Re: Multiple signature delimiters

2011-06-12 Thread Stephane Bouvard
Bonjour Dwight,

Le mardi 7 juin 2011 à 01:34:13, vous écriviez :

The problem occur also when your company add a disclaimer or an advertising 
beginning with a signature delimiter.  From one point, it's a good practice 
because the disclaimer is greyed out like the signature and is not quoted, but 
from another point : with TheBat!, it means that the first delimiter used for 
the real user signature is not recognised...


> the  current  behavior  is the proper one. If there is a message from 
> someone  who  doesn't  trim, or several people who don't trim, if one 
> trimmed  at the first cut mark, most of the message would be turn too 
> small  and light to read and would get ignored by most readers, or at 
> least  by  me,  because  I  would assume I had reached the end of the 
> message. If trimming at the first cut mark for replying occurred what 


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Re: Multiple signature delimiters

2011-06-07 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 6:03:33 AM, Si wrote:
 
> but then it is clearly preferred by some, and not
> all. Anyhow, I was just after a solution to a problem that I face replying
> on other message lists where the flamin' list software appends list
> information to the end of the message but precedes it with a cut-line.
 
the  main  problem  would  be  for  people who receive a digest where 
messages are merely listed together as they arrive. Assuming that the 
first message in the list contained a cut-line, the remaining messages 
would  all  shrink,  and  not  be  quotable since they were below the 
first recognized cut line.  
  
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Re: Multiple signature delimiters

2011-06-07 Thread Si
Hello Dwight,

On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 18:34:13 -0500 (your time) you said:

> the  current  behavior  is the proper one. [...]

I never questioned whether the current behaviour was the 'proper behaviour',
or not, Dwight - whatever 'proper behaviour' means; 'preferred behaviour'
might be more accurate, but then it is clearly preferred by some, and not
all. Anyhow, I was just after a solution to a problem that I face replying
on other message lists where the flamin' list software appends list
information to the end of the message but precedes it with a cut-line.

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Re: Multiple signature delimiters

2011-06-06 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Monday, June 6, 2011, 8:42:16 AM, Si wrote:
 
> If you have more than one signature delimiter - or cut-line if you like - in
> a message, TB! currently treats the last occurrence as the delimiter, and
> ignores any cut-lines before it, so unwanted signatures can still appear in
> the message body when you reply to a message. How can I get TB! to cut at
> the first occurrence of a delimiter rather than the last? 

the  current  behavior  is the proper one. If there is a message from 
someone  who  doesn't  trim, or several people who don't trim, if one 
trimmed  at the first cut mark, most of the message would be turn too 
small  and light to read and would get ignored by most readers, or at 
least  by  me,  because  I  would assume I had reached the end of the 
message. If trimming at the first cut mark for replying occurred what 
is  presumably part of the message would end up disappeared. If there 
are cut marks in the middle of material I want to include in my reply, 
I  want  it  to  stay,  and when I want a message trimmed, beyond the 
sender's actual signature at the end of the message, I want to trim it 
myself. 
  
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Re: Multiple signature delimiters

2011-06-06 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Monday 6 June 2011 at 7:44:46 PM, in
, Si wrote:


> Looks like TB! adds a space to all sig delimiters that
> follow the first occurrence... if the sigs are created
> in TB! And TB! still recognises the delimiters that
> follow and displays them as signatures. 

I don't see that behaviour in 4.0.38. Maybe it was introduced later.



> So, I'm not crazy, and I would therefore still like to
> know if anyone can suggest any creative way to deal
> with this in a reply template. 

Is there nothing at http://cgi.silverstones.com/library.php ?


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Re: Multiple signature delimiters

2011-06-06 Thread Si
Hello,

Perhaps I am not totally going bonkers, but rather slightly confused.

Looks like TB! adds a space to all sig delimiters that follow the first
occurrence... if the sigs are created in TB! And TB! still recognises the
delimiters that follow and displays them as signatures. So three sigs would
be:

  --·¶
  Nomen

  ·--·¶
  Nomen

  ·--·¶
  Nomen

  · represents a space

So TB! is actually recognising the first delimiter and hobbling the rest but
still displaying them...but only when created in TB!. But then TB! obviously
doesn't modify anything that lands in your inbox with sigs composed in
various email clients. In such a case a message then might look like this:

  --·¶
  Nomen

  --·¶
  Nomen

  --·¶
  Nomen

And then TB! of course doesn't modify anything, but cuts at the last
signature delimiter..as I thought.

So, I'm not crazy, and I would therefore still like to know if anyone can
suggest any creative way to deal with this in a reply template. I'm not that
bright when it comes to those things, but basically, if the first cut-line
has to somehow have precedence over subsequent ones.

 Sorry. I hope some kind soul can put me out of my misery. It's just a
 really annoying having to trim long sigs and quotes out of replies.

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Re: Multiple signature delimiters

2011-06-06 Thread Si
Hello,

On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 14:42:16 +0100 (my time) I said:

> [...]...TB! currently treats the last occurrence as the delimiter, and
> ignores any cut-lines before it, so unwanted signatures can still appear
> in the message body [...]

 Seems I am wrong!

 I have been sending myself test emails with multiple signatures from
 account to account in TB! and all the sigs are recognised as sigs by TB!,
 changing to default green. Replying to them does in fact remove all
 occurrences of the signatures, not just one. So that is confusing. I can
 only assume that my and others' delimiters are being modified somehow when
 the other list information is being appended to replies. If this is the
 case, is there a way to deal with this using regular expressions?

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Multiple signature delimiters

2011-06-06 Thread Si
Hello TBUDL,

This is a puzzler (for me at least):

If you have more than one signature delimiter - or cut-line if you like - in
a message, TB! currently treats the last occurrence as the delimiter, and
ignores any cut-lines before it, so unwanted signatures can still appear in
the message body when you reply to a message. How can I get TB! to cut at
the first occurrence of a delimiter rather than the last?

This is proving a pain on message lists list information is appended to the
message and preceded by a wretched cut-line, superseding your own sig.
Inevitably, when you then reply the reply contains not just the message but
the message authors signature as well, which also has to be trimmed. So I'd
like to be able to get TB! to cut at the first occurrence of the delimiter
for some lists instead. Is this possible?

Thanks.

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