Re: Lists that don't overwrite the Reply-To header
Hi Chris, CW Is there some functionality of The Bat! that will help me when it CW comes to mailing lists that don't replace the reply-to header with the CW list's address? CW Is there some sort of options that can be toggled or a template that CW can be used. CW If I remember correctly, pine (a CLI-based IMAP client) would ask me CW whether I wanted to reply to the sender or the list. One thing I've done is to include the Reply-To: field in the headers, so that I can edit it when creating a reply. I set this by right-clicking in the headers area. That shows a context menu, listing the various headers with a check mark for what should be visible. That's so manual, I doubt it's what you're looking for 8/ I'm uncertain if this helps, since its more focused on ListServs/groups than mailing lists.? Things which can be separated by filters. I've created a folder called ListServs. I think its a Common Folder; its at the same hierarchy level as the Inboxes, not under them. Then, I have folders under ListServs for each group and filters, which sort the messages into those folders, right? So I've got like: \\\ListServs \\\ListServs\TheBat \\\ListServs\EurForum etc. Each of those folders has their own Properties dialog, with an Identity tab. And that's the trick I'm using. I set the Reply-To info for the folder/ListServ/Group from the Identities tab on a per-group basis. Not sure how that will interact with the various templates. -- HTH, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 3.0 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lists that don't overwrite the Reply-To header
David Earl @ 2006-9-03 3:31:08 AM Lists that don't overwrite the Reply-To header mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Each of those folders has their own Properties dialog, with an Identity tab. And that's the trick I'm using. I set the Reply-To info for the folder/ListServ/Group from the Identities tab on a per-group basis. Not sure how that will interact with the various templates. Oddly. I've been burned by folder-level templates etc. before, so I'm going to go the manual route. Right-click on the mailing list address and reply to that. Then, all my nice and fancy templates are invoked automatically. -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. In a Nonsmoking Area: If we see smoking we will assume you are on fire and take appropriate action. pgp1WtZF44hZO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lists that don't overwrite the Reply-To header
Hello ...in addition to my previous message... on 16-Jul-2006 at 11:07 you (Alexander S. Kunz) wrote: First, its not working all of the time - because address book (group) templates have priority over folder templates. After I did some tests, it seems like it is impossible to use a folder template if the original sender is in your address book - the reply template from the AB (or AB group) will be used. Maybe I overlooked something. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. - Bokonon Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lists that don't overwrite the Reply-To header
Hello Chris W. everyone else, on 16-Jul-2006 at 06:40 you (Chris W.) wrote: Is there some functionality of The Bat! that will help me when it comes to mailing lists that don't replace the reply-to header with the list's address? You can use Shift+F4 to reply to all quoting selected text which will put the sender in TO and the list address in CC (might depend on the list). Not a very practical solution in my opinion. Is there some sort of options that can be toggled or a template that can be used. I'm using a folder template. However, you have to handle these with care. First, its not working all of the time - because address book (group) templates have priority over folder templates. [which means - as soon as I reply to someone that is in my address book, more precisely in an AB group that has its own template, or the AB entry itself has its own template, the folder template will not kick in, but the AB template, and the message is sent as a private reply if I don't take care] And second, if I explicitely choose reply to this address if I *do* want to send a private reply, the TO address will be replaced by the folder template, and the message will be send to the list. If I remember correctly, pine (a CLI-based IMAP client) would ask me whether I wanted to reply to the sender or the list. I'd like to know if there's a different/better solution for TB as well. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) To err is human, but to really foul things up requires a computer. Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lists that don't overwrite the Reply-To header
On Sun, 2006-07-16, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: And second, if I explicitely choose reply to this address if I *do* want to send a private reply, the TO address will be replaced by the folder template, and the message will be send to the list. I also use folder templates and have a similar problem. There are 2 buttons at the top of the Bat window indicating Reply and Reply to All; however, once TB starts to execute the template, there seems to be no way to determine which button was pushed! Thus, there is no way that the template can take special actions that would determine the intended recipient. I asked about this on TBUDL a year or so ago and no one could come up with a mechanism. Since I do not want to upgrade from 2.11 until deficiencies like this are corrected, I will wait until I see someone on this list mention such a feature. (I doubt that Ritlabs is interested in a bug report from a 2.11 user.) ;-) -- Bill McQuillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.11 on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600-Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lists that don't overwrite the Reply-To header
Hello Bill McQuillan everyone else, on 16-Jul-2006 at 19:39 you (Bill McQuillan) wrote: There are 2 buttons at the top of the Bat window indicating Reply and Reply to All; however, once TB starts to execute the template, there seems to be no way to determine which button was pushed! You can probably keep the buttons reply and reply to all apart by testing the CC header - if it contains something, the reply to all button was used. Since I do not want to upgrade from 2.11 until deficiencies like this are corrected The deficiency is at the lists administrator of such a list: a discussion list should replace the reply-to header with the list address, an announcement list should keep it as-is. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Everything is theoretically possible, until it's done. One could write a history of science in reverse by assembling the solemn pronouncements of highest authority about what could not be done and could never happen. -- Robert A. Heinlein Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lists that don't overwrite the Reply-To header
Alexander S. Kunz @ 2006-7-16 2:12:07 PM Lists that don't overwrite the Reply-To header mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The deficiency is at the lists administrator of such a list: a discussion list should replace the reply-to header with the list address, an announcement list should keep it as-is. This is one of those holy wars (like plain-text vs. HTML, C vs. LISP, emacs vs. vi, etc.) that tend to crop up in the computer field. There are good reasons for both ways of doing it, so asking the list administrator to change one way or the other isn't really a discussion I want to have. Arguments for and against can be found here: http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/listreplyto.html Reply to all seems a decent solution, except the author of the message to which I am replying gets to copies: a personal one and a group message. What I'd really like is a reply to group feature that only sends the message to the group, not to the group and the sender. That way, I have all three options. The solution I'm using for now is the right click on the list address and select Reply to this address. It works okay and invokes the correct templates. I considered using a folder template, but I've been burned by them before... -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. There's an old proverb that says just about whatever you want it to. pgpHejOynIRJZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lists that don't overwrite the Reply-To header
Hello Chris W. everyone else, on 16-Jul-2006 at 23:20 you (Chris W.) wrote: Reply to all seems a decent solution, except the author of the message to which I am replying gets to copies: a personal one and a group message. What I'd really like is a reply to group feature that only sends the message to the group, not to the group and the sender. That way, I have all three options. As I said in my reply to Bill - you could use a folder template that checks if the CC field has a content (which indicates that the reply to all function was used), and if so, reset the CC field and place the list address in the to field instead. The solution I'm using for now is the right click on the list address and select Reply to this address. It works okay and invokes the correct templates. I considered using a folder template, but I've been burned by them before... Same here. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school. -- Albert Einstein Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lists that don't overwrite the Reply-To header
Hi On Sunday 16 July 2006 at 10:20:12 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris W. wrote: The solution I'm using for now is the right click on the list address and select Reply to this address. That's a neat feature I had not previously known about. -- Best regards, MFPA Teamwork is essential - it allows you to blame someone else Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Lists that don't overwrite the Reply-To header
Is there some functionality of The Bat! that will help me when it comes to mailing lists that don't replace the reply-to header with the list's address? Is there some sort of options that can be toggled or a template that can be used. If I remember correctly, pine (a CLI-based IMAP client) would ask me whether I wanted to reply to the sender or the list. -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Is the glass half empty, half full, or twice as large as it needs to be? pgpcf00xqgPrB.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
