Re: Moderators Announcement

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Marck,

On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 9:03:01 AM you wrote:

MP> Actually - looking again, it's a mess!!

However it winds up, I hope my filters will still continue to
work. There are those whose mails I save as my own "Manual to
TB!" :-) Their posts are usually so helpful, so I've set
subfolders in my TBUDL folder for them by name.

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Re: Moderators Announcement

[Adrian Godfrey]

Monday, July 30, 2018, 1:20:48 PM, you wrote:

> just showing you what is there. No more, no less." my TB! 
> displays all senders in the message list

That is normal. The "sender" is the mailing list itself.
What  is  important  is  what are in "From" and "reply-to". The "from"
should  be  the individual person who made the post. The "reply-to" is
normally the list address, but some have that as the actual person who
made the post.

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Re: Moderators Announcement

[Marck Pearlstone]

Dear T'Buddlers,

>> Don't  worry. Marck has already reverted the settings
>> till they find a
>> better solution.  

> That's great news!

> It's still a shame the bug 
> has not been corrected yet. Despite Marck's claim in
> 
> that "TB is just showing you what is there. No more, no less."
> my TB! displays all senders in the message list for a Yahoo group as
> just the group's email address, but only for messages downloaded
> since I upgraded to TB! 8.2. Granted that when you actually view the
> "sendername senderemail [listname]" .
> Searching on SENDER contains SENDERNAME only brings up results that
> were downloaded pre-8.2.

Actually - looking again, it's a mess!! I see messages in the list
that TB says are from me but, when I click on them, I see Maria or
Roelof are the actual senders in the From address on TBOT. I see a
transition in another list over the new year. A late December message
shows the "From" in an almost correct manner while a message from the
same individual in the same format with very similar headers is just
showing the list address as the "From".

I am adding a confirmation to the bug report.

Apologies for my incorrect analysis in the first place!

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Re: Moderators Announcement

[MFPA]

Hi


On Saturday 28 July 2018 at 12:44:00 PM, in
, MAU wrote:-


> Don't  worry. Marck has already reverted the settings
> till they find a
> better solution.  

That's great news!

It's still a shame the bug 
has not been corrected yet. Despite Marck's claim in

that "TB is just showing you what is there. No more, no less." my TB! 
displays all senders in the message list for a Yahoo group as just the 
group's email address, but only for messages downloaded since I 
upgraded to TB! 8.2. Granted that when you actually view the 
"sendername senderemail [listname]" . 
Searching on SENDER contains SENDERNAME only brings up results that 
were downloaded pre-8.2.


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Re: Moderators Announcement

[MAU]

Hello MFPA,

>> Change to list settings
>> ---
>
>> I  have received the following request from Max
>> Masiutin to modify the
>> way  the  list  addresses  out bound mail and have
>> changed the Mailman
>> settings accordingly.
>
>
> That is a pity as it gives false information. The messages are sent
> _to_ the list, they do not originate _from_ the list. 

Don't  worry. Marck has already reverted the settings till they find a
better solution.

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Re: Moderators Announcement

[MFPA]

Hi


On Monday 23 July 2018 at 11:15:08 PM, in
,
tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com wrote:-


> Hi T'Buddlers,

> Change to list settings
> ---

> I  have received the following request from Max
> Masiutin to modify the
> way  the  list  addresses  out bound mail and have
> changed the Mailman
> settings accordingly.


That is a pity as it gives false information. The messages are sent
_to_ the list, they do not originate _from_ the list. 

Will it make this list suffer from the bug that was introduced in TB! 8.2,
which I reported at ? Not 
being able to see from the message list display who posted which 
message is a major irritation on lists affected by that bug.  


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Moderators Announcement

[tbudl]

Hi T'Buddlers,

Change to list settings
---

I  have received the following request from Max Masiutin to modify the
way  the  list  addresses  out bound mail and have changed the Mailman
settings accordingly.

> Please modify list settings for TBBETA and other lists so that all
> the senders addresses (From, Reply-To, etc) are replaced to the list
> email rather then the email of the person who sent a message to the list.
>
> We have discussed this issue with you about two years ago. Now it is the time 
> to make the change.
>
> Otherwise, DMARC and DKIM give errors on messages that I send to the list.
>
> Nowadays, when DMARC and DKIM are becoming more widespread and
> strict, we have to make the change. Otherwise my messages are flagged as 
> DMARC/DKIM-fail.

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