Re: Problems with size (width) of HTML messages using internal viewer
Dear Richard, @30-Oct-2016, 9:29 + (30-Oct 09:59 here) Richard L de S Clauson [RLD] in mid:1285301168.20161030095...@virbius.co.uk said to TBUDL: ... >>> email ends up much wider than the message plane in the 3-plane layout I >>> use ... >>> I'm not certain of the release state of the fixed version. ... RLD> I've now upgraded from v6.8.8 to v7.3.12, but not all the "extra wide" RLD> emails are reformatted to fit inside the message pane of the triple-pane RLD> window. Most disappointed. At the time of writing HTML formatting had apparently been fixed in the latest versions. The BugTraq report has even been closed. Since then, I too have been disappointed to see images swelling the HTML again and have reported this to the developers. My apologies for the mislead - entirely unintentional, I assure you. I will be pressing RITlabs to re-open the bug report to allow further investigation of the issue. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v7.3.12.4 (BETA) on Windows 10.0.14393 pgpugLk5O4r0J.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems with size (width) of HTML messages using internal viewer
Saturday, September 24, 2016, 12:12:19 AM, Richard L de S Clauson (rich...@virbius.co.uk) wrote: > Thursday, September 22, 2016, 1:42:15 PM, Marck Pearlstone > (ma...@silverstones.com) wrote: >> Dear Richard, >> >> @22-Sep-2016, 6:03 +0100 (22-Sep 12:26 here) Richard L de S Clauson >> [RLD] in mid:967995112.20160922122...@virbius.co.uk said to TBUDL: >> >> ... >> >> email ends up much wider than the message plane in the 3-plane layout I >> use >> ... This is a bug in TB that was fixed 2 betas ago and is no longer an issue in the next release. >> RLD>>> Are you saying that if I now upgrade from 6.8.8 to 7.3.4 (the latest RLD>>> release) that emails formatted in the TheBat! HTML Viewer will look correct, RLD>>> and as good as those formatted in the Windows OS HTML Viewer? >> >> Essentially, yes. >> >> I wouldn't know whether or not they look "correct" since I haven't >> compared. All I can say for certain is that this specific bug was >> called out as a bug, addressed a month or so back in the beta version >> and has been fixed. This fix has improved my personal reading of HTML >> mails with embedded pictures to a point of near perfection rather than >> sprawling the message to the width of the largest picture and not >> scaling. >> >> I'm not certain of the release state of the fixed version. >> > > Marck, > > That sounds excellent news. One of my bug-bears with The Bat! was the way > that it sometimes failed to render an HTML email in a sufficiently readable > way when the sender was cavalier with the sizes of the images they supplied > and slack with the HTML code they used to define their output/display. > > I hope that this fix has also been replicated into the way emails are then > printed. Even if the Windows OS HTML Viewer rendering option is chosen the > printing rendering reverts back to that of The Bat! HTML Viewer rendering. > > I'll now put in for an Upgrade licence fron v6.x to v7.x. > > Thanks > Marck, I've now upgraded from v6.8.8 to v7.3.12, but not all the "extra wide" emails are reformatted to fit inside the message pane of the triple-pane window. Most disappointed. -- Richard L de S Clauson, 0118-956-7775 or 07710-412815 email:mailto:rich...@virbius.co.uk website: http://www.virbius.co.uk/ ( more is hidden than viewable ! ) Virbius Business, 0844-588-1397 (fax 0870-879-1562) Using The Bat! v7.3.12 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems with size (width) of HTML messages using internal viewer
Thursday, September 22, 2016, 1:42:15 PM, Marck Pearlstone (ma...@silverstones.com) wrote: > Dear Richard, > > @22-Sep-2016, 6:03 +0100 (22-Sep 12:26 here) Richard L de S Clauson > [RLD] in mid:967995112.20160922122...@virbius.co.uk said to TBUDL: > > ... > > email ends up much wider than the message plane in the 3-plane layout I > use > >>> ... This is a bug in TB that was fixed 2 betas ago and is no longer >>> an issue in the next release. > RLD>> Are you saying that if I now upgrade from 6.8.8 to 7.3.4 (the latest RLD>> release) that emails formatted in the TheBat! HTML Viewer will look correct, RLD>> and as good as those formatted in the Windows OS HTML Viewer? > > Essentially, yes. > > I wouldn't know whether or not they look "correct" since I haven't > compared. All I can say for certain is that this specific bug was > called out as a bug, addressed a month or so back in the beta version > and has been fixed. This fix has improved my personal reading of HTML > mails with embedded pictures to a point of near perfection rather than > sprawling the message to the width of the largest picture and not > scaling. > > I'm not certain of the release state of the fixed version. > Marck, That sounds excellent news. One of my bug-bears with The Bat! was the way that it sometimes failed to render an HTML email in a sufficiently readable way when the sender was cavalier with the sizes of the images they supplied and slack with the HTML code they used to define their output/display. I hope that this fix has also been replicated into the way emails are then printed. Even if the Windows OS HTML Viewer rendering option is chosen the printing rendering reverts back to that of The Bat! HTML Viewer rendering. I'll now put in for an Upgrade licence fron v6.x to v7.x. Thanks -- Richard L de S Clauson, 0118-956-7775 or 07710-412815 email:mailto:rich...@virbius.co.uk website: http://www.virbius.co.uk/ ( more is hidden than viewable ! ) Virbius Business, 0844-588-1397 (fax 0870-879-1562) Using The Bat! v6.8.8 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems with size (width) of HTML messages using internal viewer
Dear Richard, @22-Sep-2016, 6:03 +0100 (22-Sep 12:26 here) Richard L de S Clauson [RLD] in mid:967995112.20160922122...@virbius.co.uk said to TBUDL: ... email ends up much wider than the message plane in the 3-plane layout I use >> ... This is a bug in TB that was fixed 2 betas ago and is no longer >> an issue in the next release. RLD> Are you saying that if I now upgrade from 6.8.8 to 7.3.4 (the latest RLD> release) that emails formatted in the TheBat! HTML Viewer will look correct, RLD> and as good as those formatted in the Windows OS HTML Viewer? Essentially, yes. I wouldn't know whether or not they look "correct" since I haven't compared. All I can say for certain is that this specific bug was called out as a bug, addressed a month or so back in the beta version and has been fixed. This fix has improved my personal reading of HTML mails with embedded pictures to a point of near perfection rather than sprawling the message to the width of the largest picture and not scaling. I'm not certain of the release state of the fixed version. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v7.3.4.1 (BETA) on Windows 10.0.14393 ' pgp0DiXnTOJZq.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems with size (width) of HTML messages using internal viewer
Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 9:27:08 AM, Marck Pearlstone (ma...@silverstones.com) wrote: > Dear Richard, > > @13-Sep-2016, 0:41 +0100 (13-Sep 07:00 here) Richard L de S Clauson > [RLD] in mid:273697223.20160913070...@virbius.co.uk said to Richard: > RLD>> Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 6:42:35 PM, Richard L de S Clauson (rich...@virbius.co.uk) wrote: > > ... >>> email ends up much wider than the message plane in the 3-plane layout I use > ... >>> Are there any settings, including tweaking the underlying template or >>> definition or CSS files, that I can change to stop this really annoying >>> behaviour? > > No. > RLD>> Is anyone likely to answer my problem (above)? > > Yes. This is a bug in TB that was fixed 2 betas ago and is no longer > an issue in the next release. > Marck, Are you saying that if I now upgrade from 6.8.8 to 7.3.4 (the latest release) that emails formatted in the TheBat! HTML Viewer will look correct, and as good as those formatted in the Windows OS HTML Viewer? Richard -- Richard L de S Clauson, 0118-956-7775 or 07710-412815 email:mailto:rich...@virbius.co.uk website: http://www.virbius.co.uk/ ( more is hidden than viewable ! ) Virbius Business, 0844-588-1397 (fax 0870-879-1562) Using The Bat! v6.8.8 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems with size (width) of HTML messages using internal viewer
Dear Richard, @13-Sep-2016, 0:41 +0100 (13-Sep 07:00 here) Richard L de S Clauson [RLD] in mid:273697223.20160913070...@virbius.co.uk said to Richard: RLD> Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 6:42:35 PM, Richard L de S Clauson (rich...@virbius.co.uk) wrote: ... >> email ends up much wider than the message plane in the 3-plane layout I use ... >> Are there any settings, including tweaking the underlying template or >> definition or CSS files, that I can change to stop this really annoying >> behaviour? No. RLD> Is anyone likely to answer my problem (above)? Yes. This is a bug in TB that was fixed 2 betas ago and is no longer an issue in the next release. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v7.3.2 on Windows 10.0.14393 ' pgpZuqTj04j0I.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems with size (width) of HTML messages using internal viewer
Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 6:42:35 PM, Richard L de S Clauson (rich...@virbius.co.uk) wrote: > For quite some time (probably over 2 years) dome of the HTML (formatted) > emails I receive are formatted very badly by The Bat!. > > What is happening, and mainly caused by large embedded images, is that the > email ends up much wider than the message plane in the 3-plane layout I use > can display (folders all down left side, folder content top-right, message > bottom-right). > > When I temporarily switch from "Use The Bat! HTML viewer" to "Use Windows OS > HTML Viewer" the the email is re-sized to fit the Message plane. > > Are there any settings, including tweaking the underlying template or > definition or CSS files, that I can change to stop this really annoying > behaviour? > > Thanks, > Richard > Is anyone likely to answer my problem (above)? -- Richard L de S Clauson, 0118-956-7775 or 07710-412815 email:mailto:rich...@virbius.co.uk website: http://www.virbius.co.uk/ ( more is hidden than viewable ! ) Virbius Business, 0844-588-1397 (fax 0870-879-1562) Using The Bat! v6.8.8 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problems with size (width) of HTML messages using internal viewer
For quite some time (probably over 2 years) dome of the HTML (formatted) emails I receive are formatted very badly by The Bat!. What is happening, and mainly caused by large embedded images, is that the email ends up much wider than the message plane in the 3-plane layout I use can display (folders all down left side, folder content top-right, message bottom-right). When I temporarily switch from "Use The Bat! HTML viewer" to "Use Windows OS HTML Viewer" the the email is re-sized to fit the Message plane. Are there any settings, including tweaking the underlying template or definition or CSS files, that I can change to stop this really annoying behaviour? Thanks, Richard -- Richard L de S Clauson, 0118-956-7775 or 07710-412815 email:mailto:rich...@virbius.co.uk website: http://www.virbius.co.uk/ ( more is hidden than viewable ! ) Virbius Business, 0844-588-1397 (fax 0870-879-1562) Using The Bat! v6.8.8 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
