Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-13 Thread Urban
Friday, June 11, 2004, Thomas Fernandez wrote: U I do that using the mouse-wheel, so I have to do a mousy-click U first and then move my hand to the keyboard. So your %Cursor macro should still be above the %Quotes macro, or not? I prefer to have it under. Saves me a little bit of work when I

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Urban, On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 03:09:53 +0200 GMT (11/06/2004, 08:09 +0700 GMT), Urban wrote: No, I'm not. But my cursor is indeed set before the quotes, and I delete or not and write my replies while I go along. U Didn't think of that. But I can see the sense in it. Just move down U using

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Urban, On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:13:01 +0200 GMT (10/06/2004, 00:13 +0700 GMT), Urban wrote: %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hallo %TFName %Cursor %Quotes U Advocating top-posting now, are we? (tsk tsk) U SCNR No, I'm not. But my cursor is indeed set before the quotes, and I delete or

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-10 Thread Cyrille
Hello Robin, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 11:52:31 PM, you wrote: There seems to be a conflict between different QT or a bug with the %LANGUAGE macro. I did not narrow down yet what might be the reason. I think I will start a new thread with this question. RA Good idea! RA When I am trying to

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-10 Thread Robin Anson
On Fri 11 June 2004, 7:46:27 +1000, Cyrille wrote: Another question about the SetLanguage QT: What exactly does the QT when I reply to a sender which is *not* in my AB? I looked back through this thread, and I think the answer is that it uses a default of setting the language to AM. You could

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-10 Thread Urban
Thursday, June 10, 2004, Thomas Fernandez wrote: U Advocating top-posting now, are we? (tsk tsk) SCNR No, I'm not. But my cursor is indeed set before the quotes, and I delete or not and write my replies while I go along. Didn't think of that. But I can see the sense in it. Just move down

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-09 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Cyrille, On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 23:49:43 +0200 GMT (07/06/2004, 04:49 +0700 GMT), Cyrille wrote: C What do you mean with manually? I use it in QT. C And I see it in many places at the end, and not at the beginning of a line. Let's say your QT looks like this: %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-09 Thread Urban
Wednesday, June 9, 2004, Thomas Fernandez wrote: %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hallo %TFName %Cursor %Quotes Advocating top-posting now, are we? (tsk tsk) SCNR snippeti-do-da Help / Index / Macros / Full alphabetic list / Dash macro. No! It's gone! :-( It's there, the first one,

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-08 Thread Cyrille
Hello Robin and Roelof, The problem seems to be solved. Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 12:20:51 AM, you wrote: RA I agree with Roelof's suggestions: RA* put before the %- in each of the %If statements in the RA master_new_message QT This works the line which disappeard is back again now. RA

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-08 Thread Robin Anson
On Tue 8 June 2004, 16:31:41 +1000, Cyrille wrote: The problem seems to be solved. Excellent RA* include %- at the end of the final %If statement in the RA master_new_message QT This part does not seem to have an influence on the output. RA And if you omit the %- after RA

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-08 Thread Cyrille
Hello Robin, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 9:47:14 AM, you wrote: RA And if you omit the %- after RA%If:%_SetLang=PL:%QInclude(new_PL): RA you will find you have one extra blank line in your Polish messages. With or without %- same result. The Polish messages behave like all the others... RA Even

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-08 Thread Robin Anson
On Tue 8 June 2004, 20:15:18 +1000, Cyrille wrote: The first tests do not look well. During the last two hours I crashed TB exactly nine times (got frozen and I had to kill it). There seems to be a conflict between different QT or a bug with the %LANGUAGE macro. I did not narrow down yet what

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-07 Thread Robin Anson
On Mon 7 June 2004, 15:15:24 +1000, Cyrille wrote: At the end of the QT I omitted also the # at the end of the last code line. Ah, yes I see now. I hadn't noticed that previously. What is this # good for? The %If macro works like this: %If:var1comparison operatorvar2:action if true:action

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-07 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Cyrille, On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 07:15:24 +0200GMT (7-6-04, 7:15 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C At the end of the QT I omitted also the # at the end of the last code C line. That's isn't a very good idea. You'd better put it back. C What is this # good for? It's a delimiter, just like

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-07 Thread Cyrille
Hello Robin, Monday, June 7, 2004, 9:41:40 AM, you wrote: What *exactly* does %-? RA It tells TB! to ignore a following new line (i.e. a blank line). RA It will also mark the end of a macro if there might be ambiguity about RA where the end is. (...) RA When TB! processed that, each line would

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-07 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Cyrille, On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:18:42 +0200GMT (7-6-04, 15:18 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C %If:%_SetLang=AM:%QInclude(new_EN):%- Try to insert behind every last colon or omit every trailing colon. It looks like the %if statement are grabbing some extra text, since the editor thinks

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-07 Thread Robin Anson
On Mon 7 June 2004, 23:18:42 +1000, Cyrille wrote: But now I happen to have the problem the other way around!!! Lines disappear which should be there. With my several levels of nested QT it seems that one of the QT swallows lines of the others. But I could not determine where it comes from:

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-06 Thread Cyrille
Hello Robin, Saturday, June 5, 2004, 3:25:40 AM, you wrote: RA I'm sure it will be lines in a QT that don't have the %- at the end. What exactly does *- do ? [20 min browsing through the help file did not give any answer.] -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.10.01,

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Cyrille, On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 19:31:44 +0200 GMT (07/06/2004, 00:31 +0700 GMT), Cyrille wrote: RA I'm sure it will be lines in a QT that don't have the %- at the end. C What exactly does *- do ? *- does nothing. %- suppresses the new line that you manually enter after it. -- Cheers,

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-06 Thread Cyrille
Hello Thomas, Sunday, June 6, 2004, 7:44:19 PM, you wrote: TF *- does nothing. %- suppresses the new line that you manually TF enter after it. Sorry for my mistyping. But still did not get the point. What do you mean with manually? I use it in QT. And I see it in many places at the end, and not

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-06 Thread Cyrille
Hello Robin, Saturday, June 5, 2004, 3:25:40 AM, you wrote: RA Hmm, I'm sure it will be lines in a QT that don't have the %- at the end. RA Perhaps there are some blank lines that should have a %-. Check that RA there are no blank lines at the end of a QT. These may not be obvious RA until you

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-06 Thread Robin Anson
On Mon 7 June 2004, 8:05:59 +1000, Cyrille wrote: (2) [ SetLanguage QT ] %REM=^%- Set language based on recipient's addressbook memo entry containing a line starting Language: followed by the language code If this doesn't exist, use the TLD in the recipient's address ^%- %-

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-06 Thread Cyrille
Hello Robin, Monday, June 7, 2004, 2:37:25 AM, you wrote: RA What you have done at the end of line 10 is correct. It actually appears RA to be line 11 if you count the blank line at the beginning. At the end of the QT I omitted also the # at the end of the last code line. What is this # good

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-05 Thread MAU
Hello Cyrille, Do you have another idea what could be the reason? I fully concur with what Robin Anson tells you in his reply. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.11.02 |

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-04 Thread Cyrille
Hello MAU, Wednesday, June 2, 2004, 1:54:06 AM, you wrote: M Include %- without the quote marks at the end of each QINCLUDE line. I went through all my QT. The %- are all there. But I still have my empty lines before the greeting in all my generated messages. Do you have another idea what

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-04 Thread Robin Anson
On Sat 5 June 2004, 8:38:14 +1000, Cyrille wrote: I went through all my QT. The %- are all there. But I still have my empty lines before the greeting in all my generated messages. Hmm, I'm sure it will be lines in a QT that don't have the %- at the end. Perhaps there are some blank lines that

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-01 Thread Robin Anson
On Tue 1 June 2004, 7:24:05 +1000, Cyrille wrote: I am wondering what is the best way to use it also for Reply and Forward templates? Of course, it would be possible create three QT SetLanguage like the one you described: %SetLanguage1 calls the templates for New Messages. %SetLanguage2

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-01 Thread Cyrille
Hello Robin, Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 1:47:13 PM, you wrote: RA ... RA This would allow you to have: RA* one SetLanguage QT, RA* one master template for new messages RA* one master template for replies RA* one master template for forwarding RA Then each language that you want to

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-01 Thread MAU
Hello Cyrille, My impression is that each %QINCLUDE(xxx) line in the templates provokes a line feed in the final output. How can I avoid this? Include %- without the quote marks at the end of each QINCLUDE line. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03

Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-01 Thread Robin Anson
On Wed 2 June 2004, 8:36:51 +1000, Cyrille wrote: RA You might also find that the first part of the reply and forwarding templates RA for each language is simply the new message template for that language. I am not sure whether I understand how you mean this. Let me show by an example. For

Re[2]: multi-language templates

2004-05-31 Thread Cyrille
Hello Robin, Wednesday, May 26, 2004, 2:19:12 AM, you wrote: RA You would need to create Reply and Forward RA message templates in a similar way. However, it shouldn't be too RA difficult to do. Your proposition (mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) works very well. But for the moment I have it working only

Re: multi-language templates

2004-05-26 Thread Robin Anson
On Wed 26 May 2004, 10:19:12 +1000, I wrote: 2. Create SetLanguage QT to select an appropriate language like this [ SetLanguage QT ] %REM=^%- Set language based on recipient's addressbook memo entry containing a line starting Language: followed by the language code If this doesn't

Re[2]: multi-language templates

2004-05-25 Thread Cyrille
Hello Robin, Monday, May 24, 2004, 5:00:53 AM, you wrote: raoca If you want to set a language for existing addressbook entries (as raoca opposed to being able to set a language in a reply to a previously raoca unknown sender), one approach would be to use the addressbook memo field Is there a

Re: multi-language templates

2004-05-25 Thread Robin Anson
On Wed 26 May 2004, 4:31:03 +1000, Cyrille wrote: Is there a (semi-)automated way to insert such a line in hundreds of AB entries? If the addressbook entries do not already have information in the memo field, you can select multiple entries, and then Edit-Properties and select the memo tab to

Re: multi-language templates

2004-05-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Roelof, On Sat, 22 May 2004 20:13:30 +0200 GMT (23/05/2004, 01:13 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: RO I'll readily admit that there probably is some language recognizing RO software, but that would a bit of specialized stuff. Word on XP Pro kept switchign from EN to DE when I wrote a

Re[2]: multi-language templates

2004-05-23 Thread Cyrille
Hello Roelof, Saturday, May 22, 2004, 8:13:30 PM, you wrote: C My question: I would like TB to choose automatically C * the right language template, according to the domain extension C of the recipients address. (But what should happen in case of .com C or .net domains?) RO Can be done with a

Re: multi-language templates

2004-05-23 Thread robin . anson
On Mon 24 May 2004, 4:20:23 +1000, Cyrille wrote: I am not very keen on manually inserting the country field in the AB for my 800 contacts. Because this solution is not much better than analyzing the email address. It is true that in many cases it is possible to say country = language , but

multi-language templates

2004-05-22 Thread Cyrille
Hello , I am thinking about making TB my default mail client. But I am not yet convinced. My decision depends on whether I find a solution for the following problem: My situation: I have to handle mail in 6 European languages and (at least) 3 different charsets. My question: I would like TB to

Re: multi-language templates

2004-05-22 Thread MAU
Hello Cyrille, Is this possible? If yes, how? Important: I don't want different folders for different languages. My folders are organized by topic. Does somebody out there has some other hints what could be helpful in dealing with mail in multiple languages? It is possible to a certain

Re: multi-language templates

2004-05-22 Thread MAU
Hello Cyrille, I forgot to say a couple of things in my previous message. Talking about using AB or Groups templates, you can create in you AB a groups for each language and then, when you include someone new in your AB assign him/her to the appropriate group. The main reason I use the help of

Re: multi-language templates

2004-05-22 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Cyrille, On Sat, 22 May 2004 18:08:26 +0200GMT (22-5-04, 18:08 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C I am thinking about making TB my default mail client. Good choice. C My situation: I have to handle mail in 6 European languages and (at C least) 3 different charsets. That should offer no

Re: multi-language templates

2004-05-22 Thread MAU
Hello Roelof, C - Reply / Forward templates: according to the language used in the C original message. Forget about that. That's impossible. Without too much trouble I can device a message (that won't make any sense, but that isn't the point) that includes twenty words that can be found in

Re: multi-language templates

2004-05-22 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo MAU, On Sat, 22 May 2004 20:41:11 +0200GMT (22-5-04, 20:41 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C - Reply / Forward templates: according to the language used in the C original message. Forget about that. That's impossible. Without too much trouble I can M POPFile works a treat if you train