Wednesday, October 20, 1999
Hello Sergey,
Wednesday, Wednesday, October 20, 1999, you wrote:
Sergey>>> How to remove debugger checking from the The Bat! 1.36?
Sergey>>> These guys from Ritlabs are not clever enough - they think stupid debugger
Sergey>>> checking could prevent The Bat! from cracking!
t>> well, as far as I heard there isnt a working crack for 1.36 yet... so
t>> it seems to help!
Sergey> You are joker! Do you want crack? No problem.
nope, I donot need one...
Sergey> IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PROTECT YOUR SOFTWARE FROM AVERAGE-LEVEL
Sergey> HACKER. PERIOD.
correct, agreed. BUT note, you say average hacker...
I have sofar seen very few programs which couldnt be hacked. And a few
which cannot...not many though.
Sergey>>> I MUST use debugger - I'm writing VxD!!! But I am not hacker I don't
Sergey>>> have enough time to crack this stupid checking.
t>> why donot you post this on alt.cracks
t>> you may find some interesting conversation about the subject once you
t>> ask...
Sergey> I don't have time to discuss these things.
But thats the place where you might find the answer of how to run your
debugger... Unless you ask those who know directly..
MOST of the main hacking groups do read the items there, even if 99%
of the posts are rubbish and silly requests.
I cannot imagine the RITLABS to tell you how to do it...
You can post it in Russian as well as several of the main groups can
read that.
Sergey>>> Как убрать проверку на дебаггер, нет времени самому ломать, а
Sergey>>> дебаггер мне нужен для работы VxD без Soft-Ice не напишешь.
Sergey>>> Идиотизм, конечно , редкий
t>> Softice doesnt help as far as I know and I have seen at one time that
t>> it needed modifications in memory while running to bypass the checks.
Sergey> You can use IDA to find EVERY system calls and S-ICE to find last call to
Sergey> this stupid window "Please turn off your debugger". For the normal
Sergey> hacker it's enough.
Not if they want to crack a program or generate a key, deactivating
softice protection is just the start.
Sergey> If ritlabs guys are so smart, let they will turn off debugger checking. It
Sergey> is protection from idiots.
But thats most of the users (sorry!), and a lot of the lazy crackers.
As you know,if it looks like hard work and not a few bytes to
change, many crackers give up...
Sergey> I just ask why Ritlabs have decided to check debugger. May be they
Sergey> think that debugger is only for cracking and hacking? It's nonsense. I
Sergey> am writing system-level software. And I am using S-Ice as fast system
Sergey> disassembler and help(I use second computer to debug software). Why
Sergey> Ritlabs doesn't want to see me( and similar people ) as client(s)?
If you work for a company let your company ask them. Believe me, thats
your only chance for them 'as company' to respond.
But first thing they will probably ask is why you want to run your emails
while a debugger is running...
Unless its for checking interaction.. Anyway if thats what you are
doing, let me know if the Bat still leaks memory.. Something does and
its some silly combination of about 3 programs which causes it.
On my system anyway.
Sergey>>> Best regards,
Sergey>>> Sergey mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Best regards,
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