Re: TB and XP new SP2...
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:32:03 +0200, MAU wrote: I don't use XP, but in a daily security newsletter I get they recommend delaying (or blocking) the installation of SP2 because some applications may cease to work. I use Office, TB, MS Streets Trips, a few imaging programs, a fefw newsreaders.. no problem here ( so far :) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:05:00 +0200, WilWilWil wrote: I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ? Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Because this upgrade seems to be very heavy ! I have SP2 installed, and have used all the new V2.13 betas, the V3.0 Beta/1 and now the V3.0 final version, without a problem. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
Zonnet @ 2004-Aug-30 3:54:51 AM TB and XP new SP2... mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Took me a few moments to disable the monitoring of the firewall and disable warnings about automatic updates. Was that not what the whole PS2 update was about? You just disabled most of a 260MB update :evillol: No. There were about 298 other things included in the update (See http://snipurl.com/8hfn ). The firewall was the most publicized. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Would a fly without wings be called a walk? pgpqxaXCuQ6Oj.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
Hi Wednesday, August 25, 2004, 11:05:00 PM, WilWilWil wrote: W I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service W Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ? Windows Update has not yet offered me SP2. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
Hello Bob, On 26 Aug 2004 at 13:14:29 +1000 GMT [05:14 CEST] you wrote: BM I don't use XP but if you want to avoid a very large download you can BM order the update on CD for free from Microsoft at this address: BM BM http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/sp2/cdorder/en_us/default.mspx I ordered my cd on Thursaday and today it arrived even though they said it could take 28 days. The cd includes the 260mb version of sp2 and some 200mb which seem to be mostly debugging tools not needed by the normal user. And of course a bit of documentation about sp2. The installation went flawlessly. No problems so far. A pleasant surprise is that avast shows up in the security centre. Took me a few moments to disable the monitoring of the firewall and disable warnings about automatic updates. -- Cheers, Andre If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
Hello, Thursday, August 26, 2004, 12:05:00 AM, you wrote: W I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service W Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ? No problem :-) -- Best regards, Prezes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/8, Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2 -- Portal INTERIA.PL zaprasza... http://link.interia.pl/f17cb Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
hello WilWilWil, @Donnerstag, 26. August 2004, 00:05 you wrote: I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ? Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Because this upgrade seems to be very heavy ! same here, no probs with sp2... -- regards, ralph Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
hello WilWilWil, @Donnerstag, 26. August 2004, 00:05 you wrote: I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ? Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Because this upgrade seems to be very heavy ! same here, no probs with sp2... -- regards, ralph Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
hello WilWilWil, @Donnerstag, 26. August 2004, 00:05 you wrote: I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ? Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Because this upgrade seems to be very heavy ! same here, no probs with sp2... -- regards, ralph Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello WilWilWil, On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] W Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and W Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Because this upgrade seems to W be very heavy ! I've just been notified that SP2 is now available for download but have decided not to use it, at least until a further bug fix version is put out. I do a manual search for Windows XP updates on a regular basis and that's the only time I use IE. I have never touched Outlook, nor do I use messenger. I have Kerio firewall and FProt virus checker so I feel, if it aint broke, don't fix it! - -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/7 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQA/AwUBQS2j3RqZtcDKk7W+EQLFAwCeI+fhVKL51Qrk5T+wzfapsS5vJ5QAoMAJ fhj6WmV/fhPX0nDOpMTA2jGH =aHWY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
hello WilWilWil, @Donnerstag, 26. August 2004, 00:05 you wrote: I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ? Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Because this upgrade seems to be very heavy ! same here, no probs with sp2... -- regards, ralph Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
hello WilWilWil, @Donnerstag, 26. August 2004, 12:03 you wrote: ==Original message text=== From: ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, August 26, 2004, 11:13:10 AM Subject: TB and XP new SP2... r hello WilWilWil, r @Donnerstag, 26. August 2004, 00:05 you wrote: I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ? Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Because this upgrade seems to be very heavy ! r same here, no probs with sp2... ===End of original message text=== You've got no problem with SP2 but you seem to have another problem : more than 6 times the same mail ! ;-) sorry, seems to be something wrong with my provider: i didn't receive a single one... -- regards, ralph Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
Hello MAU, Wednesday, August 25, 2004, 7:32:03 PM, you wrote: I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ? Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Because this upgrade seems to be very heavy ! I don't use XP, but in a daily security newsletter I get they recommend delaying (or blocking) the installation of SP2 because some applications may cease to work. It is expected that some applications will stop working on SP2. The reason is that SP2 is closing some doors for backwards compatibility out-of-the-box. Those sections of code for backwards compatibility was a security risk. But, if I'm not mistaken you can still run those applications by using the application compatibility settings, and that is supposed to make those applications run in their own little environment without breaching the security of the system. And another but, some applications might not run at all. Most of those applications are DOS and Win9x apps. I'll stop here, because this is OT. -- Best regards, Daniel Rail Senior Software Developer ACCRA Group Inc. (www.accra.ca) ACCRA Med Software Inc. (www.filopto.com) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
Hello Matt, Thursday, August 26, 2004, 1:40:49 AM, you wrote (possibly edited): I upgraded to SP2 on this machine (XP Pro) this morning and have been using TB all day with no issues yet... Same here, I updated it last night. -- Best regards, Costas Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
Ron Secord @ 2004-Aug-26 1:28:15 PM TB and XP new SP2... mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unfortunately, I can't install the SP2 update. I've followed all instructions and keep getting an Error Code: 8007F0CC Update Failed message. Of course, I can find absolutely nothing on the MS site about what Error Code: 8007F0CC is. Take a look at your C:\WINDOWS\WindowsUpdate.log and C:\WINDOWS\setupapi.log files and see if there is more information. Often these files contain the error from the individual component that failed. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 If little green men land in your back yard, hide any little green women you've got in the house. pgpsz9gEnetZT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
Hello WilWilWil, I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ? Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Because this upgrade seems to be very heavy ! I don't use XP, but in a daily security newsletter I get they recommend delaying (or blocking) the installation of SP2 because some applications may cease to work. ,- [ This is a quotation from an IT admin ] | Please click on this link to postpone delivery of a software update | to your computer until your IT organization has tested the update and | certified it for installation on your computer: | http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=33518 | | Once you click on the link, please select Open in the pop up dialog. | You will then be asked if you want to accept the End-User License | Agreement. After you select Yes, you should see a new window briefly | open and close on your computer. | | No further action is required. Thank you for your assistance. `- -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/7 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
On Wednesday, August 25, 2004 @ 3:32:03 PM [-0700], MAU wrote: I don't use XP, but in a daily security newsletter I get they recommend delaying (or blocking) the installation of SP2 because some applications may cease to work. ,- [ This is a quotation from an IT admin ] | Please click on this link to postpone delivery of a software update | to your computer until your IT organization has tested the update and | certified it for installation on your computer: | http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=33518 | | Once you click on the link, please select Open in the pop up dialog. | You will then be asked if you want to accept the End-User License | Agreement. After you select Yes, you should see a new window briefly | open and close on your computer. | | No further action is required. Thank you for your assistance. `- I upgraded to SP2 on this machine (XP Pro) this morning and have been using TB all day with no issues yet... -- Matt Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
WilWilWil wrote: I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ? Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Because this upgrade seems to be very heavy ! See http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/secnews/experience.mspx for Microsoft's outlook on your question. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
Hello WilWilWil! On Wednesday, August 25, 2004, 5:05 PM, you wrote: W Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft W Outlook and Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? W Because this upgrade seems to be very heavy ! It is 75 MB for a personal user. I downloaded and installed it yesterday afternoon and have had no problems with it. It doesn't conflict with any program on my machine. But I don't run any games. A good deal of the code seemed to be concerned with set-up. There was an automatic back-up of files and registry and a setting of a restore point. Only then did new files begin to be installed. There may be patches for things and changes that will help with future updates. However, as near as I can tell, the new Security System in SP2 does seem tp be the firewall and it does seem to constitute the main part of the Service Pack. I disabled that, because I prefer to use a different firewall. And I disabled a little notify function which constantly wanted to tell me I had no anti-virus, because Windows doesn't recognize the anti-virus program I use. I do like to use Internet Explorer from time to time, so I think I'm better off to have SP2. In the end, I think it may come down to individual choice, what's best to do in a particular XP user's situation. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
WilWilWil @ 2004-Aug-25 6:05:00 PM TB and XP new SP2... mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ? I have not had any problems so far. Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Although on the surface it may seem that SP2 only updates Internet Explorer, it actually fixes about three hundred problems. For a complete list, please see http://snipurl.com/8hfn Also, Internet Explorer is heavily integrated into all parts of the OS, so even if you don't use it directly, you still need to keep it updated. Because this upgrade seems to be very heavy ! As Mary said, the minimum download size is about 75 megabytes. However, if you need to install it on more than three computers, downloading the Windows XP Service Pack 2 Network Installation Package for IT Professionals and Developers from http://snipurl.com/8bqy -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 On a fence: Salesman Welcome. Dog food is expensive. pgpsUYX2B22fS.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
G'day WilWilWil, Thursday, August 26, 2004, 8:05:00 AM, you wrote: [snipped] Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Because this upgrade seems to be very heavy ! I don't use XP but if you want to avoid a very large download you can order the update on CD for free from Microsoft at this address: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/sp2/cdorder/en_us/default.mspx -- Bob Mo®®is Thursday, 26 August 2004 Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
