Re[2]: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jonathan, On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, at 00:45:57 [GMT -0500] (which was 26/10/2003 (D/M/Y) 6:45 where I live) you wrote: JA I wish I could say it was my mail servers fault, unfortunately I JA cannot, it's TB!. It's duplicating mail in my sent folder, and not JA sending any mail, when I try forcing a send of my own, it sends the JA duplicates. However I cannot remove the duplicates (manually, or by JA using kill dupes). So I'm reluctant to use TB at the moment :/ This comes in very handy when we people are waiting to decide to upgrade to v2 or not. - -- Best regards, Joan Josep -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt - build 08 Comment: KeyID: 0xF6A61F93 iQA/AwUBP5uHw97hKWb2ph+TEQL22ACfTAnGKcj9RKJ1fkhk75eJEak2mKMAn1fs chaf/g9QVG3mMTIqx5XEP9kt =SLuB -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
Hello Jonathan, I wish I could say it was my mail servers fault, unfortunately I cannot, it's TB!. It's duplicating mail in my sent folder, and not sending any mail, when I try forcing a send of my own, it sends the duplicates. However I cannot remove the duplicates (manually, or by using kill dupes). So I'm reluctant to use TB at the moment :/ I assume so but, are you sure you are using v2.01.3 ? Eugh, and when will they make it so that if PGP isn't installed, and you have the sign on complete checked, it either tells you, or ignores the check... *grumbles* You must have some kind of corrupt installation or registry settings. I never use PGP but I have just selected Sign on complete and it is totally ignored. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
Joan Josep, [JJ] wrote: JJ This comes in very handy when we people are waiting to decide to JJ upgrade to v2 or not. I'm pretty much enjoying v2 here. I think Jonathan is using IMAP accounts exclusively. The new IMAP support is still in the teething stages and it would appear that its performance varies greatly depending on the IMAP server it interacts with. So, if you're using POP, you'll not be experiencing Jonathan's problems. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html Using TB! v2.01.7 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
Hello Jonathan, ...this is very much an out of the box IMAP install. Ahhh! I forgot you were talking about IMAP. I don't use IMAP at all, so I'm afraid I can't be of much help. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
Hello Allie, Sunday, October 26, 2003, 5:06:38 AM, you wrote: JJ This comes in very handy when we people are waiting to decide to JJ upgrade to v2 or not. AM I'm pretty much enjoying v2 here. I think Jonathan is using IMAP AM accounts exclusively. The new IMAP support is still in the AM teething stages and it would appear that its performance varies AM greatly depending on the IMAP server it interacts with. So, if AM you're using POP, you'll not be experiencing Jonathan's problems. I should have made this a little clear. Allie is correct. I am using IMAP accounts exclusively, it is suppose to make my life easier and what not ;) I'm currently trying a complete fresh install on a never used system to see if there are some odd settings I have checked are causing some issues. -- Best regards, Jonathanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
Hello MAU, Sunday, October 26, 2003, 3:53:31 AM, you wrote: I wish I could say it was my mail servers fault, unfortunately I cannot, it's TB!. It's duplicating mail in my sent folder, and not sending any mail, when I try forcing a send of my own, it sends the duplicates. However I cannot remove the duplicates (manually, or by using kill dupes). So I'm reluctant to use TB at the moment :/ M I assume so but, are you sure you are using v2.01.3 ? This has been an ongoing thing since the 2.0 beta series, still exists, I'm using the latest beta, and I'm testing if it does it again. Eugh, and when will they make it so that if PGP isn't installed, and you have the sign on complete checked, it either tells you, or ignores the check... *grumbles* M You must have some kind of corrupt installation or registry M settings. I never use PGP but I have just selected Sign on M complete and it is totally ignored. Go to the account options, check the Use OpenPGP, and Sign on complete. When I have these checked, TB doesn't do anything when I hit send. As a note on this, I've just installed TB on my new laptop, this laptop hasn't had TB installed before (only just installed Windows on thursday), I don't have my registration key put in yet, this is very much an out of the box IMAP install. I've not changed any settings (except the two mentioned above) to see if I still get this bad behaviour. -- Best regards, Jonathanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
Hello Jonathan Angliss, on 2003-10-21, 07:41, you wrote (at least in part): snip JA Unfortunately I doubt it, if anything was attempted, they would JA probably be able to get away on a technicality on what the software is JA designed to do, and not what the software is being used to. After all, JA software writers cannot always be held accountable for the software JA they write if done in good intentions. For example, they could claim JA that the software was originally designed to be used to send mail to JA willing participants. Unless you can prove otherwise, the software is JA just being miss-used (just like TB could be with the mass-mailer JA option). You were talking about De'ja Vu? Saw this one coming along about a half hour ago, with the same 'Created' time. Mailing-list problems maybe? -- Kind regards, ouwehand dot net Peter Ouwehand mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - Using The Bat! V2.01.7 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
Unfortunately I doubt it, if anything was attempted, they would probably be able to get away on a technicality on what the software is designed to do, and not what the software is being used to. You were talking about De'ja Vu? Saw this one coming along about a half hour ago, with the same 'Created' time. Mailing-list problems maybe? No... TB problems... it will not send emails properly for me, and when it does, it sends many copies of it... *grumbles* I just hit the tbtech list with about 9 copies of an email I sent the other day. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
Hi Peter, @26-Oct-2003, 01:19 +0200 (00:19 UK time) Peter Ouwehand [PO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Jonathan: PO ... Mailing-list problems maybe? Nope. A quick check of the headers shows that the mailing list was resent it from Jonathan's outbound mail server. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.01.7 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
On Saturday, October 25, 2003, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... PO ... Mailing-list problems maybe? Nope. A quick check of the headers shows that the mailing list was resent it from Jonathan's outbound mail server. I wish I could say it was my mail servers fault, unfortunately I cannot, it's TB!. It's duplicating mail in my sent folder, and not sending any mail, when I try forcing a send of my own, it sends the duplicates. However I cannot remove the duplicates (manually, or by using kill dupes). So I'm reluctant to use TB at the moment :/ Eugh, and when will they make it so that if PGP isn't installed, and you have the sign on complete checked, it either tells you, or ignores the check... *grumbles* -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Once again, Odo wins the Twister championship. Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
So I'm reluctant to use TB at the moment :/ And on that email being duplicated, I'm switching to the webmail client I write... At least this way I know that my mail is being sent, it is being copied to my sent folder, and it's not being duplicated... now to write a PGP feature into it :/ -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
On Monday, October 20, 2003, 23:18:22, Jim D wrote: And this has the aforementioned X-Mailer on/off toggle. Doesn't help too much, though: My Spamassasssin says: * 1.2 PRIORITY_NO_NAME Message has priority setting, but no X-Mailer even though the message in question was sent with normal priority. Roman -- Roman Katzer, Aachen, Germany The difference between youth and middle age is not physical. It is in how you see the soul. -- Ruth Rudner, Poet, The Sun, May 1994 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:35:04 -0700, Melissa Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's really unfortunate that this had to be fixed by those not at all at fault here. That sure is - as usual, the good suffer for the bad. Is there anything we can do to help shutdown the original spammer/software that started this whole mess? Not much, I'm afraid - educate e-mail users, change the world and weed out all Outhouse (Exp) is the only way, but way out of reach for the small minority that we are. Who is ever being taken serious when this is discussed and you mention the possibility of using /other/ than free or cracked software that is not prone to be virus-infected? Personally, 1 out of 100 times if I recall well. But as long as there are even sysadmins of huge corporations advising me to assign a pretty DNS name to our company's mailserver, in this respect I've not much confidence in fellow-bipeds. Duh. -- Cory Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
Hi The_Bat! Users, Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 3:37:10 AM, you wrote: RK My Spamassasssin says: RK * 1.2 PRIORITY_NO_NAME Message has priority setting, but no X-Mailer RK even though the message in question was sent with normal priority. Is this saying that it needs the X-Mailer header in order to get mail through? -- Regards, John Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
On Monday, October 20, 2003, Melissa Reese wrote... I just installed v2.01.3, and now there is an option under Options/Preferences/General to enable the X-Mailer header. The default now is to have the header disabled. It's really unfortunate that this had to be fixed by those not at all at fault here. Is there anything we can do to help shutdown the original spammer/software that started this whole mess? Unfortunately I doubt it, if anything was attempted, they would probably be able to get away on a technicality on what the software is designed to do, and not what the software is being used to. After all, software writers cannot always be held accountable for the software they write if done in good intentions. For example, they could claim that the software was originally designed to be used to send mail to willing participants. Unless you can prove otherwise, the software is just being miss-used (just like TB could be with the mass-mailer option). -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Code so clean...you can eat off it. Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New Version Spotted 2.01.3
Hello TBUDL, -[Begin Quote] -[Source - Ritlabs] Click Here ---) http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php -[End Quote] -- Regards, Simon Fincham Using The Bat: Version 2.01 on Windows XP Pro SP1 Build 2600 SPAM Detection:BayesIt! 0.4gm Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
On 10/20/2003, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Simon Fincham said: Click Here ---) http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php And this has the aforementioned X-Mailer on/off toggle. -- Best regards, Jim D JD -at- CastleGK -dot- com [Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Build 2600] --- 'Tis a brave man who wears the kilt in January.' --Scottish saying --- Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
Hello Jim, Monday, October 20, 2003, 2:18:22 PM, you wrote: JD On 10/20/2003, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Simon JD Fincham said: Click Here ---) http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php JD And this has the aforementioned X-Mailer on/off toggle. Where is it? -- Best regards, Stevemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
Hello Steve, Monday, October 20, 2003, 5:02:05 PM, Steve Thomas wrote: JD And this has the aforementioned X-Mailer on/off toggle. Steve Thomas Where is it? Options - preferences - general last checkbox -- Best regards, Lourdes The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
Hi Steve, on 20/10/03 you wrote: ST Where is it? I installed the new version but for some reason the old the_bat.exe was left in the folder. I manually extracted the new exe and replaced in the program file and v2.01.3 now works fine -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] More than 3.5 million children across sub-Saharan Africa have lost both parents to AIDS (source: UN 2003) Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
On 10/20/2003, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve Thomas said: JD And this has the aforementioned X-Mailer on/off toggle. Where is it? Options | Preferences It's the last checkbox. It was unchecked already on mine (meaning it's _not_ sending X-Mailer header by default). -- Best regards, Jim D JD -at- CastleGK -dot- com [Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Build 2600] --- I need this parade like I need a hole in the head. -John F. Kennedy --- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
