Re: OT Calypso (Was Re: 1.60k)
On 5/15/02 at 9:48 AM David Elliott wrote: | | I use this account for many lists, so the | won't change. I apologise | in advance to those who see the colour they do not expect. | |Are you saying that in Calypso you can not change the quote except on a |global level. = Calypso can change it on a per-account basis. However I use one account for all my lists. Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: OT Calypso (Was Re: 1.60k)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello MikeM On 15 May 2002 at 09:19:33 -0400 (which was 14:19 where I live) MikeM graced us with these comments I use this account for many lists, so the | won't change. I apologise in advance to those who see the colour they do not expect. Are you saying that in Calypso you can not change the quote except on a global level. Calypso can change it on a per-account basis. However I use one account for all my lists. Oh so it not very flexible then. :) - -- TTFN, ___ David | SecureBat! 1.60 d / iKey1000 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Server 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | Downpour!: Wayne Dwops | ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE84nVz+Yrx5mUPRTQRApn6AJsGyz2cELcyt8g0MysUI3uTLdD/RACguEy3 RomsZCdm2wOffF/dQh1ixBg= =7Jsq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: OT Calypso (Was Re: 1.60k)
On 5/15/02 at 3:49 PM David Elliott wrote: |-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- |Hash: SHA1 | |Hello MikeM | |On 15 May 2002 at 09:19:33 -0400 (which was 14:19 where I live) MikeM |graced us with these comments | | I use this account for many lists, so the | won't change. I apologise in | advance to those who see the colour they do not expect. | | Are you saying that in Calypso you can not change the quote except on a | global level. | | Calypso can change it on a per-account basis. | However I use one account for all my lists. | |Oh so it not very flexible then. :) = In that specific area, I agree. No email client has all the features everyone wants or needs. Picking an email client is a series of compromises according to the priorities of the situation. Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: OT Calypso (Was Re: 1.60k)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hail MikeM On 15 May 2002 at 11:09:55 -0400 (which was 16:09 where I live) MikeM wrote and made these points No email client has all the features everyone wants or needs. Picking an email client is a series of compromises according to the priorities of the situation. What do you feel are the good points of Calypso over The Bat! I would be more that happy to take this to the TBOT list. - -- Bye, ___ David | SecureBat! 1.60 d / iKey1000 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Server 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | Bother, said Pooh, as he cut open a Tauntaun. | ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE84oBd+Yrx5mUPRTQRAsWAAKCcvYx+HCNYfpQabubCJDSQ7SGXYACdEuCt 3OpVC+tjGT70MV/AqkW2jeM= =c+AF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: OT Calypso (Was Re: 1.60k)
On 5/15/02 at 4:35 PM David Elliott wrote: |-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- |Hash: SHA1 | |Hail MikeM | |On 15 May 2002 at 11:09:55 -0400 (which was 16:09 where I live) MikeM |wrote and made these points | | No email client has all the features everyone wants or needs. Picking an | email client is a series of compromises according to the priorities of |the | situation. | |What do you feel are the good points of Calypso over The Bat! = Only one advantage that I see -- Calypso keeps all the messages and settings in a single file. I need that for my mailing list usage. Another thing I like about Calypso (though more minor) is that the message store is encrypted (albeit, not too strongly). I haven't taken the time yet to see if TB! has a similar feature. Other than that, they are rather similar in most resects that matter to me; with the significant exception that TB! is a living growing product. Calypso has been orphaned. Having said that, I'll be moving my email usage from Outlook '97 and Calypso to TB! over the next few weeks (except for this mailing list account, which has to stay in Calypso due to the single file thing). I do like what I've seen in TB! during my eval period. And I hope to discover more good stuff as I explore. (somewhat on-topic, so I didn't move to the OT list) Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: OT Calypso (Was Re: 1.60k)
Hello MikeM, On Wed, 15 May 2002 12:16:29 -0400GMT (15-5-02, 18:16 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: M Only one advantage that I see -- Calypso keeps all the messages and M settings in a single file. I need that for my mailing list usage. I can't find any reason for myself why it would be necessary to keep those in one file. I'd consider it a bit of a nuisance to keep all messages from all lists in one file. Would you care to explain? -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: OT Calypso (Was Re: 1.60k)
On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, 19:14, Douglas Hinds wrote: M Another thing I like about Calypso (though more minor) is that the M message store is encrypted (albeit, not too strongly). I haven't M taken the time yet to see if TB! has a similar feature. I don't encrypt but many here do. No they don't since TB! does not offer encryption of the message bases (Secure Bat does, but that is a different product). Some use external software for encrypting the message bases but that was not what MikeM asked about. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.txt Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: OT Calypso (Was Re: 1.60k)
Wednesday, May 15, 2002, 11:16:29 AM, MikeM wrote: Only one advantage that I see -- Calypso keeps all the messages and settings in a single file. I need that for my mailing list usage. Why is this important? ...Not being argumentative, just curious. -- Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60 RC/2 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: OT Calypso (Was Re: 1.60k)
Hello MikeM, In reply to what you wrote on Wednesday, May 15, 2002, at 11:16:29 AM: M |What do you feel are the good points of Calypso over The Bat! I am a registered Calypso owner and also a Calypso refugee. M Only one advantage that I see -- Calypso keeps all the messages and M settings in a single file. I need that for my mailing list usage. With TB! you can either filter all mail to a single directory or use the ticker and open a virtual window from it that gives you all that's on it, together. (Allie does this). Calypso (v.3) had no multilingual dictionaries (plus it's English version was really bad) and couldn't download from multiple accounts simultaneously. M Another thing I like about Calypso (though more minor) is that the M message store is encrypted (albeit, not too strongly). Calypso crashed on me after doing a minor upgrade and wouldn't open or reinstall after that, so I had NO access to 55 mb of my email. Worst of all, MCS Dallas' Tech Support was worse than useless - they proved to be totally incapable, irresponsible and in fact insulting. I got much more help from fellow TBUDL members recuperating my mail from that file and Stefan himself has resolved a few TB! issues when needed. TB! is a stronger product and the developers are real people, who will deal and level with you. TBUDL and the other TB! lists are also valuable (if occasionally imperfect) assets. MCS Dallas has now dropped Calypso (they sell a contact manager suite w/ that name though), while TB! has come out with upgrade after upgrade, free of charge (except for the even more Secure Bat). In short, Calypso had a pretty appearance but was technologically weak and MCS Dallas can **! as far as I'm concerned. M I haven't taken the time yet to see if TB! has a similar feature. I don't encrypt but many here do. M ... TB! is a living growing product. Calypso has been orphaned. M Having said that, I'll be moving my email usage from Outlook '97 M and Calypso to TB! over the next few weeks (except for this mailing M list account, which has to stay in Calypso due to the single file M thing). You won't be sorry for having switched. M I do like what I've seen in TB! during my eval period. And I hope M to discover more good stuff as I explore. Douglas Hinds Mexico -- Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
OT Calypso (Was Re: 1.60k)
Hi TheBat!, Douglas (Anyone want a Calypso license)? Schmuel (newbie to the forum) .. greetings... I'll trade ya the Brooklyn Bridge.. Calypso has been defunct for a month or two, for awhile they gave out the last version free, then they stopped ... Isbister, creator of Time Chaos PIM, which Calypso integrated with well, recently put out their own product, Express Mail I think ... Calypso had some excellent pluses that I haven't seen replicated .. (been using Eudora, but interested in TheBat! ) Two pluses come to mind... a) multiple searches could be saved.. (in a logical mailbox) b) creating logical address books was a pure, quick drag and drop method... I stopped using Calypso because of the rebuild everything on startup if it there is a crash and at the time I had Windows 98, and large email boxes ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messianic Apologetic Email forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Messianic_Apologetic/ Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: OT Calypso (Was Re: 1.60k)
Hello Marcus, On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, 12:20:53 PM, you replied to my saying to Mike M's statement: M Another thing I like about Calypso (though more minor) is that the M message store is encrypted (albeit, not too strongly). I haven't M taken the time yet to see if TB! has a similar feature. DH I don't encrypt but many here do. MO No they don't since TB! does not offer encryption of the message bases MO (Secure Bat does, but that is a different product). Some use external MO software for encrypting the message bases but that was not what MikeM MO asked about. The implication of my statement was that since I don't encrypt, I don't have much to say say about that. OTOH, since many here DO encrypt, one of those who do would be a better source of info regarding TB's encrypting capability. I recently installed WinXP Pro on this machine and as I recall, one can fix rights for others to access certain files etc. - so there's more than one way to go in order to limit access. (I am not surprised that TB! doesn't offer encryption of the message bases or that Secure Bat does, so that's yet another option. IAC, TB! is a far better product. (Anyone want a Calypso license)? Douglas -- Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: OT Calypso (Was Re: 1.60k)
On 5/15/02 at 12:22 PM Dave Gorman wrote: Wednesday, May 15, 2002, 11:16:29 AM, MikeM wrote: Only one advantage that I see -- Calypso keeps all the messages and settings in a single file. I need that for my mailing list usage. Why is this important? ...Not being argumentative, just curious. = [I don't view it as being argumentative at all, curiosity is good.] It is a reason that is important to me, but probably not important to others. I use Calypso to follow about 15 different mailing lists. When I sign up to a list, I move the Welcome message into my Signup info folder because it usually contains good info. Additionally, the folder configuration, filters, etc. tend to be rather dynamic because I subscribe and unsubscribe to various lists about every other week or so. For example, I recently unsubscribed from the Mulberry lists and subscribed here. ;-) I read the lists from three different locations using three different computers. So, when the configuration changes, it is easier for me to just email the Calypso file to the two other locations in order to keep everything in sync (naturally, I use a different instance of Calypso to receive the file). Eventually, I'll probably bring all this into some manner of IMAP usage on my central server. But for now, emailing the single Calypso file around is simple and it works well enough for my needs. Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: OT Calypso (Was Re: 1.60k)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Schmuel, @15 May 2002, 14:35:47 -0400 (19:35 UK time) Schmuel wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Calypso had some excellent pluses that I haven't seen replicated .. (been using Eudora, but interested in TheBat! ) Two pluses come to mind... a) multiple searches could be saved.. (in a logical mailbox) TB can do this with physical mailboxes. Search results can be copied to any (including a new) folder. I've never thought of doing that. Now that I think of it, it's a pretty powerful thing to do. b) creating logical address books was a pure, quick drag and drop method... And this is needed often? Or does TB's address book groups cover the functionality? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60k-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE84rkeOeQkq5KdzaARAvktAJ9Z6g3U4vIwSBjq6oCKeUzG2+O5RwCgjmz6 YLHJ5EWpYMDBZUbRqGgZ7fs= =WStr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: OT Calypso (Was Re: 1.60k)
On 5/15/02 at 9:07 PM Jernej Simoni wrote: Hello MikeM, 15. maj 2002, 20:39:57, you wrote: I read the lists from three different locations using three different computers. So, when the configuration changes, it is easier for me to just email the Calypso file to the two other locations in order to keep everything in sync (naturally, I use a different instance of Calypso to receive the file). Did you ever try the Sync (Tools-Synchronization) ability in The Bat? = Not at this point. Calypso does what I need it to do for my mailing lists. I am currently migrating to TB! for my other email accounts where things (specifically Outlook '97) are not working so well. Eventually, I suspect, I shall be fully TB!'d. Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: OT Calypso (Was Re: 1.60k)
On Wed, 15 May 2002, [ISO-8859-2] Jernej Simonèiè wrote: Hello MikeM, 15. maj 2002, 20:39:57, you wrote: I read the lists from three different locations using three different computers. So, when the configuration changes, it is easier for me to just email the Calypso file to the two other locations in order to keep everything in sync (naturally, I use a different instance of Calypso to receive the file). Did you ever try the Sync (Tools-Synchronization) ability in The Bat? Well that is terribly complicated. I tried it once. Took very long. No sign it did anything. The Help was very confusing with that, but tried to follow every step. Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
