Re: Moving from Windows 7 to Windows 8.1
Hello Susanne, On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:35:54 -0700GMTSusanne wrote: S Everything went okay, except my OS is listed rather oddly in my S signature. :) I use the following in my reply template ,- [ ] | The Bat! %THEBATVERSION(WITHBITS) on %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %- | %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION%- | %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION `- S I have one more question: how do I adjust the font of the message S subject etc. in the list? I can never find that particular setting. Go to Options-Preferences-Viewer/Editor-Profile Layout and choose the Generic Profile (it's in the upper right corner). The you can set a font face for any item. -- Regards, Feli:de-bb: The Bat! Version 6.8.0.3 (BETA) (64-bit) on Windows 7 6.17601 Service Pack 1 A... No Moderator! Lets chat about CAMPING @#$% .. NO CARRIER Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving from Windows 7 to Windows 8.1
Hi, thanks for your help with the move. Everything went okay, except my OS is listed rather oddly in my signature. :) I have one more question: how do I adjust the font of the message subject etc. in the list? I can never find that particular setting. Thanks in advance! -- Best regards, Susannemailto:sisk...@gmail.com Using The Bat! 4.2.6 OS: Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving from Windows 7 to Windows 8.1
Hi On Friday 17 April 2015 at 5:35:54 PM, in mid:1291278325.20150417093...@gmail.com, Susanne wrote: Hi, thanks for your help with the move. Everything went okay, except my OS is listed rather oddly in my signature. :) Yes, Windows 7 and Windows 8 are not actual version numbers, they are product names, just like Windows 95 and Windows XP. I have one more question: how do I adjust the font of the message subject etc. in the list? I can never find that particular setting. Something like Options | Preferences | Messages | Colour Groups and Font? -- Best regards MFPA mailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana. -- Groucho Marx Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems on Windows 7
On Wed, 2011-08-17, Jack wrote: - In XP, the icon for TB was in the system tray. Windows 7 doesn't see to have a way to place it there and places it in the task bar. Sometimes, and I can't isolate what causes it, the icon will move to what I suspect that the icon is in the show hidden icons area (arrow to the left of the system tray). Click on that arrow, choose Customize and find The Bat! entry. It is probably set to Show only notifications. Change it to show icon and notifications to make it appear in the system tray (now called Notification Area). -- Bill McQuillan bill.mcquil...@pobox.com Using The Bat! 5.0.12 on Windows 7 6.1 build 7601-Service Pack 1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems on Windows 7
RA On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 at 23:09:41 -0400,Jack wrote: I see though that my text was not formatted properly. I have the editor to go to a new line at 70 characters. It is doing it now as I type but when the message shows on the list, there's no limit. RA It sounds as though you are using the Windows editor, not the MicroEd editor. Thanks for the suggestion. It was set to the MicroEd setting but the checkbox below it, reply to html in plain text, wasn't checked. Changing that fixed it. I appreciate the response. -- Jack Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems on Windows 7
- In XP, the icon for TB was in the system tray. Windows 7 doesn't see to have a way to place it there and places it in the task bar. Sometimes, and I can't isolate what causes it, the icon will move to what BM I suspect that the icon is in the show hidden icons area (arrow BM to the left of the system tray). Yes, that was it. Thank you for the explanation. -- Jack Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problems on Windows 7
Hi, I recently moved my installation from an XP to a Windows 7 computer. There were a lot of problems relating to disk (paths not found). TB support said to rename the registry section for TB and that seems to have taken care of most of the problems I was having. But it removed all of my settings and I can't seem to get them back to where they were. I'm wondering if it is due to being on Windows 7 or if there is a setting mistake. I have two main problems right now: - When I reply to some emails, the persons text is in a block with a solid bar down the side. I vaguely remember having this problem when I upgraded to V3, I think, and it was due to how the editor was setup. But I set that to plain text and for some emails the text is quoted as separate lines. - In XP, the icon for TB was in the system tray. Windows 7 doesn't see to have a way to place it there and places it in the task bar. Sometimes, and I can't isolate what causes it, the icon will move to what -- Jack Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems on Windows 7
Oops, I sent this before it was complete. While typing the second problem I thought to see if there was a setting for it and there is. I went back to edit that text and sent by mistake. I see though that my text was not formatted properly. I have the editor to go to a new line at 70 characters. It is doing it now as I type but when the message shows on the list, there's no limit. Guess I still have two problems. :) J Hi, J I recently moved my installation from an XP to a Windows 7 J computer. There were a lot of problems relating to disk (paths not J found). TB support said to rename the registry section for TB and J that seems to have taken care of most of the problems I was having. J But it removed all of my settings and I can't seem to get them back J to where they were. I'm wondering if it is due to being on Windows J 7 or if there is a setting mistake. I have two main problems right now: J J - When I reply to some emails, the persons text is in a block with a J solid bar down the side. I vaguely remember having this problem J when I upgraded to V3, I think, and it was due to how the editor J was setup. But I set that to plain text and for some emails the J text is quoted as separate lines. J - In XP, the icon for TB was in the system tray. Windows 7 doesn't J see to have a way to place it there and places it in the task bar. J Sometimes, and I can't isolate what causes it, the icon will move to what -- Jack Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems on Windows 7
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 at 23:09:41 -0400,Jack wrote: I see though that my text was not formatted properly. I have the editor to go to a new line at 70 characters. It is doing it now as I type but when the message shows on the list, there's no limit. It sounds as though you are using the Windows editor, not the MicroEd editor. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.42 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat, Windows 7 64bit and MAPI
In plain words, it doesn't work. 29/04/2011, 11:42:11: FETCH - Cannot connect to the server. Error loading MAPI Library OTE - Central Domain I have found a workaround at http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forum/index.php?PAGE_NAME=readFID=4TID=9697 but since I have outlook installed (and there is no option to remove it) I cannot install Microsoft Exchange Server MAPI Client and Collaboration Data Objects 1.2.1 The clumsy solution is that I have set a windows xp virtual machine, but this is unacceptable. -- That is not dead which can eternal lie, yet with strange aeons even death may die Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat, Windows 7 64bit and MAPI
All versions since v4.2.33.9 (i haven't any earlier version to test) I have opened https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8653 -- That is not dead which can eternal lie, yet with strange aeons even death may die 2011/4/29 George Μ. Menegakis menega...@gmail.com: In plain words, it doesn't work. 29/04/2011, 11:42:11: FETCH - Cannot connect to the server. Error loading MAPI Library OTE - Central Domain I have found a workaround at http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forum/index.php?PAGE_NAME=readFID=4TID=9697 but since I have outlook installed (and there is no option to remove it) I cannot install Microsoft Exchange Server MAPI Client and Collaboration Data Objects 1.2.1 The clumsy solution is that I have set a windows xp virtual machine, but this is unacceptable. -- That is not dead which can eternal lie, yet with strange aeons even death may die Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat, Windows 7, transfer to new laptop on home network
Hi, all, I have used The Bat for 8 yrs 5 mos. I am replacing a computer on our home network with a laptop that uses Windows 7. a. any issues I need to be aware of in using the The Bat with Windows 7 before installing The Bat on the new computer? I currently use ver. 4.0.18. Is it necessary to download the latest version of the The Bat in order to make sure that The Bat will be compatible with Windows 7. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! and gpg4win on Windows 7 64 bit
Hi all, did anyone got that combination running? I tried but The Bat! asks for the passphrase and then complains that there was a PGP error and shows an empty message box. Not very helpful :-) I resorted to Claws Mail for encrypted mails for now but that is not really my favorite option. -- Regards, Raymund Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! and gpg4win on Windows 7 64 bit
Hi On Tuesday 23 February 2010 at 5:58:21 PM, in mid:58435564.20100223185...@gmx.at, Raymund Tump wrote: did anyone got that combination running? Not tried I tried but The Bat! asks for the passphrase and then complains that there was a PGP error and shows an empty message box. Not very helpful :-) Probably an obvious point, but in TB! at Options | OpenPGP | Choose OpenPGP Version have you selected GNU Privacy Guard (GPG)? Oh, and what are you doing when you get this PGP error (signing, decrypting, sign+encrypt...) and does it say anything more specific? It may ring a bell with somebody. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com It's better to feed one cat than many mice Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! and gpg4win on Windows 7 64 bit
Hi all, I tried but The Bat! asks for the passphrase and then complains that there was a PGP error and shows an empty message box. Not very helpful :-) Found a website that told me to change the trust on the sender's certificate. That did the trick. The empty message box seems to be a known problem. I resorted to Claws Mail for encrypted mails for now but that is not really my favorite option. Luckily I can deinstall now :-) -- Regards, Raymund Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing TB! default folder - Windows 7
Hello Roelof, Sunday, January 31, 2010, 5:50:04 AM, you wrote: RO Options - preferences - System - Mail Directory Done. Thanks. It was simple but I couldn't see this option. -- Cheers, Cesar Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Changing TB! default folder - Windows 7
Hello Tbudl, I'm thinking of creating an encrypted folder using TrueCrypt container. Today the messages are in c:\Users\myaccount\AppData\Roaming\TheBat How can I indicate to the TB program! a new folder information, for instance d:\crypt\TheBat and get rid of the default Mail folder? Grateful -- Cheers , Cesar Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing TB! default folder - Windows 7
Hallo Cesar, On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 00:30:48 -0200GMT (31-1-2010, 3:30 +0100, where I live), you wrote: CS How can I indicate to the TB program! a new folder information, for CS instance d:\crypt\TheBat and get rid of the default Mail folder? Options - preferences - System - Mail Directory -- Groetjes, Roelof Windws is ine for bckgroun comunicaions- Bll Gats, 192 http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.2.24.5 Beta Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpvoRvVxq7sp.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hi Cesar, Thanks for your message. That's the problem. I give my permission every time TB! starts. Try the following: Find The Bat! in the Program Files directory, right click it and go to the compatibility tab. Check Run as Administrator. However, if I lower the warnings level from UAC (no warning, lowest level), nothing bothers me anymore. Well, to run the computer with an administrative account and turning off UAC is a very, very bad idea. That would open the door for more malwares like the one you got from that iPhone website :-) I should probably do that because as I read before from friends at TBUDL, UAC wouldn't help so much with security issues. Well, security wise it is always a good idea to run with the least possible privileges. So create a restricted user and if you need to install something make sure you scan it first for virus and malware and then install it using the administrative account that was created during the setup of the computer. -- Regards, Raymund Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hello Raymund, Thursday, December 31, 2009, 2:10:04 PM, you wrote: Try the following: Find The Bat! in the Program Files directory, right click it and go to the compatibility tab. Check Run as Administrator. Thanks for your message. Your suggestion, even running TB as Administrator, the program prompts asking for permission to access the HD and to commit changes on it. I tried different levels from UAC vertical cursor. It only works without restriction if used with no UAC restrictions (UAC cursor down). According to Danger and an article I read about UAC it really doesn't provide enough security as I was thinking before. Anyway Kaspersky had picked up the Trojan and eliminated it. I think that whenever I try again searching for information from Google I should do it using Linux that, somehow, looks to have better means of protection. Thanks for your time! -- Best regards, Cesarmailto:tij...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC [now veering OT]
Hi On Thursday 31 December 2009 at 4:59:11 PM, in mid:1078363130.20091231145...@gmail.com, Cesar Santos wrote: I think that whenever I try again searching for information from Google I should do it using Linux that, somehow, looks to have better means of protection. Does Linux really have better means of protection, or is it simply targeted by fewer malware writers because it has fewer users? -- Best regards MFPA The second mouse gets the cheese Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC [now veering OT]
Hello MFPA, Thursday, December 31, 2009, 3:42:49 PM, you wrote: Does Linux really have better means of protection, or is it simply targeted by fewer malware writers because it has fewer users? Both, I think ;-) -- Best regards, Cesarmailto:tij...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC [now veering OT]
Hello MFPA, Thursday, December 31, 2009, 12:42:49 PM, you wrote: Hi On Thursday 31 December 2009 at 4:59:11 PM, in mid:1078363130.20091231145...@gmail.com, Cesar Santos wrote: I think that whenever I try again searching for information from Google I should do it using Linux that, somehow, looks to have better means of protection. Does Linux really have better means of protection, or is it simply targeted by fewer malware writers because it has fewer users? Both! Security Issues are taken very seriously and patched as soon as they are found. Having the source code makes it possible for many people to tackle the issue at once. Also usually it is easy to contact the package maintainers. -- Best regards, Dangermailto:dan...@bway.net Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hi On Tuesday 29 December 2009 at 5:53:52 PM, in mid:75203816.20091229185...@nosuchdomain.com, Peter Meyns wrote: Of course The Bat! makes changes to your computer. For some settings it even uses the registry. It's a pity there is no option to store most of the settings in an .ini file instead of the registry. -- Best regards MFPA If you can't convince them, confuse them. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hi, on Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:53:57 +GMT (30.12.2009, 15:53 +0100GMT here), MFPA wrote: M On Tuesday 29 December 2009 at 5:53:52 PM, in M mid:75203816.20091229185...@nosuchdomain.com, Peter Meyns wrote: Of course The Bat! makes changes to your computer. For some settings it even uses the registry. M It's a pity there is no option to store most of the settings in an M .ini file instead of the registry. Yes indeed. It is possible in Voyager, why not in The Bat!? -- Cheers Peter THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH! Aaa..er..if it's okay with you... Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
M It's a pity there is no option to store most of the settings in an M .ini file instead of the registry. Yes indeed. It is possible in Voyager, why not in The Bat!? So that people will buy Voyager? :p -- -Sam Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Peter Meyns wrote: Hi, on Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:53:57 +GMT (30.12.2009, 15:53 +0100GMT here), MFPA wrote: M On Tuesday 29 December 2009 at 5:53:52 PM, in M mid:75203816.20091229185...@nosuchdomain.com, Peter Meyns wrote: Of course The Bat! makes changes to your computer. For some settings it even uses the registry. M It's a pity there is no option to store most of the settings in an M .ini file instead of the registry. Yes indeed. It is possible in Voyager, why not in The Bat!? Microsoft decided that they wanted that all in one place. They do not encourage .ini files any more. however there is a good side to that as well because you can back up your registry and hive. I recommend a great free utility. Erunt http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/ Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hi On Wednesday 30 December 2009 at 3:15:48 PM, in mid:231103.87737...@web57801.mail.re3.yahoo.com, Sam Brown wrote: M It's a pity there is no option to store most of the M settings in an .ini file instead of the registry. Yes indeed. It is possible in Voyager, why not in The Bat!? So that people will buy Voyager? :p Can you buy Voyager? I thought it came free with TheBat! Professional Edition. -- Best regards MFPA The second mouse gets the cheese Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hello MFPA, Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 1:45:58 PM, you wrote: Can you buy Voyager? I thought it came free with TheBat! Professional Edition. Oh... I have home edition... -- Best regards, Cesarmailto:tij...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hi, on Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:15:48 -0800 (PST)GMT (30.12.2009, 16:15 +0100GMT here), Sam Brown wrote: M It's a pity there is no option to store most of the settings in an M .ini file instead of the registry. Yes indeed. It is possible in Voyager, why not in The Bat!? SB So that people will buy Voyager? :p I don't think so. The license for Voyager is included in The Bat! Pro. I think the reasons for using the registry are historical. The programmers obviously spend a lot of energy on improving TB!'s IMAP support, which for quite some users is very important. (I still use POP, but I'm not representative. ;) ) I can understand that they don't want to meddle with long established, well working parts, that only few people wish to be changed. -- Cheers Peter There's no place like 127.0.0.1. :) Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hi On Wednesday 30 December 2009 at 3:21:56 PM, in mid:4b3b7014.4040...@bway.net, Danger wrote: Microsoft decided that they wanted that all in one place. That doesn't mean non-microsoft software has to copy. Firefox puts hardly anything in the registry. TB! puts a lot more in the registry but still puts some stuff in .INI files. My mail folder contains ADDRBOOK.INI, avconfig.ini, COLORS.INI, PGP.INI, PRINT.INI, SmartBat.INI, SMIME.INI, and TBPlugin.INI, as well as settings in files with other extensions, such as AddrDontTrack.TXT and urlmgr.xml. And a protocol.ini file in each account folder. So RIT would seem to have no ideological objection to storing the settings in files. Personally, I think the registry entries should be limited to the minimum possible - things like file associations and identifying as the default email application, not things like window sizes and positions. (-: They do not encourage .ini files any more. But lots of software ignores that. And in typically hypocritical fashion, they use them themselves. Desktop.ini. ntuser.ini. Boot.ini... however there is a good side to that as well because you can back up your registry and hive. Good and bad. The registry gets bloated and slow. I would prefer the choice. -- Best regards MFPA Think for yourself. Otherwise you have to believe what other people tell you. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
On Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 17:54:05, MFPA wrote: Personally, I think the registry entries should be limited to the minimum possible - things like file associations and identifying as the default email application, not things like window sizes and positions. (-: As a sysadmin, having applications that don't use Registry for configuration is a PITA when you need to deploy some settings across a domain. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ You can't guard against the arbitrary. -- Borkowski's Law Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hi On Wednesday 30 December 2009 at 5:00:42 PM, in mid:1757376713.20091230180...@eternallybored.org, Jernej Simoncic wrote: On Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 17:54:05, MFPA wrote: Personally, I think the registry entries should be limited to the minimum possible - things like file associations and identifying as the default email application, not things like window sizes and positions. (-: As a sysadmin, having applications that don't use Registry for configuration is a PITA when you need to deploy some settings across a domain. I imagine it could be, depending on how/where the settings were stored. I was thinking from the perspective of a stand-alone pc. -- Best regards MFPA Ultimate consistency lies in being consistently inconsistent Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hi Danger, hi Cesar, I'm using version 4.2.12.4 of TheBat! Windows 7 64-bit. Every time I load the program Windows 7 - UAC - request authorization. Cesar: Which level of UAC do you use? I use W7 and UAC default and I'm never asked. Do you use any plug-ins? Why would you not lower the level of the UAC? Most think it is useless anyway. Danger: Some don't. At least up to now I'm under the impression that it is useful. Windows Vista is a different story. -- Regards, Raymund Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hello Raymund, Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 8:53:11 AM, you wrote: Hi Danger, hi Cesar, Cesar: Which level of UAC do you use? I use W7 and UAC default and I'm never asked. Do you use any plug-ins? Danger: Some don't. At least up to now I'm under the impression that it is useful. Windows Vista is a different story. I'm using the maximum level of UAC in Windows 7. So I installed the TB! I noticed this detail and reduce the very least the UAC. When entering a site with information about iPhone and VPN, the computer was the victim of a Trojan attack that anti-virus picked up and removed. I thought that raising the level of UAC I could have avoided this kind of attack. Whereas the last version of TB! reports to be compatible with Windows 7 I thought I would have no warning of the need for authorization. I noticed this detail when authorization was in the early 30-day free program TB! but persists even after the introduction of codes of TB! license registration. I am using GnuPG. I didn't install the international package of languages dictionary. I appreciate the information and thank you for your time. -- Best regards, Cesarmailto:tij...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hello Cesar, On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:26:11 -0200 GMT (29/Dec/09, 18:26 PM +0700 GMT), Cesar Santos wrote: CS I'm using the maximum level of UAC in Windows 7. So I installed the CS TB! I noticed this detail and reduce the very least the UAC. Why? CS When entering a site with information about iPhone and VPN, the CS computer was the victim of a Trojan attack that anti-virus picked up CS and removed. Interesting. Which website was it? But it seems that your AV (which one?) solved the problem, so I don't see hwo this is relevant to TB!. CS I thought that raising the level of UAC I could have avoided this kind CS of attack. No. Raising the level just increases the sensitivity. The website you visited would still have attacked you. CS Whereas the last version of TB! reports to be compatible CS with Windows 7 I thought I would have no warning of the need for CS authorization. CS I noticed this detail when authorization was in the early 30-day free CS program TB! but persists even after the introduction of codes of TB! CS license registration. I fail to see how this has to do with UAC. It seems to me that the software (TB!) is not properly registered on your system. CS I am using GnuPG. I didn't install the international package of CS languages dictionary. That's another issue. Not sure it has to do with TB!. CS I appreciate the information and thank you for your time. You are most welcome. I will spend the rest of the week, and in fact the rest of the year, on the beach. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.14.2 BETA under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 2:30:09 PM, you wrote: I fail to see how this has to do with UAC. It seems to me that the software (TB!) is not properly registered on your system. So, probably I should make a backup from TB! data and folders, remove TB! from HD and install it again, recovering the backup. By the way the AV is Kaspersky. Otherwise what else should I try to not get such annoyed prompt? I am not blaming TB! features. It seems to me, though, that there are so many information to customize that I might be puzzled. Regarding the international package I've mentioned only for information purposes. Hope you have a good time at the beach. Thank you. -- Best regards, Cesarmailto:tij...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hello Cesar, On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:48:44 -0200 GMT (29/Dec/09, 23:48 PM +0700 GMT), Cesar Santos wrote: I fail to see how this has to do with UAC. It seems to me that the software (TB!) is not properly registered on your system. CS So, probably I should make a backup from TB! data and folders, remove CS TB! from HD and install it again, recovering the backup. By the way CS the AV is Kaspersky. Who threw the exception (or was it a warning?): Kaspersky or Windows/UAC? I'm already interested in seeing the exact wording along with your answer. CS Otherwise what else should I try to not get such annoyed prompt? I am CS not blaming TB! features. It seems to me, though, that there are so CS many information to customize that I might be puzzled. No, we are trying to find out why you got the prompt even though you registered the software. In fact, I just had a problem like that (worse) caused by Kaspersky with regards to another software. CS Regarding the international package I've mentioned only for CS information purposes. OK. CS Hope you have a good time at the beach. I have no doubts. And thanks for your wishes. CS Thank you. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.14.2 BETA under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Otherwise what else should I try to not get such annoyed prompt? I am not blaming TB! features. It seems to me, though, that there are so many information to customize that I might be puzzled. When you get that UAC popup, you can click the little arrow for more details. In there, you can Allow... that program access. I don't have access to a Win7 machine right now, but I think it looks something like this: http://i.zdnet.com/blogs/norton_uac_08_sm.png -- -Sam Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 2:59:49 PM, you wrote: Who threw the exception (or was it a warning?): Kaspersky or Windows/UAC? I'm already interested in seeing the exact wording along with your answer. UAC I've got a prompt saying something like this (I will try to reproduce it in English because the version I am running is in Portuguese) Do you wish to permit the following program to make changes in this computer? Program Name TheBat Ritlabs Local c:\Program Files (x86)\TheBat\thebat.exe This happens when I start TheBat! If I close TB! and start it again I get the same prompt, and so on. Thanks. -- Best regards, Cesarmailto:tij...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hi Cesar, on Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:42:01 -0200GMT (29.12.2009, 18:42 +0100GMT here), you wrote: CS Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 2:59:49 PM, you wrote: Who threw the exception (or was it a warning?): Kaspersky or Windows/UAC? I'm already interested in seeing the exact wording along with your answer. CS UAC CS I've got a prompt saying something like this (I will try to reproduce CS it in English because the version I am running is in Portuguese) CS Do you wish to permit the following program to make changes in this CS computer? Of course The Bat! makes changes to your computer. For some settings it even uses the registry. I would permit this, so TB! can work its way. -- Cheers Peter Insanity is hereditary. You get it from your kids. Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hello Peter, Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 3:53:52 PM, you wrote: Of course The Bat! makes changes to your computer. For some settings it even uses the registry. I would permit this, so TB! can work its way. Hi, Peter Thanks for your message. That's the problem. I give my permission every time TB! starts. I wish to find out a way to give it only once. However, if I lower the warnings level from UAC (no warning, lowest level), nothing bothers me anymore. I should probably do that because as I read before from friends at TBUDL, UAC wouldn't help so much with security issues. -- Best regards, Cesarmailto:tij...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hi Cesar, on Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:03:13 -0200GMT (29.12.2009, 19:03 +0100GMT here), you wrote: CS Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 3:53:52 PM, you wrote: Of course The Bat! makes changes to your computer. For some settings it even uses the registry. I would permit this, so TB! can work its way. CS ... That's the problem. I give my permission every time TB! CS starts. I wish to find out a way to give it only once ... Of course. I thought there was some selection offered like allow only this time and allow permanently. But then, I haven't laid my fingers on Windows 7 as yet. I'll stick to XP as long as it does what I need. :) CS However, if I lower the warnings level from UAC (no warning, lowest CS level), nothing bothers me anymore. CS I should probably do that because as I read before from friends at CS TBUDL, UAC wouldn't help so much with security issues. If UAC is as useless as Danger said, turn it off. You certainly have other security equipment installed anyway. -- Cheers Peter Smash forehead on keyboard to continue. Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hello Tbudl, I'm using version 4.2.12.4 of TheBat! Windows 7 64-bit. Every time I load the program Windows 7 - UAC - request authorization. It was once and are now requested authorization 2 times. Is there a way to overcome this situation without lowering the security level of Windows 7 - UAC? Thanks -- Best regards, Cesar Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hello Cesar, Monday, December 28, 2009, 10:05:30 PM, you wrote: Hello Tbudl, I'm using version 4.2.12.4 of TheBat! Windows 7 64-bit. Every time I load the program Windows 7 - UAC - request authorization. It was once and are now requested authorization 2 times. Is there a way to overcome this situation without lowering the security level of Windows 7 - UAC? Thanks Why would you not lower the level of the UAC? Most think it is useless anyway. -- Best regards, Dangermailto:dan...@bway.net Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Windows 7 The Bat and Gmail
I have started using GMail so as to get my mail onto my iphone easily. I love the labels approach rather than having copies in folders. I also like that threeads automaticallyt include replies without having to copy to the same folder. This plays havoc with TBs unread counts as IMAP from google shows multiple copies. I tried the latest thunderbird, an whilst it is vastly inferior wrt to many things including threading, it handles Gmail IMP much better. Does anyone have any suggestions for making TB more gmail friendly. I really don't want to leave, but after many years, TB is making my email life harder, not easier. Cheers paul jansen Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7 The Bat and Gmail
Hello PJ, Monday, December 14, 2009, 12:45:25 PM, you wrote: I have started using GMail so as to get my mail onto my iphone easily. I love the labels approach rather than having copies in folders. I also While not directly Gmail related, I'd love to have true IMAP labels implemented in TB!, see: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6523 No such luck, I am afraid. [...] Does anyone have any suggestions for making TB more gmail friendly. I really don't want to leave, but after many years, TB is making my email life harder, not easier. Nope. TB!'s IMAP support is broken beyond repair (and is unlikely to ever get fixed), and Gmail's IMAP implementation is sometimes quirky, too. However, Gmail is extremely popular and you'll see support for it getting better in major email clients (i.e. Thunderbird). -- Best regards, Robert Tomanek mailto:tb...@mail.robert.tomanek.org Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving DB and settings from Voyager 3 to Windows 7 desktop
Hello TBUDL, I am currently running my mail on Voyager 3.95.06 from a USB drive. I have a new desktop install of Windows 7 and I want to transfer all the data and account settings to the new desktop. I am planning to upgrade my key to V4.2 pro. What would be the best path to do this? -- Best regards, Scott mailto:scott...@gmx.net Using The Bat! 3.95.06 under Windows XP Professional/5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 3 (0 days 13:54:56) on Uno Intel Pentium 4 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving DB and settings from Voyager 3 to Windows 7 desktop
Hello Scott, Monday, December 7, 2009, 2:57:15 AM, you wrote: Hello TBUDL, I am currently running my mail on Voyager 3.95.06 from a USB drive. I have a new desktop install of Windows 7 and I want to transfer all the data and account settings to the new desktop. I am planning to upgrade my key to V4.2 pro. What would be the best path to do this? If I had to this I would make sure of a few things. Make and test out the backup so that you know before all your data is moved that the bat works... no idea how much data is involved but I know from personal experience that if you have to download as in my case again from google it takes a long time... Also I still have 50% still missing which was in voyager backup. Keep also in mind that if you go for latest OS the Voyager may need an update as well to make sure it can handle the latest files... Reminds me, google and the bat donot do a proper job on downloading again as dates on what comes in is totally adjusted to current time/date... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7
Hello Stuart, SC Hello Jack, SC A reminder of what Jack S. LaRosa typed on: SC Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 00:26:10 GMT -0600 JSL Just thought I'd give everyone an update. Windows 7 arrived today and JSL I successfully loaded it onto my wife's laptop which *had been* running Vista JSL Home Premium. TB! v4.0.38 seems to be behaving just fine so far. JSL Many thanks to all who contributed their expertise on this question. SC Congratulations. Can you now confirm the following bug: SC Using Windows 7 RTM, when I open SmartBat there is no icon showing up in the SC taskbar. If I then change the focus to another window SmartBat disappears and SC needs to be reopened. At this point if you had scrolled up the page in SmartBat SC you position would have been lost. SC If so please confirm here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7748 Unfortunately I have never used SmartBat and don't even know what it's used for. I would be happy to provide you with results of whatever step-by-step procedure you provide for me to follow although I see that at this time there are already two confirmations at the above web page. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7
Hello Jack, A reminder of what Jack S. LaRosa typed on: Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 00:26:10 GMT -0600 JSL Just thought I'd give everyone an update. Windows 7 arrived today and JSL I successfully loaded it onto my wife's laptop which *had been* running Vista JSL Home Premium. TB! v4.0.38 seems to be behaving just fine so far. JSL Many thanks to all who contributed their expertise on this question. Congratulations. Can you now confirm the following bug: Using Windows 7 RTM, when I open SmartBat there is no icon showing up in the taskbar. If I then change the focus to another window SmartBat disappears and needs to be reopened. At this point if you had scrolled up the page in SmartBat you position would have been lost. If so please confirm here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7748 -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Using The Bat! v4.2.10.17 (BETA) On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7600 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7
Hi Stuart! Congratulations. Can you now confirm the following bug: Well, he uses a different version than you do, so even if he confirms that doesn't help. Using Windows 7 RTM, when I open SmartBat there is no icon showing up in the taskbar. If I then change the focus to another window SmartBat disappears and needs to be reopened. At this point if you had scrolled up the page in SmartBat you position would have been lost. You're right there is no icon on the taskbar. You're wrong with SmartBat has to be reopened. If you don't maximize the TB! window and drag SmartBat's window so that it is visible all the time, you see it vanishing when the focus leaves the bat and coming back when the focus comes back. So, minimizing TB's window even gives you your SmartBat's window back. -- Regards, Raymund TB 4.2.12.1 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7
Hello Raymund, A reminder of what Raymund Tump typed on: Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 21:53:29 GMT +0100 Congratulations. Can you now confirm the following bug: RT Well, he uses a different version than you do, so even if he confirms RT that doesn't help. It helps from the standpoint that it is a continuing bug. :) Using Windows 7 RTM, when I open SmartBat there is no icon showing up in the taskbar. If I then change the focus to another window SmartBat disappears and needs to be reopened. At this point if you had scrolled up the page in SmartBat you position would have been lost. RT You're right there is no icon on the taskbar. Thank you for the confirmation. RT You're wrong with SmartBat has to be reopened. If you don't maximize RT the TB! window and drag SmartBat's window so that it is visible all RT the time, you see it vanishing when the focus leaves the bat and RT coming back when the focus comes back. This may actually be something new with the latest releases. I will have to test further in the situation where the problem was originally found. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Using The Bat! v4.2.12.2 On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7600 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Windows 7
Fellow list members, Just thought I'd give everyone an update. Windows 7 arrived today and I successfully loaded it onto my wife's laptop which *had been* running Vista Home Premium. TB! v4.0.38 seems to be behaving just fine so far. Many thanks to all who contributed their expertise on this question. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7
Hallo MFPA, On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:25:55 +GMT (26-10-2009, 0:25 +0100, where I live), you wrote: M Are the .tbb files still the same as before? Yes M If so, wouldn't 4.0.38 re-create the .tbi files if the .tbb files were M copied back to the mail directories of the 4.0.38 installation? Probably, provided the files don't exceed the 2 GB and the old index files are deleted. -- Groetjes, Roelof Every person constructs their own bed of nails. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.2.10.17 (BETA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp1tr3mWvSIx.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7
Hi Jack, Saturday, October 24, 2009, 6:02:48 PM, you wrote: Fellow list members, Since the consensus seems to be that in order to ensure compatibility with W7 I'll need to upgrade to at least 4.0.38 (thanks Doug), will I have to purchase the upgrade or will my 3.99.3 key enable the upgrade? I have no objections to the purchase but I'd hate to spend the money if it's not necessary. That's the other advantage, you can use your old key. That's what I did. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 4.0.38 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7
Hi On Saturday 24 October 2009 at 7:25:30 PM, in mid:641340290.20091024212...@eternallybored.org, Jernej Simoncic wrote: IIRC, 4.0.38 is the last version that works with 3.x keys. You need to buy an upgrade for 4.1.0 and newer (note that 4.1 also changes the message store format, so you cannot downgrade from it to 4.0.38). Could you export the messages to unix mailbox format, then downgrade, then import them back in? -- Best regards MFPA Never trust a dog with orange eyebrows Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7
Hi On Saturday 24 October 2009 at 9:44:20 PM, in mid:1719562685.20091024234...@ipex.cz, Marek Mikus wrote: messages are still stored in MESSAGES.TBB, since 4.1 message index file MESSAGES.TBI is converted to MESSAGES.TBN to introduce new features and enable larger msgbases than 2GB. Are the .tbb files still the same as before? If so, wouldn't 4.0.38 re-create the .tbi files if the .tbb files were copied back to the mail directories of the 4.0.38 installation? -- Best regards MFPA The second mouse gets the cheese Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Windows 7
Fellow list members, Well, I'm pretty sure I searched the archives (http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl%40thebat.dutaint.com/) correctly and didn't find anything useful regarding how TB! is going to work w/Windows 7, or even *IF* it's going to work. Both my wife and I are running TB! v3.99.3, she using Vista Home Premium and me using XP Pro. She took advantage of the pre-purchase offer a few months ago and we have received notice from MS that the package has been shipped. Based on what I've read about W7 since then, I'm starting to get worried about what is and is not going to run. Can anybody assuage my concerns? -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7
Hello all, Saturday, October 24, 2009, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Fellow list members, Well, I'm pretty sure I searched the archives (http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl%40thebat.dutaint.com/) correctly and didn't find anything useful regarding how TB! is going to work w/Windows 7, or even *IF* it's going to work. first version of The Bat! tested for compatibility with Windows 7 is 4.2.10, check http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=2931 -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.2.10.17 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.1.5 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7
Hello Jack, hello all, and didn't find anything useful regarding how TB! is going to work w/Windows 7, or even *IF* it's going to work. Ritlabs says on its website it is Windows 7 ready. And TB! works on Windows 7. However, there were some crashes. Moreover, I suspect TB! of causing a bug where touchpad (Synaptic) stops responding on clicks - this does not happen if you avoid using minimize to system tray. Hope it helps. -- Best regards, rmarwmailto:chees...@gmail.com To get my PGP Key, please write a mail with PGP Key in subject. Using The Bat! v4.2.10.1 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7
Hi Marek, Saturday, October 24, 2009, 5:26:07 PM, you wrote: Hello all, Saturday, October 24, 2009, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Fellow list members, Well, I'm pretty sure I searched the archives (http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl%40thebat.dutaint.com/) correctly and didn't find anything useful regarding how TB! is going to work w/Windows 7, or even *IF* it's going to work. first version of The Bat! tested for compatibility with Windows 7 is 4.2.10, check http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=2931 No problems with 4.0.38. I've never seen a reason for upgrading to 4.2.10. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 4.0.38 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7
Hello Marek, MM Hello all, MM Saturday, October 24, 2009, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Fellow list members, Well, I'm pretty sure I searched the archives (http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl%40thebat.dutaint.com/) correctly and didn't find anything useful regarding how TB! is going to work w/Windows 7, or even *IF* it's going to work. MM first version of The Bat! tested for compatibility with Windows 7 is MM 4.2.10, check MM http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=2931 Thanks for the info Marek. I'll download and install version 4.2.10 before we load W7 onto her machine. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7
Dear Rmarw, @24-Oct-2009, 18:47 +0200 (24-Oct 5:47 PM here) rmarw [R] in mid:302934671.20091024184...@gmail.com said to Jack: ... snip R And TB! works on Windows 7. Confirmed. R However, there were some crashes. Not confirmed. I have found no problems with Windows 7 Ultimate RTM. R Moreover, I suspect TB! of causing a bug where touchpad (Synaptic) R stops responding on clicks - this does not happen if you avoid using R minimize to system tray. I cannot confirm this either. It does not happen on this laptop running TB on Windows 7. I have seen pad clicks stop working randomly on a Vista premium Vaio with or without using TB. -- Cheers -- iviarck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v4.2.10.17 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1.7600 ' pgpFcTtyQ1fmK.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Windows 7
Fellow list members, Since the consensus seems to be that in order to ensure compatibility with W7 I'll need to upgrade to at least 4.0.38 (thanks Doug), will I have to purchase the upgrade or will my 3.99.3 key enable the upgrade? I have no objections to the purchase but I'd hate to spend the money if it's not necessary. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7
On Saturday, October 24, 2009, 20:02:48, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Since the consensus seems to be that in order to ensure compatibility with W7 I'll need to upgrade to at least 4.0.38 (thanks Doug), will I have to purchase the upgrade or will my 3.99.3 key enable the upgrade? IIRC, 4.0.38 is the last version that works with 3.x keys. You need to buy an upgrade for 4.1.0 and newer (note that 4.1 also changes the message store format, so you cannot downgrade from it to 4.0.38). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ There is no traffic until you start to back out of your driveway. -- First Law of Driving Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7
Hello Jernej, JS On Saturday, October 24, 2009, 20:02:48, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Since the consensus seems to be that in order to ensure compatibility with W7 I'll need to upgrade to at least 4.0.38 (thanks Doug), will I have to purchase the upgrade or will my 3.99.3 key enable the upgrade? JS IIRC, 4.0.38 is the last version that works with 3.x keys. You need to JS buy an upgrade for 4.1.0 and newer (note that 4.1 also changes the JS message store format, so you cannot downgrade from it to 4.0.38). Which brings up a question. If by message store format you mean the actual format in which the messages were stored, fine. I can understand older versions not being able to understand the newer format. However, with earlier versions messages were stored on the disk in the MAIL folder buried in C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\Jack S. LaRosa\inbox The above location contains a file called MESSAGES.TBB which I believe are the actual messages. There's also a file called MESSAGES.TBI whose function is a mystery to me. After the change in the message store format was instituted with 4.1, where are messages stored now? TIA -- Jack LaRosamailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7
Hello all, Saturday, October 24, 2009, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Which brings up a question. If by message store format you mean the actual format in which the messages were stored, fine. I can understand older versions not being able to understand the newer format. However, with earlier versions messages were stored on the disk in the MAIL folder buried in C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\Jack S. LaRosa\inbox The above location contains a file called MESSAGES.TBB which I believe are the actual messages. There's also a file called MESSAGES.TBI whose function is a mystery to me. After the change in the message store format was instituted with 4.1, where are messages stored now? messages are still stored in MESSAGES.TBB, since 4.1 message index file MESSAGES.TBI is converted to MESSAGES.TBN to introduce new features and enable larger msgbases than 2GB. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.2.10.17 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.1.5 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7
On Saturday, October 24, 2009, 23:36:58, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\Jack S. LaRosa\inbox The message store has not been placed in Program Files by default for several versions now (since only administrative users have permission to write there, and in Vista and newer, even when logged in with administrative privileges, the programs run with normal user privileges by default). The above location contains a file called MESSAGES.TBB which I believe are the actual messages. There's also a file called MESSAGES.TBI whose function is a mystery to me. After the change in the message store format was instituted with 4.1, where are messages stored now? TBB files contain the messages, and TBI are the indexes. With 4.1, TBI files are replaced with TBN (one of the reasons for the change was to allow for message bases exceeding 2GB, but IIRC, there were a few other changes). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ If you mess with something long enough, it'll break. -- Farmer's Comment Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
