Re: cc vs bcc screwup

2004-07-11 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Roelof,

Friday, July 9, 2004, 8:14:21 PM, Roelof Otten wrote:

J I recently messed up and sent out a newsletter using a group list in cc versus bcc.
J Took _so_ much care in preparing and testing, only to screw-up with the final
J version. Feel REALLY stupid.

RO Next time use the mass mailing feature. That way each recipient gets
RO his own message without any other recipients listed. Besides that, you
RO can personalise the messages with mass mailing: things like Hi %ToFName
RO work.

Yes I think this is best solution.


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Re[2]: cc vs bcc screwup

2004-07-11 Thread jwayne

On Sunday, July 11, 2004, 11:43:39 AM, Greg Strong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

GS Hello Roelof,

GS Friday, July 9, 2004, 8:14:21 PM, Roelof Otten wrote:

GS J I recently messed up and sent out a newsletter using a group list in cc
versus bcc.
GS J Took _so_ much care in preparing and testing, only to screw-up with the
final
GS J version. Feel REALLY stupid.

GS RO Next time use the mass mailing feature. That way each recipient gets
GS RO his own message without any other recipients listed. Besides that, you
GS RO can personalise the messages with mass mailing: things like Hi
%ToFName
GS RO work.

GS Yes I think this is best solution.

Doesn't this send out a separate email from one's computer to each recipient? It
seems like that would be an inordinate amount of resource for anything more than a
small email list.

jon
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Re: cc vs bcc screwup

2004-07-11 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo jwayne,

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 13:51:25 -0400GMT (11-7-2004, 19:51 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

GS RO Next time use the mass mailing feature.

GS Yes I think this is best solution.

J Doesn't this send out a separate email from one's computer to each recipient?

Yep it does, that's why their addresses aren't visible for others.

J It seems like that would be an inordinate amount of resource for
J anything more than a small email list.

Define 'an inordinate amount'
We're talking about a manually managed list, so it's small per
definition.
How big are your messages, what's your connectivity, how many
recipients, how often do you mail them.

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Re[2]: cc vs bcc screwup

2004-07-10 Thread jwayne

On Friday, July 9, 2004, 9:11:27 PM, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RO Hallo Ian,

RO On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 07:47:44 +1000GMT (9-7-2004, 23:47 +0200, where I
RO live), you wrote:

RO j I recently messed up and sent out a newsletter using a group list in cc
versus bcc.

RO IAW It can't be turned off, but the best solution I have found is to move
RO IAW it to the top of the header list. This way you can't tab down to it
RO IAW and inadvertently use it.

RO Actually it can be turned off in the header list, that way can't pick
RO it from the headers.

True, but it turns it off on a global basis. It would be nice if this were an
account or (better yet) folder customization feature.

jon

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cc vs bcc screwup

2004-07-09 Thread jwayne
I recently messed up and sent out a newsletter using a group list in cc versus bcc.
Took _so_ much care in preparing and testing, only to screw-up with the final
version. Feel REALLY stupid.

Any suggestions or tricks (besides BE MORE CAREFUL IDIOT) that can help prevent this
in the future?

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Re: cc vs bcc screwup

2004-07-09 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello TBUDL,

on Fri, 9. Jul 2004 at 17:02:47 -0400 jwayne wrote:

 Any suggestions or tricks (besides BE MORE CAREFUL IDIOT) that can help prevent this
 in the future?

what about using a template to bind the recipients to BCC?

like:
%BCC=your list goes here%-


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Re[2]: cc vs bcc screwup

2004-07-09 Thread jwayne
On Friday, July 9, 2004, 5:47:44 PM, Ian A. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

IAW jwayne,

IAW On Saturday, July 10, 2004, 7:02:47 AM, you (jwayne) wrote:

IAW j I recently messed up and sent out a newsletter using a group list in cc
versus bcc.

(snip)

IAW I have had this request from others I have introduced to TB! to
IAW prevent the spread of e-mail addresses particularly with various
IAW privacy laws.

IAW It can't be turned off, but the best solution I have found is to move
IAW it to the top of the header list. This way you can't tab down to it
IAW and inadvertently use it.

I did that plus the other suggestion posted regarding templates.

It would be nice if headers could be hidden on a per account (or folder) basis.
Another helpful feature would be a configurable confirmation to prompt the
sender if there were more than x number of recipients in the To or CC fields.
It's no excuse for my screwup, but this is not that unusual of a mistake.

jon
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Re: cc vs bcc screwup

2004-07-09 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Ian,

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 07:47:44 +1000GMT (9-7-2004, 23:47 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

j I recently messed up and sent out a newsletter using a group list in cc versus bcc.

IAW It can't be turned off, but the best solution I have found is to move
IAW it to the top of the header list. This way you can't tab down to it
IAW and inadvertently use it.

Actually it can be turned off in the header list, that way can't pick
it from the headers.

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Re: cc vs bcc screwup

2004-07-09 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo jwayne,

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 17:02:47 -0400GMT (9-7-2004, 23:02 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

J I recently messed up and sent out a newsletter using a group list in cc versus bcc.
J Took _so_ much care in preparing and testing, only to screw-up with the final
J version. Feel REALLY stupid.

Next time use the mass mailing feature. That way each recipient gets
his own message without any other recipients listed. Besides that, you
can personalise the messages with mass mailing: things like Hi %ToFName
work.

-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies 
or rabbits.



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