Re: Proxy servers
On 29 June 2003, 01:09, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: By definition, a proxy server should be on a LAN. An ISP would not be running a proxy server for users. I've never heard of that setup. Of course, I could be wrong, but it makes no sense to me. ~~~ FWIW, my ISP (Plusnet) runs a proxy for its users. However, they do give the option whether to use the proxy. Does the OP have a similar choice? -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK -- Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Press any button to continue, any other button to quit Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Proxy servers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Geoff, @29-Jun-2003, 08:29 Geoff Lane [GL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: By definition, a proxy server should be on a LAN. An ISP would not be running a proxy server for users. I've never heard of that setup. Of course, I could be wrong, but it makes no sense to me. GL FWIW, my ISP (Plusnet) runs a proxy for its users. However, they GL do give the option whether to use the proxy. Does the OP have a GL similar choice? Actually, now that you mention it, I remember using an ISP Proxy. It's not quite the same thing as a full blown proxy server. It's more of an intermediate pre-fetch cache to smooth access of remote sites when client bandwidth is narrow. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPv66pjnkJKuSnc2gEQIyQQCfc+ExosrUTQ/6kk2DBbUuSrBc51gAn1Ps 1YkihzKWdtFLmL1SHgsc/g2O =9EnN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Proxy servers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, June 29, 2003, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... GL FWIW, my ISP (Plusnet) runs a proxy for its users. However, they GL do give the option whether to use the proxy. Does the OP have a GL similar choice? Actually, now that you mention it, I remember using an ISP Proxy. It's not quite the same thing as a full blown proxy server. It's more of an intermediate pre-fetch cache to smooth access of remote sites when client bandwidth is narrow. Blue Yonder/Telewest used to run a caching proxy server, though you could disable it if you wished. It made things a lot more efficient, and page loads were a lot quicker when it was working properly. From time to time it was a little glitchy. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPv8WFiuD6BT4/R9zEQL/0QCgo3xX2Vnw9XJX19d63CvYiN1z3BcAoOP0 wi+88xTnZYa6yGOZuh0LVZdn =cLaF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Proxy servers
today my Internet Access has been changed from DialUp to rasPPPOE using a Ethernet Card and I need to use a proxy server. My Internet Explorer.Connection settings work fine and I can browse effortlessly but The Bat! does not connect to any pop server. Is it a matter of configuring TB! to use the proxy server. Should it not detect network settings as configured for Internet Explorer. (OE fails to retrieve mail too even though it shares proxy settings with IE). Any help is appreciated. PS: Once this is solved I'll need to look into getting my FTP client to Work. -- Best regards, Mean Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Proxy servers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mean, Saturday, June 28, 2003, 11:12:48 PM, you wrote: MD today my Internet Access has been changed from DialUp to rasPPPOE MD using a Ethernet Card and I need to use a proxy server. My Internet MD Explorer.Connection settings work fine and I can browse effortlessly MD but The Bat! does not connect to any pop server. Is it a matter of MD configuring TB! to use the proxy server. Should it not detect network MD settings as configured for Internet Explorer. (OE fails to retrieve MD mail too even though it shares proxy settings with IE). It sounds like you've not configured your network correctly. The proxy settings are typically for HTTP (and FTP). It's not used for mail. I presume you're using xDSL or cable and have a modem router with it's own IP. If this doesn't run DHCP you may need to set this as your default gateway in the network settings dialogue. MD Any help is appreciated. A little more information would be helpful; e.g. what OS, modem/router, network settings etc. you are currently using. MD PS: Once this is solved I'll need to look into getting my FTP client MD to Work. I expect this isn't working for the same reason you have no e-mail. M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 1.63 Beta/11 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPv4lEFv+PP8p0/caEQIHWQCfbOVda5JgcxYm19TEcsICVO8YBCcAoNsF VOrIe8r6C6q1G+uMlUhCc87A =NMEs -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Proxy servers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mean, @29-Jun-2003, 03:42 +0530 (23:12 UK time) Mean Drake [MD] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Bat: MD .. Is it a matter of configuring TB! to use the proxy server. Yes. Proxy servers do not usually provide proxying for the primary mail server ports. MD Should it not detect network settings as configured for Internet MD Explorer. No. MD (OE fails to retrieve mail too even though it shares proxy MD settings with IE). Quite right. MD Any help is appreciated. If I need to access any POP3 (inbound) mail servers through my proxy here, I have to define mapped ports to translate (proxy) my local connections to port on proxy.silverstones.com to port 110 on pop3.email_isp.net. This is fairly easy if you only have one POP3 service to hit. Then you only have to use direct mapping of the local 110 port to the remote 110 port. It gets more complex when you have multiple servers to query. Then you have to start using local (mapped on the proxy server) port numbers of 5110, 6110, 7110, etc. To do any of this you need direct administrative access to the proxy server to be able to map these ports to the external servers as required. You would have to configure any email software to address the pop3 server through your proxy server on the mapped port (e.g. proxy.lan.net, port 7110). Using NAT may well make this completely unnecessary, but I have yet to get to grips with NAT, having got my proxy completely under control and working to my every whim here. MD PS: Once this is solved I'll need to look into getting my FTP MD client to Work. Again, this is about the proxy server supporting FTP proxy service. Mine does this on port 8021 and you have to tell your FTP client (which are you using?) to use a firewall/proxy on proxy.lan.net on port 8021 (or whatever). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPv4oUjnkJKuSnc2gEQKYbQCfZFMbOpC+28CpJXWmIZzlkezP6x4AoIof oZNCAeYxG2pbzV/BSqs1a3Ix =PP+5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Proxy servers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marck, [M] wrote: MD .. Is it a matter of configuring TB! to use the proxy server. M Yes. Proxy servers do not usually provide proxying for the primary M mail server ports. Yes. This is what had me stuck while I was away one year ago. My Internet access was via a LAN proxy. I had to use web mail during that period ... yuk! The only way to really check mail is if the ISP server running the proxy service also runs it's own mailserver. This was the setup for years at the University I attended. You could only use the mailservers on the ISP network. M If I need to access any POP3 (inbound) mail servers through my M proxy here, I have to define mapped ports to translate (proxy) my M local connections to port on proxy.silverstones.com to port 110 M on pop3.email_isp.net. Wouldn't this mean that you have admin rights to the proxy server software? It doesn't seem that he does. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA+AwUBPv4qbFfJ62ArBxfiEQJb4gCYsPYHOVF6VYFS3KBm1U5UjBCnlgCgwDaS nfE1enyOMlxF+QoQWkk+KOk= =G+ya -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Proxy servers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Allie, @28-Jun-2003, 18:53 -0500 (00:53 UK time) Allie Martin [A] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: M If I need to access any POP3 (inbound) mail servers through my M proxy here, I have to define mapped ports to translate (proxy) M my local connections to port on proxy.silverstones.com to M port 110 on pop3.email_isp.net. A Wouldn't this mean that you have admin rights to the proxy server A software? It doesn't seem that he does. By definition, a proxy server should be on a LAN. An ISP would not be running a proxy server for users. I've never heard of that setup. Of course, I could be wrong, but it makes no sense to me. What I didn't say is that similar mappings have to be set to convey port 25 access to the correct and required SMTP server. The way I have handled all of this here is to run a mail server alongside the proxy on the machine with primary internet access and TB just talks to that server, which has already collected my mail from various sources and distributes it for me (and the rest of the family) on the outbound side. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA+AwUBPv4uLDnkJKuSnc2gEQLbeQCYqPAbSQjKDU2p8oA5a6P8Od+GuACgxPcI Df1N4yyLkovVlGPNC2t9R2Y= =egrD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Proxy servers
Sunday, June 29, 2003, 5:00:18 AM, you wrote: It sounds like you've not configured your network correctly. The proxy settings are typically for HTTP (and FTP). It's not used for mail. I presume you're using xDSL or cable and have a modem router with it's own IP. If this doesn't run DHCP you may need to set this as your default gateway in the network settings dialogue. Thank everybody. Got things to work after all. Put in DNS servers manually instead of auto-detect and configured default gateway and things are up and running. -- Best regards, Mean Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
