Re: bat not secure any more? messages.tbb can be read after locking

2001-07-03 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Melissa!

On Monday, July 02, 2001 at 11:13:40 PM you wrote:

 I use PGPdisk as well, and it's very good.  For those not using a version
 of PGP that includes PGPdisk

PGPDisk is available in the CKT version.



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Re: bat not secure any more? messages.tbb can be read after locking

2001-07-03 Thread Jamie Dainton

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Hello john,
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 12:32:50 -0400 GMT your local time,
which was Monday, July 02, 2001, 5:32:50 PM (GMT+0100) (BST) my local time,

john wrote:


j   My main reason for using The Bat! is to be able to lock my email
j   accounts at work, and have the mail files encrypted on the hard
j   drive.


I don't know if you're the sysadmin or someone high up, but if a
standard user started putting encrypted data on a work machine I know
our sysadmin would probably format c:, recreate from the backup and lock
the machine down tight.


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Re[2]: bat not secure any more? messages.tbb can be read after locking

2001-07-03 Thread David Elliott

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Hi Jamie

On 03 July 2001 at 08:47:42 +0100 (which was 08:47 where I live) Jamie
Dainton a écrit

 If a standard user started putting encrypted data on a work machine I
 know our sysadmin would probably format c:, recreate from the backup and
 lock the machine down tight.

I have done that in the past when the user did not tell me what they were
doing. If they told me first 'No problem'.


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Re[2]: bat not secure any more? messages.tbb can be read after locking

2001-07-03 Thread john

yeah my last job the sysadmin did this.

but I am now one of the sysadmins.

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bat not secure any more? messages.tbb can be read after locking

2001-07-02 Thread john

Hello Tbudl,


  My main reason for using The Bat! is to be able to lock my email
  accounts at work, and have the mail files encrypted on the hard
  drive.

  I just downloaded ver 1.53d demo after a long while of not using
The Bat!
  I password protected my accounts and viewed the messages.tbb file
  with a text editor , to my horror I could read the mail!!

  What has happened? Is there an extra plugin required?

  Is there a workaround to get mail encrypted on the hard drive?

  I love the Bat , but cannot use it without this feature, I hope
  someone has a solution.  

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Re: bat not secure any more? messages.tbb can be read after locking

2001-07-02 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello john!

On Monday, July 02, 2001 at 6:32:50 PM you wrote:

   I love the Bat , but cannot use it without this feature, I hope
   someone has a solution.

SecureBat.



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Re: bat not secure any more? messages.tbb can be read after locking

2001-07-02 Thread Thomas F

Hello john,

On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 12:32:50 -0400 GMT (03/07/2001, 00:32 +0800 GMT),
john wrote:

j I just downloaded ver 1.53d demo after a long while of not using
j The Bat! I password protected my accounts and viewed the
j messages.tbb file with a text editor , to my horror I could read
j the mail!!

j   What has happened?

There were problems with the necryption a few few ago, and it was
decided that no encryption is better than a weak encryption, giving a
false sense of security.

j   Is there a workaround to get mail encrypted on the hard drive?

PGPDisk is your friend. Or SecureBat! (see www.ritlabs.com), but that
requires a hardware token.

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Re: bat not secure any more? messages.tbb can be read after locking

2001-07-02 Thread john


OK, I guess I have to add a new program to take care of hiding the
mail files.

I ended up downloading a program called Encryption Plus from PC
Guardian. This lite version allows you to protect/hide/encrypt 1
folder (c:\program files\the bat!\mail in my case) , so if you do not
login with encryption plus, the bat will not open. The file is also no
longer readable nor can it be found.



j Hello Tbudl,


j   My main reason for using The Bat! is to be able to lock my email
j   accounts at work, and have the mail files encrypted on the hard
j   drive.

j   I just downloaded ver 1.53d demo after a long while of not using
j The Bat!
j   I password protected my accounts and viewed the messages.tbb file
j   with a text editor , to my horror I could read the mail!!

j   What has happened? Is there an extra plugin required?

j   Is there a workaround to get mail encrypted on the hard drive?

j   I love the Bat , but cannot use it without this feature, I hope
j   someone has a solution.  




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Re: bat not secure any more? messages.tbb can be read after locking

2001-07-02 Thread Thomas F

Hello john,

On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 14:38:37 -0400 GMT (03/07/01, 02:38 +0800 GMT),
john wrote:

j I ended up downloading a program called Encryption Plus from PC
j Guardian.

URL?

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Re[2]: bat not secure any more? messages.tbb can be read after locking

2001-07-02 Thread Radek Pytlik

Hello john,

Monday, July 02, 2001, 8:38:37 PM, you wrote:

j OK, I guess I have to add a new program to take care of hiding the
j mail files.

I recommend you bProtected 2000 v4.1 by Clasys. The URL is
http://www.clasys.com .

It's a shareware program, but has no limitations. Only a nag screen appears
randomly ...

The application successfully hides files or folders you specify. There
are a number of options you can choose. Just try it ;-)

Radek

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Re[2]: bat not secure any more? messages.tbb can be read after locking

2001-07-02 Thread john

Hello Thomas,

Monday, July 02, 2001, 2:48:27 PM, you wrote:

TF Hello john,

TF On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 14:38:37 -0400 GMT (03/07/01, 02:38 +0800 GMT),
TF john wrote:

j I ended up downloading a program called Encryption Plus from PC
j Guardian.

TF URL?

Actually forget about Encryption Plus, although it works great, you
can only protect 1 folder, e.g. ...mail/john/inbox , so it is no good
unless you register ($39)

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Re: bat not secure any more? messages.tbb can be read after locking

2001-07-02 Thread Karin Spaink

On 02-07-2001 at 19:00, Dierk Haasis kindly wrote:
 Hello john!

   I love the Bat , but cannot use it without this feature, I hope
   someone has a solution.

 SecureBat.

That, or PGPdisk. You can assign a portion of any harddisk
or partition to PGPdisk, and it will behave like a new,
encrypted disk. I have all my articles, finances, research
and mail on a PGPdisk. I decrypt it once, when I start my
computer, and when I lock it nobody can read that disk
without the password.


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Re: bat not secure any more? messages.tbb can be read after locking

2001-07-02 Thread Melissa Reese

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On Monday, July 02, 2001, at 1:59:39 PM PDT, Karin Spaink wrote:

KS On 02-07-2001 at 19:00, Dierk Haasis kindly wrote:

 SecureBat.

KS That, or PGPdisk.

I use PGPdisk as well, and it's very good.  For those not using a version
of PGP that includes PGPdisk, there's also Scramdisk:

http://www.scramdisk.clara.net/

Scramdisk - which I also use - is very good (some even prefer it over
PGPdisk), and for Windows 9.x/ME it's free.  For Windows 2000, it's not
free, but at USD $20, it's still a good deal, in my opinion.

Melissa
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