Re: spontaneous sending of outbox messages
Hello MFPA, On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 11:46:07 +0100 GMT (12-Apr-14, 17:46 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: > On Friday 11 April 2014 at 2:53:39 PM, in > , Thomas Fernandez wrote: >> Actually, no. I did not expect the draft to be sent >> just because I reopened it to work on it again. > Well, I wouldn't expect it *just* because I had re-opened it for > editing. Having finished editing, unless I saved it as a draft again, > I would expect it to be sent on the next send/receive operation for > that account. Sure, as long as I put in in the Outbox. While I am still editing it, the previous version was sent - in an earlier version of TB!, as I said. It has been fixed. > The only problem I have experienced with re-opening drafts for editing > is that TB! cancels the message's "sign when completed" and "encrypt > when completed" settings, replacing them with the defaults in the > account settings. TB! does not tell you it has done this, so messages > you thought were going to be encrypted can easily end up being sent > "in the clear". There were a couple of bug reports about this before > Ritlabs' server failure wiped out the bugtracker; I don't see any > entries about this problem in the current bugtracker, so maybe it has > been fixed in a more recent version. No, I am not talking about PGP or MIME signing. I have never used that and wouldn't know whether it works in TB! or not. >> But never mind, it's water down the bridge, and the bug >> has been fixed. > All's well that ends well. Right. Let's stop this conversation. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 6.2.14 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spontaneous sending of outbox messages
Hi On Friday 11 April 2014 at 2:53:39 PM, in , Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Actually, no. I did not expect the draft to be sent > just because I reopened it to work on it again. Well, I wouldn't expect it *just* because I had re-opened it for editing. Having finished editing, unless I saved it as a draft again, I would expect it to be sent on the next send/receive operation for that account. The only problem I have experienced with re-opening drafts for editing is that TB! cancels the message's "sign when completed" and "encrypt when completed" settings, replacing them with the defaults in the account settings. TB! does not tell you it has done this, so messages you thought were going to be encrypted can easily end up being sent "in the clear". There were a couple of bug reports about this before Ritlabs' server failure wiped out the bugtracker; I don't see any entries about this problem in the current bugtracker, so maybe it has been fixed in a more recent version. > But never mind, it's water down the bridge, and the bug > has been fixed. All's well that ends well. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net If you save the world too often, it begins to expect it Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spontaneous sending of outbox messages
Hello MAU, On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 13:10:25 +0200 GMT (11-Apr-14, 18:10 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: >> Yet another reason that I have been asking for a "Draft" folder folder >> for years! > Once upon a time I was also a strong 'defender' of having a separate > Draft folder. But then I came to the conclusion that it would hardly > change anything. If you had a message in Draft folder and opened it in > editor, you would still need to choose between the two current options: > 'Put message in Outbox' or 'Save message as draft' Interesting to learn that you changed your mind. I do agree with your current opinion. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 6.2.14 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spontaneous sending of outbox messages
Hello MFPA, On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 22:24:53 +0100 GMT (11-Apr-14, 04:24 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: >> However, there was one TB! version that sent out draft messages >> when they were reopened in the editor. > That would be expected behaviour, unless the message was again saved > as a draft. Actually, no. I did not expect the draft to be sent just because I reopened it to work on it again. But never mind, it's water down the bridge, and the bug has been fixed. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 6.2.14 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spontaneous sending of outbox messages
Hello David, > On Thu, 10 Apr 2014, at 22:24:53 [which was on Thursday at 22:24 where > I live] you wrote: > >> On Thursday 10 April 2014 at 2:15:47 PM, in >> , Thomas Fernandez wrote: > > >>> However, there was one TB! version that sent out draft >>> messages when they were reopened in the editor. > >> That would be expected behaviour, unless the message was again saved >> as a draft. > > Yet another reason that I have been asking for a "Draft" folder folder > for years! Once upon a time I was also a strong 'defender' of having a separate Draft folder. But then I came to the conclusion that it would hardly change anything. If you had a message in Draft folder and opened it in editor, you would still need to choose between the two current options: 'Put message in Outbox' or 'Save message as draft' -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v6.3.2.3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spontaneous sending of outbox messages
Hi On Thursday 10 April 2014 at 2:15:47 PM, in , Thomas Fernandez wrote: > However, there was one TB! version that sent out draft > messages when they were reopened in the editor. That would be expected behaviour, unless the message was again saved as a draft. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Working hard. Please interrupt at once. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spontaneous sending of outbox messages
Hello MAU, On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 11:26:34 +0200 GMT (10-Apr-14, 16:26 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: >> I place it in the outbox for later reference for the content, but >> there is no intention to mail the letter. > Do you just 'Put message in Outbox' or 'Save message as draft'? If the > second, it should never be sent. I can confirm. As long as there is a "Parked" icon in front of the message in the message list, it does not get sent. I have one account with 18 draft messages sitting there for years. (I need to clean up, I know). However, there was one TB! version that sent out draft messages when they were reopened in the editor. Achdut, which TB! version are you using, and have you re-opened the messages in question? -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 6.2.14 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spontaneous sending of outbox messages
Hello Achdut18, > I place it in the outbox for later reference for the content, but > there is no intention to mail the letter. Do you just 'Put message in Outbox' or 'Save message as draft'? If the second, it should never be sent. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v6.3.2.3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
