PGP keys automation running amok?

2001-07-03 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Chema!

On Tuesday, July 03, 2001 at 8:40:03 AM you wrote:

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 Hello John,

Something is definitely wrong here. Have changed anything in your PGP
automation process, Chema?

Or is the error on John's side?


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Re: PGP keys automation running amok?

2001-07-03 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Dierk,

On 03 July 2001 at  09:05:56 +0200 (which was 08:05 where I live)
Dierk Haasis wrote to Chema Berian and made these points:

 ***This is an Automated Reply***

DH Something is definitely wrong here. Have changed anything in your
DH PGP automation process, Chema?

DH Or is the error on John's side?

The error is on both sides to an extent. The SendPGPkeys filter
needs to list exclusion addresses (ignore requests from known lists).
That's simple enough to do.

As for John... (and HomeSick Mac - please read this carefully). This
is the moderatorial trouting Thomas mentioned.

stock lecture
I have a pet hate in TB. That pet hate is named Folder Templates. In
150 folders I have two and only two that have folder templates. They
are for two specific lists which don't set the reply address properly.

There is nothing else for which folder templates can be used that
can't be covered and even improved upon using Address Book templates.
There are dangers in using Folder Templates that are not there when
you use AB templates.

The dangers are all complacency based and are at their worst in
templates which use the [EMAIL PROTECTED] without a  before it. So any
pre-existing addresses are retained.

Back to the lecture: every time I say this, someone takes exception to
something I've said with comments like 'danger' is a bit harsh or
I've used Folder templates for ages and it's never gone wrong for
me.

Here's a fact for you: it goes wrong. That's why I'm writing this
message yet again.

It works exactly as designed and that design has a fundamental flaw.
The flaw is that it places too much responsibility on the user to make
sure that the addresses given on a new message are those intended.

With address book templates, there is never a mistake of this kind.
Replies are perfectly directed. New messages are a bit trickier.
Instead of clicking to the folder then clicking for a new message, you
have to click to the right of the new message button and select the
list address from the favourites (having denoted that the address *is*
a favourite in the address book).
/stock lecture

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Address Book Templates (was: Re: PGP keys automation running amok?)

2001-07-03 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hi Marck,

Historians believe that Tue, 3 Jul 2001 at 11:14 GMT +0100 was when,
Marck D Pearlstone [MP] typed the following:

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MP I have a pet hate in TB. That pet hate is named Folder Templates.

The only thing I would add is that folder level templates are
dangerous when people use the %TO, %CC or %BCC macros. But I think you
alluded to that point.

MP In 150 folders I have two and only two that have folder templates.
MP They are for two specific lists which don't set the reply address
MP properly.

Could you eliminate even those two folder level templates with some
creative filtering and batch files?

What I was thinking is:  Create a new address book with two groups
(one for each list).  You can customize the group templates as you see
fit.  Now exit TB and copy this blank AB to a safe location.

Now have your filters automatically add the sender to the appropriate
group.  Of course this means that your address book is going to fill
up rather quickly.  To compensate, every couple of days, you can
overwrite the full AB with the blank backup.  With a two line script
and Windows Task Scheduler, it should be a fairly easy task.

It seems to me, this would be just as effective as folder level
templates, and slightly safer too.

Just a thought.

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Thanks for writing,
 Januk Aggarwal

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