18 April 2002, 19:14, you wrote:
After that, I took steps to ensure that those
reading my messages could verify their legitimacy.
I've just opened the certificate on your email and all it tells me is
that it's valid. So what? If I'm suspicious about your post then I can
get more information
Hello Allie!
On Wednesday, April 17, 2002 at 7:53:23 PM you wrote:
you're perfectly entitled to your opinion.
But since when are we?
Don't ask me where I'd picked that up, I just remember it was in a
very good war movie ...
BTW, since when is it in order to question moderatorial functions
Hello Greg,
On Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 22:13:14 -0500, you wrote concerning
'square brackets and rfc822':
...
By people using privacy software to sign their e-mail sets a good
example.
I never have problems with PGP-signed mails too. I even used to sign
my mailinglist mail, but due
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@ 10:12:48 +0200 [ Thu, 18 Apr 2002], Dierk Haasis [DH] wrote:
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you're perfectly entitled to your opinion.
DH But since when are we?
DH Don't ask me where I'd picked that up, I just remember it was in a
DH very good war movie ...
DH BTW, since
Hello Allie!
On Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 12:38:14 PM you wrote:
It may be just you. vbg
Thank goodness!
Everyone has always been welcome to question what we do and why we do
it. However, it's one thing to question what we do and another to just
'lash out' at it, not questioning it
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@ 13:38:57 +0200 [ Thu, 18 Apr 2002], Dierk Haasis [DH] wrote:
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A difficult but possible balance it is, once each member appreciates
that they're in an wonderfully international list with many members
who don't speak English as a first language
Hello Allie,
A difficult but possible balance it is, once each member appreciates
that they're in an wonderfully international list with many members
who don't speak English as a first language (Dierk isn't one of
those members g) and who have different cultural styles, values,
personal
On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, 11:23 PM, you wrote:
GS When in the message list select the collapsed message, then
GS Cntl+Plus. I like you am learning TB! and yet to find all help
GS screens with various short cuts. If someone knows of one or more
GS please list the help topics so I can
Hello Paul,
Thursday, April 18, 2002, 7:40:58 AM, you wrote:
PC Here you find all the shortcuts you need:
PC http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html
I think all shortcuts should be documented in help, but this is better
than nothing? Thanks for the link!
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Greg
Allie,
It's just that no is saying you shouldn't either.
Obviously not! g The problem is that such a large proportion of the
messages on TB lists suffer from an overabundance of autogenerated
fluff.
Marck gave what I consider a valid
reason for signing
PGP (or similar) sigs are
David,
When I start reading a mailinglist message I start with the quoted
material or when I know the contents of the quotes I even start with
the text below the quotes.
Well, obviously that is what I try to do too. The problem is that it
is not always clear where the actual message content
Hello Ian,
The problem is that such a large proportion of the messages on TB
lists suffer from an overabundance of autogenerated fluff.
Fully agree.
In the context of the list, a PGP sig only proves someone is capable
of installing and using PGP, and little else
With full respect for
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Hello Ian,
Thursday, April 18, 2002, 11:48:43 AM, you wrote:
IP In the context of the list, a PGP sig only
IP proves someone is capable of installing and using PGP, and little
else.
Agreed.
A PC is nothing more than a tool. I look at signatures
Greg,
agree to disagree
Right! g
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Dierk,
a) a message and a mail address belong together, and
b) a message has not been tinkered with.
They are both important things in many, if not most, email situations.
But I still maintain they are irrelevent on an informal public discussion list.
There are good reasons to use PGP ...
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On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, at 19:09:39 +0200 Miguel wrote:
The problem is that such a large proportion of the messages on TB
lists suffer from an overabundance of autogenerated fluff.
MAU Fully agree.
In the context of the list, a PGP sig only
Hello Adam,
On Wednesday, February 11, 1970 at 3:47:25 AM you wrote (at least in
part):
[...]
an if the person that was pretending to be marck offered advice which
an helped then where is the damage?
an i expect that anyone that is shrewd enough to use TB over other inferior
an email clients,
Hello adam!
On Wednesday, February 11, 1970 at 3:47:25 AM you wrote:
even if someone did (which in itself is a very unlikely thing which
could be avoided by putting a filter into the actual registration
process of joining this list), if the person that was pretending to be
marck offered
Marck,
I'm the moderator here. When I make a statement it needs to be
verifiably from me.
Don't you think you are taking your role here a little too seriously?
After all, we are not talking trade secrets here or national security.
I have been a member of scores of mailing-lists in the ten
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Ian Petersen [IP] wrote:
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IP Don't you think you are taking your role here a little too
IP seriously? After all, we are not talking trade secrets here or
IP national security. I have been a member of scores of mailing-lists
IP in the ten years
Hi Ian,
on Wed, 17 Apr 2002 18:34:59 +0200GMT (which was 17.04.02, 18:34 +0200GMT
where I live), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
IP The flow of a mailing list is very important - being able to easily
IP and quickly follow a conversation thread. Interruptions in the form
On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, 12:53:23 PM, Allie C Martin wrote:
Well I could make some adjustments there. How's my intro line for
instance? Do you like it? :-)
I think the date and time are helpful, because you can track to which of
that sender's messages you are responding. (Threading does
Hello Ian,
The flow of a mailing list is very important - being able to easily
and quickly follow a conversation thread. Interruptions in the form of
unneccessary felicitations, dates, quotes, cookies and signatures just
make the conversations less easy to follow and thus less useful for
Hello Dwight,
I think the date and time are helpful, because you can track to which of
that sender's messages you are responding. (Threading does the trick
here but I'm on lots of lists where threading by reference just makes
it harder to track, not easier.)
But in this list we are all (or
Hello Peter,
on Wed, 17 Apr 2002 18:34:59 +0200GMT (which was 17.04.02, 18:34 +0200GMT
where I live),
Something is wring with your time calculation macros. 18:34:59
somewhere can never be 17.04.02 somewhere else. ;-)
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Hello Dwight,
can never be 17.04.02 somewhere else. ;-)
except on the 17th day of April, 2002
Oooops! It's obvious I took that as time, and not as a date :-(
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Using The Bat! v1.60c
On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, 4:19 PM, you wrote:
MAU Hello Dwight,
I think the date and time are helpful, because you can track to which of
that sender's messages you are responding. (Threading does the trick
here but I'm on lots of lists where threading by reference just makes
it harder
Hello Paul,
I did a quick search and I couldn't figure out how to change the
message folder for TBUDL to thread by reference.
View/View Threads by/Reference or Alt+1
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Using The Bat! v1.60c
On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, 6:27 PM, you wrote:
MAU Hello Paul,
I did a quick search and I couldn't figure out how to change the
message folder for TBUDL to thread by reference.
MAU View/View Threads by/Reference or Alt+1
thank you !
so, now that I have them threaded that way, it
Hello Ian,
On Wednesday, April 17, 2002 at 18:34:59 +0200, you wrote concerning
'square brackets and rfc822':
...
Interruptions in the form of unneccessary felicitations, dates,
quotes, cookies and signatures just make the conversations less easy
to follow and thus less useful for everyone
Hello Paul,
I can see where this would make sense, and it looks a lot easier to
wander through !
Yeap, that is the idea, to make it easy to follow a conversation or
thread. And that is why quoting in replies can be kept to a minimum.
I'm liking this more and more,
:-))
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On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, 8:24 PM, you wrote:
MAU Hello Paul,
I can see where this would make sense, and it looks a lot easier to
wander through !
MAU Yeap, that is the idea, to make it easy to follow a conversation or
MAU thread. And that is why quoting in replies can be kept to a
Hello David,
Wednesday, April 17, 2002, 6:35:57 PM, you wrote:
DvZ PMFJI but I don't understand this, because I never read this
DvZ stuff unless I need it. When I start reading a mailinglist
DvZ message I start with the quoted material or when I know the
DvZ contents of the quotes I even start
Hello Paul,
Wednesday, April 17, 2002, 7:33:21 PM, you wrote:
PC is there an easy way to open up an entier thread ? without hitting all
PC the PLUS signs ? I already opened a NEW thread on navigating, but I
PC didn't ask this particular question G
When in the message list select the collapsed
i'm not sure if this is a known bug but it's causing me grief:
when i try to send a mail to an IP address such as
test@[122.11.11.11]
TB insists on changing the address to
test@[122\.11\.11\.11]
and fails to send the mail with
Syntax error in parameters or
Hello Adam,
On Tuesday, April 16, 2002 at 6:36:01 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):
a when i try to send a mail to an IP address such as
atest@[122.11.11.11]
a TB insists on changing the address to
atest@[122\.11\.11\.11]
Dito
Hello Peter,
P.S.: please include a signature delimiter in your posts, even if you don't
have anything you'd call a signature. This will automatically cut of the
list footer when replying :-)
Wouldn't it be better that the list footer itself included the
signature delimiter itself, just in
On Tuesday, April 16, 2002, 11:27:41 AM, Miguel A. Urech wrote:
Wouldn't it be better that the list footer itself included the
signature delimiter itself, just in case some of us don't? Maybe
list owner or moderators can do something about it.
It was just recently removed, because only the
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Hi Miguel,
@16 April 2002, 18:27:41 +0200 (17:27 UK time) Miguel A. Urech wrote
in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wouldn't it be better that the list footer itself included the
signature delimiter itself, just in case some of us don't?
Hello Miguel,
On Tuesday, April 16, 2002 at 6:27:41 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):
P.S.: please include a signature delimiter in your posts, even if you don't
have anything you'd call a signature. This will automatically cut of the
list footer
Hello Miguel,
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 18:27:41 +0200GMT (16-4-02, 18:27 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:
P.S.: please include a signature delimiter in your posts, even if you don't
have anything you'd call a signature. This will automatically cut of the
list footer when replying :-)
MAU
Hello Marck,
We did! We took it *off* when TB behaviour changed to only use the
last delimiter...
OK, OK. I heard you, Roelof and Dwight :-) I forgot about that.
BTW Marck, If I do a normal reply to your message nothing is cut
off, your sig delimiter doesn't work ;-)
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Hello Miguel,
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 19:12:07 +0200GMT (16-4-02, 19:12 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:
MAU BTW Marck, If I do a normal reply to your message nothing is cut
MAU off, your sig delimiter doesn't work ;-)
That's that awful PGP, placing a dash space before the delimiter.
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Hi Miguel,
@16 April 2002, 19:12:07 +0200 (18:12 UK time) Miguel A. Urech wrote
in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
BTW Marck, If I do a normal reply to your message nothing is cut
off, your sig delimiter doesn't work ;-)
That's because
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Hi Marck,
on Tue, 16 Apr 2002 19:24:29 +0100GMT (which was 16.04.02, 20:24 +0200GMT
where I live), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:
BTW Marck, If I do a normal reply to your message nothing is cut
off, your sig delimiter
Hello Marck,
PGP splats the cut mark by prefacing it with an extra Dash
Space.
I see.
You have to adopt one of the macro-ised quote formatters that abound
on the FAQ to get round that.
No thanks. No more macros, templates or whatever. I usually quote just
small paragraphs by highlighting
Marck,
You have to adopt one of the macro-ised quote formatters that abound
on the FAQ to get round that.
Alternatively, you could stop inflicting the list with unnecessary PGP
signatures. Such things are not needed on an informal, public
discussion list.
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Hi Ian,
@16 April 2002, 23:51:42 +0200 (22:51 UK time) Ian Petersen wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alternatively, you could stop inflicting the list with unnecessary
PGP signatures. Such things are not needed on an informal,
Hello Ian,
On Tuesday, April 16, 2002 at 11:51:42 PM you wrote (at least in
part):
IP Alternatively, you could stop inflicting the list with unnecessary PGP
IP signatures. Such things are not needed on an informal, public
IP discussion list.
In general a good and respectable idea. Except the
sorry to have started this fracas but just to fan the flames a bit:
even if someone did (which in itself is a very unlikely thing which
could be avoided by putting a filter into the actual registration
process of joining this list), if the person that was pretending to be
marck offered
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