to why this would be and what, if anything can
JSL be done about it?

I  guess  it  has something to do with you e-mail preferences. Without
altering  those the solution would be to forward the message as a mime
attachment, that's a simple checkmark in your filter action...

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Re: Forward formatting

2011-04-22 Thread Stuart
Hello Jack,
Friday, April 22, 2011, 8:27:15 AM, you wrote:

 Any ideas as to why this would be and what, if anything can
 be done about it?

Have you tried redirecting instead. It should not alter the original.

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Re: Forward formatting

2011-04-22 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Stuart,

On Friday, April 22, 2011 you wrote:

S Hello Jack,
S Friday, April 22, 2011, 8:27:15 AM, you wrote:

 Any ideas as to why this would be and what, if anything can
 be done about it?

S Have you tried redirecting instead. It should not alter the original.

Occam's razor (perhaps erroneously) comes to mind.  I tried
your suggestion Stuart because it seemed to me to be the
easiest thing to try and it worked!

Many thanks for your and Roelof's suggestions.  I love this
list.

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Formatting margins when composing message

2009-11-04 Thread Avram Sacks
Is it possible to format a message in such a way as to prevent lines of text
from extending the entire width of a wide screen?  When composing a message
as a text message, this is not an issue.  The line is apparently limited to
a certain number of characters.  However, then composing in HTML or
HTML/text, the line, on the screen, will extend the entire 24 inch width of
the screen, which makes it difficult for the one writing the message to
read. Is there a way, when composing in HTML or HTML/text, to limit the
width of a line during composition?  By the way, reducing the size of the
window doesn't work, as it then necessitates use of the scroll bar at the
bottom to see the entire line.

Thanks for any help you can offer.

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Re: HTML formatting problem

2009-06-13 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Lawrence,

On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 10:09:29 -0500 GMT (03/Jun/09, 22:09 +0700 GMT),
Lawrence Johnson wrote:

LJ The monthly newsletter I receive from my township has some formatting
LJ problem's in TB! I verified that the HTML displays perfectly in a real
LJ browser. I also imported the email message into Mozilla Thunderbird
LJ where it also displayed just fine. I submitted a bug report using the
LJ link at the RitLabs Web site, but received no acknowledgment and fear
LJ that my submission may have disappeared down a sinkhole.

Please send the complete URL of the bug report. I'll check it out.

LJ The HTML is not too large so I can easily forward the email or
LJ attach the HTML as file to anyone in support who can take a look
LJ at it.

I'm not sure this list accepts attachments. Please send the mail to me
via the list, and if that doesn't work, by PM.


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HTML formatting problem

2009-06-03 Thread Lawrence Johnson
The monthly newsletter I receive from my township has some formatting
problem's in TB! I verified that the HTML displays perfectly in a real
browser. I also imported the email message into Mozilla Thunderbird
where it also displayed just fine. I submitted a bug report using the
link at the RitLabs Web site, but received no acknowledgment and fear
that my submission may have disappeared down a sinkhole. The HTML is
not too large so I can easily forward the email or attach the HTML as
file to anyone in support who can take a look at it.

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Re: Formatting time with timezone

2006-05-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Chris,

On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:45:06 -0400GMT (26-5-2006, 4:45 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

C I was just looking at the help page on time formatting, and I noticed
C that there is no formatting character for the timezone. Am I missing
C it, or is it just not there.

AFAIK There isn't any option to format the timezone.
What is it that you're trying to achieve?

You can show your own timezone with the %XMP_TimeBias macro from the
Extended Macro Plugin that can be downloaded as xmp.rar from
www.gaijin.at or from the Ritlabs site 
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download_plugins.php

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Formatting time with timezone

2006-05-25 Thread Chris

I was just looking at the help page on time formatting, and I noticed
that there is no formatting character for the timezone. Am I missing
it, or is it just not there.

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Formatting incomming messages

2005-01-28 Thread Sergio Nicosia
Hi,
I want to make a filter that takes the incomming
message and find a string and delete it. Is for a
discussion list where each message have about 8 lines
of repetitive text. How exactly do this? I know that I
have to use regular expressions, but how?
Thanks and sorry for my english.

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Re: Formatting incomming messages

2005-01-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Sergio,

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:36:48 -0300 (ART)GMT (28-1-2005, 13:36 +0100,
where I live), you wrote:

SN I want to make a filter that takes the incomming
SN message and find a string and delete it. Is for a

You can't do that with TB as it doesn't alter incoming messages.

The only way around that is to export the message with a template that
keeps the original headers and text, with the exception of your
repetitive text. As the next action in that filter you need to delete
the message (not the exported file, but the one in your message base)
and finally you need to import your exported text.
As importing is no filter action, you need to start TB as an external
program in your filter with the /import parameter (look into the help
file for more info)

I don't know the real nature of your problem, is the repetitive text
annoying to you or is it the fact that you have to delete it when you
quote it? The latter can be remedied with some regexp in your quote
template.

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Mod: Cut mark (was: Formatting incomming messages)

2005-01-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Sergio,

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:36:48 -0300 (ART)GMT (28-1-2005, 13:36 +0100,
where I live), you wrote:

SN Thanks and sorry for my english.

SN Javier
SN Mar del Plata
SN Argentina

moderator
Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not
just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have
instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Sergio.

  '

Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists
of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line.
This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without
the signature and list footers since everything below and including
the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting.

You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in
your templates.

Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any
difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being
courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added
to your signature by the list server.

To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of
private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you
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How to ensure line formatting in quick templates?

2004-07-14 Thread Costas Papadopoulos
Hello,

How  can  I  ensure  that the following entry in a quick template will
appear on a single line in the message where I use it?

%SetHeader(X-Archive,expiry=0)Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION on
%WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build%
%WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION

Also, what is the meaning of the %- characters that I sometimes see in
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Re: How to ensure line formatting in quick templates?

2004-07-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Costas,

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:56:39 +0300GMT (14-7-2004, 19:56 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

CP How  can  I  ensure  that the following entry in a quick template will
CP appear on a single line in the message where I use it?

CP %SetHeader(X-Archive,expiry=0)Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION on
CP %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME
CP %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build%
CP %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION

You could set it at one single line in the QT, since the text it
generates is so short that it won't come on multiple lines

CP Also, what is the meaning of the %- characters that I sometimes see in
CP quick templates?

The meaning of the %- macro is that the end of line character
immediately after the macro will be forgotten by the editor, so this:
Roe%-
lof O%-
tt%-
en
Will result in this:
Roelof Otten
Most often this is done to enhance the readability

So the macro you proposed could be written as:
%SetHeader(X-Archive,expiry=0)%-
Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION on %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME 
%WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build% %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION
Thus Splitting it in a distinct header part of the template that
doesn't have any text implications for the message body, since leaves
no trail whatsoever. And a text part that inserts some numbers.

Of course you could break up that latter sentence into two or more
parts, would give something like this:
%SetHeader(X-Archive,expiry=0)%-
Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION on %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %-
%WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build% %-
%WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION
This would give the same result as the previous template, but I think
the readability diminishes.


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Re: How to ensure line formatting in quick templates?

2004-07-14 Thread Costas Papadopoulos
 You could set it at one single line in the QT, since the text it
 generates is so short that it won't come on multiple lines

Strangely, in my original QT it would wrap around in my message when I
tried  it.  However,  when I copied and pasted your version into my QT
replacing what I had, it works as it should.

Anyway, thank you for solving it for me.

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Re: Table formatting

2004-07-05 Thread Allister Jenks
Monday, July 5, 2004, 2:37:41 AM, Kevin wrote:

KA I understand what you are saying. My only point was that (1)TB is not
KA designed to be a graphic HTML editor. It has some basic tools and that
KA is it. (2) For fancier work, an external (not just MS Office
KA components) program will be necessary. Whether one chooses to use
KA Word, Excel, Open Office, Star Office or something else isn't the
KA point. I, for one, am not going to write HTML to facilitate table
KA design in TB.

Fair enough that TB! is nothing more than basic, and the ability to cut
and paste externally preparted HTML is a good feature.

My point was that Office is a less than ideal choice. But then if it
works for you, I see no reason you shouldn't use it.  Just be aware that
Office is as much an HTML editor by design as TB!.

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Re: Table formatting

2004-07-05 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Monday, July 5, 2004, 7:50:39 AM, Allister Jenks wrote:

 My point was that Office is a less than ideal choice. But then if it
 works for you, I see no reason you shouldn't use it.  Just be aware that
 Office is as much an HTML editor by design as TB!.

This reminds me of the following, which was posted by Thomas on TBOT
back in the mists of time:

On Friday, August 2, 2002, 7:46:43 PM, Thomas F. wrote:

 FAQ on the web page developers' site:

 Q: How do I protect my work so that people cannot copy the code?

 A: You can't. But if you use FrontPage, nobody will *want* to copy it.

Insert your favourite Office application in place of FrontPage. :-)


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Re: Table formatting

2004-07-05 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi Julian Beach (Lists)

-
On Mon, 5 Jul 2004, at 08:50:53 [GMT +0100] (which was 12:50 AM where
I live) you wrote:
snip

 FAQ on the web page developers' site:

 Q: How do I protect my work so that people cannot copy the code?

 A: You can't. But if you use FrontPage, nobody will *want* to copy it.

 Insert your favourite Office application in place of FrontPage. :-)


 Julian

See, there you go. MS Office is safe to use...   ;-)

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Re: Table formatting

2004-07-04 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi Allister Jenks

-
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004, at 16:12:33 [GMT +1200] (which was 9:12 PM where I
live) you wrote:
 Sunday, July 4, 2004, 10:33:11 AM, Kevin wrote:

snip

 OK, I'm being a bit of a purist, but I feel in good company considering
 the extensive anti-HTML email threads of times gone by.

snip

snip

 And yes, I know the two pages look different, but with less code I
 solved the original poster's problem and if one were fussy about the
 width then a simple ;width:568px added to the TABLE style would fix
 the only fundamental difference (actually, *I* think mine looks better
 anyway).

 That's my concern.

I understand what you are saying. My only point was that (1)TB is not
designed to be a graphic HTML editor. It has some basic tools and that
is it. (2) For fancier work, an external (not just MS Office
components) program will be necessary. Whether one chooses to use
Word, Excel, Open Office, Star Office or something else isn't the
point. I, for one, am not going to write HTML to facilitate table
design in TB.

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Table formatting

2004-07-03 Thread Costas Papadopoulos
Hello,

Although I only use HTML formatted messages to the extent of less than
1%,  I'm  wondering  if  there is a way to change the Table formatting
that  is  provided  by The Bat. How can one change either the color of
the  table  borders  or  the  style (a single line instead of a double
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Re: Table formatting

2004-07-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Costas,

On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 17:21:28 +0300 GMT (03/07/2004, 21:21 +0700 GMT),
Costas Papadopoulos wrote:

CP Although I only use HTML formatted messages to the extent of less than
CP 1%,  I'm  wondering  if  there is a way to change the Table formatting
CP that  is  provided  by The Bat. How can one change either the color of
CP the  table  borders  or  the  style (a single line instead of a double
CP line).

I couldn't find an option for that either.

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Re: Table formatting

2004-07-03 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi Costas Papadopoulos

-
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, at 17:21:28 [GMT +0300] (which was 7:21 AM where I
live) you wrote:
 Hello,

 Although I only use HTML formatted messages to the extent of less than
 1%,  I'm  wondering  if  there is a way to change the Table formatting
 that  is  provided  by The Bat. How can one change either the color of
 the  table  borders  or  the  style (a single line instead of a double
 line).

I couldn't find anything. I think if you want to do fancy table
formatting and manipulation, you'll have to import something you
created with another application (i.e. Excel, Word, etc.)
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Re: Table formatting

2004-07-03 Thread Costas Papadopoulos
Hello Thomas,

Saturday, July 3, 2004, 6:59:19 PM, you wrote (possibly edited):
 I couldn't find an option for that either.

Thanks. It's no serious problem for me. However, I think it's somewhat
restricting  for  people  who  would like to use this feature in their
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Re: Table formatting

2004-07-03 Thread Allister Jenks
Sunday, July 4, 2004, 4:19:03 AM, Kevin wrote:

 How can one change either the color of the table borders or the style
 (a single line instead of a double line).

KA you'll have to import something you created with another application
KA (i.e. Excel, Word, etc.)

Ouch! That could be adding fuel to the fire. I do not recommend using
Office to create HTML.

Unfortunately I don't seem to have a help file present(!), but if there
is a way of getting to the HTML source then it would be relatively
straightforward modify the opening TABLE tag.

TABLE style=border:solid red

That said, I cannot see how to get at the HTML source.

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Re: Table formatting

2004-07-03 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi Allister Jenks

-
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004, at 10:16:15 [GMT +1200] (which was 3:16 PM where I
live) you wrote:
 Sunday, July 4, 2004, 4:19:03 AM, Kevin wrote:

 How can one change either the color of the table borders or the style
 (a single line instead of a double line).

KA you'll have to import something you created with another application
KA (i.e. Excel, Word, etc.)

 Ouch! That could be adding fuel to the fire. I do not recommend using
 Office to create HTML.

snip

The original poster was working with HTML anyway. At that point there
is no harm using an external application to copy a table in-line. Tens
of millions of people use it this way (including myself) without
difficulty.

What exactly is your consern?


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Re: Table formatting

2004-07-03 Thread Allister Jenks
Sunday, July 4, 2004, 10:33:11 AM, Kevin wrote:

KA The original poster was working with HTML anyway. At that point there
KA is no harm using an external application to copy a table in-line. Tens
KA of millions of people use it this way (including myself) without
KA difficulty.

KA What exactly is your consern?

OK, I'm being a bit of a purist, but I feel in good company considering
the extensive anti-HTML email threads of times gone by.

I just think this:

!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd;
HTML
HEAD
META HTTP-EQUIV=Content-Type CONTENT=text/html; charset=UTF-8
TITLETitle/TITLE
STYLE type=text/cssTABLE{border-collapse:collapse} TD{border:1px 
solid;padding:1em;width:50%}/STYLE
/HEAD
BODY
TABLE
TRTDCell 1/TDTDCell 2/TD/TR
TRTDCell 3/TDTDCell 4/TD/TR
/TABLE
/BODY/HTML

is better than this:

HTML
HEAD
META HTTP-EQUIV=Content-Type CONTENT=text/html; charset=windows-1252
META NAME=Generator CONTENT=Microsoft Word 97
TITLECell 1/TITLE
/HEAD
BODY

TABLE BORDER CELLSPACING=1 CELLPADDING=7 WIDTH=568
TRTD WIDTH=50% VALIGN=TOP
FONT SIZE=2PCell 1/FONT/TD
TD WIDTH=50% VALIGN=TOP
FONT SIZE=2PCell 2/FONT/TD
/TR
TRTD WIDTH=50% VALIGN=TOP
FONT SIZE=2PCell 3/FONT/TD
TD WIDTH=50% VALIGN=TOP
FONT SIZE=2PCell 4/FONT/TD
/TR
/TABLE

FONT SIZE=2/FONT/BODY
/HTML

The former was hand coded by me and validates 100% (and that's against
the Strict DTD). The latter was created in Word by starting a brand new
document, creating a 2 x 2 table and entering the cell contents. I then
immediately saved as HTML. Aside from taking an extra 100 bytes or so,
it has 2 types of error when validated and specifies a Windows character
set depite only containing 7 standard ASCII characters in its output.
Oh, and those errors are against the transitional DTD - which is far
more relaxed.  Anyone using FONT tags today should be taken out into the
woods and sh(...own the correct way).

And yes, I know the two pages look different, but with less code I
solved the original poster's problem and if one were fussy about the
width then a simple ;width:568px added to the TABLE style would fix
the only fundamental difference (actually, *I* think mine looks better
anyway).

That's my concern.

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RTF formatting

2003-07-08 Thread Lawrence Johnson
Whats the latest on the oft requested ability to format outgoing mail
messages?

It would be great to even just embolden, underline or italicize.

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Re: RTF formatting

2003-07-08 Thread MAU
Hello Lawrence,

 It would be great to even just embolden, underline or italicize.

That wheel is already invented. A friend of mine uses it all the time
and I do every now and then. Use MS Word instead of TB's editor and
compose your message with the font sizes, colours and highlights of your
preference. Even include images and graphics if you wish (my friend
includes his company's logo), etc., etc.

When ready, select File/Send To/Mail Recipient (as attachment) and
voilá, TB's editor opens now for you to included e-mail address of the
recipient and Subject and allow you to click Send.

And guess what! The recipients will see the text colours, fonts, etc.
that you have selected even if they do not use TB as an e-mail client.

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Re[2]: RTF formatting

2003-07-08 Thread Lawrence Johnson
Hello Mark,

Tuesday, July 8, 2003, 9:25:46 AM, you wrote:


MP Hello Lawrence,

MP Tuesday, July 8, 2003, 3:33:28 PM, you wrote:

LJ Whats the latest on the oft requested ability to format outgoing mail
LJ messages?

LJ It would be great to even just embolden, underline or italicize.

MP Do you mean this, this and that?  :-)

MP I hope you can read it as it is intended...



Yes, it appears correctly.

TB! displays formatted text correctly, but I presumed that it was
still operating in the What You Type Is What You Get mode.  Were you
able to do this with TB! or did you have to go to some external
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Re: RTF formatting

2003-07-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Lawrence,

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:33:28 -0500 GMT (08/07/03, 20:33 +0700 GMT),
Lawrence Johnson wrote:

 Whats the latest on the oft requested ability to format outgoing mail
 messages?

 It would be great to even just embolden, underline or italicize.

The latest beta series has an HTML editor in addition to the one we
are using. So it should be safe to say that it will appear in the next
release version.

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Message formatting

2003-02-02 Thread mm Meister
Hi Bats,

  I was sending some emails yesterday where I could not seem to format
  the text. No amount of pressing Alt+L would fix the paragraph,
  whether the text was actually selected or the cursor was only in the
  long line. Only first centering all the text, then going back and
  doing Alt+L worked.

  Can anyone tell what could have happened?

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editor: Paragraph formatting

2002-06-18 Thread Michael Fross


Wow, Daan. You have captured exactly the issues I have with
autoformating. I frequently use ALT-L to reformat. Don't know how to
do it for the entire message. And can't quickly zoom through the
message and reformat.

I didn't notice a reply to this in the digest I get, but does anyone
have any ideas?  I would really help me out as well.

Loving the bat.

Frosty



Msg: #20 in digest Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 14:53:34 +0200
From: Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: editor: Paragraph formatting


Hi Group,

I frequently use Alt-L to reformat a paragraph that I am writing in
the editor.

Quite often, I want to reformat all paragraphs at once. Or all
paragraphs that I have selected with the mouse. I can't find a way to
do that, though. When I mark the paragraphs and then press Alt-L, all
the paragraphs are thrown together into big one illegible blob. I
don't want that - all paragraphs should remain separated by an empty
line, but each paragraph should be individually reformatted. Any
ideas?

btw, it would be very helpful if after the reformatting, the cursor
would jump to the start of the next paragraph. That way you could
quickly reformat your whole message simply by pressing Alt-L a few
times.

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Re: editor: Paragraph formatting

2002-06-18 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Daniel,

On Monday, June 17, 2002 at 14:53 GMT +0200, a creature mimicking
Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] [DVR] wrote:

DVR Quite often, I want to reformat all paragraphs at once. Or all
DVR paragraphs that I have selected with the mouse. I can't find a
DVR way to do that, though.

Well, it isn't exactly the solution you asked for, but you can use a
quick template to approximate the job.  You actually need two quick
templates:

[QT wrap]
%COMMENT=%CLIPBOARD%-
%QINCLUDE=wrap2
%COMMENT=
[End]

[QT wrap2]
%IF:'%-
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is-m)[^\n]+%-
%REGEXPMATCH=%COMMENT''':'%-
%-
%WRAPPED=_%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is-m)^(.*?)(\n((\w{0,5}(\\s*)+)?\n){1,}(.*)$|\z)%-
%-%-%-%-%-%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%COMMENT%-
%-%-%-%-%-%SUBPATT=1_
%-
%COMMENT=_%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is-m)^.*?(\n((\w{0,5}(\\s*)+)?\n){1,}(.*)$|\z)%-
%-%-%-%-%-%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%COMMENT%-
%-%-%-%-%-%SUBPATT=5_
%-
%QINCLUDE=wrap2'
[End]

Note: I would have just posted the link to the original version* in the
archive, but these templates have been updated to work properly with
the current TB release (1.60q).
* http://www.mail-archive.com/tbtech@thebat.dutaint.com/msg01525.html

So with this set of templates, you'd select the paragraphs to be
reformatted, press ctrl-x, type wrap (without the quotes) then
ctrl-space.  That's it.  Note that this template system will also
work on quoted text. 

DVR When I mark the paragraphs and then press Alt-L, all the
DVR paragraphs are thrown together into big one illegible blob.

Yes, but while this may seem like a nuisance, there is a benefit.
When you select text then press alt-L, TB assumes that the
selected text is one paragraph.  TB *only* reformats those lines.
That means that if you want to reformat one entry in a list, you can
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Re[2]: Reply formatting habits (was: Easier spam filtering)

2002-05-15 Thread Mitja Perko

Hello Jan,

   Select the text you want  F4.

Nice... I have not seen this. Shift-F4 is nice too. You never stop
learning :).

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Reply formatting habits (was: Easier spam filtering)

2002-05-14 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Mitja,

@14 May 2002, 12:30:19 +0200 (11:30 UK time) Mitja Perko wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You can also try free SpamWeasel. Very nice program.

moderator
Please trim your quotes to simply provide context for your replies.
This message was a good example of over quoting.

Thank you.
/moderator

I will say this once again, since I was argued with the last time and
the problem persists:

One major cause of over-quoting is top quoting - typing your reply
at the top of a message. IMO this is a) lazy and b) 80% of exponents
of this method of reply leave the original quoted text unadulterated
below their sign off.

Top quoting creates non-conversational, hard to follow responses.
There's no rule against it, but I'd like to discourage it as a bad
habit.

*Much* better is the format:
___
 .. specific question snipped from original ...

Your answer

 ... Someone else's trimmed point ...

 issue raised

Your comment.
¯¯¯
This makes replies *so* much more legible and conversations suddenly
make sense.

Here's what your reply *should* have looked like:
___
(reply pre-amble)

 ... I used spam-killer for a while and it was quite effective.

You can also try free SpamWeasel. Very nice program.

(signature)
¯¯¯

Much tidier.

This point is not really for debate or defensive rebuff - more for
quiet consideration in the privacy of your own Inbox. The exponents of
top-quoting have had their say and the bad habits that arise from that
method persist. I'd like to see messages on this list follow higher
standards of legibility and consideration.

Thanks for listening.

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Re: Reply formatting habits (was: Easier spam filtering)

2002-05-14 Thread Mitja Perko

 moderator
 Please trim your quotes to simply provide context for your replies.
 This message was a good example of over quoting.

 Thank you.
 /moderator

I apologize. I usually quote the message like you have seen so that
recipient can see what is it about and write at the top. In this case
I just hit reply, wrote it and sent it. Can TB! help with this? Is it
possible to trim the text?

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Re: Reply formatting habits (was: Easier spam filtering)

2002-05-14 Thread David Elliott

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Hail Mitja

On 14 May 2002 at 19:49:21 +0200 (which was 18:49 where I live) Mitja Perko
thoughtfully wrote the following

 I apologize. I usually quote the message like you have seen so that
 recipient can see what is it about and write at the top. In this case
 I just hit reply, wrote it and sent it. Can TB! help with this? Is it
 possible to trim the text?

(1) Put a cut line in your reply template. That will help others.

(2) In your reply template put this regexp

==8=
%Quotes=%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)(.*?)%-
(^(-*?\s*?--\s*\n%-
|-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE%-
|-Original Message%-
|-Original)|\z)%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=1
==8=

in place of

==8=
%Quotes
==8=

This will at least cut of the sigs, PGP/GnuPG sig

I hope that helps.

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Re[2]: Formatting cookies

2002-04-05 Thread David Denton

Hello Lars,

Friday, April 5, 2002, 1:32:08 AM, you wrote:

LG Unfortunately, this is not possible with the %WRAPPED macro.
LG You'll have to insert \n manually into your cookies. Then you can
LG use something like, ... grave.\n -- CONRAD  If you try to
LG combine \n and the %WRAPPED macro, the cookie is wrapped at the \n
LG and afterwards is rewrapped by the macro, thus destroying your
LG manual line break.

I am a little slow here, sorry. This means that if you use \n
inserted manually at the appropriate column and line of the cookie
file to create a separate attribution line, that you cannot use the
%WRAPPED macro? Which means that the main part of the cookie must be
manually formatted after it is inserted. Is that what you are saying?

This could involve adding a blank line to separate the paragraphs,
formatting the main part of the cookie to wrap the text using alt-l
and then bringing the two paragraphs together.

This sounds complicated. I see many multi-line cookies followed
directly by an attribution line on TBUD. Is this how they are done?

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Re: Formatting cookies

2002-04-05 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi David,
On Friday, April 5, 2002 at 08:51:22 [GMT -0500], you wrote:

DD I am a little slow here, sorry. This means that if you use \n
DD inserted manually at the appropriate column and line of the cookie
DD file to create a separate attribution line, that you cannot use the
DD %WRAPPED macro? Which means that the main part of the cookie must be
DD manually formatted after it is inserted. Is that what you are
DD saying?

You *can* always use the %WRAPPED macro. But any newline inserted
manually into your cookie lines will be removed by this macro. Cookies
are always single lines, you can either format them manually (that's
what I did) or let TB rewrap it, losing any manual formatting.

Let's see if a small example can clarify this. I put one of my cookie
lines below, exactly the way it appears in the cookie file (with the
\n's literally!)

one line
Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and\nhave everyone 
else mirror it.\n- Linus Torvalds
/one line

When this cookie is inserted into a message, it results in this text:

Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and
have everyone else mirror it.
- Linus Torvalds

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Re[2]: Formatting cookies

2002-04-05 Thread David Denton

Hello Lars,

Friday, April 5, 2002, 9:03:54 AM, you wrote:

LG Let's see if a small example can clarify this. I put one of my cookie
LG lines below, exactly the way it appears in the cookie file (with the
LG \n's literally!)

Oh, I see! This *does* clarify things. A bit more work to prepare the
cookie file than I thought, but I should be able to insert \n's every
x columns with my text editor.

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Formatting cookies

2002-04-04 Thread David Denton

Hello TB! users,

I am able to wrap text in a cookie (using %WRAPPED=%COOKIE='c: etc.)
but how do you wrap the main text and then have the attribution on the
following line and indented, as in the text, below.

A puff of wind, a puff faint and tepid and laden with strange odours
of blossoms, of aromatic wood, comes out the still night—the first
sigh of the East on my face. That I can never forget. It was
impalpable and enslaving, like a charm, like a whispered promise of
mysterious delight The mysterious East faced me, perfumed like a
flower, silent like death, dark like a grave.
 -- CONRAD, Joseph (Teodor Josef Konrad Korzeniowki) (1857-1924)

I have tried using \n preceding the attribution part, but this does
not seem to work.

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Re: Formatting cookies

2002-04-04 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi David,
On Friday, April 5, 2002 at 18:04:53 [GMT -0500], you wrote:

DD I am able to wrap text in a cookie (using %WRAPPED=%COOKIE='c:
DD etc.) but how do you wrap the main text and then have the
DD attribution on the following line and indented, as in the text,
DD below.

Unfortunately, this is not possible with the %WRAPPED macro. You'll have
to insert \n manually into your cookies. Then you can use something
like, ... grave.\n -- CONRAD  If you try to combine \n and
the %WRAPPED macro, the cookie is wrapped at the \n and afterwards is
rewrapped by the macro, thus destroying your manual line break.

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Nice formatting

2001-04-08 Thread Joan Josep

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Hi batters!,

 I  see that most messages in this list are neatly formatted, but
mine
do not. Why do my messages look so awful?

I  have  checked  all the options in the "options, editor
preferences,
general, text" block.

Word wrap is set at 70, and PGP word wrap at 68.

Any help?
TIA


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Re: Nice formatting

2001-04-08 Thread Brian Clark


Hi Joan,

@ 2:45:20 PM on 4/8/2001, Joan Josep wrote:

...
JJ Word wrap is set at 70, and PGP word wrap at 68.

Disable PGP's Word Wrap setting and all should be well.

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Formatting frustations

2001-01-06 Thread syv

Hi TBUDL,


I get very frustrated with the formatting.

I cannot have two consecutive lines. I have to have a
blank line.

Is there a way to have a new line and not a paragraph?


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Re: Formatting frustations

2001-01-06 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello syv,

On  Sat, 6 Jan 2001  at  17:25:22 GMT -0800 (which was 5:25 PM
where I live) witnesses say syv typed:

 Hi TBUDL,


 I get very frustrated with the formatting.

 I cannot have two consecutive lines. I have to have a
 blank line.

 Is there a way to have a new line and not a paragraph?

Turn off auto-format while editing the paragraphs surrounding the
new-line.  Use CTRL-SHIFT-F to toggle.

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Re: Clean up formatting?

2000-10-20 Thread Douglas Hinds


Hello Michael  other fellow TB! Users,

Thursday, October 19, 2000, you stated:

MSG Is there also a way to get a whole email to reformat without
MSG losing the paragraphs?

MSG I tried selecting the whole email text, but that causes all the
MSG paragraphs to run together.

Obviously unacceptable.

MSG I'd like to keep the paragraph structure but format within the
MSG paragraphs without having to do each one separately.

That's a gripe I share - but I would be satisfied (or at least
somewhat less peeved) if the almost universal (but not in TB!)
windows command cntrl+down arrow was implemented. At least that
way one could move on down the line from paragraph to paragraph
rather rapidly. Stef said he'd do it but that was last year.

(How many other email clients allow you to communicate directly with
the head programmers? Although I think Stef's email address changed).

Douglas Hinds

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Clean up formatting?

2000-10-19 Thread Nick Knisely

10/19/2000 at 11:59 AM

One of the things that I really miss from using Eudora, was Eudora's word
wrap plug-in- that let you cleanup the broken formatting in a message that
you were trying to read.

I am finding that I often have incorrect returns in messages that I am
trying to read in the Bat!, especially ones that have been forwarded a
number of times before I get to see them.

Is there a way similar to the "word wrap" Eudora plug-in to cleanup and
remove extraneous carriage returns in the Bat!?

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Re: Clean up formatting?

2000-10-19 Thread Karin Spaink

On 19-10-2000 at 18:02, Nick Knisely kindly wrote:

 One of the things that I really miss from using Eudora, was Eudora's word
 wrap plug-in- that let you cleanup the broken formatting in a message that
 you were trying to read.

All you need to do is selct the offending paragraph and
press alt-L: it will reformat.


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Re[2]: Clean up formatting?

2000-10-19 Thread Michael S. Greenbaum


 All you need to do is selct the offending paragraph and
 press alt-L: it will reformat.

Is there also a way to get a whole email to reformat without losing
the paragraphs?

I tried selecting the whole email text, but that causes all the
paragraphs to run together.  I'd like to keep the paragraph structure
but format within the paragraphs without having to do each one
separately.

Thanks.


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Re: Clean up formatting?

2000-10-19 Thread A . Curtis Martin

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  On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:35:27 -0700, Michael S. Greenbaum wrote:

MSG I tried selecting the whole email text, but that causes all the
MSG paragraphs to run together.  I'd like to keep the paragraph structure
MSG but format within the paragraphs without having to do each one
MSG separately.

No, you can't format everything in one shot with TB!.

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Line wrapping and quote formatting

2000-10-17 Thread George Mealer

I had a couple of quick questions on line-wrapping

1)  As best as I can tell, TB doesn't do any additional
formatting/wrapping when you send the message, and relies on you to
have already wrapped the line either manually, via a formatting
command, or via auto-wrap.  Is this correct?

2)  If the first part is correct, how does it handle stacked replies?
That is, the line may have been 75 chars to start, but by the time you
add a few " " and "GM " to it, you'll certainly extend over the
limit.

Also, is there any way to turn off auto-insertion of the quote prefix?
For example, TB thought that the above paragraph had a quote in line 3
(prefixed with 'add a few "') and attempted to add it to the next
line down as I was typing.

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Re: Line wrapping and quote formatting

2000-10-17 Thread A . Curtis Martin

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  On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:02:39 -0700, George Mealer wrote:

GM 1)  As best as I can tell, TB doesn't do any additional
GM formatting/wrapping when you send the message, and relies on you to
GM have already wrapped the line either manually, via a formatting
GM command, or via auto-wrap.  Is this correct?

Yes, this is correct.

GM 2)  If the first part is correct, how does it handle stacked replies?
GM That is, the line may have been 75 chars to start, but by the time you
GM add a few " " and "GM " to it, you'll certainly extend over the
GM limit.

It leaves the stacked reply intact. It doesn't rewrap and mangle it as
way too many other clients out there do.

Even better, it offers you the ability to reflow the stacked replies in
a flash. Just get the cursor anywhere in the stacked reply paragraph and
hit Alt+L. (NB// Do not use the mouse to position the cursor in the
paragraph, but if you insist, hit one of the arrow keys and then do the
Alt+L operation.

GM Also, is there any way to turn off auto-insertion of the quote
GM prefix?

No. Fortunately, it's more handy than not for me. When I'm using Gravity
and there's no auto insertion of quote prefixes, I feel disabled. :-)
but I do agree that this should be made optional.

GM For example, TB thought that the above paragraph had a quote in line 3
GM (prefixed with 'add a few "') and attempted to add it to the next
GM line down as I was typing.

To help minimize this, go in the editor preferences and adjust the
'quote name limit' option. The default is 20. What this means is that
TB! will assume that any '' character that occurs within 20 characters
of a new line is a quote prefix (the exceptions being if the '' is
preceded by '' or if the first character of the line is a space). If
you reduce this setting, what happened to you would be less likely to
happen where the auto-quote prefixing is inadvertently triggered while
composing messages.

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HTML Formatting

2000-07-26 Thread Forbes George

Hello!

I am new to TB! This may be a stupid question, but . . .

  Is there a switch/setting for dealing with HTML formatted e-mail so
  that you don't have to read the HTML tags?

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date-time formatting

2000-05-01 Thread Pim Slim

Hoi TBUDL-readers,

  In my message list the date-time format used in 'created' and 'received'
  looks like this: 30 apr 2000, 18:19.
  Is there a way of changing this in e.g. 30-4-00, 18:19 or are these
  settings fixed?

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Re: date-time formatting

2000-05-01 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev

Hi there!

On 1 May 00, at 15:38, Pim Slim wrote
about "date-time formatting":

 Hoi TBUDL-readers,

Your greeting line (specifically the first word of it) sounds a bit... hmmm... 
eccentric for the Russian ear;-) Or was it intended to sound this way?

   In my message list the date-time format used in 'created' and 'received'
   looks like this: 30 apr 2000, 18:19.
   Is there a way of changing this in e.g. 30-4-00, 18:19 or are these
   settings fixed?

Unfortunately, there's no way to change it. I'd sure wish there existed some 
way to make it shorter. In particular, the four-digit year format here could be 
sacrificed for something shorter. Moreover, I'd prefer the date-time to be in 
English rather then in Russian it is currently under the Russian version of 
Windows, since I'm much more accustomed to, say, "1 may 2000" then to 
"1 ÍÁÊ 2000". Besides, the latter variant is grammatically wrong (thanks to 
M$;-)), it should have been "1 ÍÁÑ 2000" anyway.

AFAIK, this have been requested in the past, but sofar nothing's changed. 
Maybe in version 2?;-)

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Re[2]: date-time formatting

2000-05-01 Thread Pim Slim

On 1-5-2000, 21:02:27, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:

AVK Your greeting line (specifically the first word of it) sounds a bit... hmmm... 
AVK eccentric for the Russian ear;-) Or was it intended to sound this way?

Hoi Alexander,

No intention was meant. 'Hoi' simply means 'hi' in Dutch. I hope I didn't
offend you :)

AVK AFAIK, this have been requested in the past, but sofar nothing's changed. 
AVK Maybe in version 2?;-)

We'll wait and see. Thanks for your comments.

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Auto Formatting

2000-01-06 Thread Derek Cedillo


Thanks for all the help on my other questions...and yet I still have
more!

I'm not sure if it's the Auto-Format, I'm having problems with, or
what...but in anycase, the problem has been that when I reply to
someone, some of my text gets mingled with their replies!

I've had this happen two or three times now... any ideas?  Is this a
known bug?

Here's an example:

cin I was wondering if there are some of my text gets mixed with any
cin other ways to send a message. I click "Ctrl-Enter" to send my
cin message.their replies!!!

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Re: Getting formatting into templates ?

1999-10-17 Thread Oleg Zalyalov

Hello, the Bat! list recipients,

Monday, October 18, 1999, Jason Varney wrote about
Getting formatting into templates ?:

JV Is there anyway to get formatting  into templates ? specifically into
JV the print template .. e.g. Having a Bold 24 point Arial Font heading ?

Message/Print Setup/Font Layout

But  there is option for HTML headings only. Since message headers are
not  special  part of the printing template there is no possibility to
change formatting for them separately.

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Re: Getting formatting into templates ?

1999-10-17 Thread Ali Martin

Hi all,

On Monday, October 18, 1999, 1:03:51 AM (-5 GMT), Oleg scribbled:

   
 Hello, the Bat! list recipients,

 Monday, October 18, 1999, Jason Varney wrote about
 Getting formatting into templates ?:

JV Is there anyway to get formatting  into templates ? specifically into
JV the print template .. e.g. Having a Bold 24 point Arial Font heading ?
 ^^
 Oops. I didn't see this so disregard my negative remark on
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