Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Hello Thomas, M All I need is an Outgoing filter with filter 'Any message' and action M 'Move to the folder \\MAU\Familia\%ToName' Either this is the last filter and all other messages are caught by other filters, you will need to key in the ToNames of your family members, correct? I was just pointing out a 'generic' way of doing it. Where to put the filter may/will depend on your own filter structure. Anyway, Marek has pointed out an even better way of doing this. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Hello Alexander, On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 22:39:07 +0100 GMT (04/03/2006, 04:39 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK Incoming and Sent are separate filters in TB. You need two filters. One for ASK the incoming message, one for the outgoing message. You might want to support the wish One kind of filters: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3319 -- Cheers, Thomas. Was ist das Problem der heutigen Gesellschaft - mangelndes Wissen oder mangelndes Interesse? - Weiss ich nicht, ist mir auch egal. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.71.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Hello MAU, On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 00:04:51 +0100 GMT (05/03/2006, 06:04 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M All I need is an Outgoing filter with filter 'Any message' and action M 'Move to the folder \\MAU\Familia\%ToName' Either this is the last filter and all other messages are caught by other filters, you will need to key in the ToNames of your family members, correct? M Of course, I have an equivalent Incoming filter using %FromName. And I M believe this also works with %FromAddress and %ToAddress. I use FromAdress for incoming filters from family members or friends, because their FromName changes, depending on whether they sent from home, office, or the web interface. M And if you tick the appropriate box, the folder will be created if M doesn't exist. Which would apply for any new members of the family. This doesn't happen very often (at least over here), so you might be scattered with new folders when you send mails to anybody who is not covered by the filters yet. -- Cheers, Thomas. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.71.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Hello Maksym, M All I need is an Outgoing filter with filter 'Any message' and action M 'Move to the folder \\MAU\Familia\%ToName' M Of course, I have an equivalent Incoming filter using %FromName. And I M believe this also works with %FromAddress and %ToAddress. And if you M tick the appropriate box, the folder will be created if doesn't exist. Thank you so much! I didn't even try it that way after I tried some other macros in filters and those didn't work. But I've tried this one right now, and it works fine. Again, lots of thanks here! It's at least a big part of the solution I need. Sorry for my late reply. I've been busy and having hardware problems also. I know you would like that :) I'll try and play with other macros in the filter action. I've already tried %FolderName in the (vain) hope that if I start a reply (or a new message) from a certain folder, it will place the sent message into that folder. However, it turns out that this macro returns Outbox, i.e., whenever you start writing a message, TB! makes Outbox the current folder (even though folder focus doesn't move in the main program window). Does anybody know how to get (if it's possible) an expression to return Name of the folder where a message being replied to is stored? :) When Outgoing filters are applied the message is in the Outbox, that is why %FolderName returns Outbox. Try using %FolderName in a new message or reply template and you will see it returns the proper folder name (just the name, not the path). One thing I tries some time ago was to use the Comments header to 'save' the folder name. In my reply templates I included the line: %Comments=Foldername That part works. But then I tried to use %Comments in the filter and that didn't seem to work. Too bad :-( -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
hi, Friday, March 3, 2006, 10:45:50 PM, you wrote: You must create a sent filter for each recipient that will move the reply to the appropriate folder. move? in Maksim's setup, this works okay only until he'll reply to 2 or more customers in one message. -- regards, vitaliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Alexander S. Kunz wrote:. ASK on 06-Mrz-2006 at 12:08 you (vitalie vrabie) wrote: You must create a sent filter for each recipient that will move the reply to the appropriate folder. move? in Maksim's setup, this works okay only until he'll reply to 2 or more customers in one message. ASK Additional restrictions may apply, sure. ASK I for one never reply to two individual customers in one message. :-) Fair enough. Usually, I don't do that either. Regards, Maksym -- Maksym Kozub(+380 44)424-1792(tel./fax), (+380 67)466-5174(mob.) Translations Interpreting Editing MK881-UANIChttp://kozub.in.ua[EMAIL PROTECTED] (website temporarily unaccessible) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Hello MFPA, Sunday, March 5, 2006, 5:57:55 PM, you wrote: M The condition is ADDRESS GROUP 'SHS' CONTAINS first recipient. M ADDRESS GROUP = SHS would not say whether you were testing the M sender, the recipient, cc, bcc,... Well, actually it doesn't matter because the sender is a member of the group and any CC or BCC would also be a member of the group. M Perhaps all the entries in the SHS AB group could have an entry of M SHS in the memo field, for example. Then you could try filtering M on the condition memo matches SHS. That would probably work but you never know with TB! I may try it, thanks. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now running TB! v3.65.03 from Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
MAU wrote: M All I need is an Outgoing filter with filter 'Any message' and action M 'Move to the folder \\MAU\Familia\%ToName' M Of course, I have an equivalent Incoming filter using %FromName. And I M believe this also works with %FromAddress and %ToAddress. And if you M tick the appropriate box, the folder will be created if doesn't exist. Thank you so much! I didn't even try it that way after I tried some other macros in filters and those didn't work. But I've tried this one right now, and it works fine. Again, lots of thanks here! It's at least a big part of the solution I need. I'll try and play with other macros in the filter action. I've already tried %FolderName in the (vain) hope that if I start a reply (or a new message) from a certain folder, it will place the sent message into that folder. However, it turns out that this macro returns Outbox, i.e., whenever you start writing a message, TB! makes Outbox the current folder (even though folder focus doesn't move in the main program window). Does anybody know how to get (if it's possible) an expression to return Name of the folder where a message being replied to is stored? :) Best regards, Maksym -- Maksym Kozub(+380 44)424-1792(tel./fax), (+380 67)466-5174(mob.) Translations Interpreting Editing MK881-UANIChttp://kozub.in.ua[EMAIL PROTECTED] (website temporarily unaccessible) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Hi On Saturday 4 March 2006 at 5:17:00 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg wrote: You might want to use MAU's suggestion in TBBETA of using a password protected 'Archive' account in TB. It frees up lots of memory unless you open the password protected account to do searches. That is an excellent idea and you might consider supporting the wish at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5719 -- Best regards, MFPA Keep them dry and don't feed them after midnight Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Hi On Sunday 5 March 2006 at 7:56:33 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jack S. LaRosa wrote: I have a similar problem/request as stated by Maksym in the original post. Namely, I have created an ADDRESS GROUP called SHS and would like all messages *TO* members of this group to be routed to a specific folder other than the SENT MAIL folder. I have created a filter in the OUTGOING MAIL folder which has as it's condition: ADDRESS GROUPS = SHS but then I am forced to select CONTAIN and FIRST RECIPIENT (first recipient seems to work best but not perfect) to complete the filter. Isn't there a way to simply have ADDRESS GROUPS = SHS be the *only* condition to be met? The condition is ADDRESS GROUP 'SHS' CONTAINS first recipient. ADDRESS GROUP = SHS would not say whether you were testing the sender, the recipient, cc, bcc,... Perhaps all the entries in the SHS AB group could have an entry of SHS in the memo field, for example. Then you could try filtering on the condition memo matches SHS. Have not tested this theory. -- Best regards, MFPA Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK You must create a sent filter for each recipient that will move the reply ASK to the appropriate folder. This method would work, except that I would have to create dozens of those filters :). I hoped there is some way to do it once and forever... ASK I find that a bit inconvenient because I don't like to mix the physical ASK copies of incoming and outgoing messages. For me, that's OK to have them mized. Tastes differ :). ASK Thus, my personal approach is to do that with virtual folders. I tend to avoid using VF. With thousands of messsages, they considerably slow down my TB!. Besides, it would need manual creation of a VF for each recipient, and, as I already said, I'm looking for a more general way (something like a sent mail filter For each %ToName, move the message into %ToName folder). Anyway, thank you! Regards, Maksym -- Maksym Kozub(+380 44)424-1792(tel./fax), (+380 67)466-5174(mob.) Translations Interpreting Editing MK881-UANIChttp://kozub.in.ua[EMAIL PROTECTED] (website temporarily unaccessible) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I hoped there is some way to do it once and forever... ASK I fear there isn't. ASK I think this is a long standing wish. Well, let's wait and see then... I tend to avoid using VF. With thousands of messsages, they considerably slow down my TB!. ASK Really? I have about 17000 messages in TB currently and... erm... ASK (counting) 13 VFs, its not slow here. I have about 185,000 messages (and no, I will not move them to the archive, since I need to do some search through professional mailing lists etc. every now then). -- Maksym Kozub(+380 44)424-1792(tel./fax), (+380 67)466-5174(mob.) Translations Interpreting Editing MK881-UANIChttp://kozub.in.ua[EMAIL PROTECTED] (website temporarily unaccessible) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Richard Wakeford wrote: RW You can get round that if you BCC to yourself. When your BCC comes back RW you can have the recipient and sender in the same inbox filter. You can RW also have two physical copies of your message. One in the sent folder RW (the main message) and the BCC filtered as a reply to the original RW poster in the thread. Well, I would prefer to avoid (for a number of reasons) BCC-ing ezch and every message I send... Thanks for the idea, though. Regards, Maksym -- Maksym Kozub(+380 44)424-1792(tel./fax), (+380 67)466-5174(mob.) Translations Interpreting Editing MK881-UANIChttp://kozub.in.ua[EMAIL PROTECTED] (website temporarily unaccessible) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Hello Maksym, Sorry if this one has been asked (and answered) before, but I can't find it. Are you participating in TBUDL also? I asked the same question two weeks ago there, and Roelof gave me a very in depth answer: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe you want to have a look if there is a solution for your situation there (I found one for my situation ;-) -- Martin TB! 3.71.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Hello Maksym, I'm looking for a more general way (something like a sent mail filter For each %ToName, move the message into %ToName folder). That is already possible with TB, exactly what you want. I use it for my family in my MAU account. All I need is an Outgoing filter with filter 'Any message' and action 'Move to the folder \\MAU\Familia\%ToName' Of course, I have an equivalent Incoming filter using %FromName. And I believe this also works with %FromAddress and %ToAddress. And if you tick the appropriate box, the folder will be created if doesn't exist. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Hello MAU everyone else, on 05-Mrz-2006 at 00:04 you (MAU) wrote: All I need is an Outgoing filter with filter 'Any message' and action 'Move to the folder \\MAU\Familia\%ToName' W... W... Wait a minute... its possible to use macros/variables there? I never knew that. Thats amazing! -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Timelapse (10:52) by Ishq from the 2005 album 'Timelapse in Mercury' Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Hello Alexander, All I need is an Outgoing filter with filter 'Any message' and action 'Move to the folder \\MAU\Familia\%ToName' W... W... Wait a minute... its possible to use macros/variables there? I never knew that. Thats amazing! No one knows everything that can be done with TB, not eve RIT guys ;-) I believe it's only a few macros that can be used, but I don't remember exactly which. Certainly %ToName, %FromName, %ToAddress and %FromAdrress can, but I don't know which others, if any. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Hello Maksym Kozub everyone else, on 03-Mrz-2006 at 19:41 you (Maksym Kozub) wrote: I have a number of 'per recipient' mail folders in The Bat! (e.g. each customer has his very own folder assigned). I'd like to get my replies to those people saved automatically to the respective folders rather then to my Sent folder. (It's more convenient for me to see correspondence with a customer in one thread, etc.) Is there any way (maybe using macros?) to get it done that way? You must create a sent filter for each recipient that will move the reply to the appropriate folder. I find that a bit inconvenient because I don't like to mix the physical copies of incoming and outgoing messages. Thus, my personal approach is to do that with virtual folders. I simply create a new virtual folder that will check if either from or to address are the recipient I want to track conversations with, and let the VF watch the sent mail folder and any other folders in questions. For example, I have a friends and family folder where all personal conversation goes (an incoming filter based on an address book group, known filter style); subfolders of that folder are VFs that filter as described above. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Remember men, we're fighting for this woman's honour; which is probably more than she ever did. -- Groucho Marx Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Hello Maksym,
There might well be a more sophisticated method. BUT if the recipients
are filtered into their folders using filters based on the sender,
then your replies can be filtered into the same folder using a filter
with the recipient providing the condition for the filter.
If [EMAIL PROTECTED] is filtered into a folder when they send
you an email, you can add an OR condition that filters mails from you
to the same folder when a.recipient is the recipient of the message
sent from you. Hope this is clear.
A reminder of what Maksym Kozub typed on:
03 March 2006 at 18:39:59 GMT +
MK I have a number of 'per recipient' mail folders in The Bat! (e.g. each
MK customer has his very own folder assigned). I'd like to get my replies
MK to those people saved automatically to the respective folders rather
MK then to my Sent folder. (It's more convenient for me to see
MK correspondence with a customer in one thread, etc.) Is there any way
MK (maybe using macros?) to get it done that way?
--
Best regards,David.
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Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Hello David Bevington everyone else, on 03-Mrz-2006 at 22:24 you (David Bevington) wrote: If [EMAIL PROTECTED] is filtered into a folder when they send you an email, you can add an OR condition that filters mails from you to the same folder when a.recipient is the recipient of the message sent from you. Hope this is clear. Incoming and Sent are separate filters in TB. You need two filters. One for the incoming message, one for the outgoing message. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: The Solitary Circle (6:17) by Vidna Obmana from the album 'The River Of Appearance' Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Hello Alexander, On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ASK Incoming and Sent are separate filters in TB. You need two filters. One for ASK the incoming message, one for the outgoing message. You can get round that if you BCC to yourself. When your BCC comes back you can have the recipient and sender in the same inbox filter. You can also have two physical copies of your message. One in the sent folder (the main message) and the BCC filtered as a reply to the original poster in the thread. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.71.03 with SpamPal POP3 account and no Plug-ins | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro 3.0, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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