Re[2]: Leaving messages in inbox

2009-01-09 Thread Vili
JSL A long time ago there was a thread on the dangers of leaving messages
JSL in the inbox. Unfortunately I no longer remember exactly what the
JSL danger was. I searched the archives for the subject line above but
JSL found nothing explaining the problem. Does anybody remember?
RO Basically it comes to this.
RO The Inbox is a high traffic folder: every message that enters your
RO message base first arrives in the Inbox, moving and deleting
RO (automatically   and  manually)  means another mutation of your Inbox.
RO Due to these multiple mutations it's easy for things to go awry.
RO There's your first reason not to use the Inbox for permanent storage.
RO When  your  Inbox  is large it's more difficult to mutate it then when
RO it's  small,  so  using  the Inbox for permanent storage makes it more
RO likely for things to go awry.
RO Of course executing compress and purge daily minimises the chance that
RO things go bad.
RO I've  never had a corrupt Inbox, so I've never been bitten, but in the
RO past  the  issue  came up regularly. But why use a mail client with an
RO extensive  filtering  engine  like TB when you store everything in the
RO Inbox.

I  totally  agree with every word Roelof wrote. My addition: the only way I
saw  corrupted  Inboxes  (I  am a TB distributor) that people used the
Compress at exit. When I send the registration keys to users, this is
the information (in brief) I send them in the text of the mail before
the actual reg. code:

- switch off the Compress at exit forj all Inboxes, this is how you can
do it

- make manual compress of Inboxes at every two weeks, a month, based
on your email load

(I compress my folders every Sunday)

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Re: Leaving messages in inbox

2009-01-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jack,

On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 17:00:44 -0600 GMT (08/01/2009, 06:00 +0700 GMT),
Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

JSL A long time ago there was a thread on the dangers of leaving messages
JSL in the inbox. Unfortunately I no longer remember exactly what the
JSL danger was. I searched the archives for the subject line above but
JSL found nothing explaining the problem. Does anybody remember?

I remember. I think Marck was it who said at the time (must be years
since he was active on this list) that the Inbox is a high-traffic
list and therefore more likely to get corrupted than any other folder.
IIRC.


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Re: Leaving messages in inbox

2009-01-08 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jack,

On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 17:00:44 -0600GMT (8-1-2009, 0:00 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

JSL A long time ago there was a thread on the dangers of leaving messages
JSL in the inbox. Unfortunately I no longer remember exactly what the
JSL danger was. I searched the archives for the subject line above but
JSL found nothing explaining the problem. Does anybody remember?

Basically it comes to this.
The Inbox is a high traffic folder: every message that enters your
message base first arrives in the Inbox, moving and deleting
(automatically   and  manually)  means another mutation of your Inbox.
Due to these multiple mutations it's easy for things to go awry.
There's your first reason not to use the Inbox for permanent storage.
When  your  Inbox  is large it's more difficult to mutate it then when
it's  small,  so  using  the Inbox for permanent storage makes it more
likely for things to go awry.
Of course executing compress and purge daily minimises the chance that
things go bad.

I've  never had a corrupt Inbox, so I've never been bitten, but in the
past  the  issue  came up regularly. But why use a mail client with an
extensive  filtering  engine  like TB when you store everything in the
Inbox.

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Re: Leaving messages in inbox

2009-01-08 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Roelof,

Thursday, January 8, 2009, 11:09:50 AM, you wrote:

RO Hallo Jack,

RO On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 17:00:44 -0600GMT (8-1-2009, 0:00 +0100, where I
RO live), you wrote:

JSL A long time ago there was a thread on the dangers of leaving messages
JSL in the inbox. Unfortunately I no longer remember exactly what the
JSL danger was. I searched the archives for the subject line above but
JSL found nothing explaining the problem. Does anybody remember?

RO Basically it comes to this.
RO The Inbox is a high traffic folder: every message that enters your
RO message base first arrives in the Inbox, moving and deleting
RO (automatically   and  manually)  means another mutation of your Inbox.
RO Due to these multiple mutations it's easy for things to go awry.
RO There's your first reason not to use the Inbox for permanent storage.
RO When  your  Inbox  is large it's more difficult to mutate it then when
RO it's  small,  so  using  the Inbox for permanent storage makes it more
RO likely for things to go awry.
RO Of course executing compress and purge daily minimises the chance that
RO things go bad.

RO I've  never had a corrupt Inbox, so I've never been bitten, but in the
RO past  the  issue  came up regularly. But why use a mail client with an
RO extensive  filtering  engine  like TB when you store everything in the
RO Inbox.

First let me apologize for the double post (what, me senile?) on the
original question. Second, thanks to you and Thomas for answering the
question. To see it described as you and Thomas have done makes sense.
I remember the warning about this (though not the reason) from years
ago and I then promptly created a Faux inbox which is filled with all
incoming messages to the primary inbox by a filter. I just couldn't
remember why I did it.

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Leaving messages in inbox

2009-01-07 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Fellow list members,

A long time ago there was a thread on the dangers of leaving messages
in the inbox. Unfortunately I no longer remember exactly what the
danger was. I searched the archives for the subject line above but
found nothing explaining the problem. Does anybody remember?

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