.50 points, 5 required; * 3.0 -- Message
>> has been marked by MDaemon's Spam Blocker * 3.5 -- Forged mail pretending to
>> be from The Bat! End of SpamAssassin results
> Some sysadmins are just stupid. I am NOT "pretending" to use The Bat!, I
> _am_ _using_ The B
Hello Alexander,
Saturday, February 19, 2005, 3:08:08 PM, you wrote:
ASK> The
ASK> point is that a totally legit message created with TB v3.0.2.10 or 3.0.1.33
ASK> will get a spam rating from SA because of the wrong "FORGED_MUA_THEBAT"
ASK> problem, so I'm back to my statement that they shouldn'
Hello Thomas Fernandez & everyone else,
on 19-Feb-2005 at 13:53 you (Thomas Fernandez) wrote:
> The faked X-Mailer a spam software created was a TB version, but there
> was another header in those mails that wold be created only by Outlook,
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal. That's how the faked X-Mail
Hello Alexander,
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 10:03:08 +0100 GMT (19/02/2005, 16:03 +0700 GMT),
Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
ASK> Everyone can fake the X-Mailer header so that it contains the
ASK> identification of a genuine mail program. The spam I get claims to be (or
ASK> is) written with Microsoft Outlook
Hello Robin,
> Well, so am I. But to prevent possible problems such as you encounter, I
> disguise my mailer slightly - see my X-mailer header. Actually, I use
> one of a list of 21 equivalents to The Bat! in a variety of languages.
But that is still like hiding part of my identity and I don't se
Hello Mica,
> <%COMMENT="This is The Bat!, (wo)man. :tbflag: Accept this fact, leave
> this message alone (virgo intacta) and live in peace.">
I think I'm going to do something like that. Great Idea! :-)
> But I doubt that anyone could talk effectively with an administrator, or
> even anti-spam
Hello Roman Katzer & everyone else,
on 19-Feb-2005 at 05:40 you (Roman Katzer) wrote:
>> Interesting. This SpamAssassin must really be badly maintained.
> Actually, it's pretty well maintained
Everyone can fake the X-Mailer header so that it contains the
identification of a genuine mail program
On Friday, February 18, 2005, 11:45:37, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
> Interesting. This SpamAssassin must really be badly maintained.
Actually, it's pretty well maintained. They just have difficulties with
adjusting to new TB versions but _will_ do their best to do so.
Post a bug report at http://bu
On Sat 19 February 2005, 4:21:49 +1000, Mau wrote:
> Yes, I know. But I don't want to hide the fact that I am using The Bat!.
> I _am_ proud of using TB.
Well, so am I. But to prevent possible problems such as you encounter, I
disguise my mailer slightly - see my X-mailer header. Actually, I use
o
Hi MAU,
on Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:21:49 +0100GMT, you wrote:
>> You can turn off the X-Mailer header.
>> Options -> Preferences => General -> UNCHECK "Use X-Mailer header in
>> messages"
M> Yes, I know. But I don't want to hide the fact that I am using The Bat!.
You shouldn't.
M> I _am_ proud
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@ @ at 18:21:49 +0100, when MAU wrote:
> I don't want to hide the fact that I am using The Bat!. I _am_ proud
> of using TB.
We have even TB flag(s). (-:
So we ca
Hello Chris & everyone else,
on 18-Feb-2005 at 17:59 you (Chris) wrote:
> Because of its macros and templateing system, The Bat! has been
> considered a spam tool by some anti-spam companies.
AFAIK there once was a bulk email software that would create fake X-Mailer
headers. But, in that softwar
Hello Chris,
> You can turn off the X-Mailer header.
> Options -> Preferences => General -> UNCHECK "Use X-Mailer header in
> messages"
Yes, I know. But I don't want to hide the fact that I am using The Bat!.
I _am_ proud of using TB.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Hello Alexander,
> I told them that TheBat is not a forged MUA, but I have little hope that it
> will actually change anything, this topic has been brought up often enough
> and nothing has changed ever since.
Yes, it is a difficult battle. What I did was to let the recipients know
that their sys
Hello Marc,
> What's the rest of the header look like? I didn't see anything
> identifying MUA or MTA in the section you quoted.
What I quoted is the error message I received, not the headers.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10
Winamp Playing: Ver
MAU @ 2005-Feb-18 10:48:12 AM
""Pretending" to use The Bat!" <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> As many of you know, blaming The Bat! for spam is not an new issue. Look
> what I got yesterday:
>> Start SpamAssassin results 6.50 points, 5 required; * 3.0 -- M
in results
>>
>> : Message contains [1] file attachments
> Some sysadmins are just stupid. I am NOT "pretending" to use The Bat!, I
> _am_ _using_ The Bat!
Interesting. This SpamAssassin must really be badly maintained. I sent a
support inquiry to my provider yesterda
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Hello All,
Friday, February 18, 2005, 9:48:12 AM, MAU wrote:
M> As many of you know, blaming The Bat! for spam is not an new issue. Look
M> what I got yesterday:
>> MDaemon has indentified your message as spam. It will not be delivered.
>>
>> From : [EMA
, 5 required; * 3.0 -- Message
> has been marked by MDaemon's Spam Blocker * 3.5 -- Forged mail pretending to
> be from The Bat! End of SpamAssassin results
>
> : Message contains [1] file attachments
Some sysadmins are just stupid. I am NOT "pretending" to use The
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