Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

2013-12-13 Thread Paul Berger
Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

Friday, December 13, 2013, 5:45:47 PM, you wrote:


T On 12/12/2013 you wrote:

 Actually you have to drag the shortcut all the way down into
 the task bar before you'll see that pin to task bar
 message.  If the task bar is accessible with the window from
 whence it came still open, you can just drag it straight
 down into the task bar from that window.  I didn't know if
 you had the TheBat folder opened full screen or not.  You
 don't really have to drop the shortcut on the desktop first
 as I suggested earlier.  And, just to make sure, even if the
 task bar is locked the shortcut can still be dropped into
 it.  I just checked.

T I'll give it another shot then .. Thanks again!




Note that The Bat now uses its old icon for the task bar and its new
one for the desktop - 2 different icons for the same program.


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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

2013-12-13 Thread Rick
I'll give it another shot then .. Thanks again!
If you are on XP it will have to drag to the quick launch section on the far 
left next to the start button. This works for 7 and 8

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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

2013-12-13 Thread TheLimit

On 12/13/2013 you wrote:

 If you are on XP it will have to drag to the quick launch
 section on the far left next to the start button. This works for 7 and 8

Sorry,  but  it  doesn't do that here. Win7, SP 1. I just ran the
Win updates, FWTW.

Ignore  the sig. I have no idea where TB! is finding it, but it's
not the sig the template points to. Thanks, though!

Cheers!

-- 
Lynn


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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

2013-12-12 Thread TheLimit

On 12/8/2013 you wrote:


 Huh?  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment but I can
 create a TB! shortcut and pin it to the taskbar with no
 problem. I now have a Bat icon on my taskbar.


I  can't  either.  At all. I've tried every way I could think of.
The  links don't come up, period. Every time it has to be started
with a 'search for software' .

It's  annoying,  but less so than the filters, the sig files, the
sudden sloowness ... those are dealbreakers.

Still fighting for it, but running out of steam. This sig, for
instance, must exist on my system somewhere, but it is NOT
current. I'm running Win7 at SP 1, or thought I was, and TB! is
now at 5.8.10 for a certainty .. unless the install failed
catastrophically with no messages, but put the old version up.
Where'd it get it from??? Sig files are hard linked in the
folder/address templates!

Hanging in ...

-- 
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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

2013-12-12 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Lynn,

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 you wrote:


T On 12/8/2013 you wrote:


 Huh?  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment but I can
 create a TB! shortcut and pin it to the taskbar with no
 problem. I now have a Bat icon on my taskbar.


T I  can't  either.  At all. I've tried every way I could think of.
T The  links don't come up, period. Every time it has to be started
T with a 'search for software' .

Well, I might be able to help with some of this stuff.  Lets
try getting a TB!  shortcut on your task bar.  First, close
all open windows on your desktop.  Second, if you're running
Win 7, go to START+COMPUTER.  When the window opens up
double-click LOCAL COMPUTER, then double-click PROGRAM FILES
(x86), locate and open (double-click) the folder THE BAT!,
right-click on TheBat.exe.  From the menu which appears
choose CREATE SHORTCUT.  A TB!  shortcut
(TheBat.exe-shortcut) will appear below TheBat.exe.
Left-click and drag that shortcut to your desktop and drop
it there.  Close all open windows, left-click and drag the
shortcut down into the task bar and release.  A dialog box
should appear saying pin to task bar which it now should
be.  Now delete the shortcut remaining on your desktop as
it's no longer necessary.  That's how I got my TB!  shortcut
onto my task bar.  The same can be done for any program on
your computer.

As far as the sudden slooowness, I can't help there.
Your sig, maybe.  My sig looks like this:



-- 
TIA,
Jack LaRosa
:usflag: Central Alabama

Using The Bat! ver: %THEBATVERSION.
Running %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME Pro ver %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION build 
%WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION
%SetEditor=1%
%SetHeader(X-Rogue,:Deuxdad:)%-

%ACCOUNT=Jack LaRosa



The macros (all preceded with a percent sign) will supply
the correct information when you select the template you're
going to use.  As to where TB!  gets the template to use, as
there are several places to create templates, that's a
secret known only to select grand masters of TB!  I joke of
course but I always have a helluva time figuring out which
template I need to modify to accomplish any changes.

It may be that your sig(s) have text instead of macros in
them which is why they haven't changed.  For one thing as
you are probably already aware, the cut mark has to be
DASH+DASH+SPACE+RETURN to work correctly.

There are templates in the AB of course but also in ACCOUNT
PROPERTIES and FOLDER PROPERTIES.  I think that's all.
Which template gets used under which circumstances has
always been a mystery to me and I've successfully
accomplished changes only through trial and error (mostly
error).

Hope some of this helps.

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:usflag: Central Alabama



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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

2013-12-12 Thread TheLimit

On 12/12/2013 you wrote:

 Close all open windows, left-click and drag the
 shortcut down into the task bar and release.  A dialog box
 should appear saying pin to task bar which it now should
 be.  Now delete the shortcut remaining on your desktop as
 it's no longer necessary.  That's how I got my TB!  shortcut
 onto my task bar.  The same can be done for any program on
 your computer.

The  only one requiring it seems to be TB!. I'll try later when I
reboot.

 As far as the sudden slooowness, I can't help there.
 Your sig, maybe.  My sig looks like this:

Actually,  mine  is  very  much  simpler, but this is NOT the sig
which  is  indexed to this folder. Yes, I use the macros, yes, it
worked, not for months or a couple of versions, for YEARS.

I  haven't  had  a  chance  to dig around and find out where it's
getting  this  file,  or  why  it isn't honoring the links in the
templates.  It takes so long to plow through the mail and file it
manually that I haven't got there yet. Nor to the filters.

But  it  would  be  a  help not to have to load it manually every
time,  so  thanks  again!  At  this rate, I'm going to owe you my
first born son! lol!

Don't hold your breath ... I'm past the relevant age :-)

Cheers!

-- 
Lynn


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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

2013-12-12 Thread TheLimit

On 12/12/2013 you wrote:

 Well, I might be able to help with some of this stuff.  Lets
 try getting a TB!  shortcut on your task bar.  First, close
 all open windows on your desktop.  Second, if you're running
 Win 7, go to START+COMPUTER.  When the window opens up
 double-click LOCAL COMPUTER, then double-click PROGRAM FILES
 (x86), locate and open (double-click) the folder THE BAT!,
 right-click on TheBat.exe.  From the menu which appears
 choose CREATE SHORTCUT.  A TB!  shortcut
 (TheBat.exe-shortcut) will appear below TheBat.exe.
 Left-click and drag that shortcut to your desktop and drop
 it there.  Close all open windows, left-click and drag the
 shortcut down into the task bar and release.  A dialog box
 should appear saying pin to task bar which it now should
 be.  Now delete the shortcut remaining on your desktop as
 it's no longer necessary.  That's how I got my TB!  shortcut
 onto my task bar.  The same can be done for any program on
 your computer.


Jack,  I  just  did all that.

Filemgr  -  TB!folder - thebat!.exe - right click. Make shortcut.
Copy shortcut (drag) to desktop - right click

No links to 'pin to ..' anything at all, not on the task bar, not
on the menu, not from the icon on the desktop, nor from the icon
on the taskbar after TB! is loaded. In fact, before sending this,
I just went to the file manager and checked to make sure those
links wouldn't appear on the .exe icon, on right clicking it. I'll
check again after closing TB!, but I don't expect anything
different.

Some  of  this  stuff may be WinDoze being 'helpful', but I'm not
discovering anything there, either.

The  weird  thing  is  that  now  TB! and some other packages are
loading  at  much  lower  resolution  than they were, or probably
should  be.  I'll pick the brain of the guy who loaded the system
here  this time.  I never used to let anyone load my systems, and
maybe  I need to go back to that, but he really is very much more
knowledgeable  than  I, and he offered ... and it was a gift, and
one  shouldn't look gift horses in the mouth, should one? Or have
they changed that rule since I was in school ..?

lol!  I do appreciate the help, though. It really is beginning to
seem like anything I touch goes badly south these days.

Cheers!

-- 
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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

2013-12-12 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Lynn,

On Friday, December 13, 2013 you wrote:


T On 12/12/2013 you wrote:

 Well, I might be able to help with some of this stuff.

T Jack,  I  just  did all that.

T Filemgr  -  TB!folder - thebat!.exe - right click. Make shortcut.
T Copy shortcut (drag) to desktop - right click

Actually you have to drag the shortcut all the way down into
the task bar before you'll see that pin to task bar
message.  If the task bar is accessible with the window from
whence it came still open, you can just drag it straight
down into the task bar from that window.  I didn't know if
you had the TheBat folder opened full screen or not.  You
don't really have to drop the shortcut on the desktop first
as I suggested earlier.  And, just to make sure, even if the
task bar is locked the shortcut can still be dropped into
it.  I just checked.


-- 
Best Regards, 
Jack LaRosa
:usflag: Central Alabama



Using The Bat! ver: 5.2.
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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

2013-12-12 Thread TheLimit

On 12/12/2013 you wrote:

 Actually you have to drag the shortcut all the way down into
 the task bar before you'll see that pin to task bar
 message.  If the task bar is accessible with the window from
 whence it came still open, you can just drag it straight
 down into the task bar from that window.  I didn't know if
 you had the TheBat folder opened full screen or not.  You
 don't really have to drop the shortcut on the desktop first
 as I suggested earlier.  And, just to make sure, even if the
 task bar is locked the shortcut can still be dropped into
 it.  I just checked.

I'll give it another shot then .. Thanks again!


-- 
Lynn


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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

2013-12-08 Thread Rick
2) Is there a separate download for the 64bit version of TB? I saw Maxim's 
email on 64bit version on TBBeta, hence question.

Install the MSI files then copy the 64 bit exe to the program folder. 6.0.12 
has a lot of problems but I have not found any real show stoppers other than 
the AVs

-- 
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Cannot open file C:\ProgramData\The Bat!\cookies\politics.txt

v6.0.12 on Windows 6.2 Build  9200

Using all POP accounts
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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

2013-12-08 Thread Paul Berger
Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

Monday, December 9, 2013, 4:51:48 AM, you wrote:

GS Hello TBUDL,

GS I have a few questions.

GS 1)  Has there been many problems with the new v6?

GS 2)  Is  there  a separate download for the 64bit version of TB? I saw
GS Maxim's email on 64bit version on TBBeta, hence question.

GS 3)  Has anybody upgraded to the 64 bit version of TB without problems?

GS Sorry  I  haven't  been  keeping  up with the list.  Too busy!

GS I have upgraded the old WinXP to Windows 8 64 bit version earlier this
GS year. Just upgraded to Windows 8.1 from Windows 8.0 with BAD
GS experience. I thought it unusual for the upgrade of Windows taking
GS well over the 1-2 hours per instructions. After the upgrade I found it
GS unusual that a Citrix window was open when I only use Citrix to log
GS into work remotely. I have huge concerns with security for work. After
GS the upgrade I also didn't like the fact that I had to log onto MY PC
GS using a Microsoft account rather than my password.

GS Thank goodness for old disk imaging software for backup because I've
GS now downgraded back to Windows 8.0. Given the bad experience with
GS Windows I thought it appropriate to ask the question above before
GS upgrading TB.

GS Still using TB email client on my main PC after all these years. :)

GS Take Care!



Only one little annoyance.

In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar.


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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

2013-12-08 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Paul,

On Sunday, December 08, 2013 you wrote:

PB Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

PB Monday, December 9, 2013, 4:51:48 AM, you wrote:

GS Hello TBUDL,

GS I have a few questions.

GS 1)  Has there been many problems with the new v6?


PB Only one little annoyance.

PB In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar.

Huh?  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment but I can
create a TB! shortcut and pin it to the taskbar with no
problem. I now have a Bat icon on my taskbar.





-- 
Best Regards, 
Jack LaRosa
:usflag: Central Alabama



Using The Bat! ver: 5.2.
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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

2013-12-08 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Greg,
Sunday, December 8, 2013, 7:51:48 PM, among other things, you wrote:

GS 3)  Has anybody upgraded to the 64 bit version of TB without problems?
In my computer it is unuseable.  It will not send or receive messages. There is 
still a lot to be done.

The 32 bit version is useable but at this stage gives little or no advantage
over version 5.8.10.

I give next a copy of what Maxim said when alpha testing started:

What's  new  in  this ALPHA (English):

1.  Support of IDN (Internationalized Domain Names) in email addresses.

2.   The  Bat!   version  6,  unlike  previous  versions, is a fully-Unicode
application.   This  gives  advantages  to the users that work with multiple
languages  simultaneously.   While previous versions worked mostly well with
multiple  languages  in  file  names, subject lines, etc., there were places
that  a  language  different  that Windows-default language “for non-Unicode
programs” might not work well in The Bat!.

3.   There  will  be  64-bit  version of thebat.exe also available alongside
32-bit version.

4.  There is a new sorting office option – extract files by masks.

-- 
Best regards,
  
 Roger 

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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

2013-12-08 Thread Paul Berger
Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

Monday, December 9, 2013, 11:30:09 AM, you wrote:

JSL Hello Paul,

JSL On Sunday, December 08, 2013 you wrote:

PB Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

PB Monday, December 9, 2013, 4:51:48 AM, you wrote:

GS Hello TBUDL,

GS I have a few questions.

GS 1)  Has there been many problems with the new v6?


PB Only one little annoyance.

PB In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar.

JSL Huh?  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment but I can
JSL create a TB! shortcut and pin it to the taskbar with no
JSL problem. I now have a Bat icon on my taskbar.







Thanks - just tried again and it now works.


-- 



Paul

-
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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

2013-12-08 Thread Paul Berger
Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

Monday, December 9, 2013, 11:58:11 AM, you wrote:

PVN 12/8/2013  7:51 PM

PVN Hi Paul,

PVN On 12/8/2013 Paul Berger wrote:

PB Only one little annoyance.

PB In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar.

PVN On the System Tray at the right end of the TaskBar 
PVN  Click on Customize



Thanks now OK.


-- 



Paul

-
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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

2013-12-08 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Paul,

On Sunday, December 08, 2013 you wrote:

PB Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

PB Monday, December 9, 2013, 4:51:48 AM, you wrote:

GS Hello TBUDL,

GS I have a few questions.

GS 1)  Has there been many problems with the new v6?


PB Only one little annoyance.

PB In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar.

Huh?  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment but I can
create a TB! shortcut and pin it to the taskbar with no
problem. I now have a Bat icon on my taskbar.





-- 
Best Regards, 
Jack LaRosa
:usflag: Central Alabama



Using The Bat! ver: 5.2.
Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1



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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

2013-12-08 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Paul,

On Sunday, December 08, 2013 you wrote:

PB Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

PB Monday, December 9, 2013, 4:51:48 AM, you wrote:

GS Hello TBUDL,

GS I have a few questions.

GS 1)  Has there been many problems with the new v6?


PB Only one little annoyance.

PB In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar.

Huh?  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment but I can
create a TB! shortcut and pin it to the taskbar with no
problem. I now have a Bat icon on my taskbar.


-- 
Best Regards, 
Jack LaRosa
:usflag: Central Alabama



Using The Bat! ver: 5.2.
Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 



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