Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello MFPA, On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 20:55:48 + GMT (05-Mar-14, 03:55 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: >>> That's a known gmail peculiarity. >> In your POP settings, you have to add "recent:" before >> you username in order to receive messages that have >> already been downloaded by another computer. >> Example: My username is tom...@thebat.net, so in TB!'s >> transport settings for mail retrieval by POP, I have >> recent:tom...@thebat.net set as my username. > That's a positive innovation from google. When did they add that? I don't know, but it was there when I started using this email address. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 6.2.14 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hi On Tuesday 4 March 2014 at 2:39:34 AM, in , Thomas Fernandez wrote: >> That's a known gmail peculiarity. > In your POP settings, you have to add "recent:" before > you username in order to receive messages that have > already been downloaded by another computer. > Example: My username is tom...@thebat.net, so in TB!'s > transport settings for mail retrieval by POP, I have > recent:tom...@thebat.net set as my username. That's a positive innovation from google. When did they add that? -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Zorba the Greek - before he zorbas you Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello MFPA, On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 20:30:51 + GMT (04-Mar-14, 03:30 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: >> c. once gmail is downloaded to one computer, it will >> not download to the other computer. > That's a known gmail peculiarity. In your POP settings, you have to add "recent:" before you username in order to receive messages that have already been downloaded by another computer. Example: My username is tom...@thebat.net, so in TB!'s transport settings for mail retrieval by POP, I have recent:tom...@thebat.net set as my username. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 6.2.14 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hi On Monday 3 March 2014 at 9:52:33 AM, in , Achdut18 wrote: > b. mail that is sent from one computer is not > seen by the other computer unless I copy myself on the > message That's normal. > c. once gmail is downloaded to one computer, it will > not download to the other computer. That's a known gmail peculiarity. > So, it seems the only way to ensure that mail on > both computers is synched is to use some sort of > synching program. > On a related thread, "Adding The Bat to a new > computer on a home network" Jack La Rosa recommended > www.wuala.com to use for synching folders on two > computers. > Does everyone agree or do you have other suggestions > for this purpose? I have long thought about using a local POP server to download my messages from all accounts, and then pointing my TB! installation at that local server. I spent a couple of evenings looking into this again a few weeks ago, but drew a blank in the end. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Two wrongs don't make a right. But three lefts do. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello Achdut18, On Monday, March 03, 2014 you wrote: -- snip -- A> On a related thread, "Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home A> network" Jack La Rosa recommended www.wuala.com to use for synching A> folders on two computers. If you decide to use WUALA, I'd love to know if it does what you need it to do. After the initial setup the only hiccup I have ever experienced with WUALA is a *sometimes* message that tells me that WUALA had to close because of a program conflict. This always happens in the middle of the night when my computer is not being used by me but is engaged in crowd software solving the world's problems. It never happens during the times I'm using the computer. Simply re-starting WUALA gets it going again. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello Achdut18, > Well, having started this thread, I would like to bring it back to my > problem: which is synching the use of The Bat on two computers so > that I can access my accounts from either computer. You are right, let's get to your problem which, as you have seen, is not easy to solve if at all possible. Well, it would be if you used IMAP, but you are not for that. And I agree with you. > ...mail is allowed to remain on the server after download for at least > 90 days... I assume this is in your private domain, right? > ...with respect to gmail, forever,... And I assume this is with your current setting at Gmail, right? And that you don't want to leave your email at Gmail servers *forever*, right? Otherwise, if you didn't mind, then it would be best to use IMAP. > b. mail that is sent from one computer is not seen by the other > computer unless I copy myself on the message AFAIK, that is normal using POP accounts, CCing yourself wouldn't be needed with IMAP (I think). > c. once gmail is downloaded to one computer, it will not download to > the other computer. That's because it is marked as read with the first download. > When I look at the gmail settings for my account on the internet, I > see that POP is enabled for all mail after a given date in 2006; and > that IMAP is enabled. > > Thus, gmail is set up for BOTH POP and IMAP. That is my setup too, so I can access my email (by IMAP) from my phone and tablet. Have you tried to disable IMAP? I have not tried myself, but maybe doing so the account would just be (or behave) like a normal POP account like in your private domain. Why don't you crate a new Gmail account just for testing this? > I like the idea of being able to download the mail to my computer > rather than run the risk of having it sit out on a server in the > middle of who knows where. Same here. That is why my setting in Gmail is "delete Gmail's copy". The only "problem", which I don't mind at all, is that after I download messages with TB those messages will not be available from my tablet or phone. > So, it seems the only way to ensure that mail on both computers is > synched is to use some sort of synching program. > > On a related thread, "Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home > network" Jack La Rosa recommended www.wuala.com to use for synching > folders on two computers. > > Does everyone agree or do you have other suggestions for this purpose? I do. But I will still suggest creating a second Gmail account, disable IMAP and test. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v6.3.0.2 (ALPHA) My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Sunday, March 2, 2014, 8:58:52 AM, you wrote: M> Hello MFPA, >>> But you are talking about POP accounts >> >> Because that's how I access them. M> I know, but I mean a POP account at_the_server. Which is a completely M> different set up and functionality that IMAP accounts. >>> and, AFAIK, I may be wrong, Gmail is an IMAP account that allows >>> access by POP. In my case, I can access my account from phone or >>> tablet as IMAP, and from TB as POP. Well, having started this thread, I would like to bring it back to my problem: which is synching the use of The Bat on two computers so that I can access my accounts from either computer. After having placed a separate installation of TB on my new laptop for several days, and with the situation that each computer has its own message base, and with respect to both gmail and private domain accounts, mail is allowed to remain on the server after download for at least 90 days with respect to gmail, forever, I have been able to determine several things: a. mail on my private domains gets downloaded to both computers, so long as the download is within the time the mail is set to remain on the server b. mail that is sent from one computer is not seen by the other computer unless I copy myself on the message c. once gmail is downloaded to one computer, it will not download to the other computer. When I look at the gmail settings for my account on the internet, I see that POP is enabled for all mail after a given date in 2006; and that IMAP is enabled. Thus, gmail is set up for BOTH POP and IMAP. I like the idea of being able to download the mail to my computer rather than run the risk of having it sit out on a server in the middle of who knows where. So, it seems the only way to ensure that mail on both computers is synched is to use some sort of synching program. On a related thread, "Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network" Jack La Rosa recommended www.wuala.com to use for synching folders on two computers. Does everyone agree or do you have other suggestions for this purpose? -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 5.8.2 on WinXP pro sp3 and 6.0.0 on Win7pro Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hi On Sunday 2 March 2014 at 2:58:52 PM, in , MAU wrote: > Webmail does not define the type of server > (and service), it just a way of accessing it, an e-mail > client. You can access IMAP, as IMAP, with TB and many > other clients too. I would have said "webmail" exactly defines a service, although some webmail providers also enable (and may charge for) other interfaces such as POP/SMTP or IMAP. And some providers of POP or IMAP email accounts provide a "webmail" interface, or users can use portals such as mail2web. > I must admit that is a bit peculiar, yes. But, on the > other hand, I guess they assume that if you sent the > message you will already have a copy of it. And we all know what assume does. Ass u me. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net The truth is rarely pure and never simple Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello MFPA, >> But you are talking about POP accounts > > Because that's how I access them. I know, but I mean a POP account at_the_server. Which is a completely different set up and functionality that IMAP accounts. >> and, AFAIK, I may be wrong, Gmail is an IMAP account that allows >> access by POP. In my case, I can access my account from phone or >> tablet as IMAP, and from TB as POP. > > I don't know the specifics of how they set it up. I always considered > it to be webmail that allowed POP/SMTP just like yahoo, with the extra > of IMAP access just like gmx. Gmail is the other way around. It is IMAP which allows POP/SMTP. Webmail does not define the type of server (and service), it just a way of accessing it, an e-mail client. You can access IMAP, as IMAP, with TB and many other clients too. > just like not allowing POP download of incoming messages when you were > the sender of the message. I must admit that is a bit peculiar, yes. But, on the other hand, I guess they assume that if you sent the message you will already have a copy of it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v6.3.0.2 (ALPHA) My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hi On Saturday 1 March 2014 at 4:05:13 PM, in , MAU wrote: > But you are talking about POP accounts Because that's how I access them. > and, AFAIK, I > may be wrong, Gmail is an IMAP account that allows > access by POP. In my case, I can access my account from > phone or tablet as IMAP, and from TB as POP. I don't know the specifics of how they set it up. I always considered it to be webmail that allowed POP/SMTP just like yahoo, with the extra of IMAP access just like gmx. I suspect it is a deliberate decision by google, just like not allowing POP download of incoming messages when you were the sender of the message. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Ballerinas are always on their toes. We need taller ballerinas! Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello MFPA, >> And what you select here is what Gmail will do, completely ignoring, >> yes, whatever settings you have in TB. > > The settings in TB! effect what TB! tells the POP server during > message download. The fact that telling TB! to "keep messages on > server for X days" works with all providers except gmail suggests that > gmail deviates from the POP protocol. Or else that everybody else > does. But you are talking about POP accounts and, AFAIK, I may be wrong, Gmail is an IMAP account that allows access by POP. In my case, I can access my account from phone or tablet as IMAP, and from TB as POP. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v6.3.0.2 (ALPHA) My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hi On Saturday 1 March 2014 at 3:30:14 PM, in , MAU wrote: > Have you read my reply > to Achdut18? Yes. > Log in to your Gmail account and take a look to > "Settings (the button on the top right) -> Settings -> > Forwarding and POP/IMAP -> When messages are accessed > with POP". I'd bet your setting there is "delete > Gmail's copy". Without looking, I know that is what I have set there. I always pick the equivalent to that with any email provider. > And what you select here is what Gmail will do, > completely ignoring, yes, whatever settings you have > in TB. The settings in TB! effect what TB! tells the POP server during message download. The fact that telling TB! to "keep messages on server for X days" works with all providers except gmail suggests that gmail deviates from the POP protocol. Or else that everybody else does. It doesn't much matter: my gmail account is rarely used, and I usually download messages just once. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Wisdom is a companion to age; yet age may travel alone. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello MFPA, > For my gmail account, which I access by POP, the messages appear to be > deleted once downloaded despite my TB! setting to leave them on server > for X days afterwards. As well as being no longer available by POP, > messages I have downloaded are immediately missing via the gmail web > interface. Have you read my reply to Achdut18? Log in to your Gmail account and take a look to "Settings (the button on the top right) -> Settings -> Forwarding and POP/IMAP -> When messages are accessed with POP". I'd bet your setting there is "delete Gmail's copy". The possible settings there are: - delete Gmail's copy - keep Gmail's copy in the Inbox - mark Gmail's copy as read - archive Gmail's copy And what you select here is what Gmail will do, completely ignoring, yes, whatever settings you have in TB. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v6.3.0.2 (ALPHA) My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello Adrian, > Gmail ignores whatever is set in your email client. That is true. > When you set up POP, you have to choose between "mark Gmail copy as > read" and "Delete Gmail copy" at the website. I have four options: - delete Gmail's copy - keep Gmail's copy in the Inbox - mark Gmail's copy as read - archive Gmail's copy -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v6.3.0.2 (ALPHA) My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello MFPA, On Sat, 1 Mar 2014 12:19:55 + GMT (01-Mar-14, 19:19 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: >> Gmail also has the nasty habit of breaking email clients (the error >> log fills up with "web login required" if you access the Internet >> with a different IP address. > I have not had this with gmail, but one of my yahoo accounts does it. I have this with Gmail often, and it is annoying. >> Not unusual at all for people with laptops who travel. > Or for people without static IP addresses on their home connection. > Mine sometimes stays the same for a few months and sometimes changes > multiple times per day. For me, I have a dynamic IP adress at home but Gmail only blocks me out when I am travelling abroad. Somehow they figured that I travel to Cambodia often, so they don't log me out there. But when I went to Spain (Canary Islands), that was too much for them. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 6.2.6 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hi On Saturday 1 March 2014 at 12:09:27 PM, in , Adrian Godfrey wrote: > Gmail ignores whatever is set in your email client. Ignoring users' settings is certainly one version of interpreting them differently. > When you set up POP, you have to choose between > "mark Gmail copy as read" and "Delete Gmail copy" at > the website. Standard stuff for email services that have both POP and website access, but gmail is the only one I have encountered that fails to "keep messages on server for X days." > Gmail also has the nasty habit of breaking email > clients (the error log fills up with "web login > required" if you access the Internet with a > different IP address. I have not had this with gmail, but one of my yahoo accounts does it. > Not unusual at all for people > with laptops who travel. Or for people without static IP addresses on their home connection. Mine sometimes stays the same for a few months and sometimes changes multiple times per day. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net When it comes to humility, I'm the greatest. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Gmail ignores whatever is set in your email client. When you set up POP, you have to choose between "mark Gmail copy as read" and "Delete Gmail copy" at the website. Gmail also has the nasty habit of breaking email clients (the error log fills up with "web login required" if you access the Internet with a different IP address. Not unusual at all for people with laptops who travel. Adrian Saturday, March 1, 2014, 12:34:09 PM, you wrote: > I guess this depends on gmail's interpretation of your settings, which > may differ from everybody else's. > For my gmail account, which I access by POP, the messages appear to be > deleted once downloaded despite my TB! setting to leave them on server > for X days afterwards. As well as being no longer available by POP, > messages I have downloaded are immediately missing via the gmail web > interface Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hi On Thursday 27 February 2014 at 11:07:46 AM, in , Achdut18 wrote: > G-mail is left on the > server forever, so it's not as if it is being deleted > upon download. I guess this depends on gmail's interpretation of your settings, which may differ from everybody else's. For my gmail account, which I access by POP, the messages appear to be deleted once downloaded despite my TB! setting to leave them on server for X days afterwards. As well as being no longer available by POP, messages I have downloaded are immediately missing via the gmail web interface. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net I don't suffer from insanity I enjoy every minute of it. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
>> In my experience TB's internal backkup and restore is totally >> unreliable, and has been for years. It should either be repaired or >> removed ! > Well, I have used the internal backup and restore facility at several > occasions and have never had a problem (since v3 or so). Just did it > again on my new office computer earlier this month. I have on several occasions (including, just recently, "copying" my TB user directories and settings over to a new Win 7 desktop from my not-so-new Win 7 laptop) used the backup/restore functionality with complete success. Obviously, YMMV... These procedures were originally done with V.2.04.7, and have since (maybe the last 5 years or so) been done with V.4.2.44.2. [I still miss using ol' V.2.04.7, though... ] I do have to say that, many years ago, with V.2.04.7, I did try incremental (i.e., "create an update to an existing archive") backups for a short time (it seemed like a nice idea) and did get flaky results, but I since then (for about the last 14 years now, I think) I have used the complete (i.e., "standard") method with complete success. I routinely make two backups - one backup of just my settings and address book, and one a complete backup - every couple of months or so, just for safety's sake. However, when I set up a new installation of a new PC, I make a fresh pair of backups just before "restoring" TB on the new PC. Fred Using TheBat V.4.2.44.2 for POP3 mail with Windows 7 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello Chris, On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 08:19:38 + GMT (27-Feb-14, 15:19 +0700 GMT), Chris Wilson wrote: > In my experience TB's internal backkup and restore is totally > unreliable, and has been for years. It should either be repaired or > removed ! Well, I have used the internal backup and restore facility at several occasions and have never had a problem (since v3 or so). Just did it again on my new office computer earlier this month. As convenient and error-free as can be. @Achdut: The only one time I had a problem was when the external HDD to whch I had backed up was faulty. Please check for hardware problems. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 6.2.6 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello Achdut18, > Now there is a new problem: I downloaded e-mail from all my gmail > accounts and discovered that e-mail downloaded on to one computer does > not then load on to the second computer when mail is downloaded to the > second computer. In the wee hours of the morning, this is not a > problem, as there are few messages being sent, and they are most > unimportant. G-mail is left on the server forever, so it's not as if > it is being deleted upon download. Moreover, I can still see the newly > downloaded e-mail on my cell phone. AFAIK, you see email in your cell phone because it is using IMAP to access your account. What are you using in TB, POP or IMAP? If POP, what is your setting for "When messages are accessed with POP" in Settings -> Forwarding and POP/IMAP in your Gmail account? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v6.3.0.1 (ALPHA) My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello Chris, Thursday, February 27, 2014, 2:19:38 AM, you wrote: CW> Hello Achdut18, CW> On Thursday, February 27, 2014, you wrote: >> OK. Anxious to set up TB! on my new laptop, I was unable to wait for >> a response to my most recent post, and went ahead and followed the >> advice that Thomas Fernandez gave in his post from Feb. 18, 2014. CW> CW> In my experience TB's internal backkup and restore is totally CW> unreliable, and has been for years. It should either be repaired or CW> removed ! CW> I now use Second Copy, which you can trial with no usage restrictions CW> during the trial, or just RAR up the whole TB! directory structure and CW> transfer like that. I use RAR rather than ZIP as it seems the CW> resulting file is more compact, and its error checking is better. Thanks, Chris, I followed your advice and was able to just copy the whole TB directory. I didn't use ZIP or RAR; I just copied and pasted, although it took a while. Now there is a new problem: I downloaded e-mail from all my gmail accounts and discovered that e-mail downloaded on to one computer does not then load on to the second computer when mail is downloaded to the second computer. In the wee hours of the morning, this is not a problem, as there are few messages being sent, and they are most unimportant. G-mail is left on the server forever, so it's not as if it is being deleted upon download. Moreover, I can still see the newly downloaded e-mail on my cell phone. So, why does a download to one computer on the network preclude a download of the same mail to the second computer?Is it because the computers are using the IP address on the public side of the modem?If so, is there any solution besides using a synchronization program? Synchronization is fine while both computers are inside on the same network.But, if I go away for a business trip for a 2-4 days, and I download mail, then my wife won't see it until I return. Is there a solution? -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 5.8.2 on WinXP sp3 and 6.0.0 on Win 7 Pro Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello Achdut18, On Thursday, February 27, 2014, you wrote: > OK. Anxious to set up TB! on my new laptop, I was unable to wait for > a response to my most recent post, and went ahead and followed the > advice that Thomas Fernandez gave in his post from Feb. 18, 2014. In my experience TB's internal backkup and restore is totally unreliable, and has been for years. It should either be repaired or removed ! I now use Second Copy, which you can trial with no usage restrictions during the trial, or just RAR up the whole TB! directory structure and transfer like that. I use RAR rather than ZIP as it seems the resulting file is more compact, and its error checking is better. Quite why something as important and basic as an internal backup and restore function in an e-mail client remains broken and regularly reported as such, while frivolities are added, I have no idea :( -- Chris Wilson "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3" -- Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
