Re: Problems with size (width) of HTML messages using internal viewer

2016-10-30 Thread Marck Pearlstone
Dear Richard,

@30-Oct-2016, 9:29  +  (30-Oct 09:59 here) Richard L de S Clauson
[RLD] in mid:1285301168.20161030095...@virbius.co.uk said to TBUDL:  

... 
>>> email ends up much wider than the message plane in the 3-plane layout I 
>>> use
... 
>>> I'm not certain of the release state of the fixed version.
... 
RLD> I've now upgraded from v6.8.8 to v7.3.12, but not all the "extra wide"
RLD> emails are reformatted to fit inside the message pane of the triple-pane
RLD> window.  Most disappointed.

At  the  time  of writing HTML formatting had apparently been fixed in
the  latest  versions.  The BugTraq report has even been closed.

Since  then,  I  too have been disappointed to see images swelling the
HTML  again and have reported this to the developers. My apologies for
the mislead - entirely unintentional, I assure you. I will be pressing
RITlabs  to  re-open  the bug report to allow further investigation of
the issue.

-- 
Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! 
v7.3.12.4 (BETA) on Windows 10.0.14393

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Re: Problems with size (width) of HTML messages using internal viewer

2016-10-30 Thread Richard L de S Clauson
Saturday, September 24, 2016, 12:12:19 AM, Richard L de S Clauson 
(rich...@virbius.co.uk) wrote:
> Thursday, September 22, 2016, 1:42:15 PM, Marck Pearlstone 
> (ma...@silverstones.com) wrote:
>> Dear Richard,
>>
>> @22-Sep-2016, 6:03  +0100  (22-Sep 12:26 here) Richard L de S Clauson
>> [RLD] in mid:967995112.20160922122...@virbius.co.uk said to TBUDL:  
>>
>> ... 
>>
>> email ends up much wider than the message plane in the 3-plane layout I 
>> use
>>
 ... This is a bug in TB that was fixed 2 betas ago and is no longer
 an issue in the next release.
>>
RLD>>> Are you saying that if I now upgrade from 6.8.8 to 7.3.4 (the latest
RLD>>> release) that emails formatted in the TheBat! HTML Viewer will look 
correct,
RLD>>> and as good as those formatted in the Windows OS HTML Viewer?
>>
>> Essentially, yes.
>>
>> I wouldn't know whether or not they look "correct" since I haven't
>> compared. All I can say for certain is that this specific bug was
>> called out as a bug, addressed a month or so back in the beta version
>> and has been fixed. This fix has improved my personal reading of HTML
>> mails with embedded pictures to a point of near perfection rather than
>> sprawling the message to the width of the largest picture and not
>> scaling.
>>
>> I'm not certain of the release state of the fixed version.
>>
>
> Marck,
>
> That sounds excellent news.  One of my bug-bears with The Bat! was the way 
> that it sometimes failed to render an HTML email in a sufficiently readable 
> way when the sender was cavalier with the sizes of the images they supplied 
> and slack with the HTML code they used to define their output/display.
>
> I hope that this fix has also been replicated into the way emails are then 
> printed.  Even if the Windows OS HTML Viewer rendering option is chosen the 
> printing rendering reverts back to that of The Bat! HTML Viewer rendering.
>
> I'll now put in for an Upgrade licence fron v6.x to v7.x.
>
> Thanks
>


Marck,

I've now upgraded from v6.8.8 to v7.3.12, but not all the "extra wide" 
emails are reformatted to fit inside the message pane of the triple-pane 
window.  Most disappointed.

-- 
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email:mailto:rich...@virbius.co.uk
website:  http://www.virbius.co.uk/ ( more is hidden than viewable ! )
Virbius Business, 0844-588-1397 (fax 0870-879-1562)

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Re: Problems with size (width) of HTML messages using internal viewer

2016-09-23 Thread Richard L de S Clauson
Thursday, September 22, 2016, 1:42:15 PM, Marck Pearlstone 
(ma...@silverstones.com) wrote:
> Dear Richard,
>
> @22-Sep-2016, 6:03  +0100  (22-Sep 12:26 here) Richard L de S Clauson
> [RLD] in mid:967995112.20160922122...@virbius.co.uk said to TBUDL:  
>
> ... 
>
> email ends up much wider than the message plane in the 3-plane layout I 
> use
>
>>> ... This is a bug in TB that was fixed 2 betas ago and is no longer
>>> an issue in the next release.
>
RLD>> Are you saying that if I now upgrade from 6.8.8 to 7.3.4 (the latest
RLD>> release) that emails formatted in the TheBat! HTML Viewer will look 
correct,
RLD>> and as good as those formatted in the Windows OS HTML Viewer?
>
> Essentially, yes.
>
> I wouldn't know whether or not they look "correct" since I haven't
> compared. All I can say for certain is that this specific bug was
> called out as a bug, addressed a month or so back in the beta version
> and has been fixed. This fix has improved my personal reading of HTML
> mails with embedded pictures to a point of near perfection rather than
> sprawling the message to the width of the largest picture and not
> scaling.
>
> I'm not certain of the release state of the fixed version.
>

Marck,

That sounds excellent news.  One of my bug-bears with The Bat! was the way 
that it sometimes failed to render an HTML email in a sufficiently readable 
way when the sender was cavalier with the sizes of the images they supplied 
and slack with the HTML code they used to define their output/display.

I hope that this fix has also been replicated into the way emails are then 
printed.  Even if the Windows OS HTML Viewer rendering option is chosen the 
printing rendering reverts back to that of The Bat! HTML Viewer rendering.

I'll now put in for an Upgrade licence fron v6.x to v7.x.

Thanks

-- 
Richard L de S Clauson, 0118-956-7775 or 07710-412815
email:mailto:rich...@virbius.co.uk
website:  http://www.virbius.co.uk/ ( more is hidden than viewable ! )
Virbius Business, 0844-588-1397 (fax 0870-879-1562)

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Re: Problems with size (width) of HTML messages using internal viewer

2016-09-22 Thread Marck Pearlstone
Dear Richard,

@22-Sep-2016, 6:03  +0100  (22-Sep 12:26 here) Richard L de S Clauson
[RLD] in mid:967995112.20160922122...@virbius.co.uk said to TBUDL:  

... 

 email ends up much wider than the message plane in the 3-plane layout I use

>> ... This is a bug in TB that was fixed 2 betas ago and is no longer
>> an issue in the next release.

RLD> Are you saying that if I now upgrade from 6.8.8 to 7.3.4 (the latest
RLD> release) that emails formatted in the TheBat! HTML Viewer will look 
correct,
RLD> and as good as those formatted in the Windows OS HTML Viewer?

Essentially, yes.

I wouldn't know whether or not they look "correct" since I haven't
compared. All I can say for certain is that this specific bug was
called out as a bug, addressed a month or so back in the beta version
and has been fixed. This fix has improved my personal reading of HTML
mails with embedded pictures to a point of near perfection rather than
sprawling the message to the width of the largest picture and not
scaling.

I'm not certain of the release state of the fixed version.

-- 
Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v7.3.4.1 
(BETA) on Windows 10.0.14393 

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Re: Problems with size (width) of HTML messages using internal viewer

2016-09-22 Thread Richard L de S Clauson
Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 9:27:08 AM, Marck Pearlstone 
(ma...@silverstones.com) wrote:
> Dear Richard,
>
> @13-Sep-2016, 0:41  +0100  (13-Sep 07:00 here) Richard L de S Clauson
> [RLD] in mid:273697223.20160913070...@virbius.co.uk said to Richard:  
>
RLD>> Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 6:42:35 PM, Richard L de S Clauson 
(rich...@virbius.co.uk) wrote:
>
> ... 
>>> email ends up much wider than the message plane in the 3-plane layout I use
> ... 
>>> Are there any settings, including tweaking the underlying template or 
>>> definition or CSS files, that I can change to stop this really annoying 
>>> behaviour?
>
> No.
>
RLD>> Is anyone likely to answer my problem (above)?
>
> Yes. This is a bug in TB that was fixed 2 betas ago and is no longer
> an issue in the next release.
>

Marck,

Are you saying that if I now upgrade from 6.8.8 to 7.3.4 (the latest 
release) that emails formatted in the TheBat! HTML Viewer will look correct, 
and as good as those formatted in the Windows OS HTML Viewer?

Richard

-- 
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email:mailto:rich...@virbius.co.uk
website:  http://www.virbius.co.uk/ ( more is hidden than viewable ! )
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Re: Problems with size (width) of HTML messages using internal viewer

2016-09-13 Thread Marck Pearlstone
Dear Richard,

@13-Sep-2016, 0:41  +0100  (13-Sep 07:00 here) Richard L de S Clauson
[RLD] in mid:273697223.20160913070...@virbius.co.uk said to Richard:  

RLD> Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 6:42:35 PM, Richard L de S Clauson 
(rich...@virbius.co.uk) wrote:

... 
>> email ends up much wider than the message plane in the 3-plane layout I use
... 
>> Are there any settings, including tweaking the underlying template or 
>> definition or CSS files, that I can change to stop this really annoying 
>> behaviour?

No.

RLD> Is anyone likely to answer my problem (above)?

Yes. This is a bug in TB that was fixed 2 betas ago and is no longer
an issue in the next release.

-- 
Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v7.3.2 
on Windows 10.0.14393 

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Re: Problems with size (width) of HTML messages using internal viewer

2016-09-13 Thread Richard L de S Clauson
Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 6:42:35 PM, Richard L de S Clauson 
(rich...@virbius.co.uk) wrote:
> For quite some time (probably over 2 years) dome of the HTML (formatted) 
> emails I receive are formatted very badly by The Bat!.
>
> What is happening, and mainly caused by large embedded images, is that the 
> email ends up much wider than the message plane in the 3-plane layout I use 
> can display (folders all down left side, folder content top-right, message 
> bottom-right).
>
> When I temporarily switch from "Use The Bat! HTML viewer" to "Use Windows OS
> HTML Viewer" the the email is re-sized to fit the Message plane.
>
> Are there any settings, including tweaking the underlying template or 
> definition or CSS files, that I can change to stop this really annoying 
> behaviour?
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
>


Is anyone likely to answer my problem (above)?

-- 
Richard L de S Clauson, 0118-956-7775 or 07710-412815
email:mailto:rich...@virbius.co.uk
website:  http://www.virbius.co.uk/ ( more is hidden than viewable ! )
Virbius Business, 0844-588-1397 (fax 0870-879-1562)

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