TBUDL Archive?

2004-01-06 Thread Jim Dever
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Hi People,

Is there an archive kept of TBUDL messages (especially recent ones)?

I'm asking because I have a suspicion that my ISP is dropping emails
but the others are coming from Yahoo Groups so... Would love an easily
way to verify that before I raise heck lol.

Thanks!

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Re: TBUDL Archive?

2004-01-06 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Jim,

@6-Jan-2004, 04:26 -0500 (06-Jan 09:26 UK time) Jim Dever [JD] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

JD Is there an archive kept of TBUDL messages (especially recent
JD ones)?

Yes. The address of the archive can be found in the TBUDLinfo link
on the bottom of every message (or in the part.txt attachment to my
posts - displaced by the PGP/MIME signature).

The TBUDL archive is here: http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com

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Re: Where is TBUDL Archive nowadays?

2003-09-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Luc-

Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 7:03:41 PM, you wrote:

L  Every message on this list get's this link:

Unless you happen to receive digest mode, in which case it's nowhere
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Re: Where is TBUDL Archive nowadays?

2003-09-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Marck-

Of course, in digest mode you'd have no idea that there were any
archives...

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Re: Where is TBUDL Archive nowadays?

2003-09-25 Thread John Phillips
Hi Mark,
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, at 00:26:07 [GMT-0700] (which was 17:26:07
Australian Eastern Time) you wrote:

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Re[2]: Where is TBUDL Archive nowadays?

2003-09-25 Thread Paul Berger
Thanks to all.

Luc link worked just fine. http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

As Marck said, I receive the digest so do not have the link that Marck
mentioned.

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Re[2]: Where is TBUDL Archive nowadays?

2003-09-25 Thread Paul Berger
Have just moved up to 1.62r and can wait till any bugs are fixed.

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Re: Where is TBUDL Archive nowadays?

2003-09-25 Thread Mark Wieder
John-

Any reason not to upgrade to  2.00.6?

Uh oh...busted.

My vcr flashes 12:00, too, because I... er... um... like that time of
day... yeah, that's it. I'm still running SP2, you'll notice. And my
house was built in 1907 and still runs fine. Haven't seen the need to
upgrade it yet except for piecemeal.

I'll get around to upgrading TB some day. I always say that
procrastination is its own reward.

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Where is TBUDL Archive nowadays?

2003-09-24 Thread Paul Berger
The TBUDL archive used to have a link on RitLabs site, but no longer.

Does anyone know where it is?

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Re: Where is TBUDL Archive nowadays?

2003-09-24 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Paul,

@25-Sep-2003, 11:48 +1000 (02:48 UK time) Paul Berger [PB] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

PB The TBUDL archive used to have a link on RitLabs site, but no
PB longer.

PB Does anyone know where it is?

See the bottom of this message? And the message you posted? Well,
all of the information about these lists is there. Including the
address of the archive.

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Re: Where is TBUDL Archive nowadays?

2003-09-24 Thread Luc
Good morning Paul,
  
It was foretold that on 25-9-2003 @ 11:48:32 GMT+1000 (which was
3:48:32 where I live) Paul Berger would mumble:
  
snipped a bit

PB The TBUDL archive used to have a link on RitLabs site, but no longer.

PB Does anyone know where it is?
  
 Every message on this list get's this link:

 http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

 Click and at the right side under content is a link to the archives.
 
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Re: Where is TBUDL Archive nowadays?

2003-09-24 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
@25-Sep-2003, 02:53 Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Paul:

MDP See the bottom of this message?

Okay - bad example. My messages are PGP/MIME signed so the footer is
pushed into part.txt. Right theory, wrong universe. Look at part.txt
or any non-PGP/MIME signed message.

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TBUDL archive?

2002-07-17 Thread Greg Strong

Hello TBUDL,

Does all messages sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] get archived?

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Re: TBUDL archive?

2002-07-17 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Greg,
On Wednesday, July 17, 2002 at 08:51:55 [GMT -0500], you wrote:

GS Does all messages sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] get archived?

Yes, they do. You haven't looked at the message footer for a while, have
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Re: TBUDL archive?

2002-07-17 Thread Thomas F

Hello Greg,

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:51:55 -0500 GMT (17/07/02, 20:51 +0700 GMT),
Greg Strong wrote:

GS Does all messages sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] get archived?

Check the footer of this very reply. ;-)

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Re: TBUDL archive?

2002-07-17 Thread Greg Strong

Hello Thomas,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 8:54:53 AM, you wrote:

TF Check the footer of this very reply. ;-)

Yes, I know the URL which re-directs you to
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/. I've check the
archive for [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and either I
missed it, or it is not there. This is a reply message dated 7/14/02.
I did the search on the subject Trouble checking mail with ALT F2.

So I'll ask my original question again. Does all messages sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] get archived?

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Re: TBUDL archive?

2002-07-17 Thread Jonathan Angliss

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On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, Greg Strong wrote...

 So I'll ask my original question again. Does all messages sent to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] get archived?

Yes... but as far as I can guess... the headers are stripped out, so
you may not be able to search for a message id.

http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg44050.html

Would that be the message you were after?  Unfortunately the search
facility doesn't seem to work quite as well as liked, I had to go to
search for the thread (like you did), open the first message, and use
the thread navigator buttons (-- thread --) and went through it like
that.  It could be because it got nested really deep into the thread
that the mail search doesn't go that far.

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Re: TBUDL archive?

2002-07-17 Thread Greg Strong

Hello Jonathan,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 11:02:46 AM, you wrote:

JA Yes... but as far as I can guess... the headers are stripped out, so
JA you may not be able to search for a message id.

I tried to search on ID, but was unsuccessful. As you, I discovered
that headers are gone in archive. So unless someone can tell me
otherwise, you can NOT search on message ID.

JA http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg44050.html

JA Would that be the message you were after?

Yes!  Thank you!  I must have missed it this AM.  I wish I was on wide
band.  Doing search on dial up can take time which causes frustration
when unsuccessful.

JA Unfortunately the search facility doesn't seem to work quite as
JA well as liked, I had to go to search for the thread (like you
JA did), open the first message, and use the thread navigator buttons
JA (-- thread --) and went through it like that.

I agree search function could be better, but something is better than
nothing.

JA It could be because it got nested really deep into the thread that
JA the mail search doesn't go that far.

I don't know.  This thread did meander.  If someone knows a better way
to use search function in archive, I hope they would fill us in. g

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Re: TBUDL archive?

2002-07-17 Thread Thomas F

Hello Greg,

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:29:47 -0500 GMT (17/07/02, 23:29 +0700 GMT),
Greg Strong wrote:

GS I don't know.  This thread did meander.  If someone knows a better way
GS to use search function in archive, I hope they would fill us in. g

If it's any consolation, I was trying to your message in the archives
after your posting and couldn't find it either. I even tried searching
for some key words in the message body (like factor/possibility) but
still came up negative.

FWIW I keep 180 days' worth of messages for this list on my computer,
and that's where I search (if necessary), using TB's superior search
facility. If it's older than 180 days, well then I don't have it.
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Re: TBUDL archive?

2002-07-17 Thread Jonathan Angliss

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On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, Greg Strong wrote...

 Yes!  Thank you!  I must have missed it this AM.  I wish I was on wide
 band.  Doing search on dial up can take time which causes frustration
 when unsuccessful.

I didn't find it when I searched... and I have a very wide band ;)  I
can download 85meg files in about 89 seconds via FTP... at least that
was the speed this morning when I tried ;)  I even tried putting in
the first line to see if it'd fine it, and it didn't.

 I don't know.  This thread did meander.  If someone knows a better way
 to use search function in archive, I hope they would fill us in. g

I don't think it's because the thread meandered... I think it could be
because it went too deep for the search to maybe record it.  For
example the list search may have a cut off point like this:

- - Msg 1
  - Msg 2
- Msg 3
  - Msg 4
(Cut off point)
  - Msg 5

In that instance, Msg 5 may not be searched... just an idea, and I
guess very possible based on the fact that you cannot see all the
items in the list when you display via thread view.

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Re: TBUDL archive?

2002-07-17 Thread Greg Strong

Hello Jonathan,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 11:39:26 AM, you wrote:

JA I didn't find it when I searched... and I have a very wide band ;)  I
JA can download 85meg files in about 89 seconds via FTP... at least that
JA was the speed this morning when I tried ;)

Wow that is fast.

JA I even tried putting in
JA the first line to see if it'd fine it, and it didn't.

I assume you mean when you searched off web.

JA I think it could be because it went too deep for the search to
JA maybe record it. For example the list search may have a cut off
JA point like this:

JA - - Msg 1
JA   - Msg 2
JA - Msg 3
JA   - Msg 4
JA (Cut off point)
JA   - Msg 5

JA In that instance, Msg 5 may not be searched... just an idea, and I
JA guess very possible based on the fact that you cannot see all the
JA items in the list when you display via thread view.

I wish one of the moderators would answer and take the guessing out of
this. What good is a search when or if it does NOT search the entire
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Re: TBUDL archive?

2002-07-17 Thread Greg Strong

Hello Thomas,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 11:35:40 AM, you wrote:

TF If it's any consolation, I was trying to your message in the archives
TF after your posting and couldn't find it either. I even tried searching
TF for some key words in the message body (like factor/possibility) but
TF still came up negative.

See Jonathan's message/reply per
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED].

TF FWIW I keep 180 days' worth of messages for this list on my computer,
TF and that's where I search (if necessary), using TB's superior search
TF facility. If it's older than 180 days, well then I don't have it.
TF Hardly ever matters.

I only keep 30 days worth.  I'm trying to minimize HD space.  I
thought I'd use archive when older.  This experience of mine tells me
either we are approaching search wrong, or I can NOT rely on archive.

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Re: TBUDL archive?

2002-07-17 Thread Jonathan Angliss

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On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, Greg Strong wrote...

JA I even tried putting in the first line to see if it'd fine it,
JA and it didn't.

 I assume you mean when you searched off web.

Yes... I found it from the msgid in my message base, and then used
that to try finding it in the archives.

 I wish one of the moderators would answer and take the guessing out
 of this.

Would be good. ;)

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Re: TBUDL archive?

2002-07-17 Thread Greg Strong

Hello Jonathan,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 11:39:26 AM, you wrote:

JA I didn't find it when I searched... and I have a very wide band ;)
JA I can download 85meg files in about 89 seconds via FTP... at least
JA that was the speed this morning when I tried ;) I even tried
JA putting in the first line to see if it'd fine it, and it didn't.

I understand this to mean you found it after you downloaded archived
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Re: TBUDL archive?

2002-07-17 Thread Jonathan Angliss

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On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, Greg Strong wrote...

 I understand this to mean you found it after you downloaded archived
 messages. How did you download TB! archive?

I didn't... I meant I downloaded a file this morning, was 85megs, and
I got it in about 89 seconds. Was just showing how having wide band
really didn't make any different in searching the archives ;) There is
some list archiving software that actually allows you to download the
archives in .txt or .tar.gz (those non-unix can open that in winzip),
but I've not seen any sign (not really looked) of that for this list.

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Re: TBUDL archive?

2002-07-17 Thread Jonathan Angliss

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On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, Greg Strong wrote...

 I only keep 30 days worth. I'm trying to minimize HD space. I
 thought I'd use archive when older. This experience of mine tells me
 either we are approaching search wrong, or I can NOT rely on
 archive.

I was going to snip mine down a bit, but decided to keep it as it
contains nuggets of info all over the place, and it's quicker, and
more accurate to search for things in TB than via the archive.  There
was some mentioning of local archiving via another program a while
back.  My archives go back to when I signed up, which was back in May
I think... I have just a little over 6,000 messages in the TBUDL
folder.

http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg31914.html
^^ Was one thread.  Another was a thread with the topic CD-Rom
Archives unfortunately I cannot get the list archives to go back to
7th of May, but if you'd like a copy, I can zip the thread up, and
mail it over.  Some mentions of packages such as MailBag appeared in
the thread.

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Re: TBUDL archive?

2002-07-17 Thread Greg Strong

Hello Jonathan,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 12:40:13 PM, you wrote:

JA Some mentions of packages such as MailBag appeared in the thread.

IIRC I might have started that thread.  My memory tells me that
Melissa Reese informed me of Mailbag. Do you have a URL for Mailbag?

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Re: TBUDL archive?

2002-07-17 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Greg,

@17 July 2002, 12:20 -0500 (18:20 UK time)  Greg Strong [GS] in
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JA In that instance, Msg 5 may not be searched... just an idea, and I
JA guess very possible based on the fact that you cannot see all the
JA items in the list when you display via thread view.

GS I wish one of the moderators would answer and take the guessing out of
GS this. What good is a search when or if it does NOT search the entire
GS archive from web?

That won't help g. We don't run the archive. It's a public facility.
Just make the archive submission address a member of the list and
messages get archived. How it works beyond that is beyond me/us.

See http://www.mail-archive.com for access to About and FAQ screens
for the archive service.

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Re: TBUDL archive?

2002-07-17 Thread Jonathan Angliss

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On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, Greg Strong wrote...

 IIRC I might have started that thread. My memory tells me that
 Melissa Reese informed me of Mailbag. Do you have a URL for Mailbag?

http://www.fookes.com/mailbag/index.html -- that look right?

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Re: TBUDL archive?

2002-07-17 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 12:40:13 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote:

 I was going to snip mine down a bit, but decided to keep it

I just moved several thousand older messages from TBUDL and TBBETA to
a folder in a dummy account. Those folders don't get compressed on
exit. It has speeded up closing, and also opening those two folders.
But the messages are still there for searching if needed.

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