Re[2]: someone use v2 on NT4?

2003-09-17 Thread Wilfried Mestdagh
Hello Mark,

MW You might think about updating your OS. Windows NT4 support is being
MW phased out by Microsoft, and as of 1 January 2005 you won't even be
MW able to get online fixes or support.NT4 is no longer available for
MW sale through any Microsoft channel.

  But in most companies they will not upgrade there machines until it is
  absolutely nececery. Many copanies even dont upgraded patches or service
  packs. Wy should they? It only cost time and money...

  Meaning that NT will be still alive for a long time...

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Re: someone use v2 on NT4?

2003-09-17 Thread Martin Webster
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Hello Wilfried,

Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 8:49:53 AM, you wrote:

WM Hello Mark,

MW You might think about updating your OS. Windows NT4 support is being
MW phased out by Microsoft, and as of 1 January 2005 you won't even be
MW able to get online fixes or support.NT4 is no longer available for
MW sale through any Microsoft channel.

WM   But in most companies they will not upgrade there machines until it is
WM   absolutely nececery. Many copanies even dont upgraded patches or service
WM   packs. Wy should they? It only cost time and money...

Do these companies leave their doors open when they go home at night
too? May just as well. Not addressing security vulnerabilities is rather
short sighted, foolhardy, and potentially _very_ expensive.

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Re: someone use v2 on NT4?

2003-09-17 Thread Mark Wieder
Wilfried-

Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 12:49:53 AM, you wrote:

WM   But in most companies they will not upgrade there machines until it is
WM   absolutely nececery. Many copanies even dont upgraded patches or service
WM   packs. Wy should they? It only cost time and money...

WM   Meaning that NT will be still alive for a long time...

YMMV, but when it comes down to program x doesn't work with my OS
and you *need* program x to work, I would say it's time to look into
upgrading. For what it's worth, Windows 2000 is NT5.

I'm not saying you should change your OS just because a new one is out
there (remember WinME?), but I *am* saying that I think it's
unreasonable to expect every software developer to support older
operating systems explicitly when even MS no longer does.

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Re: someone use v2 on NT4?

2003-09-16 Thread Mark Wieder
Wilfried-

Monday, September 15, 2003, 1:09:19 PM, you wrote:

WM   If I develop a new software is is tested on all stable OS. I assume I have to
WM   downgrade and wait until TB is testet in NT ? if they ever wants to do..

WM   The sorry thing is that I have payed for the upgrade :(

You might think about updating your OS. Windows NT4 support is being
phased out by Microsoft, and as of 1 January 2005 you won't even be
able to get online fixes or support. NT4 is no longer available for
sale through any Microsoft channel. Expecting third-party developers
to go out of their way to support an OS that Microsoft itself won't
support anymore is asking a bit much.

http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/Availability/Retiring.asp

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Re[2]: someone use v2 on NT4?

2003-09-16 Thread DG Raftery Sr.
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Tuesday, September 16, 2003
1:54:40 PM (GMT -05:00)
RE: someone use v2 on NT4?

Greetings Mark,

On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 3:07:20 AM, you wrote:

Mark You might think about updating your OS. Windows NT4 support is being
Mark phased out by Microsoft, and as of 1 January 2005 you won't even be
Mark able to get online fixes or support. NT4 is no longer available for
Mark sale through any Microsoft channel. Expecting third-party developers
Mark to go out of their way to support an OS that Microsoft itself won't
Mark support anymore is asking a bit much.

And just like they did with Win98 they extended the support life just
prior to EOL. Before I made any major changes I would wait 6 months
prior to 1 January 2005 and see if Microsoft extends the support
cycle.

Anyway ...

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someone use v2 on NT4?

2003-09-15 Thread Wilfried Mestdagh
Hello,

  Is someone here using version 2 of TB on windows NT4 SP6a ?

  I ask because I checked many messages here listing their OS, and see nobody
  with NT, and I'm still having that AV with v2.

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Re: someone use v2 on NT4?

2003-09-15 Thread Wilfried Mestdagh
Hello Wilfried,

WM   Is someone here using version 2 of TB on windows NT4 SP6a ?

  So I think I can make already conclusion :(
  
  If I develop a new software is is tested on all stable OS. I assume I have to
  downgrade and wait until TB is testet in NT ? if they ever wants to do..

  The sorry thing is that I have payed for the upgrade :(

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Re: someone use v2 on NT4?

2003-09-15 Thread Martin Webster
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Hello Wilfried,

Monday, September 15, 2003, 2:04:49 PM, you wrote:

WM   Is someone here using version 2 of TB on windows NT4 SP6a ?

WM   I ask because I checked many messages here listing their OS, and see nobody
WM   with NT, and I'm still having that AV with v2.

A quick search of my archive shows a few using version 2 with Windows
NT.

WM --
WM Rgds, Wilfried

BTW, your new message template is missing a space after the -- in your
signature. Your reply template looks okay.

M
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