Re: HELP - Text attachment unreadable...???!!!
On Thursday, October 23, 2003, 6:55:48 PM, Julian wrote in message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JBL As far as I remember, the Zip file format is a version of uuencoding, so a JBL zip utility should be able to decode a uuencoded file. This suggests JBL that your message is changing to uuencoded format somewhere on its JBL journey from your outbox to his inbox. Hi Julian, I did actually send the text file the first time as UUEncoded and the second time as Mime and had the same result both times... the file was compressed but the file type extension remained .txt - that hadn't been changed at all - just that the recipient (who uses Apple Mailer) could not read it as a text file but found when he changed the file extension to .zip that he could open it with WinZip. -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HELP - Text attachment unreadable...???!!!
On Friday, October 24, 2003, 4:08:06 PM, Pixie wrote in message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P Hi Anne, I use comcast if you would like to volley a couple/few text P attachments. Thanks for the offer Pixie, I'll send you a copy of the text file I sent to my correspondent if that's OK..? It'll show if it's comcast or his Apple mailer hopefully. -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HELP - Text attachment unreadable...???!!!
On Wednesday, October 22, 2003, 6:27:42 PM, Daniel wrote in message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DR It is possible that the Apple Mailer doesn't support UUEncode. MIME DR seems to be quite common amongst e-mail clients. Hi Daniel, As I said I sent it again as MIME rather than UUEncode and it still arrived scrambled. My correspondent sent me this reply about it today - you'll see he has figured out what was happening, but what I'd like to know is why? I certainly did not compress the file - it left here as plain text and came back to me as plain text when I mailed it to my other account, but this is what he says: The bad news is that when I looked at this second attached file, it was all gibberish just like the first. The good news is that I am a little bit of a techie myself. Looking at the gibberish, it struck me odd that there were no blank spaces or repeated characters or any words standing out. It did not look like a word processing file. I began to wonder whether the file had been compressed. So, I ran a little experiment. I replaced the extension .txt with .zip. Then, I asked my computer to decompress the file. Voila'! It became a readable text file of the will of Elizabeth Docwra. So, the file you sent was really a compressed file and should have had the extension .zip instead of .txt at the end of the title. Any thoughts as to why/where this may be happening? My correspondent uses comcast.net as his ISP - could it be something they are doing to the attachment - perhaps as an anti-virus measure? I can't see it being my ISP (Freenetname) or the one I mailed myself would have been treated the same way. -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HELP - Text attachment unreadable...???!!!
Hello Anne, On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:06:44 +0100 GMT (24/10/2003, 00:06 +0700 GMT), Anne wrote: Any thoughts as to why/where this may be happening? My correspondent uses comcast.net as his ISP - could it be something they are doing to the attachment - perhaps as an anti-virus measure? Just a guess - yes. I year or so ago, I sent my mother a message with two attached pics to her AOL account. She received one zip-file as attachment (but it carried the .zip extension). While she found out how to use WinZip, she considered it incovenient to have to unzip attachments and therefore asked me to send any messages with attachments to her other account - which she can check with TB. So I don't know whether this problem persists at AOL, but clearly ISPs have funny ideas sometimes. So the concerned recipient's ISP *could have* zipped the file but fogotten to change the extension, weird as it sounds. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Ladies, don't forget the rummage sale. It is a good chance to get rid of those things not worth keeping around the house. Bring your husbands. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.01.3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HELP - Text attachment unreadable...???!!!
On Thursday, October 23, 2003, 6:06:44 PM, Anne wrote: So, the file you sent was really a compressed file and should have had the extension .zip instead of .txt at the end of the title. Any thoughts as to why/where this may be happening? My correspondent uses comcast.net as his ISP - could it be something they are doing to the attachment - perhaps as an anti-virus measure? I can't see it being my ISP (Freenetname) or the one I mailed myself would have been treated the same way. As far as I remember, the Zip file format is a version of uuencoding, so a zip utility should be able to decode a uuencoded file. This suggests that your message is changing to uuencoded format somewhere on its journey from your outbox to his inbox. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HELP - Text attachment unreadable...???!!!
On Thursday, October 23, 2003, 6:45:15 PM, Thomas wrote in message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TF Just a guess - yes. I year or so ago, I sent my mother a message with TF two attached pics to her AOL account. She received one zip-file as TF attachment (but it carried the .zip extension). While she found out TF how to use WinZip, she considered it incovenient to have to unzip TF attachments and therefore asked me to send any messages with TF attachments to her other account - which she can check with TB. So I TF don't know whether this problem persists at AOL, but clearly ISPs have TF funny ideas sometimes. TF So the concerned recipient's ISP *could have* zipped the file but TF fogotten to change the extension, weird as it sounds. Hi Thomas, Thanks for this - yes, I know that AOL do zip attachments if they are over a certain size as this happens regularly with folks I know on the genealogy lists. I've not come across it with other ISP's though and never where the file extension isn't changed... it's very odd. -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HELP - Text attachment unreadable...???!!!
Hello All,
I've a problem with sending a text file to someone - it's a plain
text file created in Dominote (notepad replacer) and is
completely plain text - unformatted.
I attached it to a new e-mail using my genealogy mail account (not
this one) which is a Yahoo.co.uk box, account settings are:
Encode attachments using UUEncode
8 bit characters treated as Quoted Printable
Mail editor settings are:
Message format - Plain Text (MicroEd)
Message encoding - Latin 1 (ISO -8859-1)
The recipient uses (from his reply to me) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552)
The text attachment I sent to him as
[elizabeth of kneesworth 1843.txt] he received but when he
tried to view it was unreadable. He has sent me the file back and
it is also unreadable to me... as an example I've copied the
first few lines of it:
begin 644 elizabeth of kneesworth 1843.txt
M5AIR!IR!T:4@;%S=!7:6QL(%N9!497-T86UE;G0@;V8@;[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MF%B971H($1O8W=R82!O9B!+;F5EW=OG1H(EN('1H92!#;W5N='D@;V8@
M0V%M8G)I9=E(%=I9]W#0H-[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]5V:7-E('5N=\@;7D@
M9%U9VAT97(@16QI[EMAIL PROTECTED]AE(%=I9F4@;[EMAIL PROTECTED]AE;B!(=6=H97,@36]U
Can anyone please explain what has happened here? I regularly
send plain text files to others (it's part of a Wills
transcription project) but have never had this happen before.
To check if the text file was corrupted somehow on my system I
forwarded a copy of the original message with the attachment to
myself at this mail address (gmx) and it appeared exactly as it
should do.
Is it because the recipient is using the Apple Mailer or is it
something else that I've overlooked somewhere?
Any advice welcomed!
--
Cheers,
Anne
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Re: HELP - Text attachment unreadable...???!!!
Hello Anne, Wednesday, October 22, 2003, 10:23:54 AM, you wrote: To check if the text file was corrupted somehow on my system I forwarded a copy of the original message with the attachment to myself at this mail address (gmx) and it appeared exactly as it should do. Is it because the recipient is using the Apple Mailer or is it something else that I've overlooked somewhere? Since you verified yourself(by sending the file to yourself to another account) that the file is sent properly and legible. Try sending the attachment using MIME-coded. -- Best regards, Daniel Rail Senior System Engineer ACCRA Group Inc. (www.accra.ca) ACCRA Med Software Inc. (www.filopto.com) Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HELP - Text attachment unreadable...???!!!
On Wednesday, October 22, 2003, 2:47:33 PM, Daniel wrote in message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DR Since you verified yourself(by sending the file to yourself to another DR account) that the file is sent properly and legible. Try sending the DR attachment using MIME-coded. Thanks Daniel - I've just done as you suggest and re-sent it to my correspondent, and asked him to let me know the outcome. I'm puzzled though why this one attachment should have gone wonkie as I have sent many plain text files in the same way to others and they're always readable at the other end - my attachments are always UUEncode. Could it be that Apple mailer doesn't handle this very well? -- Cheers, Anne who know nothing about Apple save they taste good in pies! Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HELP - Text attachment unreadable...???!!!
Hello Anne, Wednesday, October 22, 2003, 11:20:15 AM, you wrote: I'm puzzled though why this one attachment should have gone wonkie as I have sent many plain text files in the same way to others and they're always readable at the other end - my attachments are always UUEncode. Could it be that Apple mailer doesn't handle this very well? It is possible that the Apple Mailer doesn't support UUEncode. MIME seems to be quite common amongst e-mail clients. -- Best regards, Daniel Rail Senior System Engineer ACCRA Group Inc. (www.accra.ca) ACCRA Med Software Inc. (www.filopto.com) Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
