Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-11-04 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Thursday 31 October 2013 at 1:19:53 PM, in
mid:565413632.20131031081...@fastmail.fm, Stuart Cuddy wrote:



 The one thing I learned early on, was to set Global
 View Mode to No View Mode and leave it there. I see
 no purpose for it and if you set it to anything but No
 View Mode it just takes over everything.  

Isn't that what global means?


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Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-11-04 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Saturday 2 November 2013 at 3:52:52 PM, in
mid:119627865.20131102155...@chriswilson.tv, Chris Wilson wrote:



 I am, and was, using 5.8.8, I am not sure why TB! is
 not adding the correct version designator, I'll have a
 poke about.

What Thomas was referring to is the List Footer, added by this mailing
list and not by TB!. To add the TB! version you are currently using,
and the Windows version information, you need to include in your
templates for this list something like:-

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%WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build %-
%WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION%-


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Re[2]: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-11-04 Thread Chris Wilson
 Hi


 On Saturday 2 November 2013 at 3:52:52 PM, in
 mid:119627865.20131102155...@chriswilson.tv, Chris Wilson wrote:



 I am, and was, using 5.8.8, I am not sure why TB! is
 not adding the correct version designator, I'll have a
 poke about.

 What Thomas was referring to is the List Footer, added by this mailing
 list and not by TB!. To add the TB! version you are currently using,
 and the Windows version information, you need to include in your
 templates for this list something like:-

 Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION on %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %-
 %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build %-
 %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION%-




04 November 2013


Ok, I have added the macro, thanks!

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Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-11-04 Thread Rick
 The one thing I learned early on, was to set Global  View Mode to No View 
 Mode and leave it there. I see  no purpose for it and if you set it to 
 anything but No  View Mode it just takes over everything. Isn't that what 
 global means?

It is a good, fast way to set all your folders to the way you always want to 
read your email
I have too many folders to even think about trying this, but I wonder if you 
set it to a specific view mode globally and then go back to no view mode 
would the settings done globally stay where they are but now you have the 
ability to change them?


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Re[2]: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-11-04 Thread Chris Wilson
 The one thing I learned early on, was to set Global  View Mode to No View 
 Mode and leave it there. I see  no purpose for it and if you set it to 
 anything but No  View Mode it just takes over everything. Isn't that 
 what global means?

 It is a good, fast way to set all your folders to the way you always want to 
 read your email
 I have too many folders to even think about trying this, but I
 wonder if you set it to a specific view mode globally and then go
 back to no view mode would the settings done globally stay where
 they are but now you have the ability to change them?




04 November 2013


I have set my own global view mode that I call Generic View Mode
with messasges threaded and in reverse date order, and it is behaving
itself so far. I then use the folder View tabs to genersate waht
folder by folder view mode I want, (All,[which is therer by
default],Today, Yesterday, This Week, Unread, and Flagged. So far so
good since deleting the CONFIG.CDB file and letting TB! recreate it
and re-setting as required. Still think it's close to broken as a
facility, and trust it as far as I can throw it ;)

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Re[3]: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-11-04 Thread Chris Wilson
 The one thing I learned early on, was to set Global  View Mode to No 
 View Mode and leave it there. I see  no purpose for it and if you set it 
 to anything but No  View Mode it just takes over everything. Isn't that 
 what global means?

 It is a good, fast way to set all your folders to the way you always want to 
 read your email
 I have too many folders to even think about trying this, but I
 wonder if you set it to a specific view mode globally and then go
 back to no view mode would the settings done globally stay where
 they are but now you have the ability to change them?




 04 November 2013


 I have set my own global view mode that I call Generic View Mode
 with messasges threaded and in reverse date order, and it is behaving
 itself so far. I then use the folder View tabs to genersate waht
 folder by folder view mode I want, (All,[which is therer by
 default],Today, Yesterday, This Week, Unread, and Flagged. So far so
 good since deleting the CONFIG.CDB file and letting TB! recreate it
 and re-setting as required. Still think it's close to broken as a
 facility, and trust it as far as I can throw it ;)

 -- 

 Chris Wilson

 Using The Bat! v5.8.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3










04 November 2013


And I really see no great advantage in it over No View Mode, just
wanted to see if behaved now I know what to do if it doesn't, and I
have secure back ups.!

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Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-11-04 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Monday 4 November 2013 at 4:43:54 PM, in
mid:473151678.20131104164...@chriswilson.tv, Chris Wilson wrote:


 I have set my own global view mode that I call
 Generic View Mode 

 And I really see no great advantage in it over No View
 Mode, just wanted to see if behaved now I know what to
 do if it doesn't, and I have secure back ups.!

I also have a Generic View Mode. And one called SortBySender which
IIRC appeared when I defined a tab with that name - although none of
my other tabs appeared as view modes, so maybe I was experimenting to
see what was the difference. And I have a further view mode with a 
blank name. For all three of my view modes, the Use by ... selection 
has no folders ticked. My Global View Mode is set to no view mode 
and I alter each folder individually as needed, though most are about 
the same. If I need a different view, I either use the Message List 
Columns dialog or I create a tab.

My preferred view is generally listed by created date, with new
messages at the top and threaded by references. Where messages are in
a thread, I see the thread starter at the top and the other messages
threaded below it. The minor irritation is where there is more than
one reply to the same message in a thread: the newer replies are
listed above the older ones. I would prefer them below so that when I
read down through the messages in a thread, I don't encounter as John
has already mentioned... before I see John's contribution. I have 
looked at this from time to time over the years but never found a way 
to achieve it in TB!.


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Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-11-04 Thread MAU
Hello MFPA,


 I would prefer them below so that when I read down through the
 messages in a thread, I don't encounter as John has already
 mentioned... before I see John's contribution. I have looked at this
 from time to time over the years but never found a way to achieve it
 in TB!.

Just set your view to show new messages at bottom, like I do, and your 
threads won't irritate you :-)

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Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-11-04 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Monday 4 November 2013 at 6:01:44 PM, in
mid:1854613844.20131104190...@gmail.com, MAU wrote:


 Just set your view to show new messages at bottom, like
 I do, and your threads won't irritate you :-)  


Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm awkward. I find showing new
messages at the bottom to be uncomfortable, don't know why. 

I don't know why it should be too much to ask that new messages (or
threads with new messages) are shown at the top of the list but
threads are still shown in the correct order for reading. I have used
newsreaders in the past that achieved this. But as I say, it is only a
minor irritation.


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Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-11-04 Thread MAU
Hello MFPA,


 Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm awkward. I find showing new
 messages at the bottom to be uncomfortable, don't know why.

Just because you find it unconfortable, that's why :-) 

 I don't know why it should be too much to ask that new messages (or
 threads with new messages) are shown at the top of the list but
 threads are still shown in the correct order for reading.

You are sorting by Created date, newest at top. And this applies to 
messages in a thread too.

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Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-11-04 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Monday 4 November 2013 at 6:32:15 PM, in
mid:1723212929.20131104193...@gmail.com, MAU wrote:


 You are sorting by Created date, newest at top. And
 this applies to  messages in a thread too.  


Yes, I get the logic from a sorting point of view. But from a
usability point of view I have never understood why that would be
desirable inside a thread, and newsreaders I used in the past didn't
apply it inside threads. It is just something I see as sub-optimal in 
The Bat! but far outweighed by a host of other features.

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Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-11-04 Thread MAU
Hello MFPA,


 Yes, I get the logic from a sorting point of view. But from a
 usability point of view I have never understood why that would be
 desirable inside a thread, and newsreaders I used in the past didn't
 apply it inside threads. It is just something I see as sub-optimal in 
 The Bat! but far outweighed by a host of other features.

No matter what any newsreader does (or did), I see a contradiction that 
what you find 'confortable' at folder level is 'irritating' at thread 
level. 

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Re[2]: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-11-04 Thread MFPA
Hi MAU


On Monday 4 November 2013 at 8:58:40 PM, you wrote:


 No matter what any newsreader does (or did), I see a contradiction that
 what you find 'confortable' at folder level is 'irritating' at thread 
 level. 


We are all individuals and see things slightly differently. I see no
contradiction in displaying the newest message (that is not part
of a thread) or the newest (most recently added-to) thread at the top
of a folder but still displaying threads in reading order.



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Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-11-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Chris,

On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 21:07:46 -0400 GMT (01-Nov-13, 08:07 +0700 GMT),
Rick wrote:

 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information:

Current version is actually 5.8.8. Please upgrade and see whether the
problem persists.

What Windows version are you using?

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Re[2]: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-11-02 Thread Chris Wilson
 Hello Chris,

 On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 21:07:46 -0400 GMT (01-Nov-13, 08:07 +0700 GMT),
 Rick wrote:

 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information:

 Current version is actually 5.8.8. Please upgrade and see whether the
 problem persists.

 What Windows version are you using?



02 November 2013


I am, and was, using 5.8.8, I am not sure why TB! is not adding the
correct version designator, I'll have a poke about. Windows is XP Pro
with all updates. You may have missed my reply to myself, but I fixed
it, although I still see a minor problem / glitch. hers is what I
wrote yesterday. Thanks for the reply Thomas.

~~~

In the hope it may help others here is the fix I found, with very
welcome support from Rick here. Thanks Rick!

Renaming TBUSER.DEF made no difference at all, and I checked there was
only one copy of that file on my whole machine. This seemed very odd.
TB! opened with no apparent changes anywhere at all, and the problems
remained. RITLABS support also suggested renaming the RIT folder in
the registry.


Renaming and recreating the RIT folder didn't fix it either, I'd tried
this earlier, and all it did was make me re enter my registration
code. The problems remained... :(

What DID fix it was renaming the CONFIG.CDB folder and letting TB!
recreate it. I had to set up View Modes again from scratch, but the
two From: entries that were un-deletable, the un-deletable two View
Modes, and the frozen Tabs were all fixed at the same time by this.


Is 5.8.8 actually using TBUSER.DEF, as renaming it and re launching
TB! showed no changes whatsoever? Even a PC reboot made no difference.
TB! didn't attempt to recreate a new TBUSER.DEF, either. Thanks. I
would like to know if 5.8.8 and onwards do still use TBUSER.DEF?

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Re[2]: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-11-01 Thread Chris Wilson


 The one thing I learned early on, was to set Global View Mode to No View 
 Mode
 and leave it there. I see no purpose for it and if you set it to anything but
 No View Mode it just takes over everything.



01 November 2013

Thanks Stuart. That is how I have run it, I too see no purpose in it.
There are far too many places to alter View Modes and little in the
way of documentation to say how they interact, save suck it and see.
IMHO.

In the hope it may help others here is the fix I found, with very
welcome support from Rick here. Thanks Rick!

Renaming TBUSER.DEF made no difference at all, and I checked there was
only one copy of that file on my whole machine. This seemed very odd.
TB! opened with no apparent changes anywhere at all, and the problems
remained. RITLABS support also suggested renaming the RIT folder in
the registry.


Renaming and recreating the RIT folder didn't fix it either, I'd tried
this earlier, and all it did was make me re enter my registration
code. The problems remained... :(

What DID fix it was renaming the CONFIG.CDB folder and letting TB!
recreate it. I had to set up View Modes again from scratch, but the
two From: entries that were un-deletable, the un-deletable two View
Modes, and the frozen Tabs were all fixed at the same time by this.


Is 5.8.8 actually using TBUSER.DEF, as renaming it and re launching
TB! showed no changes whatsoever? Even a PC reboot made no difference.
TB! didn't attempt to recreate a new TBUSER.DEF, either. Thanks. I
would like to know if 5.8.8 and onwards do still use TBUSER.DEF?

Hoping this may help someone with similar problems.



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Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-10-31 Thread Chris Wilson


31 October 2013




I am getting headers showing two identical From: header lines, and in
the area where you manage the headers to display, that too is showing
two From: header lines, please see screen shot linked. Un-ticking one
of the two From: boxes works until a screen refresh, the both From:
headers are back. I can see the extra From: header in Options :
Preferences : Message Headers, but the option to delete either of the
two is greyed out. Thanks.TB1 is V 5.8.8 but did it with an earlier
5.8 version too.

http://www.gatesgarth.com/headers.jpg



I also just noticed I have two of the same View Modes called Generic
View Mode. Neither of these can be deleted. If it helps View Modes and
message pane tabs seem to have a mind of their own, which was one
reason I upgraded to a V5.* from the last of the V4 versions. To be
honest View Modes are a mess, unintuitive and to me, flaky in the
extreme :) Could a file be corrupted that is copied across versions?
Will V6 address this in any way? Thanks.



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Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-10-31 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Chris,
  A reminder of what Chris Wilson typed on:
  Thursday, October 31, 2013 at 10:53:55 GMT +

CW Will V6 address this in any way? Thanks.

I had the same mucked up View modes, doubles etc. and was able to delete them 
once I installed the v6 alpha. So there is hope. :)

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Re[2]: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-10-31 Thread Chris Wilson


 Hello Chris,
   A reminder of what Chris Wilson typed on:
   Thursday, October 31, 2013 at 10:53:55 GMT +

CW Will V6 address this in any way? Thanks.

 I had the same mucked up View modes, doubles etc. and was able to delete them
 once I installed the v6 alpha. So there is hope. :)



31 October 2013


  Thanks Stuart, the more I look at View Modes, and tabs the more
  confused I get. The whole thing needs a rethink, there are far too
  many means of accessing the menus for these, and seemingly no rhyme
  nor reason in what overrides what. I have used The Bat! for very
  many years, and generally it's superb, but View Modes, Global View
  Modes, Folder View Modes and now Tabs. What a hodge podge of
  disparate menus, it needs sorting! I have now managed to lock up TB!
  messing with these, it *appears* using Tabs it will try and select
  more than one tab at a time, and also seems to get its knickers in a
  twist balancing Tabs and View Modes and deciding which to use.



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Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-10-31 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Chris,
  A reminder of what Chris Wilson typed on:
  Thursday, October 31, 2013 at 13:12:53 GMT +

CW Thanks Stuart, the more I look at View Modes, and tabs the more
CW   confused I get. The whole thing needs a rethink, there are far too
CW   many means of accessing the menus for these, and seemingly no rhyme
CW   nor reason in what overrides what. I have used The Bat! for very
CW   many years, and generally it's superb, but View Modes, Global View
CW   Modes, Folder View Modes and now Tabs. What a hodge podge of
CW   disparate menus, it needs sorting! I have now managed to lock up TB!
CW   messing with these, it *appears* using Tabs it will try and select
CW   more than one tab at a time, and also seems to get its knickers in a
CW   twist balancing Tabs and View Modes and deciding which to use.

The one thing I learned early on, was to set Global View Mode to No View Mode
and leave it there. I see no purpose for it and if you set it to anything but
No View Mode it just takes over everything.

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Re[2]: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-10-31 Thread Chris Wilson


 Hello Chris,
   A reminder of what Chris Wilson typed on:
   Thursday, October 31, 2013 at 13:12:53 GMT +

CW Thanks Stuart, the more I look at View Modes, and tabs the more
CW   confused I get. The whole thing needs a rethink, there are far too
CW   many means of accessing the menus for these, and seemingly no rhyme
CW   nor reason in what overrides what. I have used The Bat! for very
CW   many years, and generally it's superb, but View Modes, Global View
CW   Modes, Folder View Modes and now Tabs. What a hodge podge of
CW   disparate menus, it needs sorting! I have now managed to lock up TB!
CW   messing with these, it *appears* using Tabs it will try and select
CW   more than one tab at a time, and also seems to get its knickers in a
CW   twist balancing Tabs and View Modes and deciding which to use.

 The one thing I learned early on, was to set Global View Mode to No View 
 Mode
 and leave it there. I see no purpose for it and if you set it to anything but
 No View Mode it just takes over everything.



31 October 2013


  I am really at the end of my tether now, since playing with the
  fickle View Modes and Tabs I see a huge number of folders have
  changed their Unread / Read properties to showing a huge quantity
  as UNREAD. As far as I can see there's no going back over such a
  change. Despite the odd anomalies with the last of the V 4.* Bat!
  versions, nothing like this has ever occurred before. Paying for an
  upgrade to the latest V5.* has not been a pleasant experience. All I
  wanted was ALL folders to be set with a View Mode showing all
  messages threaded in reverse date order, and the new (to me) Tabs
  showing either : All / Today / Yesterday / This Week / or Unread.

  EXTREMELY unimpressed!

  That aside, many thanks for your frank advice :)



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Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-10-31 Thread Rick


 Hello Chris,
   A reminder of what Chris Wilson typed on:
   Thursday, October 31, 2013 at 13:12:53 GMT +

CW Thanks Stuart, the more I look at View Modes, and tabs the more
CW   confused I get. The whole thing needs a rethink, there are far too
CW   many means of accessing the menus for these, and seemingly no rhyme
CW   nor reason in what overrides what. I have used The Bat! for very
CW   many years, and generally it's superb, but View Modes, Global View
CW   Modes, Folder View Modes and now Tabs. What a hodge podge of
CW   disparate menus, it needs sorting! I have now managed to lock up TB!
CW   messing with these, it *appears* using Tabs it will try and select
CW   more than one tab at a time, and also seems to get its knickers in a
CW   twist balancing Tabs and View Modes and deciding which to use.

 The one thing I learned early on, was to set Global View Mode to No View 
 Mode
 and leave it there. I see no purpose for it and if you set it to anything but
 No View Mode it just takes over everything.

Same here. I create my own and use them where appropriate



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Re: 4.2.44.2 folder view modes issue

2013-10-10 Thread Chris Wilson
On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 07:37:45 -0400, you wrote:

10/9/2013  7:32 AM

Hi Chris,

On 10/9/2013 Chris Wilson wrote:

CW Is  this  backu  sytsem  known  to be flaky, and I better
CW copying the whole of the directory structure each night? Thanks.

Yes.. I have been using TB for 20 years and this is one of the lessons
learned. I use SecondCopy to do this automatically every 2 hours. The
other lesson learned is to not let TB do the encryption of the files.
Use TruCrypt to create an encrypted partition and store the TB files
there. Makes life alot more peaceful!



Thanks for treply, I will for sure use a different back up method.
Seeing as you are also a very long time user I wonder if you ever see
TB! crash and just close instantly on a certain rogue e-mail when
downloading off the server? I see this once a week or so and have to
ry and isolate it on the server. usually when ALL other mails are
downloaded the rogue one will download without an issue. I can see
nothing odd in the headers or they type of mail or mailer. Usually
they are addressed to me direct and for filtering into my peronal mail
folder. It can be a pain dealing with these. Deleting and recreating
the filter didn't help, nor did subtly changing its form. Thanks
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Re[2]: 4.2.44.2 folder view modes issue

2013-10-10 Thread Paul Van Noord
10/10/2013  7:00 AM

Hi Chris,

On 10/10/2013 Chris Wilson wrote:

CW On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 07:37:45 -0400, you wrote:


CW Seeing as you are also a very long time user I wonder if you ever see
CW TB! crash and just close instantly on a certain rogue e-mail when
CW downloading off the server? I see this once a week or so and have to
CW ry and isolate it on the server. usually when ALL other mails are
CW downloaded the rogue one will download without an issue. I can see
CW nothing odd in the headers or they type of mail or mailer. Usually
CW they are addressed to me direct and for filtering into my peronal mail
CW folder. It can be a pain dealing with these. Deleting and recreating
CW the filter didn't help, nor did subtly changing its form. Thanks
CW again!

Does it download OK if you remove the filter?

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Re: Re[2]: 4.2.44.2 folder view modes issue

2013-10-10 Thread Chris Wilson
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 07:06:00 -0400, you wrote:

10/10/2013  7:00 AM

Hi Chris,

On 10/10/2013 Chris Wilson wrote:

CW On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 07:37:45 -0400, you wrote:


CW Seeing as you are also a very long time user I wonder if you ever see
CW TB! crash and just close instantly on a certain rogue e-mail when
CW downloading off the server? I see this once a week or so and have to
CW ry and isolate it on the server. usually when ALL other mails are
CW downloaded the rogue one will download without an issue. I can see
CW nothing odd in the headers or they type of mail or mailer. Usually
CW they are addressed to me direct and for filtering into my peronal mail
CW folder. It can be a pain dealing with these. Deleting and recreating
CW the filter didn't help, nor did subtly changing its form. Thanks
CW again!

Does it download OK if you remove the filter?



Good point, I will try that!! Thanks. Having other issues since
fitting a new drive and transferring the database manually, so I will
start another thread, using Agent now as a stop gap as I am mega busy
and daren't risk a total e-mail outage :( Cheers


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4.2.44.2 folder view modes issue

2013-10-09 Thread Chris Wilson


  09/10/2013 09:44

I  had  a  hard  drive  failure and had to try and re install The Bat!
4.2.44.2 from a daily back up. This failed part through with an unable
to read file error...

Luckily TB! database was on a D: drive so i did a fresh install of TB!
and tried copying the rest across. It's 90% working fine now, but when
I change folder view modes for and individual folder, either by Folder
-  Folder  View  Mode  _  whatever  view mode required  or by folder
properties  it  does not always take. Sometimes toggling the All and
Unread  lower  left  flags  in  the  message list pane does the trick,
sometimes  it  doesn't.  Could  it  be  a corrupt file? Where does TB!
4.2.44.2  store  these settings? Any help appreciated. this is not the
first  time  a  read  error  has occurred trying to restore form a TB!
generated  backup  file.  The file was about 3gig in size, but my file
system  under  my  Windows XP Pro SP3 system handles bigger files than
that  fine.  Is  this  backu  sytsem  known  to be flaky, and I better
copying the whole of the directory structure each night? Thanks.

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Re: 4.2.44.2 folder view modes issue

2013-10-09 Thread Paul Van Noord
10/9/2013  7:32 AM

Hi Chris,

On 10/9/2013 Chris Wilson wrote:

CW Is  this  backu  sytsem  known  to be flaky, and I better
CW copying the whole of the directory structure each night? Thanks.

Yes.. I have been using TB for 20 years and this is one of the lessons
learned. I use SecondCopy to do this automatically every 2 hours. The
other lesson learned is to not let TB do the encryption of the files.
Use TruCrypt to create an encrypted partition and store the TB files
there. Makes life alot more peaceful!

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View modes

2010-02-17 Thread Robert Bull
Are view modes folder-specific?  I ask because I keep missing e-mails
because they're buried deep in threads that have scrolled off screen.
So I want the default in personal e-mail folders to be by date,
unthreaded.  Conversely, of course, it makes better sense to view
mailing lists by thread.  Every time I change view mode TB! asks me
about keeping it when I exit, but I don't want to set a new global
view mode by accident.  OK, I know there are hotkeys to quickly change
mode, but I'd just like to set defaults.

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Re: View modes

2010-02-17 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Robert Bull« · 2010-02-17 · 22:26 h (CET)]

Moin, Robert!

 Every time I change view mode TB! asks me about keeping it when I
 exit, but I don't want to set a new global view mode by accident.

Try Options|Preferences…|Message List|View Modes:

→ When View Mode was changed → [x] Save

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Re: View modes

2010-02-17 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Robert,
  A reminder of what Robert Bull typed on:
  Wednesday, February 17, 2010 at 21:26:41 GMT +

RB Are view modes folder-specific? 

Yes. You can set up different view modes and then assign them to your folders 
as 
you see fit. See Options/Preferences/Message List/View Modes . Create a new 
view 
mode and save it. For example I have one view mode for Incoming mail, one for 
Sent mail and one for mailing lists. Once you have saved the view modes, you 
can Right-click on a folder and select the Folder View mode you want to assign.
It is important to note that you need to set View/Global View Mode to None, or 
it will over-ride all view modes.

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Re: view modes

2008-02-13 Thread Terry Munson

Hello Roelof,

Thanks. I wasn't planning on deleting the file.

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Re: view modes

2008-02-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Terry,

On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 11:16:38 -0600GMT (9-2-2008, 18:16 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

TGM Does anyone know what file view modes are saved in?

My guess would be the account.cdb file in the mail directory
(config.edb for otfe) and I would advise against deleting that file
because of all the other that might be included.

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view modes

2008-02-09 Thread Terry Munson

Hi

Does anyone know what file view modes are saved in?

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Re: View modes - I am losing hair, sleep and patience...

2006-12-20 Thread Marten Gallagher
 Hello Marten,
 Tuesday, December 19, 2006, 4:01:56 PM, you wrote:

MG This is what I want to do:

MG I want to design a view mode that will apply to 120 of 123 folders.

MG Then I want 2 folders to have a slightly different layout.

 First  step  is  to make sure that View/Global View Mode is set to No
 View  Mode. Once this is done you should be able to create view modes
 as you see fit.

Thank you - that seems to have done it - but it seems counter-intuitive to
me...

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View modes - I am losing hair, sleep and patience...

2006-12-19 Thread Marten Gallagher
This is what I want to do:

I want to design a view mode that will apply to 120 of 123 folders.

Then I want 2 folders to have a slightly different layout.

Then I want a virtual folder to have a completely different layout with
additional columns.

Could someone tell me where to start?

I have resorted to deleting all the standard available folders and leving
myself with a generic view mode suitable for the 120 folders.

But if I go to the Virtual Folder and change it manually then save it with a
different name that folder immediately (on saving) reverts back to the
generic view mode.

From past experience I guess I have to set something in several different
places and using several different arcane menus but I have tried every
combination I can think of.

Roelof!!! Are you there? Hel? Ik heb nu uw hulp nodig (that's what
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Re: View modes - I am losing hair, sleep and patience...

2006-12-19 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Marten,
Tuesday, December 19, 2006, 4:01:56 PM, you wrote:

MG This is what I want to do:

MG I want to design a view mode that will apply to 120 of 123 folders.

MG Then I want 2 folders to have a slightly different layout.

First  step  is  to make sure that View/Global View Mode is set to No
View  Mode. Once this is done you should be able to create view modes
as you see fit.

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Re: Associating shortcuts to view modes

2006-10-12 Thread Robin Anson
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 at 00:54:23 +0200, Claude wrote:
 Few TB versions ago it was possible as far as I remember to associate
 shortcuts to view modes,and if my memory serves me well, there were
 associated with shortcuts such as alt+shift+1, alt+shift+2 etc.
 Currently it is not possible to quickly switch from view mode to view
 mode with a single keystroke.

Well on my copy of TB I still use those shortcuts. I don't recall
ever having to recreate them, so I assumed they were either default
settings in v3.85, or they were inherited from my earlier version.

You seem to be running a beta version - is it a problem with that?

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Associating shortcuts to view modes

2006-10-11 Thread Claude Renaud
  Hi all,


Few TB versions ago it was possible as far as I remember to associate
shortcuts to view modes,and if my memory serves me well, there were
associated with shortcuts such as alt+shift+1, alt+shift+2 etc.
Currently it is not possible to quickly switch from view mode to view
mode with a single keystroke.
Is it possible to regain this function or should it be added as a future
   feature for 
TB ?


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Re: Associating shortcuts to view modes

2006-10-11 Thread Ben Allen
Howdy Claude,

Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 11:54:23 PM, Claude wrotened:

Claude Few TB versions ago it was possible as far as I remember to associate
Claude shortcuts to view modes,and if my memory serves me well, there were
Claude associated with shortcuts such as alt+shift+1, alt+shift+2 etc.
Claude Currently it is not possible to quickly switch from view mode to view
Claude mode with a single keystroke.
Claude Is it possible to regain this function or should it be added as a future
Claude   feature 
for TB ?

There  are two options I think. I think you can set shortcuts for view
modes  in  viewtoolbarscustomiseshortcutsviewGlobal  view mode or
you can change the method of threading a message by the following

· None - no threading, all messages are shown individually. Alt + 0

·  References  -  uses  two header fields, In-Reply-To and References,
which both contain unique Message ID's. Alt + 1

· Subject - threads are made up of messages with the same subject line
(minus the Re: for replies). Alt + 2

· Sender - threads by the name/address in the From header. Alt + 3

· Recipient - threads by the name/address in the To header. Alt + 4

But i'm not sure thats what you meant. But thats all I know.





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Re[2]: Folder specific view modes

2006-08-21 Thread rich gregory
rg In ver 2.12 is there a way to set this or that folder to use a
rg different view mode than the rest of the folders? I see in the
rg folder properties general tab an unavailable option to Edit view
rg mode. Why is this unavailable?

PB While you wait for more competent replies, you set each folder to
PB no view mode. Think this stops you settings from being overwritten
PB by any standard setting.



Ah! The view mode options do not alter the real MODE of the view, only
the columnar options.

I was hoping that folder specific view modes would allow me to say
folderA is HTML views and folderB is plain text view mode.

Thx
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Re: Folder specific view modes

2006-08-21 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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   ***^\ ._)~~
 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Mon, 21 Aug 2006,
   @  @  at 09:35:20 -0400, when rich gregory wrote:

rg In ver 2.12 is there a way to set this or that folder to use a
rg different view mode than the rest of the folders? I see in the
rg folder properties general tab an unavailable option to Edit view
rg mode. Why is this unavailable?

PB While you wait for more competent replies, you set each folder to
PB no view mode. Think this stops you settings from being overwritten
PB by any standard setting.

 Ah! The view mode options do not alter the real MODE of the view, only
 the columnar options.

 I was hoping that folder specific view modes would allow me to say
 folderA is HTML views and folderB is plain text view mode.

Might be, or might not be again, that it can be solved somehow by some
macro/regex/[q]uick ( [d]irty) [t]emplate self-triggered within The
Wanted View Mode which would trigger the command otherwise triggered
(remember the Trigger from Only Fools And Horses?) manually (pardon my
expression) when the Ctrl+Alt+Tab is used to switch to the HTML/plain
text view.

It sounds a bit complicated (convoluted?) but what is TBat for and why
we all love it despite its random self-triggering between its Mr Jackill
and Mr(Ms?) Beta nature? (:

A beautiful fresh rain here folks. Enjoy my enjoyment.

I hope you are all well, to a reasonable and deserved extent, and that
you are able to (p)reserve some quality time for pork and to cogitate,
or ruminate, or simply mull and chew over origin and intention of
universe, for without it the water never would...have been wet, which is
most fascinating and above all significant, since a dry universe is a
sadness that grinds and whines.

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Re[2]: Folder specific view modes

2006-08-21 Thread rich gregory
 The view mode options do not alter the real MODE of the view, only
 the columnar options.

 I was hoping that folder specific view modes would allow me to say
 folderA is HTML views and folderB is plain text view mode.



MM Might be, or might not be again, that it can be solved somehow by
MM some macro/regex/[q]uick ( [d]irty) [t]emplate self-triggered
MM within The Wanted View Mode which would trigger the command
MM otherwise triggered (remember the Trigger from Only Fools And
MM Horses?) manually (pardon my expression) when the Ctrl+Alt+Tab is
MM used to switch to the HTML/plain text view. It sounds a bit
MM complicated (convoluted?)

AH! (Another thing learned today about TB!)

Ctrl+Alt+Tab will swap the view mode manually. That does indeed help me!
But, you are right, there may be a code jockey who could template a way
to make each view folder specific as desired.


MM A beautiful fresh rain here folks. Enjoy my enjoyment. I hope you
MM are all well, to a reasonable and deserved extent, and that you are
MM able to (p)reserve some quality time for pork and to cogitate, or
MM ruminate, or simply mull and chew over origin and intention of
MM universe, for without it the water never would...have been wet,
MM which is most fascinating and above all significant, since a dry
MM universe is a sadness that grinds and whines.

I very much hope you enjoy your enjoyment. I would enjoy that. We should
all be so lucky!

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Re: Folder specific view modes

2006-08-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello rich,

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:10:52 -0400 GMT (18/08/2006, 23:10 +0700 GMT),
rich gregory wrote:

rg I was hoping that folder specific view modes would allow me to say
rg folderA is HTML views and folderB is plain text view mode.

No, I don't think that's possible. But it's a good item for the wish
list!

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Re: Folder specific view modes

2006-08-19 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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 On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:10:52 -0400 GMT (18/08/2006, 23:10 +0700 GMT),
 rich gregory wrote:

rg I was hoping that folder specific view modes would allow me to say
rg folderA is HTML views and folderB is plain text view mode.

 No, I don't think that's possible. But it's a good item for the wish
 list!

Sure. Like the one for the Draft folder. (-:

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Re[2]: Folder specific view modes

2006-08-18 Thread rich gregory
rg In ver 2.12 is there a way to set this or that folder to use a different
rg view mode than the rest of the folders?
rg I see in the folder properties general tab an unavailable option to
rg Edit view mode. Why is this unavailable?

PB While you wait for more competent replies, you set each folder to no
PB view mode.
PB Think this stops you settings from being overwritten by any standard
PB setting.


Ah! The view mode options do not alter the real MODE of the view, only
the columnar options.

I was hoping that folder specific view modes would allow me to say
folderA is HTML views and folderB is plain text view mode.

Thx
RG





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Folder specific view modes

2006-08-17 Thread rich gregory
Hello Bat-Folk!

In ver 2.12 is there a way to set this or that folder to use a different
view mode than the rest of the folders?

I see in the folder properties general tab an unavailable option to
Edit view mode. Why is this unavailable?

Thx all
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Re: Folder specific view modes

2006-08-17 Thread Paul Berger
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Friday, August 18, 2006, 6:35:04 AM, you wrote:

rg Hello Bat-Folk!

rg In ver 2.12 is there a way to set this or that folder to use a different
rg view mode than the rest of the folders?

rg I see in the folder properties general tab an unavailable option to
rg Edit view mode. Why is this unavailable?

rg Thx all
rg RG





While you wait for more competent replies, you set each folder to no
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Think this stops you settings from being overwritten by any standard
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Re: Folder specific view modes

2006-08-17 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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 In ver 2.12 is there a way to set this or that folder to use a
 different view mode than the rest of the folders?

There is, verily, and the consort/escort/bulldog of a such missive is a
bliss of 6.569 karats.

 I see in the folder properties general tab an unavailable option to
 Edit view mode. Why is this unavailable?

Nobody knows that, for this world is full of magic and in a good part
charmed. Try this though to dispel the spell...

Right-click on the particular/loved/concrete(or rubber) folder, then
Folder View Mode, and then choose what you have at disposal in the
dro(o)p down menu.

If you have there only the Generic View Mode then go to Options |
Preferences | New, and make some new View Mode according to your wish,
name it, say, Fancy View Mode 01 and click [OK].

Then right-click on the particular/loved/concrete(or rubber) folder
again, then Folder View Mode, and then choose Fancy View Mode 01.


If even that doesn't work, then we would have to find six virgin gals
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months, and of which one has to be crosseyed too), one wing of a bat,
sixteen drops of urine of one-eyed grizzly and to try something else one
night of a full moon.

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Re[2]: View modes are not sticking

2006-08-05 Thread Marten Gallagher
 Make  sure  that under View/Global View Mode you have No View Mode. If
 you  have  any  other View Mode selected that will be what is used for
 all accounts.

Oh for goodness sake - it was that easy!

At last they are behaving - as far as usability goes TB's interface leaves
much to be desired I think.

What with font settings all over the place, view modes all over the place...

Thanks for the insight.

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View modes are not sticking

2006-08-04 Thread Marten Gallagher
Am I the only one with a roblem getting View Modes to stick?

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Re: View modes are not sticking

2006-08-04 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Marten,

On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:27:33 +0100GMT (4-8-2006, 17:27 , where I live),
you wrote:

MG Am I the only one with a roblem getting View Modes to stick?

The best way to get them to stick is setting them in the properties
menu of the folder.

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Re[2]: View modes are not sticking

2006-08-04 Thread Marten Gallagher
 Hi Marten,

 In your message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent on
 Friday, August 4, 2006, 4:27:33 PM, you wrote:

MG Am I the only one with a roblem getting View Modes to
MG stick?

 No trouble here, so far.

 What issues are you seeing and how are you setting/changing your view modes?

I have 'save' as view mode setting in Preferences.

I go to View  Global View Mode  Manage View Modes

I select the general view mode for most of my accounts (saved as Default)
and select all accounts in USe By.

I then select the threaded view mode and tick USe By for The Bat and CSS
Discuss.

I the select my ordered by sujbject for Junk and Trash

But when I go back in many of the 'General accoun t folders are in threaded
mode and sometimes it seems TB and CSS are in Default mode.

I have tried to see if there is a pattern byut I cannot see what it is.

 In the Preferences, what do you have selected for the view modes option
 - mine is set to ask before applying/saving changes.





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Re[2]: View modes are not sticking

2006-08-04 Thread Marten Gallagher
 Hallo Marten,

 On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:27:33 +0100GMT (4-8-2006, 17:27 , where I live),
 you wrote:

MG Am I the only one with a roblem getting View Modes to stick?

 The best way to get them to stick is setting them in the properties
 menu of the folder.

I have tried that but it doesn't seem to stick there either.

I am going to have to start from scratch and see if I can see any
consistency in what seems to be a misbehaviour.

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Re: View modes are not sticking

2006-08-04 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Marten,
Friday, August 4, 2006, 10:27:33 AM, you wrote:

 Am I the only one with a roblem getting View Modes to stick?

Make  sure  that under View/Global View Mode you have No View Mode. If
you  have  any  other View Mode selected that will be what is used for
all accounts.

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View modes

2005-05-16 Thread Nick Dutton
Hello,

My view modes don't seem to work - at all.  TB 3.5 has picked them up
from my old 3.0.1.33 but:

- Right-clicking on different view modes  in the header has no effect

- If I make changes from the setup columns option it always selects
  the same view mode, are changes are ignored anyway

- Manage view modes has no effect

Is this just me?

Next step is a clean install I suppose, but how would I make sure that
my view modes are ignored?

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Re: View modes

2005-05-16 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Nick,
Monday, May 16, 2005, 6:28:35 AM, you wrote:

ND My view modes don't seem to work - at all.  TB 3.5 has picked them up
ND from my old 3.0.1.33 but:

ND - Right-clicking on different view modes  in the header has no effect

ND - If I make changes from the setup columns option it always selects
ND   the same view mode, are changes are ignored anyway

ND - Manage view modes has no effect

ND Is this just me?

ND Next step is a clean install I suppose, but how would I make sure that
ND my view modes are ignored?

Make  sure  the  View/Global  Viewmode/No Viewmode is  checked.  If you have
anything else selected it overrides everything else.



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Do you know which folders are using each of your view modes?

2005-05-15 Thread MAU
Hello all,

If not, please support https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2584

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Warning about saving changes to view modes

2005-05-15 Thread MAU
Hello all,

Please see https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4660 and support it if
you agree.

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Re: View Modes

2005-03-07 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Sunday 6 March 2005 at 2:22:27 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 even the Menu Navigator doesn't help me.

What/where is the menu navigator? I can't find the term in the
help file and the search tool on TBUDP brings up several pages
none of which actually contain the search term.

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Re: View Modes

2005-03-07 Thread Mica Mijatovic
   ***^\ ._)~~
 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Mon, 7 Mar 2005, 
   @  @  at 20:59:04 +, when MFPA wrote:

 even the Menu Navigator doesn't help me.

 What/where is the menu navigator? I can't find the term in the
 help file and the search tool on TBUDP brings up several pages
 none of which actually contain the search term.

On the left of the TB's title bar you have a tiny button near to
minimize one, with a question mark on it. Push it (by mammalizing it).
There is also a kbd shortcut but I can't recall, since it doesn't work
under my 98SE, while in XP does. Perhaps Alt+F12.

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Re: View Modes

2005-03-07 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Mica,

On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MM On the left of the TB's title bar you have a tiny button near to
MM minimize one,

Not here. all I have to the left is The Bat icon and The Bat! words.

MM with a question mark on it.

To the right are the usual Minimise restore and Close but never
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Re: View Modes

2005-03-07 Thread Chris

MFPA @ 2005-Mar-7 3:59:04 PM
View Modes mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 even the Menu Navigator doesn't help me.

 What/where is the menu navigator? I can't find the term in the help
 file and the search tool on TBUDP brings up several pages none of
 which actually contain the search term.

If it is not there, go to Options/Preferences and check Display
MenuNavigator...


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Re: View Modes

2005-03-07 Thread Chris

Richard Wakeford @ 2005-Mar-7 5:25:49 PM
View Modes mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On the left of the TB's title bar you have a tiny button near to
 minimize one,

 Not here. all I have to the left is The Bat icon and The Bat! words.

Please see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: View Modes

2005-03-07 Thread MFPA
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Hi

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mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mica Mijatovic wrote:


 On the left of the TB's title bar you have a tiny button near to
 minimize one, with a question mark on it.

Thanks. I had always thought that to be a what's this
context-sensitive help button, and therefore ignored it.

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Re: View Modes

2005-03-07 Thread Mica Mijatovic
   ***^\ ._)~~
 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Mon, 7 Mar 2005, 
   @  @  at 23:25:49 +0100, when Richard Wakeford wrote:

 Hello Mica,

 On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 you wrote in
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MM On the left of the TB's title bar you have a tiny button near to
MM minimize one,

 Not here. all I have to the left is The Bat icon and The Bat! words.

Argh...I'm really silly these days with these typos -- on the *right*!

I am sending tiny attachment with screen shot of this area: it will
reach TBOT.

MM with a question mark on it.

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Re: View Modes

2005-03-07 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Peter,

On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

PO See Options | Preferences | General | Display MenuNavigator ...

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Re: View Modes

2005-03-07 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Chris,

On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Not here. all I have to the left is The Bat icon and The Bat! words.

C Please see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Would have done if it had been posted at the time! ;-)

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View Modes

2005-03-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello TBUDL,

Yesterday I edited my View Mode Lists, but today I decided I don't
like it and want to change it back. For the heck, I cannot find how to
edit View Modes, the menu item which I used yesterday is AWOL. Don't
ask me where it was yesterday, and even the Menu Navigator doesn't
help me. I can now only choose View Modes that have been set up
already.

As they say: I didn't change anything! Same old TB v3.0.2.10
under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2.

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Re: View Modes

2005-03-06 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

 For the heck, I cannot find how to edit View Modes,

Options/Preferences/Messages/view Modes.

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Re: View Modes

2005-03-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 16:08:30 +0100 GMT (06/03/2005, 22:08 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

 For the heck, I cannot find how to edit View Modes,

M Options/Preferences/Messages/view Modes.

Thanks, that was it.

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View modes

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
I've tried to use different view modes for different folders, without
success. In Options - Preferences - View Mode I have ticked the
folders I want to apply a certain mode to (in Use by), AND I have
marked it in each folder under Folder - Folder View Mode, but every
time ALL my folders change their view mode. Thus I can only have one
view mode for all folders. This can't be right, so what am I doing
wrong?


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Re: View modes

2004-07-06 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Britt,
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 7:53:58 AM, you wrote:

BH I've tried to use different view modes for different folders, without
BH success. In Options - Preferences - View Mode I have ticked the
BH folders I want to apply a certain mode to (in Use by), AND I have
BH marked it in each folder under Folder - Folder View Mode, but every
BH time ALL my folders change their view mode. Thus I can only have one
BH view mode for all folders. This can't be right, so what am I doing
BH wrong?
The first thing you need to do is set View - Global View Mode to (No
View Mode) Then you can set different modes to each folder.

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Re: View modes

2004-07-06 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Britt,

On 6 Jul 2004 at 14:53:58 +0200 GMT [14:53 CEST] you wrote:

BH I've tried to use different view modes for different folders, without
BH success. In Options - Preferences - View Mode I have ticked the
BH folders I want to apply a certain mode to (in Use by), AND I have
BH marked it in each folder under Folder - Folder View Mode, but every
BH time ALL my folders change their view mode. Thus I can only have one
BH view mode for all folders. This can't be right, so what am I doing
BH wrong?

Set View-Global View Mode to No Viewmode

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Re: View modes - thanks!

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
Hello Stuart and Andre,

 The first thing you need to do is set View - Global View Mode to (No
 View Mode) Then you can set different modes to each folder.

Thank you both so much for this info!!


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Re: View Modes

2004-04-29 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Thursday, April 29, 2004, Ian A. White wrote:

 What has happened to View Modes?

 I have installed 2.10.3 and cannot find the option to set the various
 folders to the view modes I had.

 Also the Menu navigator is no longer there.

You are talking about 2.10, but You are using 2.01.3.

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Re: View Modes

2004-04-29 Thread MAU
Hello Ian,

 What has happened to View Modes?
 
 I have installed 2.10.3 and cannot find the option to set the various
 folders to the view modes I had.

No problem here. They are still available from Options / Preferences /
Messages / View Modes or by right clicking on any folder and selecting
Folder view mode from the context menu.

 Also the Menu navigator is no longer there.

Can't find it either. But I don't remember where it was because I never
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Re: View Modes

2004-04-29 Thread Chris

MAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 29-Apr-2004 7:34:04 PM
View Modes mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Can't find [the Menu Navigator] either.
  Option - Preferences - General - Display menu navigator in ...

 But I don't remember where it was because I never used it.
I didn't either. The icon wasn't working either...

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Re: view modes

2004-04-24 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Anselm,

On 22 Apr 2004 at 21:49:43 +0200 GMT [21:49 CEST] you wrote:

AB Hi André,

*sigh* I know you only meant to do it right, but actually my name is
Andre without any accent. I'm not french at all! ;)

 Have you set View-Global View Mode to (No View Mode)?

AB Thanks a bunch, that did the trick!

You're welcome!

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Re: view modes

2004-04-24 Thread Anselm Buehling


 *sigh* I know you only meant to do it right, but actually my name is
 Andre without any accent.

Sorry for that and thanks again, Andre!

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view modes

2004-04-22 Thread Anselm Buehling

Hi,

Here's the next query about version 2.10 - seems the new features
don't come easily to me...

Well, I tried to set up two different view modes - one for my business
mail, one for mailing lists (the latter one with threaded view). Saved
them with different names and specified for which folders each one
applies. Unfortunately, they don't work as I want them to. Either ALL
folders are in threaded view, or none is. Changing the view mode for a
folder by context menu or short cut seems to have effect. When I
select a folder and change the view using the View  View threads by
command, it is changed - but, again, for ALL folders, not only for the
selected one.

Again, what am I doing wrong? Everything was fine before I started to
play with view modes, but now I'm not able to set different viewing
options for different folders anymore...

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Re: view modes

2004-04-22 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Anselm,

On 22 Apr 2004 at 18:17:44 +0200 GMT [18:17 CEST] you wrote:

AB Again, what am I doing wrong? Everything was fine before I started to
AB play with view modes, but now I'm not able to set different viewing
AB options for different folders anymore...

Have you set View-Global View Mode to (No View Mode)?

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Re: view modes

2004-04-22 Thread Anselm Buehling


Hi André,

 Have you set View-Global View Mode to (No View Mode)?

Thanks a bunch, that did the trick!

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Re: View modes - Help me before I shoot someone!

2004-03-12 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Costas,

Friday, March 12, 2004, 9:48:55 AM, you wrote:
Costas View Modes is a torture instrument. I can survive with it for
Costas a while, but if I make a mistake and click on a column to sort
Costas the folder in a different way, then I have to play with the
Costas settings for a long time before I finally get things back in
Costas order. Is there a definitive guide on how to manage View Modes
Costas or do I really need to be a nuclear physicist to understand
Costas how to use this feature (I almost said torture instrument)?

You could do what I do. I only have three modes

1. Lists (Like tbudl)
2. Discussions (non lists but threaded)
3. Normal (my inbox)

I do on occasion sort a folder a different way, but it's usually
because I'm click happy and mistakenly clicked on the header bar.

I just click on the header bar to sort back the way it was.



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Re: View Modes choices Not same

2004-02-27 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Stefan,

On 27 Feb 2004 at 03:01:08 +0200 GMT [02:01 CET] you wrote:

M If I uncheck a box I would expect the corresponding folder to be set to
M (no view mode). Why not?

ST No view mode means using some column settings anyway. Which one
ST should be used?  Is it account-wide, folder-specific or parent
ST folder's?

How about the same as when I explicitly select 'no view mode' from one
of the other places?

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Re: View Modes choices Not same

2004-02-27 Thread Allie Martin
Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

M If I uncheck a box I would expect the corresponding folder to be set to
M (no view mode). Why not?
No view mode means using some column settings anyway. Which one
should be used?  Is it account-wide, folder-specific or parent
folder's?
If you uncheck that box, then the folder should revert to 'Folder 
specific settings' since it would not have been assigned a view mode.

The folder's default should be 'the folder specific settings', IOW's, no 
view mode has been assigned.

Another alternative would be the generic view mode which would act sort 
of as a default mode that the user would like a folder to have unless he 
specifically makes the folder use its own specific settings or a 
particular view mode.

I do agree with the others though, that if I hit the 'Used by', I should 
see the list with those folders already using the particular view mode 
already selected.

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Re: View Modes choices Not same

2004-02-27 Thread MAU
Hello Stefan,

Yesterday, you and I wrote:

 No view mode means using some column settings anyway. Which one
 should be used?  Is it account-wide, folder-specific or parent
 folder's?
 
 Right, now I get you. H, I'll have to think about it and talk with
 my pillow tonight, if I ever get to bed ;-)

I had a not too long talk with my pillow last night (I fell asleep) and
she gave me a couple of suggestions for you ;-)

What do you do when a view mode is deleted? Right, the folders that were
using it are set to (No View Mode). However, since the Generic Mode can
be set/defined by the user and it is a mode that cannot be deleted, I
would uses this as a default to revert to.

Now, what would I do (well, my pillow ;) with the Use by... dialog?

1.- Display on the Title bar the name of the View Mode that was selected
prior to clicking the Use by... button. One can make mistakes when
selecting the view mode :)

2.- Make this a Use/Used by (or however you want to call it) dialog. The
thing is that if it is opened for a view mode that is already being used
by some folders, they should appear as ticked with the check mark in the
display of the folder tree and the rest of folders with a blank box.

3.- If you remove the checkmark from one or more of the folders, they
should revert (be set to) Generic mode.

4.- But, what happens if you add a few folders (tick the empty box) to
use this view mode and then change your mind, or notice you have ticked
one you didn't really want to? You remove the check mark, right. But
should this folder now revert to the view mode it was using or to
Generic. I believe it should stay with the previous mode, whatever it
was.

5.- But if I have added a few check marks and after scrolling up and
down I remove a couple of them, how do I know what view mode will be
applied to these two folders? Previous (if it was different to the one
we are dealing with when I opened the Used by dialog) or Generic?

Simple, use three possible states: Blank, Check mark and X.

If I open the dialog for view mode A and Folder1 is checked, then that
folder can only toggle from Checked to Xed and from Xed to Checked. But,
if Folder2 is Blank, this can only toggle from Blank to Checked and from
Checked to Blank.

Then, when I click OK, the actions will be:

Box is Blank - Do nothing to the folder and it will use the view mode it was
   using.

Box is Checked - Set folder to use View mode A (the one we are dealing with)

Box is Xed - Set folder to use Generic mode.

I don't how and where you hold your folder tree structure, or if you build one
when the Used by... dialog is opened, but the above can be easily
implemented with a four column table:
  Folder
  View Mode
  Original state
  Changes

Original state is what is displayed when the dialog is opened and can
only be Blank or Checked and is also used to see if toggling can
(should) be Blank/Checked or Checked/Xed.

Changes will reflect that changes, and is the column used to take the
actions when clicking OK:

If Changes is Blank, do nothing and check next folder.
If Changes if Checked, set folder to use view mode A.
If Changes is Xed, set folder to use Generic view mode.

And finally, to easily remind the user what is going to happen if he
clicks OK, the three possible states (ICONS for) should be displayed on
the dialog itself, with a short explanatory text, perhaps right below
the Unselect all button.

Hope I have been able to explain what my pillow told me last night ;-)

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Re: View Modes choices Not same

2004-02-26 Thread MAU
Hello Greg,

 View Modes in Option | Preferences | Messages | VM | select VM | click
 Used by ... are not the same as when in Main window Folder Properties
 | column settings | Use view mode VMname or when in Main window and
 right mouse click folder | Folder view mode | selected VM.

Used by ...? My button says Use by 

See my mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Is that what you
mean?

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Re: View Modes choices Not same

2004-02-26 Thread Greg Strong
Hello MAU,

Thursday, February 26, 2004, 4:47:56 AM, MAU wrote:

M Is that what you
M mean?


NO.

If you have global view modes off and are using individual view modes
for folders which have been set from the main window when you go into
Options | Preferences | Messages | View Modes | select VM (one which you
are using on a folder) | click Use by   Now look at the folder
where you know you are using that particular view mode and you will see
it is NOT selected.

BUG?

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Re: View Modes choices Not same

2004-02-26 Thread MAU
Hello Greg,

 Now look at the folder where you know you are using that particular
 view mode and you will see it is NOT selected.

Maybe I didn't explain it clearly enough, but that is exactly what I
mean when I say that Use by ... should also and actually be UseD
(notice the D) by  Use by =/= Used by.

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Re: View Modes choices Not same

2004-02-26 Thread MAU
Hello MAU,

 View Mode you can open the Use by.. dialog to select the folder that

Present and past tenses make a difference, and so do singular and plural
:)

The quoted line should read folderS, because you can select more than
just one :-)


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Re[2]: View Modes choices Not same

2004-02-26 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Greg,

Thursday, February 26, 2004, 5:03:20 PM, you wrote:

GS If you have global view modes off and are using individual view modes
GS for folders which have been set from the main window when you go into
GS Options | Preferences | Messages | View Modes | select VM (one which you
GS are using on a folder) | click Use by   Now look at the folder
GS where you know you are using that particular view mode and you will see
GS it is NOT selected.

It may be selected, but what if you uncheck a box? It's not quite
clear what to do...


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Re[2]: View Modes choices Not same

2004-02-26 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello MAU,

Friday, February 27, 2004, 2:52:31 AM, you wrote:

M If I uncheck a box I would expect the corresponding folder to be set to
M (no view mode). Why not?

No view mode means using some column settings anyway. Which one
should be used?  Is it account-wide, folder-specific or parent
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Re: View Modes choices Not same

2004-02-26 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Stefan,

Thursday, February 26, 2004, 6:19:39 PM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

GS If you have global view modes off and are using individual view modes
GS for folders which have been set from the main window when you go into
GS Options | Preferences | Messages | View Modes | select VM (one which you
GS are using on a folder) | click Use by   Now look at the folder
GS where you know you are using that particular view mode and you will see
GS it is NOT selected.

ST It may be selected, but what if you uncheck a box? It's not quite
ST clear what to do...

M If I uncheck a box I would expect the corresponding folder to be set to
M (no view mode). Why not?

ST No view mode means using some column settings anyway. Which one
ST should be used?  Is it account-wide, folder-specific or parent
ST folder's?

Ok I now see what you are saying. I still feel there is inconsistency
here. Shouldn't there be a default order here which should provide some
insight as to what No view mode should be used?

Don't get me wrong because I think View Modes are GREAT, however I do
feel it is this inconsistency which make them difficult and confusing to
learn.

How could you have a folder specific No view mode if you had a View
Mode previously selected?

So a proposed hierarchy could be to inherent the No view mode of the
parent, and if none for the parent to default to the account-wide No
view mode.

Which raises the question: Where are account-wide No view mode
defined?

Just thinking out loud, and excuse me if I'm all wet.

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Re: View Modes choices Not same

2004-02-26 Thread MAU
Hello Greg,

 I don't get to hung up on past tense and present tense. I thought you
 meant what was actually in the UI. Maybe I may have made a slight
 grammatically error, but my point is I think it is a BUG.

Well, as you know, English is not my mother language and I thought the
idea that Use by =/= Used by would be clearly understood.

No, I don't thing it is a bug, I think it is WAD. When you create a new
View Mode you can open the Use by.. dialog to select the folder that
will USE the just created view. However, when you open the dialog for an
already existing view, I agree with you, and that was my wish for an
additional feature, the dialog should show as selected (ticked) the
folders that are already using (view is being USED by) the selected
view.

 You should see folders selected for the view mode your looking at under
 the options | preferences that you have set from the main window.

Right, agree. And same thing when you right click on a folder and select
Copy column settings to BTW, for sake of coherency I think this
option should be called Copy view mode to..., or even better Assign
view mode to..., because it is what the option does. It is not just the
column settings (columns displayed and widths) that get copied.

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Re: View Modes choices Not same

2004-02-26 Thread Greg Strong
Hello MAU,

Thursday, February 26, 2004, 9:35:10 AM, MAU wrote:

 Now look at the folder where you know you are using that particular
 view mode and you will see it is NOT selected.

M Maybe I didn't explain it clearly enough, but that is exactly what I
M mean when I say that Use by ... should also and actually be UseD
M (notice the D) by  Use by =/= Used by.


Whatever.

I don't get to hung up on past tense and present tense. I thought you
meant what was actually in the UI. Maybe I may have made a slight
grammatically error, but my point is I think it is a BUG.

You should see folders selected for the view mode your looking at under
the options | preferences that you have set from the main window.

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View modes in 2.04.7: what the H happened?

2004-02-25 Thread jwayne
I just upgraded to 2.04.7 from CE. My view modes no longer work. I'm stuck in
my Subject Received mode and can't change to any other mode! Not from the
menu, not with the Shift-Alt hot keys, and regardless of folder.

Anybody know what gives?

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Re: View modes in 2.04.7: what the H happened?

2004-02-25 Thread Greg Strong
Hello jwayne,

Wednesday, February 25, 2004, 6:19:17 PM, jwayne wrote:

j I'm stuck in
j my Subject Received mode and can't change to any other mode!

In the main window what is selected under View | Global View Mode?

If it is something other than No View Mode, then you have a global
view selected across all folders. Change it to No View Mode and
individual folders will have independent VM settings.

Select individual folder VMs by the following:

1  right mouse click one of the column headers in the message list pane
   | select which VM you want in the 2nd grouping.

2  right mouse click the folder | folder view mode | select VM you want
   in 2nd grouping

3  right mouse click the folder | properties | column settings | select
   Use view mode VMname

I haven't check it out yet but you can set up individual settings for
a folder without having a VM name which will save the settings for that
folder.

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Re: Folder View Modes

2004-02-25 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 09:59:33 -0600, Greg Strong wrote:

| I am no expert on View Modes (VM), but I'll give it a shot.
| As I understand it you have 3 places where you can apply VM.

| 1  Main Window

| 2  View Folder FolderName of AcctName

| 3  Browse Ticker Messages

 I actually found out 2 more areas for view modes

 4  Message Finder

 5  Browse Deleted Messages

6 Browse Ticker Messages

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Re: Folder View Modes

2004-02-25 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Arjan,

Wednesday, February 25, 2004, 7:09:42 PM, Arjan de Groot wrote:

... snip

| 3  Browse Ticker Messages

... snip

AdG 6 Browse Ticker Messages

6 = 3

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View Modes choices Not same

2004-02-25 Thread Greg Strong
Hello TBUDL,

Should the view modes selected be the same without regard to how you
look at them?

View Modes in Option | Preferences | Messages | VM | select VM | click
Used by ... are not the same as when in Main window Folder Properties
| column settings | Use view mode VMname or when in Main window and
right mouse click folder | Folder view mode | selected VM.

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