Re[2]: unable to send messages - actual information

[David]

-- Original Message --
From: "Achdut18" 
To: tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com
Sent: 07/06/2016 06:42:51
Subject: Re: unable to send messages - actual information

A few hours ago I wrote that I would update to ver 7 and try again to 
send e-mail from my 1and1.com accounts.


Sadly, despite having upgraded to ver 7, I am STILL unable to send 
e-mail from my 1and1.com accounts.   I will either have to abandon The 
Bat or find another e-mail host.   The present situation is not 
tenable.   One solution means a lot of downtime in altering settings 
and transferring files., or altering settings and losing web-based 
files.  Neither one of the solutions is optimal.  Preferably, the Bat 
developers and the administrators at 1and1.com would sit down together 
to figure out how to solve this problem.  I have also opened up a 
ticket with The Bat support team on this issue.



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Avi

Avram Sacks, using The Bat! Pro ver. 7.1.18 on Win 7 Pro



Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
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I am not sure if my last message got through but have been playing 
around with things


I found that ver 7 was the same. So I then uninstalled TB and ran a 
registry cleaner (Reg Seeker) to clear out all instances of The Bat.


On install it found the accounts but was faulting. I then changed the 
settings to:-


SMTP - Regular and port 587. Authentication - selected the first two 
items


POP - Regular and port 110. Authentication - Regular

I don't know if cleaning the registry was necessary but I now have it 
working again.


Hope this helps

David


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Re[2]: unable to send messages - actual information

[David]

-- Original Message --
From: "Marck Pearlstone" 
To: "Forums on TBUDL" 
Sent: 06/06/2016 12:31:21
Subject: Re: unable to send messages - actual information


Dear David,

@06-Jun-2016, 1:06  +  (06-Jun 12:11 here) David [F] in
mid:em2c338905-d69c-476d-8309-2ae31b6203c2@david-npc said:

... 

F> I don't understand all this authentication. Nothing has changed at 
my

F> end.

It  is crystal clear that something fundamental was changed at the 1&1
server  end that stops TB authentication from working. I see that they
have 2 named SMTP servers:

auth.smtp.1and1.co.uk
smtp.1and1.co.uk

Which are you using?


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Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! 
v7.1.18.10 (BETA) on Windows 10.0.10586


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Thanks Marck

I am using auth.smtp.1and1.co.uk. Tried the other but reports there is 
no such server.


I will try ringing them again later.

David


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Re[2]: unable to send messages - actual information

[David]

-- Original Message --
From: "Harald Faber" 
To: tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com
Sent: 06/06/2016 10:02:48
Subject: Re: unable to send messages - actual information


Hi all,

I have found the following thread in a German TheBat board:

https://www.batboard.net/index.php/Thread/13294-TB-4-2-44-2-kann-pl%C3%B6tzlich-keine-Mails-mehr-versenden-1-1-gmx/

The trouble might have to do with SPF which has been introduced for 
1und1, gmx, web.de:


http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/United-Internet-verschaerft-Spam-Bekaempfung-3225281.html 
(German)



Up to now there are two options to be able to send mails via client 
again:


1. Update TheBat to v.6.6 or higher. They work and cause no trouble. 
For me it costs money for the upgrade: 19,95 Eur for the Home version, 
29,95 Eur for the pro version (both plus taxes)


2. Use a different Email-client like Thunderbird which costs 0 Eur.

I have not decided yet what I will do. As I use Voyager, I'd need to 
upgrade my pro version for almost 40 Euro which also *might* solve my 
other issue with TheBat crashing with "TMail message released before 
its use". OTOH if that crash does not get fixed, it would be a 40 Eur 
for a single "bugfix", because the current version I have, 5.x, does 
all I need and want concerning functionality. I think I will take a 
look at Thunderbird and all its functions and plugins whether they can 
compete with TheBat concerning filters, address books, postbox 
inspector and templates.


And it would make a possible switch from Windows to Linux definitely 
more attractive, or does Ritlabs plan to release a Mac or Linux 
version?


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I tried ver 7 and the problem still exists. I am using eMClient at the 
moment which is ok and free, but would prefer to have TB working 
correctly.


I don't understand all this authentication. Nothing has changed at my 
end.






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