Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
Hi On Thursday 31 October 2013 at 1:19:53 PM, in mid:565413632.20131031081...@fastmail.fm, Stuart Cuddy wrote: The one thing I learned early on, was to set Global View Mode to No View Mode and leave it there. I see no purpose for it and if you set it to anything but No View Mode it just takes over everything. Isn't that what global means? -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com We're all shipwrecked on this idea that everything has to be explained. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
Hi On Saturday 2 November 2013 at 3:52:52 PM, in mid:119627865.20131102155...@chriswilson.tv, Chris Wilson wrote: I am, and was, using 5.8.8, I am not sure why TB! is not adding the correct version designator, I'll have a poke about. What Thomas was referring to is the List Footer, added by this mailing list and not by TB!. To add the TB! version you are currently using, and the Windows version information, you need to include in your templates for this list something like:- Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION on %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %- %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build %- %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION%- -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com 1 + 1 = 3, for large values of 1 Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
Hi On Saturday 2 November 2013 at 3:52:52 PM, in mid:119627865.20131102155...@chriswilson.tv, Chris Wilson wrote: I am, and was, using 5.8.8, I am not sure why TB! is not adding the correct version designator, I'll have a poke about. What Thomas was referring to is the List Footer, added by this mailing list and not by TB!. To add the TB! version you are currently using, and the Windows version information, you need to include in your templates for this list something like:- Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION on %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %- %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build %- %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION%- 04 November 2013 Ok, I have added the macro, thanks! -- Chris Wilson Using The Bat! v5.8.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 -- Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
The one thing I learned early on, was to set Global View Mode to No View Mode and leave it there. I see no purpose for it and if you set it to anything but No View Mode it just takes over everything. Isn't that what global means? It is a good, fast way to set all your folders to the way you always want to read your email I have too many folders to even think about trying this, but I wonder if you set it to a specific view mode globally and then go back to no view mode would the settings done globally stay where they are but now you have the ability to change them? -- Rick The point is that Republicans are always talking about deregulation and big government. But I say their philosophy is small government for the big guy and big government for the little guy. And so, if my wife's uterus was incorporated or my friend's bedroom was incorporated, maybe the Republicans would be talking about deregulating. - Representative Scott Randolph, Florida v5.8.8 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
The one thing I learned early on, was to set Global View Mode to No View Mode and leave it there. I see no purpose for it and if you set it to anything but No View Mode it just takes over everything. Isn't that what global means? It is a good, fast way to set all your folders to the way you always want to read your email I have too many folders to even think about trying this, but I wonder if you set it to a specific view mode globally and then go back to no view mode would the settings done globally stay where they are but now you have the ability to change them? 04 November 2013 I have set my own global view mode that I call Generic View Mode with messasges threaded and in reverse date order, and it is behaving itself so far. I then use the folder View tabs to genersate waht folder by folder view mode I want, (All,[which is therer by default],Today, Yesterday, This Week, Unread, and Flagged. So far so good since deleting the CONFIG.CDB file and letting TB! recreate it and re-setting as required. Still think it's close to broken as a facility, and trust it as far as I can throw it ;) -- Chris Wilson Using The Bat! v5.8.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 -- Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
The one thing I learned early on, was to set Global View Mode to No View Mode and leave it there. I see no purpose for it and if you set it to anything but No View Mode it just takes over everything. Isn't that what global means? It is a good, fast way to set all your folders to the way you always want to read your email I have too many folders to even think about trying this, but I wonder if you set it to a specific view mode globally and then go back to no view mode would the settings done globally stay where they are but now you have the ability to change them? 04 November 2013 I have set my own global view mode that I call Generic View Mode with messasges threaded and in reverse date order, and it is behaving itself so far. I then use the folder View tabs to genersate waht folder by folder view mode I want, (All,[which is therer by default],Today, Yesterday, This Week, Unread, and Flagged. So far so good since deleting the CONFIG.CDB file and letting TB! recreate it and re-setting as required. Still think it's close to broken as a facility, and trust it as far as I can throw it ;) -- Chris Wilson Using The Bat! v5.8.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 04 November 2013 And I really see no great advantage in it over No View Mode, just wanted to see if behaved now I know what to do if it doesn't, and I have secure back ups.! -- Chris Wilson Using The Bat! v5.8.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 -- Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
Hi On Monday 4 November 2013 at 4:43:54 PM, in mid:473151678.20131104164...@chriswilson.tv, Chris Wilson wrote: I have set my own global view mode that I call Generic View Mode And I really see no great advantage in it over No View Mode, just wanted to see if behaved now I know what to do if it doesn't, and I have secure back ups.! I also have a Generic View Mode. And one called SortBySender which IIRC appeared when I defined a tab with that name - although none of my other tabs appeared as view modes, so maybe I was experimenting to see what was the difference. And I have a further view mode with a blank name. For all three of my view modes, the Use by ... selection has no folders ticked. My Global View Mode is set to no view mode and I alter each folder individually as needed, though most are about the same. If I need a different view, I either use the Message List Columns dialog or I create a tab. My preferred view is generally listed by created date, with new messages at the top and threaded by references. Where messages are in a thread, I see the thread starter at the top and the other messages threaded below it. The minor irritation is where there is more than one reply to the same message in a thread: the newer replies are listed above the older ones. I would prefer them below so that when I read down through the messages in a thread, I don't encounter as John has already mentioned... before I see John's contribution. I have looked at this from time to time over the years but never found a way to achieve it in TB!. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com The truth is out there. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
Hello MFPA, I would prefer them below so that when I read down through the messages in a thread, I don't encounter as John has already mentioned... before I see John's contribution. I have looked at this from time to time over the years but never found a way to achieve it in TB!. Just set your view to show new messages at bottom, like I do, and your threads won't irritate you :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.8.8 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
Hi On Monday 4 November 2013 at 6:01:44 PM, in mid:1854613844.20131104190...@gmail.com, MAU wrote: Just set your view to show new messages at bottom, like I do, and your threads won't irritate you :-) Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm awkward. I find showing new messages at the bottom to be uncomfortable, don't know why. I don't know why it should be too much to ask that new messages (or threads with new messages) are shown at the top of the list but threads are still shown in the correct order for reading. I have used newsreaders in the past that achieved this. But as I say, it is only a minor irritation. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Those who do not read are no better off than those who cannot. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
Hello MFPA, Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm awkward. I find showing new messages at the bottom to be uncomfortable, don't know why. Just because you find it unconfortable, that's why :-) I don't know why it should be too much to ask that new messages (or threads with new messages) are shown at the top of the list but threads are still shown in the correct order for reading. You are sorting by Created date, newest at top. And this applies to messages in a thread too. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.8.8 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
Hi On Monday 4 November 2013 at 6:32:15 PM, in mid:1723212929.20131104193...@gmail.com, MAU wrote: You are sorting by Created date, newest at top. And this applies to messages in a thread too. Yes, I get the logic from a sorting point of view. But from a usability point of view I have never understood why that would be desirable inside a thread, and newsreaders I used in the past didn't apply it inside threads. It is just something I see as sub-optimal in The Bat! but far outweighed by a host of other features. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Versifiers write poems for it. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
Hello MFPA, Yes, I get the logic from a sorting point of view. But from a usability point of view I have never understood why that would be desirable inside a thread, and newsreaders I used in the past didn't apply it inside threads. It is just something I see as sub-optimal in The Bat! but far outweighed by a host of other features. No matter what any newsreader does (or did), I see a contradiction that what you find 'confortable' at folder level is 'irritating' at thread level. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.8.8 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
Hi MAU On Monday 4 November 2013 at 8:58:40 PM, you wrote: No matter what any newsreader does (or did), I see a contradiction that what you find 'confortable' at folder level is 'irritating' at thread level. We are all individuals and see things slightly differently. I see no contradiction in displaying the newest message (that is not part of a thread) or the newest (most recently added-to) thread at the top of a folder but still displaying threads in reading order. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
Hello Chris, On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 21:07:46 -0400 GMT (01-Nov-13, 08:07 +0700 GMT), Rick wrote: Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: Current version is actually 5.8.8. Please upgrade and see whether the problem persists. What Windows version are you using? -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 5.8.8 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
Hello Chris, On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 21:07:46 -0400 GMT (01-Nov-13, 08:07 +0700 GMT), Rick wrote: Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: Current version is actually 5.8.8. Please upgrade and see whether the problem persists. What Windows version are you using? 02 November 2013 I am, and was, using 5.8.8, I am not sure why TB! is not adding the correct version designator, I'll have a poke about. Windows is XP Pro with all updates. You may have missed my reply to myself, but I fixed it, although I still see a minor problem / glitch. hers is what I wrote yesterday. Thanks for the reply Thomas. ~~~ In the hope it may help others here is the fix I found, with very welcome support from Rick here. Thanks Rick! Renaming TBUSER.DEF made no difference at all, and I checked there was only one copy of that file on my whole machine. This seemed very odd. TB! opened with no apparent changes anywhere at all, and the problems remained. RITLABS support also suggested renaming the RIT folder in the registry. Renaming and recreating the RIT folder didn't fix it either, I'd tried this earlier, and all it did was make me re enter my registration code. The problems remained... :( What DID fix it was renaming the CONFIG.CDB folder and letting TB! recreate it. I had to set up View Modes again from scratch, but the two From: entries that were un-deletable, the un-deletable two View Modes, and the frozen Tabs were all fixed at the same time by this. Is 5.8.8 actually using TBUSER.DEF, as renaming it and re launching TB! showed no changes whatsoever? Even a PC reboot made no difference. TB! didn't attempt to recreate a new TBUSER.DEF, either. Thanks. I would like to know if 5.8.8 and onwards do still use TBUSER.DEF? Hoping this may help someone with similar problems. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
The one thing I learned early on, was to set Global View Mode to No View Mode and leave it there. I see no purpose for it and if you set it to anything but No View Mode it just takes over everything. 01 November 2013 Thanks Stuart. That is how I have run it, I too see no purpose in it. There are far too many places to alter View Modes and little in the way of documentation to say how they interact, save suck it and see. IMHO. In the hope it may help others here is the fix I found, with very welcome support from Rick here. Thanks Rick! Renaming TBUSER.DEF made no difference at all, and I checked there was only one copy of that file on my whole machine. This seemed very odd. TB! opened with no apparent changes anywhere at all, and the problems remained. RITLABS support also suggested renaming the RIT folder in the registry. Renaming and recreating the RIT folder didn't fix it either, I'd tried this earlier, and all it did was make me re enter my registration code. The problems remained... :( What DID fix it was renaming the CONFIG.CDB folder and letting TB! recreate it. I had to set up View Modes again from scratch, but the two From: entries that were un-deletable, the un-deletable two View Modes, and the frozen Tabs were all fixed at the same time by this. Is 5.8.8 actually using TBUSER.DEF, as renaming it and re launching TB! showed no changes whatsoever? Even a PC reboot made no difference. TB! didn't attempt to recreate a new TBUSER.DEF, either. Thanks. I would like to know if 5.8.8 and onwards do still use TBUSER.DEF? Hoping this may help someone with similar problems. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
31 October 2013 I am getting headers showing two identical From: header lines, and in the area where you manage the headers to display, that too is showing two From: header lines, please see screen shot linked. Un-ticking one of the two From: boxes works until a screen refresh, the both From: headers are back. I can see the extra From: header in Options : Preferences : Message Headers, but the option to delete either of the two is greyed out. Thanks.TB1 is V 5.8.8 but did it with an earlier 5.8 version too. http://www.gatesgarth.com/headers.jpg I also just noticed I have two of the same View Modes called Generic View Mode. Neither of these can be deleted. If it helps View Modes and message pane tabs seem to have a mind of their own, which was one reason I upgraded to a V5.* from the last of the V4 versions. To be honest View Modes are a mess, unintuitive and to me, flaky in the extreme :) Could a file be corrupted that is copied across versions? Will V6 address this in any way? Thanks. __ Best Regards, Chris Wilson mailto:ch...@chriswilson.tv Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
Hello Chris, A reminder of what Chris Wilson typed on: Thursday, October 31, 2013 at 10:53:55 GMT + CW Will V6 address this in any way? Thanks. I had the same mucked up View modes, doubles etc. and was able to delete them once I installed the v6 alpha. So there is hope. :) -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Using The Bat! v6.0.0.21 (BETA) On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7601 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
Hello Chris, A reminder of what Chris Wilson typed on: Thursday, October 31, 2013 at 10:53:55 GMT + CW Will V6 address this in any way? Thanks. I had the same mucked up View modes, doubles etc. and was able to delete them once I installed the v6 alpha. So there is hope. :) 31 October 2013 Thanks Stuart, the more I look at View Modes, and tabs the more confused I get. The whole thing needs a rethink, there are far too many means of accessing the menus for these, and seemingly no rhyme nor reason in what overrides what. I have used The Bat! for very many years, and generally it's superb, but View Modes, Global View Modes, Folder View Modes and now Tabs. What a hodge podge of disparate menus, it needs sorting! I have now managed to lock up TB! messing with these, it *appears* using Tabs it will try and select more than one tab at a time, and also seems to get its knickers in a twist balancing Tabs and View Modes and deciding which to use. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
Hello Chris, A reminder of what Chris Wilson typed on: Thursday, October 31, 2013 at 13:12:53 GMT + CW Thanks Stuart, the more I look at View Modes, and tabs the more CW confused I get. The whole thing needs a rethink, there are far too CW many means of accessing the menus for these, and seemingly no rhyme CW nor reason in what overrides what. I have used The Bat! for very CW many years, and generally it's superb, but View Modes, Global View CW Modes, Folder View Modes and now Tabs. What a hodge podge of CW disparate menus, it needs sorting! I have now managed to lock up TB! CW messing with these, it *appears* using Tabs it will try and select CW more than one tab at a time, and also seems to get its knickers in a CW twist balancing Tabs and View Modes and deciding which to use. The one thing I learned early on, was to set Global View Mode to No View Mode and leave it there. I see no purpose for it and if you set it to anything but No View Mode it just takes over everything. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Using The Bat! v6.0.0.21 (BETA) On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7601 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
Hello Chris, A reminder of what Chris Wilson typed on: Thursday, October 31, 2013 at 13:12:53 GMT + CW Thanks Stuart, the more I look at View Modes, and tabs the more CW confused I get. The whole thing needs a rethink, there are far too CW many means of accessing the menus for these, and seemingly no rhyme CW nor reason in what overrides what. I have used The Bat! for very CW many years, and generally it's superb, but View Modes, Global View CW Modes, Folder View Modes and now Tabs. What a hodge podge of CW disparate menus, it needs sorting! I have now managed to lock up TB! CW messing with these, it *appears* using Tabs it will try and select CW more than one tab at a time, and also seems to get its knickers in a CW twist balancing Tabs and View Modes and deciding which to use. The one thing I learned early on, was to set Global View Mode to No View Mode and leave it there. I see no purpose for it and if you set it to anything but No View Mode it just takes over everything. 31 October 2013 I am really at the end of my tether now, since playing with the fickle View Modes and Tabs I see a huge number of folders have changed their Unread / Read properties to showing a huge quantity as UNREAD. As far as I can see there's no going back over such a change. Despite the odd anomalies with the last of the V 4.* Bat! versions, nothing like this has ever occurred before. Paying for an upgrade to the latest V5.* has not been a pleasant experience. All I wanted was ALL folders to be set with a View Mode showing all messages threaded in reverse date order, and the new (to me) Tabs showing either : All / Today / Yesterday / This Week / or Unread. EXTREMELY unimpressed! That aside, many thanks for your frank advice :) Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues
Hello Chris, A reminder of what Chris Wilson typed on: Thursday, October 31, 2013 at 13:12:53 GMT + CW Thanks Stuart, the more I look at View Modes, and tabs the more CW confused I get. The whole thing needs a rethink, there are far too CW many means of accessing the menus for these, and seemingly no rhyme CW nor reason in what overrides what. I have used The Bat! for very CW many years, and generally it's superb, but View Modes, Global View CW Modes, Folder View Modes and now Tabs. What a hodge podge of CW disparate menus, it needs sorting! I have now managed to lock up TB! CW messing with these, it *appears* using Tabs it will try and select CW more than one tab at a time, and also seems to get its knickers in a CW twist balancing Tabs and View Modes and deciding which to use. The one thing I learned early on, was to set Global View Mode to No View Mode and leave it there. I see no purpose for it and if you set it to anything but No View Mode it just takes over everything. Same here. I create my own and use them where appropriate Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.44.2 folder view modes issue
On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 07:37:45 -0400, you wrote: 10/9/2013 7:32 AM Hi Chris, On 10/9/2013 Chris Wilson wrote: CW Is this backu sytsem known to be flaky, and I better CW copying the whole of the directory structure each night? Thanks. Yes.. I have been using TB for 20 years and this is one of the lessons learned. I use SecondCopy to do this automatically every 2 hours. The other lesson learned is to not let TB do the encryption of the files. Use TruCrypt to create an encrypted partition and store the TB files there. Makes life alot more peaceful! Thanks for treply, I will for sure use a different back up method. Seeing as you are also a very long time user I wonder if you ever see TB! crash and just close instantly on a certain rogue e-mail when downloading off the server? I see this once a week or so and have to ry and isolate it on the server. usually when ALL other mails are downloaded the rogue one will download without an issue. I can see nothing odd in the headers or they type of mail or mailer. Usually they are addressed to me direct and for filtering into my peronal mail folder. It can be a pain dealing with these. Deleting and recreating the filter didn't help, nor did subtly changing its form. Thanks again! Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.2.44.2 folder view modes issue
10/10/2013 7:00 AM Hi Chris, On 10/10/2013 Chris Wilson wrote: CW On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 07:37:45 -0400, you wrote: CW Seeing as you are also a very long time user I wonder if you ever see CW TB! crash and just close instantly on a certain rogue e-mail when CW downloading off the server? I see this once a week or so and have to CW ry and isolate it on the server. usually when ALL other mails are CW downloaded the rogue one will download without an issue. I can see CW nothing odd in the headers or they type of mail or mailer. Usually CW they are addressed to me direct and for filtering into my peronal mail CW folder. It can be a pain dealing with these. Deleting and recreating CW the filter didn't help, nor did subtly changing its form. Thanks CW again! Does it download OK if you remove the filter? - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: 4.2.44.2 folder view modes issue
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 07:06:00 -0400, you wrote: 10/10/2013 7:00 AM Hi Chris, On 10/10/2013 Chris Wilson wrote: CW On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 07:37:45 -0400, you wrote: CW Seeing as you are also a very long time user I wonder if you ever see CW TB! crash and just close instantly on a certain rogue e-mail when CW downloading off the server? I see this once a week or so and have to CW ry and isolate it on the server. usually when ALL other mails are CW downloaded the rogue one will download without an issue. I can see CW nothing odd in the headers or they type of mail or mailer. Usually CW they are addressed to me direct and for filtering into my peronal mail CW folder. It can be a pain dealing with these. Deleting and recreating CW the filter didn't help, nor did subtly changing its form. Thanks CW again! Does it download OK if you remove the filter? Good point, I will try that!! Thanks. Having other issues since fitting a new drive and transferring the database manually, so I will start another thread, using Agent now as a stop gap as I am mega busy and daren't risk a total e-mail outage :( Cheers Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.2.44.2 folder view modes issue
09/10/2013 09:44 I had a hard drive failure and had to try and re install The Bat! 4.2.44.2 from a daily back up. This failed part through with an unable to read file error... Luckily TB! database was on a D: drive so i did a fresh install of TB! and tried copying the rest across. It's 90% working fine now, but when I change folder view modes for and individual folder, either by Folder - Folder View Mode _ whatever view mode required or by folder properties it does not always take. Sometimes toggling the All and Unread lower left flags in the message list pane does the trick, sometimes it doesn't. Could it be a corrupt file? Where does TB! 4.2.44.2 store these settings? Any help appreciated. this is not the first time a read error has occurred trying to restore form a TB! generated backup file. The file was about 3gig in size, but my file system under my Windows XP Pro SP3 system handles bigger files than that fine. Is this backu sytsem known to be flaky, and I better copying the whole of the directory structure each night? Thanks. -- Best Regards, Chris Wilson. mailto: ch...@chriswilson.tv Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.44.2 folder view modes issue
10/9/2013 7:32 AM Hi Chris, On 10/9/2013 Chris Wilson wrote: CW Is this backu sytsem known to be flaky, and I better CW copying the whole of the directory structure each night? Thanks. Yes.. I have been using TB for 20 years and this is one of the lessons learned. I use SecondCopy to do this automatically every 2 hours. The other lesson learned is to not let TB do the encryption of the files. Use TruCrypt to create an encrypted partition and store the TB files there. Makes life alot more peaceful! - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
View modes
Are view modes folder-specific? I ask because I keep missing e-mails because they're buried deep in threads that have scrolled off screen. So I want the default in personal e-mail folders to be by date, unthreaded. Conversely, of course, it makes better sense to view mailing lists by thread. Every time I change view mode TB! asks me about keeping it when I exit, but I don't want to set a new global view mode by accident. OK, I know there are hotkeys to quickly change mode, but I'd just like to set defaults. -- Regards, Robert Bull mailto:theb...@theluminousvoid.plus.com Using The Bat! v4.2.23 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View modes
[Reply to: »Robert Bull« · 2010-02-17 · 22:26 h (CET)] Moin, Robert! Every time I change view mode TB! asks me about keeping it when I exit, but I don't want to set a new global view mode by accident. Try Options|Preferences…|Message List|View Modes: → When View Mode was changed → [x] Save Cheers! VA - -- Volker Ahrendt | q...@ahrendt.net | The /\^o^/\! [Pro] 4.2.35 Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP [Build 2600 – Service Pack 3] Direct eMail without [The Bat!] in subject line will end in Nirvana! »He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy« Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View modes
Hello Robert, A reminder of what Robert Bull typed on: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 at 21:26:41 GMT + RB Are view modes folder-specific? Yes. You can set up different view modes and then assign them to your folders as you see fit. See Options/Preferences/Message List/View Modes . Create a new view mode and save it. For example I have one view mode for Incoming mail, one for Sent mail and one for mailing lists. Once you have saved the view modes, you can Right-click on a folder and select the Folder View mode you want to assign. It is important to note that you need to set View/Global View Mode to None, or it will over-ride all view modes. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:scu...@mts.net Using The Bat! v4.2.35 On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7600 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: view modes
Hello Roelof, Thanks. I wasn't planning on deleting the file. -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP Service Pack 2 2600 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: view modes
Hallo Terry, On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 11:16:38 -0600GMT (9-2-2008, 18:16 +0100, where I live), you wrote: TGM Does anyone know what file view modes are saved in? My guess would be the account.cdb file in the mail directory (config.edb for otfe) and I would advise against deleting that file because of all the other that might be included. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vidi, Ventilate (I came, I saw, I opened a window) http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.11 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpwJzwSCaKeD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
view modes
Hi Does anyone know what file view modes are saved in? -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP Service Pack 2 2600 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View modes - I am losing hair, sleep and patience...
Hello Marten, Tuesday, December 19, 2006, 4:01:56 PM, you wrote: MG This is what I want to do: MG I want to design a view mode that will apply to 120 of 123 folders. MG Then I want 2 folders to have a slightly different layout. First step is to make sure that View/Global View Mode is set to No View Mode. Once this is done you should be able to create view modes as you see fit. Thank you - that seems to have done it - but it seems counter-intuitive to me... -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.85.03 with K9 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
View modes - I am losing hair, sleep and patience...
This is what I want to do: I want to design a view mode that will apply to 120 of 123 folders. Then I want 2 folders to have a slightly different layout. Then I want a virtual folder to have a completely different layout with additional columns. Could someone tell me where to start? I have resorted to deleting all the standard available folders and leving myself with a generic view mode suitable for the 120 folders. But if I go to the Virtual Folder and change it manually then save it with a different name that folder immediately (on saving) reverts back to the generic view mode. From past experience I guess I have to set something in several different places and using several different arcane menus but I have tried every combination I can think of. Roelof!!! Are you there? Hel? Ik heb nu uw hulp nodig (that's what Balefish said anyway!) -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.85.03 with K9 on Windows XP 5.1 tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View modes - I am losing hair, sleep and patience...
Hello Marten, Tuesday, December 19, 2006, 4:01:56 PM, you wrote: MG This is what I want to do: MG I want to design a view mode that will apply to 120 of 123 folders. MG Then I want 2 folders to have a slightly different layout. First step is to make sure that View/Global View Mode is set to No View Mode. Once this is done you should be able to create view modes as you see fit. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.86.11 beta on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Associating shortcuts to view modes
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 at 00:54:23 +0200, Claude wrote: Few TB versions ago it was possible as far as I remember to associate shortcuts to view modes,and if my memory serves me well, there were associated with shortcuts such as alt+shift+1, alt+shift+2 etc. Currently it is not possible to quickly switch from view mode to view mode with a single keystroke. Well on my copy of TB I still use those shortcuts. I don't recall ever having to recreate them, so I assumed they were either default settings in v3.85, or they were inherited from my earlier version. You seem to be running a beta version - is it a problem with that? -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Associating shortcuts to view modes
Hi all, Few TB versions ago it was possible as far as I remember to associate shortcuts to view modes,and if my memory serves me well, there were associated with shortcuts such as alt+shift+1, alt+shift+2 etc. Currently it is not possible to quickly switch from view mode to view mode with a single keystroke. Is it possible to regain this function or should it be added as a future feature for TB ? -- Greetings, Claude Renaud Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Associating shortcuts to view modes
Howdy Claude, Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 11:54:23 PM, Claude wrotened: Claude Few TB versions ago it was possible as far as I remember to associate Claude shortcuts to view modes,and if my memory serves me well, there were Claude associated with shortcuts such as alt+shift+1, alt+shift+2 etc. Claude Currently it is not possible to quickly switch from view mode to view Claude mode with a single keystroke. Claude Is it possible to regain this function or should it be added as a future Claude feature for TB ? There are two options I think. I think you can set shortcuts for view modes in viewtoolbarscustomiseshortcutsviewGlobal view mode or you can change the method of threading a message by the following · None - no threading, all messages are shown individually. Alt + 0 · References - uses two header fields, In-Reply-To and References, which both contain unique Message ID's. Alt + 1 · Subject - threads are made up of messages with the same subject line (minus the Re: for replies). Alt + 2 · Sender - threads by the name/address in the From header. Alt + 3 · Recipient - threads by the name/address in the To header. Alt + 4 But i'm not sure thats what you meant. But thats all I know. -- Have Fun, Ben Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 No, I'm not addicted. The drugs are my friends. Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Folder specific view modes
rg In ver 2.12 is there a way to set this or that folder to use a rg different view mode than the rest of the folders? I see in the rg folder properties general tab an unavailable option to Edit view rg mode. Why is this unavailable? PB While you wait for more competent replies, you set each folder to PB no view mode. Think this stops you settings from being overwritten PB by any standard setting. Ah! The view mode options do not alter the real MODE of the view, only the columnar options. I was hoping that folder specific view modes would allow me to say folderA is HTML views and folderB is plain text view mode. Thx RG -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: All the good music has already been written by people with wigs and stuff. - Frank Zappa Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder specific view modes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 21 Aug 2006, @ @ at 09:35:20 -0400, when rich gregory wrote: rg In ver 2.12 is there a way to set this or that folder to use a rg different view mode than the rest of the folders? I see in the rg folder properties general tab an unavailable option to Edit view rg mode. Why is this unavailable? PB While you wait for more competent replies, you set each folder to PB no view mode. Think this stops you settings from being overwritten PB by any standard setting. Ah! The view mode options do not alter the real MODE of the view, only the columnar options. I was hoping that folder specific view modes would allow me to say folderA is HTML views and folderB is plain text view mode. Might be, or might not be again, that it can be solved somehow by some macro/regex/[q]uick ( [d]irty) [t]emplate self-triggered within The Wanted View Mode which would trigger the command otherwise triggered (remember the Trigger from Only Fools And Horses?) manually (pardon my expression) when the Ctrl+Alt+Tab is used to switch to the HTML/plain text view. It sounds a bit complicated (convoluted?) but what is TBat for and why we all love it despite its random self-triggering between its Mr Jackill and Mr(Ms?) Beta nature? (: A beautiful fresh rain here folks. Enjoy my enjoyment. I hope you are all well, to a reasonable and deserved extent, and that you are able to (p)reserve some quality time for pork and to cogitate, or ruminate, or simply mull and chew over origin and intention of universe, for without it the water never would...have been wet, which is most fascinating and above all significant, since a dry universe is a sadness that grinds and whines. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ http://tronogi.tripod.com/pgp/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 670 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, Gentoo Vector ~ Wine ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6-svn-4217 o tiger192 (Cygwin/MinGW32) iQEVAwUBROnWArSpHvHEUtv8AQgiNQf+O6f6o/ezHrqv6s3a9qd5EdFm9eDetaB7 ukDPKcRNWfeUEECSsNHxzI8nwoYoPWwhSwBPcBypG+02J8yCenOeHjeeMuiykHgB 3asQa+RNNVjoCw0RbZFXPbu2rxayv6gaUj6Z/L0vwMuEUJWK8PRbP39/6Hzb5884 zIfpgva89QRgha5nGbRQjnPtDM+jtuOf7cd1v9EUVYPT8+Xoe4P7e74a1wola8B6 SyesIY9+RIjs3tSL7MaUn5s8SdDf55MJ9oQ6GklY7RwbbvwwTpTNGGu3T87KLcJp gy0/DWMSymdVUowtAkNxGjWV/zywDt7FFZgTX+TxvrBdCpiY/LmbUA== =iYuh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Folder specific view modes
The view mode options do not alter the real MODE of the view, only the columnar options. I was hoping that folder specific view modes would allow me to say folderA is HTML views and folderB is plain text view mode. MM Might be, or might not be again, that it can be solved somehow by MM some macro/regex/[q]uick ( [d]irty) [t]emplate self-triggered MM within The Wanted View Mode which would trigger the command MM otherwise triggered (remember the Trigger from Only Fools And MM Horses?) manually (pardon my expression) when the Ctrl+Alt+Tab is MM used to switch to the HTML/plain text view. It sounds a bit MM complicated (convoluted?) AH! (Another thing learned today about TB!) Ctrl+Alt+Tab will swap the view mode manually. That does indeed help me! But, you are right, there may be a code jockey who could template a way to make each view folder specific as desired. MM A beautiful fresh rain here folks. Enjoy my enjoyment. I hope you MM are all well, to a reasonable and deserved extent, and that you are MM able to (p)reserve some quality time for pork and to cogitate, or MM ruminate, or simply mull and chew over origin and intention of MM universe, for without it the water never would...have been wet, MM which is most fascinating and above all significant, since a dry MM universe is a sadness that grinds and whines. I very much hope you enjoy your enjoyment. I would enjoy that. We should all be so lucky! Rich -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: Rome did not create a great empire by having meetings; they did it by killing all those who opposed them. Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder specific view modes
Hello rich, On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:10:52 -0400 GMT (18/08/2006, 23:10 +0700 GMT), rich gregory wrote: rg I was hoping that folder specific view modes would allow me to say rg folderA is HTML views and folderB is plain text view mode. No, I don't think that's possible. But it's a good item for the wish list! -- Cheers, Thomas. Why is it that most nudists are people you don't want to see naked? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder specific view modes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Sat, 19 Aug 2006, @ @ at 22:18:20 +0700, when Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello rich, On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:10:52 -0400 GMT (18/08/2006, 23:10 +0700 GMT), rich gregory wrote: rg I was hoping that folder specific view modes would allow me to say rg folderA is HTML views and folderB is plain text view mode. No, I don't think that's possible. But it's a good item for the wish list! Sure. Like the one for the Draft folder. (-: I am for establishment of Ministry of Useless Funny/Fine Features (MUFF). I just don't know whom to appoint the minister... g - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ http://tronogi.tripod.com/pgp/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 670 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, Gentoo Vector ~ Wine ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6-svn-4217 o tiger192 (Cygwin/MinGW32) iQEVAwUBROd/8rSpHvHEUtv8AQgyJAf/UR23+5XPhZFREEzN4q2n+1BKDBFXXZDu DaSJPr1Mrl7DOneLsKvSn2seR/6z56Dy602ka9rEP+bsx+IQiGJAcn6w+ChkD9jp bFTTVnXzYCcxV0TuSvxKoO22kbw2gyEtlpOG41QVxEdTQ9fXSusYpU0yLC4LOzQe QveEb7ENUcMsr1xIqvUQ52he8wJBLTBww33isf7bUas7wNUktFTle+NnvknYhxc+ /xjkCjXCMQ0WslZOLMIPDLrkAT78N4jDfTu7V5aA3KK35QzAQ6N02llVgXsQq3d9 ZFJdVKmHH3n5DyfE+dKGws7VROC0tfQGK5ooKQzzk3xboRdruGWc8w== =LH4j -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Folder specific view modes
rg In ver 2.12 is there a way to set this or that folder to use a different rg view mode than the rest of the folders? rg I see in the folder properties general tab an unavailable option to rg Edit view mode. Why is this unavailable? PB While you wait for more competent replies, you set each folder to no PB view mode. PB Think this stops you settings from being overwritten by any standard PB setting. Ah! The view mode options do not alter the real MODE of the view, only the columnar options. I was hoping that folder specific view modes would allow me to say folderA is HTML views and folderB is plain text view mode. Thx RG -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: All the good music has already been written by people with wigs and stuff. - Frank Zappa Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Folder specific view modes
Hello Bat-Folk! In ver 2.12 is there a way to set this or that folder to use a different view mode than the rest of the folders? I see in the folder properties general tab an unavailable option to Edit view mode. Why is this unavailable? Thx all RG -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: First things first, but not necessarily in that order. Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder specific view modes
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], Friday, August 18, 2006, 6:35:04 AM, you wrote: rg Hello Bat-Folk! rg In ver 2.12 is there a way to set this or that folder to use a different rg view mode than the rest of the folders? rg I see in the folder properties general tab an unavailable option to rg Edit view mode. Why is this unavailable? rg Thx all rg RG While you wait for more competent replies, you set each folder to no view mode. Think this stops you settings from being overwritten by any standard setting. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...Your conscience may not keep you from doing wrong, but it sure keeps you from enjoying it. Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder specific view modes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 17 Aug 2006, @ @ at 16:35:04 -0400, when rich gregory wrote: In ver 2.12 is there a way to set this or that folder to use a different view mode than the rest of the folders? There is, verily, and the consort/escort/bulldog of a such missive is a bliss of 6.569 karats. I see in the folder properties general tab an unavailable option to Edit view mode. Why is this unavailable? Nobody knows that, for this world is full of magic and in a good part charmed. Try this though to dispel the spell... Right-click on the particular/loved/concrete(or rubber) folder, then Folder View Mode, and then choose what you have at disposal in the dro(o)p down menu. If you have there only the Generic View Mode then go to Options | Preferences | New, and make some new View Mode according to your wish, name it, say, Fancy View Mode 01 and click [OK]. Then right-click on the particular/loved/concrete(or rubber) folder again, then Folder View Mode, and then choose Fancy View Mode 01. If even that doesn't work, then we would have to find six virgin gals (one of 15, then 16, 17, 18, 19 and one of 32 years and six and a half months, and of which one has to be crosseyed too), one wing of a bat, sixteen drops of urine of one-eyed grizzly and to try something else one night of a full moon. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ http://tronogi.tripod.com/pgp/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 670 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, Gentoo Vector ~ Wine ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6-svn-4217 o tiger192 (Cygwin/MinGW32) iQEVAwUBROUY3rSpHvHEUtv8AQjPfwf/X3f1yDfBFFtUCuFM0ua/mPaRKrgQzwYG 3n9jWy2LPYMLRD2DSo9bFSu1qFW5os2n8AXjBE3DVRlrLZyL2U0Mrd4BFU7eXceq fCnDMgL0vOvJH/UJYmT6n6WLt1ZSopAeVTlPugOhnin+cjlxaFtJtEB4bRaNFXue cT/JvH3uyraf8//D9t3C10kKy510G59MTo6T8C6tsmBSSYoA0UacEiG1tbGUCagZ SdykkKZ91vXLhp4nDB4+0wCtOcQvyedoQzBVHp35dZ7vTFsM4AzrRtQL5M+tJo/o H2qwiw0/I2HTaOd+cwLEEy7pQlszsm9ZS5/nabstXeWUIeZdhCvMMw== =E6H3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: View modes are not sticking
Make sure that under View/Global View Mode you have No View Mode. If you have any other View Mode selected that will be what is used for all accounts. Oh for goodness sake - it was that easy! At last they are behaving - as far as usability goes TB's interface leaves much to be desired I think. What with font settings all over the place, view modes all over the place... Thanks for the insight. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.80.06 with K9 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
View modes are not sticking
Am I the only one with a roblem getting View Modes to stick? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.80.06 with K9 on Windows XP 5.1 tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View modes are not sticking
Hallo Marten, On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:27:33 +0100GMT (4-8-2006, 17:27 , where I live), you wrote: MG Am I the only one with a roblem getting View Modes to stick? The best way to get them to stick is setting them in the properties menu of the folder. -- Groetjes, Roelof A noisy exhaust to some almost amounts to a mating call. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.81.13 Beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpjfyh4jDJ34.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: View modes are not sticking
Hi Marten, In your message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent on Friday, August 4, 2006, 4:27:33 PM, you wrote: MG Am I the only one with a roblem getting View Modes to MG stick? No trouble here, so far. What issues are you seeing and how are you setting/changing your view modes? I have 'save' as view mode setting in Preferences. I go to View Global View Mode Manage View Modes I select the general view mode for most of my accounts (saved as Default) and select all accounts in USe By. I then select the threaded view mode and tick USe By for The Bat and CSS Discuss. I the select my ordered by sujbject for Junk and Trash But when I go back in many of the 'General accoun t folders are in threaded mode and sometimes it seems TB and CSS are in Default mode. I have tried to see if there is a pattern byut I cannot see what it is. In the Preferences, what do you have selected for the view modes option - mine is set to ask before applying/saving changes. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.80.06 with K9 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: View modes are not sticking
Hallo Marten, On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:27:33 +0100GMT (4-8-2006, 17:27 , where I live), you wrote: MG Am I the only one with a roblem getting View Modes to stick? The best way to get them to stick is setting them in the properties menu of the folder. I have tried that but it doesn't seem to stick there either. I am going to have to start from scratch and see if I can see any consistency in what seems to be a misbehaviour. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.80.06 with K9 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View modes are not sticking
Hello Marten, Friday, August 4, 2006, 10:27:33 AM, you wrote: Am I the only one with a roblem getting View Modes to stick? Make sure that under View/Global View Mode you have No View Mode. If you have any other View Mode selected that will be what is used for all accounts. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.81.13 Beta on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
View modes
Hello, My view modes don't seem to work - at all. TB 3.5 has picked them up from my old 3.0.1.33 but: - Right-clicking on different view modes in the header has no effect - If I make changes from the setup columns option it always selects the same view mode, are changes are ignored anyway - Manage view modes has no effect Is this just me? Next step is a clean install I suppose, but how would I make sure that my view modes are ignored? TIA, -- Nick TheBat!: v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View modes
Hello Nick, Monday, May 16, 2005, 6:28:35 AM, you wrote: ND My view modes don't seem to work - at all. TB 3.5 has picked them up ND from my old 3.0.1.33 but: ND - Right-clicking on different view modes in the header has no effect ND - If I make changes from the setup columns option it always selects ND the same view mode, are changes are ignored anyway ND - Manage view modes has no effect ND Is this just me? ND Next step is a clean install I suppose, but how would I make sure that ND my view modes are ignored? Make sure the View/Global Viewmode/No Viewmode is checked. If you have anything else selected it overrides everything else. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Do you know which folders are using each of your view modes?
Hello all, If not, please support https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2584 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Warning about saving changes to view modes
Hello all, Please see https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4660 and support it if you agree. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
Hi On Sunday 6 March 2005 at 2:22:27 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Fernandez wrote: even the Menu Navigator doesn't help me. What/where is the menu navigator? I can't find the term in the help file and the search tool on TBUDP brings up several pages none of which actually contain the search term. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 7 Mar 2005, @ @ at 20:59:04 +, when MFPA wrote: even the Menu Navigator doesn't help me. What/where is the menu navigator? I can't find the term in the help file and the search tool on TBUDP brings up several pages none of which actually contain the search term. On the left of the TB's title bar you have a tiny button near to minimize one, with a question mark on it. Push it (by mammalizing it). There is also a kbd shortcut but I can't recall, since it doesn't work under my 98SE, while in XP does. Perhaps Alt+F12. -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ o [Earth LOG: 187 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector via Wine... pgpyrBiXTWfhV.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
Hello Mica, On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MM On the left of the TB's title bar you have a tiny button near to MM minimize one, Not here. all I have to the left is The Bat icon and The Bat! words. MM with a question mark on it. To the right are the usual Minimise restore and Close but never had the tiny button. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.0.9.4 Return SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | Opera 8.00 build 7483 http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
MFPA @ 2005-Mar-7 3:59:04 PM View Modes mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] even the Menu Navigator doesn't help me. What/where is the menu navigator? I can't find the term in the help file and the search tool on TBUDP brings up several pages none of which actually contain the search term. If it is not there, go to Options/Preferences and check Display MenuNavigator... -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Accessing a POP3 mailbox. In an office: AFTER TEA BREAK STAFF SHOULD EMPTY THE TEAPOT AND STAND UPSIDE DOWN ON THE DRAINING BOARD pgpnVr97pArqU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
Richard Wakeford @ 2005-Mar-7 5:25:49 PM View Modes mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On the left of the TB's title bar you have a tiny button near to minimize one, Not here. all I have to the left is The Bat icon and The Bat! words. Please see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Accessing a POP3 mailbox. This aphorism would be seven words long if it were six words shorter. pgpiBitM10TYK.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
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Re: View Modes
***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 7 Mar 2005, @ @ at 23:25:49 +0100, when Richard Wakeford wrote: Hello Mica, On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MM On the left of the TB's title bar you have a tiny button near to MM minimize one, Not here. all I have to the left is The Bat icon and The Bat! words. Argh...I'm really silly these days with these typos -- on the *right*! I am sending tiny attachment with screen shot of this area: it will reach TBOT. MM with a question mark on it. -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ :flagmica: [Earth LOG: 188 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector via Wine... pgprZNgRwf5Dr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
Hello Peter, On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO See Options | Preferences | General | Display MenuNavigator ... Never stop learning with this programme. Thanks. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.0.9.4 Return SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | Opera 8.00 build 7483 http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
Hello Chris, On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Not here. all I have to the left is The Bat icon and The Bat! words. C Please see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Would have done if it had been posted at the time! ;-) -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.0.9.4 Return SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | Opera 8.00 build 7483 http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
View Modes
Hello TBUDL, Yesterday I edited my View Mode Lists, but today I decided I don't like it and want to change it back. For the heck, I cannot find how to edit View Modes, the menu item which I used yesterday is AWOL. Don't ask me where it was yesterday, and even the Menu Navigator doesn't help me. I can now only choose View Modes that have been set up already. As they say: I didn't change anything! Same old TB v3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. -- Thanks for helping someone who's getting old, Thomas. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
Hello Thomas, For the heck, I cannot find how to edit View Modes, Options/Preferences/Messages/view Modes. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.9.4 Return Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
Hello MAU, On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 16:08:30 +0100 GMT (06/03/2005, 22:08 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: For the heck, I cannot find how to edit View Modes, M Options/Preferences/Messages/view Modes. Thanks, that was it. -- Cheers, Thomas. Hilf einem Freund in der Not und er wird sich an dich erinnern, wenn er wieder in Not ist. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
View modes
I've tried to use different view modes for different folders, without success. In Options - Preferences - View Mode I have ticked the folders I want to apply a certain mode to (in Use by), AND I have marked it in each folder under Folder - Folder View Mode, but every time ALL my folders change their view mode. Thus I can only have one view mode for all folders. This can't be right, so what am I doing wrong? -- Best regards, Britt Henrikson Using TB! 2.10.03 on Win2000 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View modes
Hello Britt, Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 7:53:58 AM, you wrote: BH I've tried to use different view modes for different folders, without BH success. In Options - Preferences - View Mode I have ticked the BH folders I want to apply a certain mode to (in Use by), AND I have BH marked it in each folder under Folder - Folder View Mode, but every BH time ALL my folders change their view mode. Thus I can only have one BH view mode for all folders. This can't be right, so what am I doing BH wrong? The first thing you need to do is set View - Global View Mode to (No View Mode) Then you can set different modes to each folder. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View modes
Hello Britt, On 6 Jul 2004 at 14:53:58 +0200 GMT [14:53 CEST] you wrote: BH I've tried to use different view modes for different folders, without BH success. In Options - Preferences - View Mode I have ticked the BH folders I want to apply a certain mode to (in Use by), AND I have BH marked it in each folder under Folder - Folder View Mode, but every BH time ALL my folders change their view mode. Thus I can only have one BH view mode for all folders. This can't be right, so what am I doing BH wrong? Set View-Global View Mode to No Viewmode -- Cheers, Andre :andre: Bleib Menschen fern, die deine Ambitionen belächeln. Kleine Menschen tun das immer, aber die wirklich Großen geben dir das Gefühl, dass auch du groß werden kannst. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View modes - thanks!
Hello Stuart and Andre, The first thing you need to do is set View - Global View Mode to (No View Mode) Then you can set different modes to each folder. Thank you both so much for this info!! -- Best regards, Britt Henrikson Using TB! 2.10.03 on Win2000 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
Hello all, Thursday, April 29, 2004, Ian A. White wrote: What has happened to View Modes? I have installed 2.10.3 and cannot find the option to set the various folders to the view modes I had. Also the Menu navigator is no longer there. You are talking about 2.10, but You are using 2.01.3. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.10.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
Hello Ian, What has happened to View Modes? I have installed 2.10.3 and cannot find the option to set the various folders to the view modes I had. No problem here. They are still available from Options / Preferences / Messages / View Modes or by right clicking on any folder and selecting Folder view mode from the context menu. Also the Menu navigator is no longer there. Can't find it either. But I don't remember where it was because I never used it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Winamp Playing: George Benson f. Joe Sample - Medicine Man (Smoothjazz.Com - The worlds best Smooth Jazz - Live From Monterey Bay) Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
MAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 29-Apr-2004 7:34:04 PM View Modes mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Can't find [the Menu Navigator] either. Option - Preferences - General - Display menu navigator in ... But I don't remember where it was because I never used it. I didn't either. The icon wasn't working either... -- Chris - Nun mi Esperanton lernas. Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Message on a leaflet: IF YOU CANNOT READ, THIS LEAFLET WILL TELL YOU HOW TO GET LESSONS pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: view modes
Hello Anselm, On 22 Apr 2004 at 21:49:43 +0200 GMT [21:49 CEST] you wrote: AB Hi André, *sigh* I know you only meant to do it right, but actually my name is Andre without any accent. I'm not french at all! ;) Have you set View-Global View Mode to (No View Mode)? AB Thanks a bunch, that did the trick! You're welcome! -- Cheers, Andre L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers. Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: view modes
*sigh* I know you only meant to do it right, but actually my name is Andre without any accent. Sorry for that and thanks again, Andre! All the best, Anselm Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
view modes
Hi, Here's the next query about version 2.10 - seems the new features don't come easily to me... Well, I tried to set up two different view modes - one for my business mail, one for mailing lists (the latter one with threaded view). Saved them with different names and specified for which folders each one applies. Unfortunately, they don't work as I want them to. Either ALL folders are in threaded view, or none is. Changing the view mode for a folder by context menu or short cut seems to have effect. When I select a folder and change the view using the View View threads by command, it is changed - but, again, for ALL folders, not only for the selected one. Again, what am I doing wrong? Everything was fine before I started to play with view modes, but now I'm not able to set different viewing options for different folders anymore... Kind regards, Anselm Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: view modes
Hello Anselm, On 22 Apr 2004 at 18:17:44 +0200 GMT [18:17 CEST] you wrote: AB Again, what am I doing wrong? Everything was fine before I started to AB play with view modes, but now I'm not able to set different viewing AB options for different folders anymore... Have you set View-Global View Mode to (No View Mode)? -- Cheers, Andre Love is the feeling that you feel when you feel the feeling that you never felt before. Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: view modes
Hi André, Have you set View-Global View Mode to (No View Mode)? Thanks a bunch, that did the trick! Kind regards, Anselm Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View modes - Help me before I shoot someone!
Hello Costas, Friday, March 12, 2004, 9:48:55 AM, you wrote: Costas View Modes is a torture instrument. I can survive with it for Costas a while, but if I make a mistake and click on a column to sort Costas the folder in a different way, then I have to play with the Costas settings for a long time before I finally get things back in Costas order. Is there a definitive guide on how to manage View Modes Costas or do I really need to be a nuclear physicist to understand Costas how to use this feature (I almost said torture instrument)? You could do what I do. I only have three modes 1. Lists (Like tbudl) 2. Discussions (non lists but threaded) 3. Normal (my inbox) I do on occasion sort a folder a different way, but it's usually because I'm click happy and mistakenly clicked on the header bar. I just click on the header bar to sort back the way it was. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.05 Beta/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes choices Not same
Hello Stefan, On 27 Feb 2004 at 03:01:08 +0200 GMT [02:01 CET] you wrote: M If I uncheck a box I would expect the corresponding folder to be set to M (no view mode). Why not? ST No view mode means using some column settings anyway. Which one ST should be used? Is it account-wide, folder-specific or parent ST folder's? How about the same as when I explicitly select 'no view mode' from one of the other places? -- Cheers, Andre The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed. Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes choices Not same
Stefan Tanurkov wrote: M If I uncheck a box I would expect the corresponding folder to be set to M (no view mode). Why not? No view mode means using some column settings anyway. Which one should be used? Is it account-wide, folder-specific or parent folder's? If you uncheck that box, then the folder should revert to 'Folder specific settings' since it would not have been assigned a view mode. The folder's default should be 'the folder specific settings', IOW's, no view mode has been assigned. Another alternative would be the generic view mode which would act sort of as a default mode that the user would like a folder to have unless he specifically makes the folder use its own specific settings or a particular view mode. I do agree with the others though, that if I hit the 'Used by', I should see the list with those folders already using the particular view mode already selected. -- -=allie_M=- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes choices Not same
Hello Stefan, Yesterday, you and I wrote: No view mode means using some column settings anyway. Which one should be used? Is it account-wide, folder-specific or parent folder's? Right, now I get you. H, I'll have to think about it and talk with my pillow tonight, if I ever get to bed ;-) I had a not too long talk with my pillow last night (I fell asleep) and she gave me a couple of suggestions for you ;-) What do you do when a view mode is deleted? Right, the folders that were using it are set to (No View Mode). However, since the Generic Mode can be set/defined by the user and it is a mode that cannot be deleted, I would uses this as a default to revert to. Now, what would I do (well, my pillow ;) with the Use by... dialog? 1.- Display on the Title bar the name of the View Mode that was selected prior to clicking the Use by... button. One can make mistakes when selecting the view mode :) 2.- Make this a Use/Used by (or however you want to call it) dialog. The thing is that if it is opened for a view mode that is already being used by some folders, they should appear as ticked with the check mark in the display of the folder tree and the rest of folders with a blank box. 3.- If you remove the checkmark from one or more of the folders, they should revert (be set to) Generic mode. 4.- But, what happens if you add a few folders (tick the empty box) to use this view mode and then change your mind, or notice you have ticked one you didn't really want to? You remove the check mark, right. But should this folder now revert to the view mode it was using or to Generic. I believe it should stay with the previous mode, whatever it was. 5.- But if I have added a few check marks and after scrolling up and down I remove a couple of them, how do I know what view mode will be applied to these two folders? Previous (if it was different to the one we are dealing with when I opened the Used by dialog) or Generic? Simple, use three possible states: Blank, Check mark and X. If I open the dialog for view mode A and Folder1 is checked, then that folder can only toggle from Checked to Xed and from Xed to Checked. But, if Folder2 is Blank, this can only toggle from Blank to Checked and from Checked to Blank. Then, when I click OK, the actions will be: Box is Blank - Do nothing to the folder and it will use the view mode it was using. Box is Checked - Set folder to use View mode A (the one we are dealing with) Box is Xed - Set folder to use Generic mode. I don't how and where you hold your folder tree structure, or if you build one when the Used by... dialog is opened, but the above can be easily implemented with a four column table: Folder View Mode Original state Changes Original state is what is displayed when the dialog is opened and can only be Blank or Checked and is also used to see if toggling can (should) be Blank/Checked or Checked/Xed. Changes will reflect that changes, and is the column used to take the actions when clicking OK: If Changes is Blank, do nothing and check next folder. If Changes if Checked, set folder to use view mode A. If Changes is Xed, set folder to use Generic view mode. And finally, to easily remind the user what is going to happen if he clicks OK, the three possible states (ICONS for) should be displayed on the dialog itself, with a short explanatory text, perhaps right below the Unselect all button. Hope I have been able to explain what my pillow told me last night ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.04.7 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes choices Not same
Hello Greg, View Modes in Option | Preferences | Messages | VM | select VM | click Used by ... are not the same as when in Main window Folder Properties | column settings | Use view mode VMname or when in Main window and right mouse click folder | Folder view mode | selected VM. Used by ...? My button says Use by See my mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Is that what you mean? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.04.7 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes choices Not same
Hello MAU, Thursday, February 26, 2004, 4:47:56 AM, MAU wrote: M Is that what you M mean? NO. If you have global view modes off and are using individual view modes for folders which have been set from the main window when you go into Options | Preferences | Messages | View Modes | select VM (one which you are using on a folder) | click Use by Now look at the folder where you know you are using that particular view mode and you will see it is NOT selected. BUG? -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes choices Not same
Hello Greg, Now look at the folder where you know you are using that particular view mode and you will see it is NOT selected. Maybe I didn't explain it clearly enough, but that is exactly what I mean when I say that Use by ... should also and actually be UseD (notice the D) by Use by =/= Used by. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.04.7 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes choices Not same
Hello MAU, View Mode you can open the Use by.. dialog to select the folder that Present and past tenses make a difference, and so do singular and plural :) The quoted line should read folderS, because you can select more than just one :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.04.7 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: View Modes choices Not same
Hello Greg, Thursday, February 26, 2004, 5:03:20 PM, you wrote: GS If you have global view modes off and are using individual view modes GS for folders which have been set from the main window when you go into GS Options | Preferences | Messages | View Modes | select VM (one which you GS are using on a folder) | click Use by Now look at the folder GS where you know you are using that particular view mode and you will see GS it is NOT selected. It may be selected, but what if you uncheck a box? It's not quite clear what to do... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: View Modes choices Not same
Hello MAU, Friday, February 27, 2004, 2:52:31 AM, you wrote: M If I uncheck a box I would expect the corresponding folder to be set to M (no view mode). Why not? No view mode means using some column settings anyway. Which one should be used? Is it account-wide, folder-specific or parent folder's? -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes choices Not same
Hello Stefan, Thursday, February 26, 2004, 6:19:39 PM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: GS If you have global view modes off and are using individual view modes GS for folders which have been set from the main window when you go into GS Options | Preferences | Messages | View Modes | select VM (one which you GS are using on a folder) | click Use by Now look at the folder GS where you know you are using that particular view mode and you will see GS it is NOT selected. ST It may be selected, but what if you uncheck a box? It's not quite ST clear what to do... M If I uncheck a box I would expect the corresponding folder to be set to M (no view mode). Why not? ST No view mode means using some column settings anyway. Which one ST should be used? Is it account-wide, folder-specific or parent ST folder's? Ok I now see what you are saying. I still feel there is inconsistency here. Shouldn't there be a default order here which should provide some insight as to what No view mode should be used? Don't get me wrong because I think View Modes are GREAT, however I do feel it is this inconsistency which make them difficult and confusing to learn. How could you have a folder specific No view mode if you had a View Mode previously selected? So a proposed hierarchy could be to inherent the No view mode of the parent, and if none for the parent to default to the account-wide No view mode. Which raises the question: Where are account-wide No view mode defined? Just thinking out loud, and excuse me if I'm all wet. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes choices Not same
Hello Greg, I don't get to hung up on past tense and present tense. I thought you meant what was actually in the UI. Maybe I may have made a slight grammatically error, but my point is I think it is a BUG. Well, as you know, English is not my mother language and I thought the idea that Use by =/= Used by would be clearly understood. No, I don't thing it is a bug, I think it is WAD. When you create a new View Mode you can open the Use by.. dialog to select the folder that will USE the just created view. However, when you open the dialog for an already existing view, I agree with you, and that was my wish for an additional feature, the dialog should show as selected (ticked) the folders that are already using (view is being USED by) the selected view. You should see folders selected for the view mode your looking at under the options | preferences that you have set from the main window. Right, agree. And same thing when you right click on a folder and select Copy column settings to BTW, for sake of coherency I think this option should be called Copy view mode to..., or even better Assign view mode to..., because it is what the option does. It is not just the column settings (columns displayed and widths) that get copied. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.04.7 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes choices Not same
Hello MAU, Thursday, February 26, 2004, 9:35:10 AM, MAU wrote: Now look at the folder where you know you are using that particular view mode and you will see it is NOT selected. M Maybe I didn't explain it clearly enough, but that is exactly what I M mean when I say that Use by ... should also and actually be UseD M (notice the D) by Use by =/= Used by. Whatever. I don't get to hung up on past tense and present tense. I thought you meant what was actually in the UI. Maybe I may have made a slight grammatically error, but my point is I think it is a BUG. You should see folders selected for the view mode your looking at under the options | preferences that you have set from the main window. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
View modes in 2.04.7: what the H happened?
I just upgraded to 2.04.7 from CE. My view modes no longer work. I'm stuck in my Subject Received mode and can't change to any other mode! Not from the menu, not with the Shift-Alt hot keys, and regardless of folder. Anybody know what gives? jon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View modes in 2.04.7: what the H happened?
Hello jwayne, Wednesday, February 25, 2004, 6:19:17 PM, jwayne wrote: j I'm stuck in j my Subject Received mode and can't change to any other mode! In the main window what is selected under View | Global View Mode? If it is something other than No View Mode, then you have a global view selected across all folders. Change it to No View Mode and individual folders will have independent VM settings. Select individual folder VMs by the following: 1 right mouse click one of the column headers in the message list pane | select which VM you want in the 2nd grouping. 2 right mouse click the folder | folder view mode | select VM you want in 2nd grouping 3 right mouse click the folder | properties | column settings | select Use view mode VMname I haven't check it out yet but you can set up individual settings for a folder without having a VM name which will save the settings for that folder. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder View Modes
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 09:59:33 -0600, Greg Strong wrote: | I am no expert on View Modes (VM), but I'll give it a shot. | As I understand it you have 3 places where you can apply VM. | 1 Main Window | 2 View Folder FolderName of AcctName | 3 Browse Ticker Messages I actually found out 2 more areas for view modes 4 Message Finder 5 Browse Deleted Messages 6 Browse Ticker Messages Arjan -- Using The Beta! (v2.04.7) with Win98SE NL on ASUS P2B motherboard. One Intel Pentium II 266Mhz processor. 128 MB 100 Mhz SDRam. S3 Trio 3D graphic accelerator and Compaq V55 15 monitor. ESS 1868 Sound System. 3,06 GB Fujitsu HD. 40X CDROM. NEC 1.44 FDD. FTGate 2.2 mailserver. SpamPal 1.53 inc. Bayesian Regex plugins, X-Ray 1.0 Mailheader Modifier and AVG 6.0 (Free) AntiVirus. Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder View Modes
Hello Arjan, Wednesday, February 25, 2004, 7:09:42 PM, Arjan de Groot wrote: ... snip | 3 Browse Ticker Messages ... snip AdG 6 Browse Ticker Messages 6 = 3 -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
View Modes choices Not same
Hello TBUDL, Should the view modes selected be the same without regard to how you look at them? View Modes in Option | Preferences | Messages | VM | select VM | click Used by ... are not the same as when in Main window Folder Properties | column settings | Use view mode VMname or when in Main window and right mouse click folder | Folder view mode | selected VM. -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v2.04.7 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html