Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-03 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, May 02, 2000, 5:58:49 PM, Allie wrote: The reason why I wish to clarify this is because with TB!, when composing and the lines get wrapped, these CR's, although inserted by the editor, really equate to hard CR's. The wrapping isn't redone upon sending as far as I can tell. This is

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-03 Thread Michael Heydekamp
Hello Alexander, on Tue, 2 May 2000, at 16:32:46 sender's local time (timezone UTC+0400), Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: My suggestion would be, never to cancel hard returns. This should solve everything. AVK Allie, will you please understand that within plain/text medium AVK there is no way

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-03 Thread Michael Heydekamp
Hello Gary, on Tue, 2 May 2000, at 17:13:57 sender's local time (timezone UTC-0600), Gary Luther wrote: GL Well it finally happened. the "autoformat" topic went over GL the edge. Not only has it wasted a lot of bandwidth but it has GL also shown that if a topic is

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-03 Thread Steve Lamb
Wednesday, May 03, 2000, 9:26:41 AM, Michael wrote: Yes, Steve's message was rude. But: Apart from the flaming I can't find any wrong statement in there. He's not being nice, but he's right with what he's saying in terms of the topic. Trust me, the moderators have dinged me for it. I

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Ralf Buschmann
Dear Allie, you wrote on Tuesday, May 02, 2000, 02:40:35: [snip] AM I write: AM The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. AM The line above is not to be auto-formatted. I then decide to re-edit and AM insert some extra words. AM The quick brown fox, before making a great

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 1 May 00, at 19:40, Allie Martin wrote about "Re: auto-format is too robotic isn'": My suggestion would be, never to cancel hard returns. This should solve everything. Allie, will you please understand that within plain/text medium there is no way for the program to

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Tue, 2 May 2000 16:32:46 +0400, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: Allie, will you please understand that within plain/text medium there is no way for the program to distinguish between _your_ hard returns and the hard returns inserted by the line-wrapping algorithm? Pardon my slowness for

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 2 May 00, at 14:57, Allie Martin wrote about "Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?": Allie, will you please understand that within plain/text medium there is no way for the program to distinguish between _your_ hard returns and the hard returns inserted b

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, May 02, 2000, 2:25:04 PM, Alexander wrote: Allie, no personal offence, please! I didn't mean to insult you, just wanted to stress the idea that if we stay on the grounds of _plain_text_ medium, we need to take into account that there is _no_ paragraph concept applicable to this

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 2 May 00, at 14:48, Steve Lamb wrote about "Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?": Mistake #1. You're thinking that there are only lines. I see only data which can be represented any number of ways. Let's just say that just because the limitation e

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, May 02, 2000, 3:14:59 PM, Alexander wrote: Mistake #1 on your side: you think plain ASCII is a limitation of some (unknown to me) sort, whereas _I_ think ASCII is a _power_, a well-thought standard that those guys who invented "soft returns" and things alike (read: M$ with its Word

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Tom Plunket
My suggestion would be, never to cancel hard returns. This should solve everything. AVK Allie, will you please understand that within plain/text medium there is no way AVK for the program to distinguish between _your_ hard returns and the hard AVK returns inserted by the line-wrapping

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 2 May 00, at 15:38, Steve Lamb wrote about "Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?": Okay, this has been my last message to this list. I'm sick and tired of those AMERICAN IDIOTS over here who can only shout, can only be unnecessarily rude to others. The next

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Tom Plunket
AVK Mistake #1 on your side: you think plain ASCII is a limitation of some AVK (unknown to me) sort, whereas _I_ think ASCII is a _power_, a well-thought AVK standard that those guys who invented "soft returns" and things alike (read: AVK M$ with its Word and heaps of others) just plain

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Wed, 3 May 2000 01:25:04 +0400, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: 8 In my previous message I suggested that the indented line should be considered as the paragraph _boundary_, note further that I suggested this only as a quick fix to what we have right now (see also below). This would mean

Re[2]: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Gary
Hi Allie, On Tuesday, May 02, 2000, 7:37:56 PM, you wrote in part about "auto-format is too robotic isn't it?": A OK, I understand what you were saying and see that it will indeed A work though in a limited fashion. It was a problem with the wording A of what you had said. Personall

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Tue, 2 May 2000 14:48:06 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: 8 Simple. The block which is a paragraph is the one defined with a hard CR and the one that is not is defined with a soft CR. How TB! defines those is up to the internal logic which is, as I demonstrated, not limited to the logic of

Re[2]: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Gary Luther
Hello All; Well it finally happened. the "autoformat" topic went over the edge. Not only has it wasted a lot of bandwidth but it has also shown that if a topic is discussed long enough that it will eventually bring out the worst side of us. Hm!! SUGGESTION:

Delete thread on server (was: Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?)

2000-05-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi List, this thread makes me wonder if I have a "delete thread on server" option in the message dispatcher. I certainly don't want to download this thread at NT$ 60/hour, average about 1K/min, when I get home. Thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.41 under

auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-01 Thread rellieb-cal
Dear Bat folk I have started to use Auto-Format in Bat editor, and I wonder how to make a hard-return in some situations. For example, with wrap-text set at 70, I type a line like a particular type of cartridge, and wonder if you are doing it right. and as soon as I type a space at the end of

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-01 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello rellieb-cal, Monday, May 01, 2000, 5:13:01 AM, you wrote: rc Do I have to place a blank line in between these paragraphs Yes, you do. - -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP RSA 1024 bits Key

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-01 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi rellieb-cal, On 01 May 2000 at 13:13:01 GMT +1000 (which was 04:13 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "auto-format is too robotic isn't it?": Do I have to place a blank line in between these paragraphs Yes. if I intend to indent

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Mon, 1 May 2000 09:36:30 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: if I intend to indent the first line of that new paragraph with a few blank spaces or whatever. Sadly auto-format denies the possibility of using paragraph indent. It suits my purposes perfectly because I don't indent

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-01 Thread Randy Robinson
Hello Lionel, Monday, May 01, 2000, 3:38:09 AM, you wrote: LEM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- LEM Hash: SHA1 LEM Hello rellieb-cal, LEM Monday, May 01, 2000, 5:13:01 AM, you wrote: rc Do I have to place a blank line in between these paragraphs LEM Yes, you do. You've found the one

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-01 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 1 May 00, at 18:05, Randy Robinson wrote about "Re: auto-format is too robotic isn'": You've found the one thing I hate about TheBat! It's the best program around, but I guess you can't have everything! It has a very strange idea of what autoformatting is. I wanted

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Mon, 1 May 2000 18:05:33 -0500, Randy Robinson wrote: Hello Lionel, Monday, May 01, 2000, 3:38:09 AM, you wrote: LEM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- LEM Hash: SHA1 LEM Hello rellieb-cal, LEM Monday, May 01, 2000, 5:13:01 AM, you wrote: rc Do I have to place a blank line in between

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Tue, 2 May 2000 03:23:31 +0400, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: Well, it's of course less then perfect, but it can be _easily_ fixed (at least, temporarily). The quick fix should be this one: "do not autoformat indented lines plus never remove the spaces in the beginning of any line". That's