Re[2]: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)

2004-10-02 Thread Lynn
Thursday, September 30, 2004, 11:22:39 PM, you wrote: ASK No you don't. ;-) Caught by the folder template! *veg* You're right, but I've got most of the egg scraped off now! lol! -- Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2

Re[2]: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)

2004-10-02 Thread Lynn
Friday, October 1, 2004, 12:22:02 AM, you wrote: TN It is not the fault of the folder template, it's the TN reply-to setting of the message plus user's awareness TN to do the right things at the right time... *veg* Yes, and I'm not sure my drive is big enough to put *all* your addies in my ab

Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)

2004-10-01 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Leif, Thursday, September 30, 2004, 11:34:35 PM, you wrote: *All* generalizations are false. :grin: My all time favorite undoubtely is A greek man said: all greeks are liars. \\8^) -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)

2004-10-01 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Lynn, Friday, October 1, 2004, 2:17:47 AM, you wrote: Am writing off list No you don't. ;-) Caught by the folder template! *veg* -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00

Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)

2004-10-01 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Friday, October 1, 2004, 08:22, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Caught by the folder template! *veg* It is not the fault of the folder template, it's the reply-to setting of the message plus user's awareness to do the right things at the right time... *veg* -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann |

Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)

2004-10-01 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Lynn, On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:17:47 -0700 GMT (01/10/2004, 07:17 +0700 GMT), Lynn wrote: L Am writing off list, And I guess you're using a folder template? g scnr -- Cheers, Thomas. 13. Los Angeles's full name is El Pueblo de Nuestra Senora la Reina de los Angeles de Porciuncula

Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)

2004-09-30 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Thorvald, On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 07:53:48 +0200GMT (30-9-2004, 7:53 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TN Concerning MIDs: Is it safe to assume a valid email does always TN contain a MID? No, it should have a MiID, but some users deliberately set their mail client or server to remove the from

Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)

2004-09-30 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 30 Sep 2004, @ @ at 07:53:48 +0200, when Thorvald Neumann wrote: Hæ! Concerning MIDs: Is it safe to assume a valid email does always contain a MID? I just saw some SPAM

Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)

2004-09-30 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Thursday, September 30, 2004, 14:19, Mica Mijatovic wrote: I didn't see any message having not a MID which was not a spam, so far. Me neither, but I just searched one of my archives with more than 5000 mails and there seem to be around 30 without MIDs. Is it possible to search for

Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)

2004-09-30 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mica, On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:19:44 +0200 GMT (30/09/2004, 19:19 +0700 GMT), Mica Mijatovic wrote: MM As I understand a newer RFC update(s) concerning MIDs, a MID is MM desirable, but is not obligatory, for a message to be valid. RFC 2822: Quote 3.6.4. Identification fields Though

Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)

2004-09-30 Thread Mica Mijatovic
***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 30 Sep 2004, @ @ at 15:11:24 +0200, when Thorvald Neumann wrote: Hæ! Thursday, September 30, 2004, 14:19, Mica Mijatovic wrote: I didn't see any message having not a MID which was not a spam, so far. Me neither, but I

Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)

2004-09-30 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Thursday, September 30, 2004, 16:07, Mica Mijatovic wrote: But how did you find these 30 messages among those 5000 then? (-: I just searched for Message-ID in the header... And the search told me e.g. 5030 and when the archive folder contains 5060 mails, the rest must be without MID. ;) So

Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)

2004-09-30 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Roelof Otten everyone else 30-Sep-2004 09:26, you wrote: I think, therefore I cannot be a moderator LOL! Whats that supposed to mean? :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.1 RC1 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 The trouble with today's

Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)

2004-09-30 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Alexander, Thursday, September 30, 2004, 9:35:17 AM, you wrote: I think, therefore I cannot be a moderator A LOL! Whats that supposed to mean? :-) Probably something similar to some of my taglines! :grin: Moderator (n): See 'glutton for punishment'. Moderator (n): See also - God, tyrant,

Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)

2004-09-30 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Alexander, On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:35:17 +0200GMT (30-9-2004, 17:35 +0200, where I live), you wrote: I think, therefore I cannot be a moderator ASK LOL! Whats that supposed to mean? :-) Nothing important really. I've installed an old tagline file (from the days I was still active on chat

Re[2]: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)

2004-09-30 Thread Lynn
Thursday, September 30, 2004, 8:52:56 AM, you wrote: LG Probably something similar to some of my taglines! :grin: LG Moderator (n): See 'glutton for punishment'. LG Moderator (n): See also - God, tyrant, egotist, LG oppressor. LG Moderator dies: .MPG at eleven! LG Moderator Justification No.1:

Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)

2004-09-30 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Lynn, Thursday, September 30, 2004, 2:05:56 PM, you wrote: L Oooh! Super taglines! Can I use them for t-shirts lol! Here's the thing about taglines. *All* taglines are stolen. and another from my tagline collection... *All* generalizations are false. :grin: Of course you could

Re[2]: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)

2004-09-30 Thread Lynn
Thursday, September 30, 2004, 2:34:35 PM, you wrote: LG Thursday, September 30, 2004, 2:05:56 PM, you wrote: L Oooh! Super taglines! Can I use them for L t-shirts lol! LG Here's the thing about taglines. *All* taglines are LG stolen. LG and another from my tagline collection... LG *All*

How to filter such a message?

2004-09-29 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! How do I filter such messages? Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 24958 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2004 10:18:15 - Received: from unknown ([62.67.200.159]) by ..de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with QMQP; 29 Sep 2004 10:18:15

Re: How to filter such a message?

2004-09-29 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Thorvald, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:28:22 +0200GMT (29-9-2004, 12:28 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Subject: TN They do not have a subject and a sender. TN Should I filter on Header does not contain From:? That's what I should do. TN What do I have to use for a blank subject? Header

Re: How to filter such a message?

2004-09-29 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 12:50, Roelof Otten wrote: Header matches Subject:\s*\n Wouldn't \s*\n also catch Here begins the subject\n? -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bug! v3.0.0.19 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4

Re: How to filter such a message?

2004-09-29 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Thorvald, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:29:22 +0200GMT (29-9-2004, 13:29 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Header matches Subject:\s*\n TN Wouldn't \s*\n also catch Here begins the subject\n? I meant to search in headers (not in subject) for the condition Subject:\s*\n and that won't be

Re[2]: How to filter such a message?

2004-09-29 Thread Joe
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 7:41:02 AM, you wrote: Hallo Thorvald, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:29:22 +0200GMT (29-9-2004, 13:29 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Header matches Subject:\s*\n TN Wouldn't \s*\n also catch Here begins the subject\n? I meant to search in headers

Re: How to filter such a message?

2004-09-29 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 13:41, Roelof Otten wrote: But when you've got a contact who is so clueless that he uses no From: header (remember our first condition) and ends his subject with a colon, then he deserves no better than being caught by your spamfilter. ;-) I am glad those

Re: How to filter such a message?

2004-09-29 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 29 Sep 2004, @ @ at 12:28:22 +0200, when Thorvald Neumann wrote: Hæ! How do I filter such messages? Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to filter such a message?

2004-09-29 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 14:07, Mica Mijatovic wrote: Message-ID: R[20-25 --- SNIP --- Interesting part is MID as well. Yes, I was also stumbling on this. I will watch this over the next days. There was only one occurence in the last 130 spam mails... The latter example could be

Re: How to filter such a message?

2004-09-29 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 29 Sep 2004, @ @ at 14:28:39 +0200, when Thorvald Neumann wrote: Interesting part is MID as well. Yes, I was also stumbling on this. I will watch this over the next days.

Re: How to filter such a message?

2004-09-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mica, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:04:25 +0200 GMT (29/09/2004, 22:04 +0700 GMT), Mica Mijatovic wrote: MM Which reminds me that I have to go for the liver pasta now... It's good MM with ajvar/AJBAP. http://faq.macedonia.org/cuisine/ajvar.html http://www.recipeland.com/recipe/82/ Sounds good.

Re: How to filter such a message?

2004-09-29 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Wed 29-Sep-04 6:29am -0400, Thorvald Neumann wrote: Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 12:50, Roelof Otten wrote: Header matches Subject:\s*\n Wouldn't \s*\n also catch Here begins the subject\n? Indeed it would. A better choice might be: Header field - Subject - match - ^\s*$ Not

Re: How to filter such a message?

2004-09-29 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 20:22, Bill McCarthy wrote: Header field - Subject - match - ^\s*$ Thanks, I will try it. :) Why are RegExp so cryptical... ;) -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 PopFile v0.22.0

SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)

2004-09-29 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Concerning MIDs: Is it safe to assume a valid email does always contain a MID? I just saw some SPAM mails do not have a MID. -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195)