Re: Future of TB* mailing lists

2020-05-13 Thread MFPA
Hi On Sunday 10 May 2020 at 2:51:30 PM, in , Andrew Savchenko wrote:- > groups.io: > - "your own domain" is a $200/month option. I would think most people with a mailing list at groups.io would use the free options, similar to hosting a group at yahoo but they just seem to work better. --

Re: Future of TB* mailing lists

2020-05-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marck, On Sun, 10 May 2020 09:52:20 +0100 GMT (10-May-20, 15:52 +0700 GMT), Marck Pearlstone wrote: AS>> Things that come to mind, in no particular order: AS>> * Increase size limits for attachments. > TBBETA has a 75kb limit and TBUDL 25kb. > I suggest 150 for TBBETA and 100 for TBUDL.

Re: Future of TB* mailing lists

2020-05-10 Thread Gunivortus Goos
Hello Maggie, > When I look around and see everyone doing mail (poorly) on their > iThings, I do wonder if we aren't all dinosaurs because we write > in full sentences with a proper email program. Yes, for me it is also long ago when I started with The Bat! Actually, it is so long ago, I really

Re: Future of TB* mailing lists

2020-05-10 Thread Maggie Meister
Hi Marck, On Sunday, May 10, 2020 at 4:52:20 AM you wrote: MP> ... we have done this multiple times in the 20+ years that we have run MP> these lists.T Thank you for everything, Marck - even the trouts. Looking back, I can't believe it's more than 20 years, While it doesn't feel like

Re[2]: Future of TB* mailing lists

2020-05-10 Thread Andrew Savchenko
t;improvement" category. > They are perfectly fine where Marck currently hosts them at > silverstones.com. What if Marck is being hit by the car and server lease is not renewed? Same goes for domain name, etc. > And many mailing lists are perfectly fine at one of the mailing list >

Re: Future of TB* mailing lists

2020-05-10 Thread MFPA
nking to info about the other TB* mailing lists. I think the FAQ linked from that info page has not been updated since I first started using TB! over 15 years ago. > * Consider merging TDUDL/TBBETA into one. Would that lead to more help for ordinary users' TB! issues? Or would their messages sim

Re: Future of TB* mailing lists

2020-05-10 Thread Marck Pearlstone
On 10 May 2020 at 10:18 MAU wrote and made these points >> I suggest 150 for TBBETA and 100 for TBUDL. Thoughts? M> I can agree to that, Done. Now to test attaching a small image... To avoid extra confusion I will deliberately leave this post unsigned. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone --

Re: Future of TB* mailing lists

2020-05-10 Thread MAU
Hello Marck, > I suggest 150 for TBBETA and 100 for TBUDL. Thoughts? I can agree to that, -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Zarzalejo (Madrid)- Spain) Using The Bat! v9.1.18.3 (BETA) Current version is 8.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information:

Re: Future of TB* mailing lists

2020-05-10 Thread Marck Pearlstone
On 10 May 2020 at 03:06 Andrew Savchenko wrote and made these points AS> It is 2020 out there and TB mailing lists seem to be a little outdated. AS> Screenshots being stripped from the messages unless it all fits in 25Kb, In the case of TBUDL, this seems to be happening regardless of s

Future of TB* mailing lists

2020-05-09 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello All, It is 2020 out there and TB mailing lists seem to be a little outdated. Screenshots being stripped from the messages unless it all fits in 25Kb, famous "Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information" footer attached to all messages... Perhaps it is time for a m

Problem with replying to mailing lists

2004-04-10 Thread Doug Weller
Hello, I searched and thought I'd found an answer to the problem of replying to a list when the list is set to reply to the sender. I put %Reply-To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] in my reply template for the folder, but it didn't have an affect. I found this as a change in recent versions of

Re: Problem with replying to mailing lists

2004-04-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Doug, On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 08:58:32 +0100GMT (10-4-04, 9:58 +0200, where I live), you wrote: DW I searched and thought I'd found an answer to the problem of replying DW to a list when the list is set to reply to the sender. DW I put %Reply-To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] in my reply template for

Re: Problem with replying to mailing lists

2004-04-10 Thread Doug Weller
to the list without intending to do so. Don't think that this won't happen to you, it will, it happens to everybody with folder templates hardcoding the intended recipient. I think I can live with this on the mailing lists I have in mind. Knowing what what I've done is wrong and why

Re: Problem with replying to mailing lists

2004-04-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Doug, On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 10:04:54 +0100GMT (10-4-04, 11:04 +0200, where I live), you wrote: DW I think I can live with this on the mailing lists I have in mind. DW Knowing what what I've done is wrong and why, thanks to your response, Just be aware of the risk... DW I've just now put

Re: Problem with replying to mailing lists

2004-04-10 Thread Doug Weller
Hi Roelof, Saturday, April 10, 2004, 10:21:45 AM, you wrote: [SNIP] DW But it's now going to both the sender and the list. How do I get rid of DW the sender's address? Change it to: %To=%To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] The first %To macro empties the To: header (see the help) Thanks. I've also now

Re: Problem with replying to mailing lists

2004-04-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Doug, On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 10:46:35 +0100GMT (10-4-04, 11:46 +0200, where I live), you wrote: DW Thanks. I've also now found the appropriate help file. Now if I could DW figure out how to make the reply macro also capitalise the first letter DW of the recipient's name in Hi %tofname. From

Re: Problem with replying to mailing lists

2004-04-10 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Saturday, April 10, 2004, 4:41 AM, you wrote: DW I searched and thought I'd found an answer to the problem of replying DW to a list when the list is set to reply to the sender. DW I put %Reply-To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] in my reply template for the DW folder, but it didn't have an affect.

Re: Problem with replying to mailing lists

2004-04-10 Thread Paul Cartwright
DW But it's now going to both the sender and the list. How do I get rid of DW the sender's address? RO Change it to: RO %To=%To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] RO The first %To macro empties the To: header (see the help) nice, I like that! I just used that for my list: %To=%To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Paul

Re: Problem with replying to mailing lists

2004-04-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Paul, On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 06:55:33 -0400GMT (10-4-04, 12:55 +0200, where I live), you wrote: PC nice, I like that! I just used that for my list: PC %To=%To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, just keep in mind what i said in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE THAT THIS IS DANGEROUS!!! Whenever you might

Re: Problem with replying to mailing lists

2004-04-10 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Saturday, April 10, 2004, 7:18 AM, you wrote: RONOTE THAT THIS IS DANGEROUS!!! Whenever you might want to reply off ROlist (with a personal message) you can be very embarrassed or even ROfinancially duped (depending on the message) by sending a message ROto the list without

Re: Problem with replying to mailing lists

2004-04-10 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Saturday, April 10, 2004, Paul Cartwright wrote... DW But it's now going to both the sender and the list. How do I get DW rid of the sender's address? RO Change it to: RO %To=%To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] RO The first %To macro empties the To: header (see the help) nice, I like that! I just used

Re: Problem with replying to mailing lists

2004-04-10 Thread Doug Weller
Hi Jonathan, Saturday, April 10, 2004, 6:09:12 PM, you wrote: Something like that, I think it's been mentioned in the past for folder templates, if you do a search for Marck's folder templates are evil reply, you can normally find a bunch of suggestions ;) I just searched the archives,

Re: Problem with replying to mailing lists

2004-04-10 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Doug, @10-Apr-2004, 20:33 Doug Weller [DW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Jonathan: Something like that, I think it's been mentioned in the past for folder templates, if you do a search for Marck's folder templates are evil reply, you can normally find a bunch of suggestions ;) DW

Re: Problem with replying to mailing lists

2004-04-10 Thread Doug Weller
Hi Marck, Saturday, April 10, 2004, 8:45:55 PM, you wrote: [SNIP] There is nothing else for which folder templates can be used that can't be covered and even improved upon using Address Book templates. There are dangers in using Folder Templates that are not there when you use AB templates.

Re: Problem with replying to mailing lists

2004-04-10 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Doug, @10-Apr-2004, 21:38 Doug Weller [DW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: There are dangers in using Folder Templates that are not there when you use AB templates. DW Ok. I want all my lists to work the same way. Nice ideal but, in fact, there are two different types of list -

Re: Problem with replying to mailing lists

2004-04-10 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Saturday, April 10, 2004, 3:45 PM, you wrote: DW I just searched the archives, and can find a reference by Marck to his DW 'folder templates are evil lecture', but not the post itself. MDP Okay, okay! I'll bite. no, don't bite! I heard you were a nice sharing kinda guy:) MDP stock

Re: Problem with replying to mailing lists

2004-04-10 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Paul, @10-Apr-2004, 17:59 -0400 (10-Apr 22:59 UK time) Paul Cartwright [PC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MDP Okay, okay! I'll bite. PC no, don't bite! I heard you were a nice sharing kinda guy:) grrrNASH! MDP stock lecture PC ok, I'll make SURE I add the:

Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem

2003-02-17 Thread Kim
Hi all, I am now a registered user of The Bat. My registration just arrived in my e-mail a few minutes ago. :) I have a question about setting up mailing lists in The Bat. I currently belong to two mailing lists (this one and one other one), and although the settings for this one seem to be fine

Re: Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem

2003-02-17 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Kim, On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:32:15 -0500GMT (17-2-03, 20:32 +0100, where I live), you wrote: K I receive messages fine for both mailing lists, however, when I K click reply for a message on the other mailing list, the person's K individual e-mail address appears in the TO section, rather

Re: Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem

2003-02-17 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, February 17, 2003, Kim wrote... I am now a registered user of The Bat. My registration just arrived in my e-mail a few minutes ago. :) Well worth the money in my opinion ;) I have a question about setting up mailing lists in The Bat

Re: Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem

2003-02-17 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Monday, February 17, 2003, 2:32 PM, you wrote: K I have a question about setting up mailing lists in The Bat. I K currently belong to two mailing lists (this one and one other one), K and although the settings for this one seem to be fine, the other one K is not. is there a link

Re: Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem

2003-02-17 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Monday, February 17, 2003, 2:32 PM, you wrote: K I am now a registered user of The Bat. My registration just arrived in K my e-mail a few minutes ago. :) congrats!! there is a lot to learn to use many of the features, but you can obviously do well from the beginning !! This list has lots of

Re[2]: Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem

2003-02-17 Thread Kim
Hi Roelof, Monday, February 17, 2003, 2:52:08 PM, you wrote: In that case, the mailing list probably does not insert/overwrite the Reply-To header. There are several ways to handle this Select the To:-header in the grey header section above the message, use your right mouse button and

Re[2]: Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem

2003-02-17 Thread Kim
Hi Paul, Monday, February 17, 2003, 3:00:19 PM, you wrote: is there a link at the bottom of that list message that has the REPLY-TO info in it? Other than looking for that, I think someone else mentioned reply-to-all.. Yep...the Reply-To within the mailing list itself was the problem. The

Re: Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem

2003-02-17 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Kim! On Monday, February 17, 2003, 2:26 PM, you wrote: R Or create a folder reply template for your list folder. K I tried your last suggestion (with the macro) and it worked like a K charm! Thanks so much!!! Kim, just a word of caution with folder macros. It's easy to accidentally send

Re: Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem

2003-02-17 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Kim, On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:26:23 -0500GMT (17-2-03, 21:26 +0100, where I live), you wrote: In this template, you can use the macro: %To=''%To='%OFromName on listname listaddress'%- K I tried your last suggestion (with the macro) and it worked like a K charm! Thanks so much!!! I

Re[2]: Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem

2003-02-17 Thread Kim
Hi Jonathan, Monday, February 17, 2003, 2:50:36 PM, you wrote: Well worth the money in my opinion ;) I tend to agree with you there. It could be that the second list doesn't use a reply-to header. When that line is missing in the headers, hitting reply goes back to the sender. It could

Re: Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem

2003-02-17 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, February 17, 2003, Kim wrote... It could be that the second list doesn't use a reply-to header. That was exactly it. The other list indeed does not use a Reply-To header. TheBat seems to only respond to certain list headers. Certain

Re: Reply to field for mailing lists

2003-01-25 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Mary, On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:41:02 -0600GMT (25-1-03, 5:41 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: MB However, other subscribers to TBUDL are saying that properly MB written List protocols will over-ride a Poster's reply to MB configuration. It's not really a matter of properly written

Re[2]: Reply to field for mailing lists

2003-01-24 Thread Anne
Monday, January 20, 2003, 7:45:47 PM, Thomas wrote: The list moderator, Joan Young, says that something in my settings is over-riding her List settings. TF I don't think that you can override her settings, but you could try to TF use the %Reply-To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] macro in your templates for

Re[2]: Reply to field for mailing lists

2003-01-24 Thread Anne
Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 5:46:08 PM, Mary wrote: MB I don't think I want to get into a discussion with the MB moderator on her List settings at this point. The level of experience, MB even with her, is, I think, Outlook Express. No point doing so Mary. On Rootsweb the listowner's decision is

Re: Reply to field for mailing lists

2003-01-24 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Anne! On Thursday, January 23, 2003, 10:41 PM, you wrote: MB I don't think I want to get into a discussion with the moderator MB on her List settings at this point. The level of experience, even MB with her, is, I think, Outlook Express. A No point doing so Mary. On Rootsweb the

Re[2]: Reply to field for mailing lists

2003-01-21 Thread Spike
Hello Mary Bull, On or about Monday, January 20, 2003 at 14:12:32GMT -0600 (which was 3:12 PM in the tropics where I live) Mary Bull opined: 8 Snipped a bunch MB Peter, this is a very nice list. Some of the people on it know even MB less than I, and I'm sometimes able to help fellow

Re: Reply to field for mailing lists

2003-01-21 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Spike! On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 8:16 AM, you wrote: S 8 Snipped a bunch MB ... this [Senior-Newbies] is a very nice list. ... snipped a bunch more ... MB ... Hardly any of them have heard of The Bat! however. :) ... S You must take this opportunity to edu-ma-cate them Mary!

Re[2]: Reply to field for mailing lists

2003-01-21 Thread Joseph N.
On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, Mary Bull wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: MB Good teaching goes from the known to the unknown Very nice. -- JN Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:

Re: Reply to field for mailing lists

2003-01-21 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Joseph! On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 1:36 PM, you wrote: MB Good teaching goes from the known to the unknown J Very nice. Fellow teacher? At least, fellow Bat lover. I noted your version in your expanded headers. ;) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service

Reply to field for mailing lists

2003-01-20 Thread Mary Bull
Hello All! I just subscribed to an interesting (to me) new list, Rootsweb's Senior-Newbies-L. Something about the settings I have made in The Bat! seems to be causing my Reply To field not to show. Consequently, many who choose to reply to my posts are sending the replies to me privately, when

Re: Reply to field for mailing lists

2003-01-20 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mary, On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:41:09 -0600 GMT (21/01/03, 02:41 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: The list moderator, Joan Young, says that something in my settings is over-riding her List settings. I don't think that you can override her settings, but you could try to use the %Reply-To=[EMAIL

Re: Reply to field for mailing lists

2003-01-20 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Thomas! On Monday, January 20, 2003, 1:45 PM, you wrote: MB The list moderator, Joan Young, says that something in my settings is MB over-riding her List settings. T I don't think that you can override her settings, but you could try to T use the %Reply-To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] macro in your

Re: Reply to field for mailing lists

2003-01-20 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Mary, on Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:41:09 -0600GMT (20.01.03, 20:41 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MB I just subscribed to an interesting (to me) new list, Rootsweb's MB Senior-Newbies-L. MB Something about the settings I have made in The Bat! seems to be MB

Re: Reply to field for mailing lists

2003-01-20 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Peter! On Monday, January 20, 2003, 2:03 PM, you wrote: P Hi Mary, MB I just subscribed to an interesting (to me) new list, Rootsweb's MB Senior-Newbies-L. snip MB The list moderator, Joan Young, says that something in my settings is MB over-riding her List settings. P Yes, it is in

Re: Reply to field for mailing lists

2003-01-20 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Thomas, on Tue, 21 Jan 2003 02:45:47 +0700GMT (20.01.03, 20:45 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : The list moderator, Joan Young, says that something in my settings is over-riding her List settings. TF I don't think that you can override her settings

Re: Reply to field for mailing lists

2003-01-20 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Mary, on Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:12:32 -0600GMT (20.01.03, 21:12 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MB The list moderator, Joan Young, says that something in my settings is MB over-riding her List settings. P Yes, it is in Account -- Properties -- General. It

Re: Reply to field for mailing lists

2003-01-20 Thread Heiko Kuschel
Hallo Peter Meyns, am Montag, 20. Januar 2003 schriebst Du: It is only a work-around, but it is easier than to have them change their list-server software. Actually, _their_ Reply-to entry should override your own (if existent) on the list... Well, I once learned that this was deliberate,

Re: Reply to field for mailing lists

2003-01-20 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Heiko, on Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:59:32 +0100GMT (20.01.03, 21:59 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : It is only a work-around, but it is easier than to have them change their list-server software. Actually, _their_ Reply-to entry should override your own

Re: Reply to field for mailing lists

2003-01-20 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mary, On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:57:13 -0600 GMT (21/01/03, 02:57 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: T I don't think that you can override her settings, but you could try to T use the %Reply-To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] macro in your templates for T that list. Thanks, Thomas. Put the list address in

Attachments in mailing lists?

2002-05-07 Thread David Floyd
Using BAT v.1.60 on Windows2K Have used The Bat for a mailing list for some time now, but now we require to send attachments to each other via the list. In 'sorting rules' for 'postings' I have 'create a message for the list' ticked and then a template which looks like this (disguised in

Re: PGP and Mailing Lists

2002-04-15 Thread Nick Andriash
Hello Michael Disabato, On Sunday, April 14 2002 at 04:49 AM PDT, you wrote: OK, that's what I thought. I'm struggling through the implementation of GnuPG to support IDEA (RFC1991 compatibility with TB!). Once that's done, I'll use GPGRelay as a front end for the thing. You have to add the

Re: PGP and Mailing Lists

2002-04-15 Thread Michael Disabato
Monday, April 15, 2002, 3:20:49 PM, Nick scribbled: NA You have to add the IDEA module. If you are using Windows you can load NA the Nullify GnuPG 1.06 Binary which includes the IDEA Module: NA http://www.nullify.org/ Nick, Once again, thank you for your reply. I found nullify.org while

Re: PGP and Mailing Lists

2002-04-14 Thread Michael Disabato
Saturday, April 13, 2002, 11:03:59 PM, Nick scribbled: NA Hello Michael Disabato, and then have it re-encrypted to the subscriber keys before sending it back out? NA Not without intervention. OK, that's what I thought. I'm struggling through the implementation of GnuPG to support IDEA

Re: PGP and Mailing Lists

2002-04-13 Thread Nick Andriash
Hello Michael Disabato, On Thursday, April 11 2002 at 04:11 AM PDT, you wrote: I'm interested in using TB! for a small mailing list. Is it possible to have TB! detect incoming mail as being encrypted to the list key It will not be TB that detects it, rather the Plugin will detect it upon

PGP and Mailing Lists

2002-04-11 Thread Michael Disabato
I'm interested in using TB! for a small mailing list. Is it possible to have TB! detect incoming mail as being encrypted to the list key and then have it re-encrypted to the subscriber keys before sending it back out? Mike Current Ver:

Outgoing filter for mailing lists.

2002-04-06 Thread Ottar Grimstad
Hello Miguel, Saturday, April 6, 2002, 12:00:59 AM, you wrote to TBUDL: MAU for mail lists, you don't need an outgoing filter (or if you use MAU it you can send messages directly to trash) because you will get MAU your own message back from the list. I make a subfolder for my mailinglists for

Re: Outgoing filter for mailing lists.

2002-04-06 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Ottar, I make a subfolder for my mailinglists for my outgoing messages to the list and filter them into this. Under account properties for this folder I have automatic deletion of messages after a couple of days. This way I have some control whether my messages makes it to the list,

Re: Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)

2002-03-03 Thread Alastair Scott
the Me too as an example of how a very short message may end up with an un-proportional footprint, specially if you multiply it by the number of subscribers to this list. I'm afraid things are going the opposite way - try, for example, i. Yahoo! Groups mailing lists (adverts added by servers); ii

DEAD HORSE (was Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message))

2002-03-03 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Alastair, On 03 March 2002 at 21:07:35 + Alastair Scott wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm afraid things are going the opposite way - try, for example, moderator This topic went way off / too long and I have already pronounced it dead.

threading? (was: Re: Signatures on mailing lists)

2002-03-03 Thread Roman Katzer
On Sunday, March 03, 2002, 22:07:35, Alastair Scott wrote: [...] Hi Alastair, both of your mails aren't threaded properly in my TB. Any idea why? Roman -- Roman Katzer, Aachen, Germany I'll have what the guy on the floor is having. --

Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)

2002-03-02 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Miguel! On Saturday, March 2, 2002 at 11:43:35 AM you wrote: I may be quite dumb but, aside of wasting bandwidth and filling up everybody's mailboxes and folders, I don't see the purpose of sending S/MIME or PGP signed messages to a list like this one. Am I missing something? There

Re: Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)

2002-03-02 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hi Dierk, There has been quite a discussion in the last year about secure signing or not. I missed it, I joined this list about a month ago. Without going into the details, let me just say that I am all for it. That may be my problem, that I don't understand the benefits of secure signing

Re: Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)

2002-03-02 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Miguel! On Saturday, March 2, 2002 at 1:38:26 PM you wrote: I missed it, I joined this list about a month ago. Luckily the archives are quite good. ;-) That may be my problem, that I don't understand the benefits of secure signing in general, and for a list like this in particular. I

Re[2]: Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)

2002-03-02 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hi Dierk, I missed it, I joined this list about a month ago. Luckily the archives are quite good. ;-) Yes, I know they quite good. But I don't have the time now. More or less the same as signing an ordinary letter or contract. Understand. I can understand that to sign a contract you need

Re: Re[2]: Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)

2002-03-02 Thread Syafril Hermansyah
On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 16:47:20 +0100 Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the (various) intros in messages, although I use the pure, short, informational one only. I don't mind the intros themselves. Although I hardly really pay attention to any of them, some of them are funny.

Re[4]: Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)

2002-03-02 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hi Syafril, More foot print means what ? More bytes than needed. Longer transmission time no matter how fast it is; more storage space required; more time needed for backups; more time when doing searches on the message base; more... everything. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial

Re: Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)

2002-03-02 Thread Nick Andriash
Hello Miguel A. Urech, On Saturday, March 02 2002 at 07:47 AM PDT, you wrote: Right. But they do add to the footprint of the message, don't they? That's my point. Not to an appreciable amount using PGP or GPG, but certainly with S/MIME because every signed message includes the Public Key as

Re: Re[4]: Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)

2002-03-02 Thread Syafril Hermansyah
On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 18:05:20 +0100 Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More foot print means what ? More bytes than needed. Longer transmission time no matter how fast it is; more storage space required; more time needed for backups; more time when doing searches on the message base;

Re[6]: Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)

2002-03-02 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hi Syafril, You can set kill filter to restrict POP msg size, set it as lower as you wish, then you will get...nothing :-) No, I won't do that. But I wish I could set up a filter to just extract _significant_ text out of messages and leave all superfluous and redundant stuff out. I don't

Re[2]: Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)

2002-03-02 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Pete, Personal mails, of course, are a totally different thing. Forgot to say that I agree with this. Same as with business or company email. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.53d ** Scanned

Re: Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)

2002-03-02 Thread Jernej Simoni
Hello Pete, 02. marec 2002, 20:25:26, you wrote: P No 48 kB P posts here saying well said. Yes, there are mailing-lists like that P :-( I've seen that, but it's not the worst - some people not only that they send in HTML, but they also use images for background - nothing like a How do I do

Re: Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)

2002-03-02 Thread Ian Petersen
Syafril, You forget the most important (IMO) issue: Unneccessary intros, felicitations, quoting, cookies and sigs simply make the actual message content harder to find, slower to read and more difficult to comprehend. Especially on high volume mailing-lists, such as this, every

Re: Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)

2002-03-02 Thread Pete
Hello Ian, Saturday, March 2, 2002, 10:17:49 PM, you wrote: IP Especially on high volume mailing-lists, such as this, every IP unneccessary byte makes the list just a little less useful or IP enjoyable. This says it all, really. Thank you Ian for those words. And thanks Miguel and Jernej

DEAD HORSE (was Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message))

2002-03-02 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jernej, On 02 March 2002 at 20:51:29 +0100 (which was 19:51 where I live) Jernej Simoni wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] complete message quoted below and in HTML... moderator This topic has gone way off / too long and I am

Re: DEAD HORSE (was Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message))

2002-03-02 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hi Mark, This topic has gone way off / too long and I am forced to pronounce it dead. You are not being fair here Mark. We are talking about this list and the noise in it. Why what we have to say is way off and too long and the unnecessary introductions, long signatures and all the PGP stuff

Re: DEAD HORSE (was Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message))

2002-03-02 Thread Luc
It was foretold that on 2-3-2002 @ 21:20:43 GMT+ (which was 22:20 where I live) Marck D Pearlstone wrote and spread these wise comments on DEAD HORSE (was Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)): complete message quoted below and in HTML... MDP moderator MDP This topic

Re[2]: DEAD HORSE (was Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message))

2002-03-02 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hi Luc, It was foretold that on 2-3-2002 @ 21:20:43 GMT+ (which was 22:20 where I live) Marck D Pearlstone wrote and spread these wise comments on DEAD HORSE (was Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)): Luc and Mark, isn't this completely unnecessary and way off

Re: DEAD HORSE (was Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message))

2002-03-02 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Luc, On 02 March 2002 at 23:33:16 +0100 (which was 22:33 where I live) Luc wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] No, _thank you_ Marck :-) Now this is *s* ironic and you're gonna make me feel real bad, I know, but Luc? Your sig ahem

Re: DEAD HORSE (was Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message))

2002-03-02 Thread Luc
It was foretold that on 3-3-2002 @ 23:03:52 GMT+ (which was 0:03 where I live) Marck D Pearlstone wrote and spread these wise comments on DEAD HORSE (was Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)): MDP Now this is *s* ironic and you're gonna make me feel real bad, I MDP

Re: DEAD HORSE (was Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message))

2002-03-02 Thread Luc
It was foretold that on 2-3-2002 @ 23:47:39 GMT+0100 (which was 23:47 where I live) Miguel A. Urech wrote and spread these wise comments on DEAD HORSE (was Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)): MAU Luc and Mark, isn't this completely unnecessary and way off-topic of MAU

Re[3]: Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)

2002-03-02 Thread Dave Conroy
Hi Miguel, Saturday, March 2, 2002, 6:54:03 PM, you wrote: Miguel A. Urech To me, if something is superfluous, it is superfluous whether is is Miguel A. Urech one or umpteen bytes long. Well that's fine ... for you! I actually like to see peoples sig, especially on a List like this where (I

Re[2]: DEAD HORSE (was Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message))

2002-03-02 Thread Miguel A. Urech
on the list. Look Luc, you have to be a bit more coherent on what you say. Please read the rest. It was foretold that on 2-3-2002 @ 23:47:39 GMT+0100 (which was 23:47 where I live) Miguel A. Urech wrote and spread these wise comments on DEAD HORSE (was Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open

Re: Re[6]: Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)

2002-03-02 Thread Syafril Hermansyah
On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 19:39:28 +0100 Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can set kill filter to restrict POP msg size, set it as lower as you wish, then you will get...nothing :-) No, I won't do that. But I wish I could set up a filter to just extract _significant_ text out of

Re: Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)

2002-03-02 Thread Syafril Hermansyah
. Especially on high volume mailing-lists, such as this, every unneccessary byte makes the list just a little less useful or enjoyable. Actually I am agree with you, the message content is more important than greetings, sigs and others. From the archive you may seen that we have discuss about

Mailing Lists

2001-09-26 Thread Joseph N.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I seem to recall having asked this question before, and someone replied with a workaround, but I cannot find the answer. So pardon me if this looks familiar. I'm trying to use The Bat! for a distribution (mailing) list, but it doesn't seem to work

Re: Mailing Lists

2001-09-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Joseph, JN I'm trying to use The Bat! for a distribution (mailing) list, but it JN doesn't seem to work well in that capacity. I have a list of many JN names, in a format such as: JN Afirstname Alastname A.email.address, Bfirstname Blastname JN B.email.address, Cfirstname Clastname

Re[6]: getting rid of the first blrub in subject lines from mailing lists

2001-06-08 Thread David Elliott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings andrew On 07 June 2001 at 23:22:01 +0100 (which was 23:22 where I live) andrew wrote While there I found that really useful script for stripping pgp sigs and yahoo sigs from your mails. I use something like that as well. I'm sorry

getting rid of the first blrub in subject lines from mailing lists

2001-06-07 Thread andrew
Hi thebat, I recently joined a yahoo list and the subject lines always has a first , long, prefix (takes up all subject area in bat) did we say there was a way to fix this? ie. [CM-mod] FW: [cloudmakers] OT: Mile High Cloudmakers (MHCM) first meeting - Friday, June 8 - Last call... [CM-mod]

Re: getting rid of the first blrub in subject lines from mailing lists

2001-06-07 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Thursday, June 07, 2001, 1:43:47 PM, andrew wrote: I recently joined a yahoo list and the subject lines always has a first , long, prefix (takes up all subject area in bat) did we say there was a way to fix this? The list probably has a command which will get you the subject line without

Re: getting rid of the first blrub in subject lines from mailing lists

2001-06-07 Thread Shauna Scott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, The list probably has a command which will get you the subject line without adding the prefix. DAC Well, I take that back. I just looked, in hopes of removing such a DAC prefix in a yahoo group I'm in (I get TBOT digest so no such

Re[3]: getting rid of the first blrub in subject lines from mailing lists

2001-06-07 Thread andrew
Hi Dwight, thanks for checking anyway anyone else have a plan? Thursday, June 07, 2001, 8:48:33 PM, you wrote: I recently joined a yahoo list and the subject lines always has a first , long, prefix (takes up all subject area in bat) did we say there was a way to fix this? The list

Re: getting rid of the first blrub in subject lines from mailing lists

2001-06-07 Thread Melissa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, June 07, 2001, at 12:48:33 PM PDT, Dwight A Corrin wrote: Previously: The list probably has a command which will get you the subject line without adding the prefix. And now: DAC Well, I take that back. I just looked, in hopes of

Re: getting rid of the first blrub in subject lines from mailing lists

2001-06-07 Thread A Curtis Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:22:01 +0100, andrew graced us with these comments: a While there I found that really useful script for stripping pgp sigs a and yahoo sigs from your mails. I'm sorry but I've reached my a programming limit (actually that

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