Re: smtp auth: what am I missing?

2007-05-09 Thread WL

Hello, all.

On 5/8/07, Luc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Good afternoon Roelof,

It was foretold that on 8/5/2007 @ 16:59:22 GMT+0200 (which was
11:59:22 where I live) Roelof Otten would write:

snipped a bit

RO My smtp setting for gmail are:


Mine are:

SMTP Server: smtp.gmail.com


Grr... tired of futzing with this. I recreated the imap account
with the exact same settings, and outgoing email works
on the newly created account. Not sure what's going on...

Now, to copy over my template settings

Thanks for the suggestions and help,

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Re: smtp auth: what am I missing?

2007-05-08 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo WL,

On Mon, 7 May 2007 19:28:54 -0500GMT (8-5-2007, 2:28 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

W In the account properties, I have the smtp server using TLS.
W The port is set to 465. In the authentication button, I
W have Perform SMTP Authentication checked, with the specific
W settings selected.

Try 'use same settings as mail retrieval'

W   [18:49:11]  C: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
W   [18:49:11]  S: 530 authentication required - for help go to
W http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/sbc/dsl/mail/pop/pop-11.html

Did you follow that link?


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Re: smtp auth: what am I missing?

2007-05-08 Thread WL

On 5/8/07, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hallo WL,

On Mon, 7 May 2007 19:28:54 -0500GMT (8-5-2007, 2:28 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

W In the account properties, I have the smtp server using TLS.
W The port is set to 465. In the authentication button, I
W have Perform SMTP Authentication checked, with the specific
W settings selected.

Try 'use same settings as mail retrieval'


In this case, the credentials have to be different. The ISP
blocks outgoing smtp traffic unless it goes through the ISP's
SMTP server.

Regardless of what username and password is used, the log
indicates the smtp authentication is not happening. I expected
to see something like

 C: AUTH LOGIN

before the MAIL FROM: line, or even

 C: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] AUTH=blahblah

but I don't see anything like that.


W   [18:49:11]  C: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
W   [18:49:11]  S: 530 authentication required - for help go to
W http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/sbc/dsl/mail/pop/pop-11.html

Did you follow that link?


Yes. It says to enable smtp authentication.

Hopefully, the cut sign will be intact

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Re: smtp auth: what am I missing?

2007-05-08 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo WL,

On Tue, 8 May 2007 06:54:20 -0500GMT (8-5-2007, 13:54 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

W In this case, the credentials have to be different. The ISP
W blocks outgoing smtp traffic unless it goes through the ISP's
W SMTP server.

Often they're only blocking port 25. I see that you're using gmail and
they're using a different port. You could try to reach them.

BTW Can you send mail via your regular mail account at your ISP?

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Re: smtp auth: what am I missing?

2007-05-08 Thread WL

On 5/8/07, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 8 May 2007 06:54:20 -0500GMT (8-5-2007, 13:54 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

W In this case, the credentials have to be different. The ISP
W blocks outgoing smtp traffic unless it goes through the ISP's
W SMTP server.

Often they're only blocking port 25. I see that you're using gmail and
they're using a different port. You could try to reach them.


Same problem: gmail says I need to be authorized first. Here's
the log using gmail's smtp server.

 [07:43:34]  C: Connected to smtp.gmail.com, port 465
 [07:43:34]  S: 220 mx.google.com ESMTP f24sm14853661pyh
 [07:43:36]  C: EHLO WL
 [07:43:36]  S: 250-mx.google.com at your service, [65.42.208.133]
 [07:43:36]  S: 250-SIZE 28311552
 [07:43:36]  S: 250-8BITMIME
 [07:43:36]  S: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN
 [07:43:36]  S: 250 ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
 [07:43:36]  C: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=305
 [07:43:36]  S: 530 5.5.1 Authentication Required f24sm14853661pyh
 [07:43:36]  C: RSET
 [07:43:36]  S: 250 2.1.0 Flushed f24sm14853661pyh
 [07:43:36]  C: QUIT

Again, no AUTH.


BTW Can you send mail via your regular mail account at your ISP?


Oddly enough, I can. Here's the smtp log from that:

 [07:49:56]  C: Connected to smtp.att.yahoo.com, port 465
 [07:49:56]  S: 220 smtp113.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com ESMTP
 [07:49:58]  C: EHLO WL
 [07:49:58]  S: 250-smtp113.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com
 [07:49:58]  S: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN XYMCOOKIE
 [07:49:58]  S: 250-PIPELINING
 [07:49:58]  S: 250 8BITMIME
 [07:49:58]  C: AUTH PLAIN
 [07:49:58]  S: 334 ok, go on
 [07:49:59]  S: 235 ok, go ahead (#2.0.0)

yay, auth... I went through and double checked the settings but
I still can't send email out. The only difference that may matter
is the non-sending account is really IMAP, and the second
account is POP. Having said that, I'm not sure how why or how it
would make a difference...

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Re: smtp auth: what am I missing?

2007-05-08 Thread WL

Sorry, just a random sig test...

On 5/8/07, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snippaged]


Sig yes? It's weird... I thought it worked
before...  and emails sent to myself seem
to have the trailing space...

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Re: smtp auth: what am I missing?

2007-05-08 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo WL,

On Tue, 8 May 2007 08:10:32 -0500GMT (8-5-2007, 15:10 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

 Often they're only blocking port 25. I see that you're using gmail and
 they're using a different port. You could try to reach them.

W Same problem: gmail says I need to be authorized first. Here's
W the log using gmail's smtp server.

W   [07:43:34]  C: Connected to smtp.gmail.com, port 465
W   [07:43:34]  S: 220 mx.google.com ESMTP f24sm14853661pyh
W   [07:43:36]  C: EHLO WL
W   [07:43:36]  S: 250-mx.google.com at your service, [65.42.208.133]
W   [07:43:36]  S: 250-SIZE 28311552
W   [07:43:36]  S: 250-8BITMIME
W   [07:43:36]  S: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN
W   [07:43:36]  S: 250 ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
W   [07:43:36]  C: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=305
W   [07:43:36]  S: 530 5.5.1 Authentication Required f24sm14853661pyh

Yes, that's definitely different from my gmail account (for testing
purposes only) That shows:

[16:17:40]  C: Connected to smtp.gmail.com, port 465
[16:17:40]  S: 220 mx.google.com ESMTP z40sm791870ugc
[16:17:40]  C: EHLO BASILISK
[16:17:40]  S: 250-mx.google.com at your service, [217.122.181.180]
[16:17:40]  S: 250-SIZE 28311552
[16:17:40]  S: 250-8BITMIME
[16:17:40]  S: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN
[16:17:40]  S: 250 ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
[16:17:40]  C: AUTH PLAIN
[16:17:40]  S: 334 
[16:17:40]  C: Some gobbledygook
[16:17:41]  S: 235 2.7.0 Accepted
[16:17:41]  C: MAIL FROM:myaddress SIZE=475
[16:17:41]  S: 250 2.1.0 OK
[16:17:41]  C: RCPT TO:myaddress
[16:17:41]  S: 250 2.1.5 OK
[16:17:41]  C: DATA
[16:17:41]  S: 354 Go ahead

My smtp setting for gmail are:

SMTP Server: smtp.gmail.com
Connection: Secure to dedicated port (TLS)
Port: 465
Authentication:'Perform SMTP Authentication'  and  'Same user/password
as for Mail Retrieval' selected and nothing else.


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Re: smtp auth: what am I missing?

2007-05-08 Thread Luc
Good afternoon Roelof,
  
It was foretold that on 8/5/2007 @ 16:59:22 GMT+0200 (which was
11:59:22 where I live) Roelof Otten would write:
  
snipped a bit

RO My smtp setting for gmail are:

RO SMTP Server: smtp.gmail.com
RO Connection: Secure to dedicated port (TLS)
RO Port: 465
RO Authentication:'Perform SMTP Authentication'  and  'Same user/password
RO as for Mail Retrieval' selected and nothing else.  


Mine are:

SMTP Server: smtp.gmail.com
Connection: Secure to regular port (STARTTLS)
Port: 587
Authentication:'Perform SMTP Authentication'  and  'use specific
settings'

Might seem strange but initially i had problems sending mail and
fiddled with the settings... after 3 days, out of the blue, gmail
decided to go along with it and works fine now. Seems gmail needs some
time to think about it 

HTH
 
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smtp auth: what am I missing?

2007-05-07 Thread WL

Hello, all.

With TB! 3.99.3, I seem to be unable to use smtp
authentication. I'm getting a ``must first authenticate
message'' from the server. I must be missing something...

In the account properties, I have the smtp server using TLS.
The port is set to 465. In the authentication button, I
have Perform SMTP Authentication checked, with the specific
settings selected. I've tried tests with and without the
``Require secure authentication'' selected but the results
seem the same.

The protocol logs say:

 [18:49:11]  C: Connected to smtp.att.yahoo.com, port 465
 [18:49:11]  S: 220 smtp104.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com ESMTP
 [18:49:11]  C: EHLO X
 [18:49:11]  S: 250-smtp104.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com
 [18:49:11]  S: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN XYMCOOKIE
 [18:49:11]  S: 250-PIPELINING
 [18:49:11]  S: 250 8BITMIME
 [18:49:11]  C: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [18:49:11]  S: 530 authentication required - for help go to
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/sbc/dsl/mail/pop/pop-11.html
 [18:49:11]  C: RSET
 [18:49:11]  C: QUIT

It doesn't even seem to be performing the AUTH step.

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