Re: [teampractices] Why are WMF Department/team pages on mediawiki.org?

2015-05-25 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 05/22/2015 04:36 PM, Greg Grossmeier wrote: For me, mostly due to keeping things in one[0] place. It's easier mentally to keep team pages and project pages (where project pages are more sensibly on mw.org) together since our teams are heavily technical/based on MediaWiki development. Yes, I

Re: [teampractices] Why are WMF Department/team pages on mediawiki.org?

2015-05-25 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 05/22/2015 06:12 PM, Kevin Smith wrote: Thanks for the context! S: Yes, my first sentence was meant to be TPG-specific. I lost that in editing right before I hit send. Restricted access on mwfoundation is a pretty good argument for not going there. Having one place to go sounds good in

Re: [teampractices] Why are WMF Department/team pages on mediawiki.org?

2015-05-22 Thread S Page
cc'ing guillom who AIUI set up the Wikimedia engineering reporting. On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Kevin Smith ksm...@wikimedia.org wrote: Naively, it seems like our home page should be on wikimediafoundation.org rather than mediawiki.org. You're only talking about Team Practices Group

Re: [teampractices] Why are WMF Department/team pages on mediawiki.org?

2015-05-22 Thread Greg Grossmeier
quote name=Kevin Smith date=2015-05-21 time=15:14:25 -0700 Naively, it seems like our home page should be on wikimediafoundation.org rather than mediawiki.org. The org-specific pages are on wikimediafoundation (staff pages, job postings etc). For engineering departments, it is less clear, but

Re: [teampractices] Why are WMF Department/team pages on mediawiki.org?

2015-05-22 Thread Alex Monk
On 22 May 2015 at 17:12, Kevin Smith ksm...@wikimedia.org wrote: Restricted access on mwfoundation is a pretty good argument for not going there. This sort of term ('mwfoundation') is part of the problem. There are distinctions between MediaWiki (the generic wiki software), Wikimedia (largest

Re: [teampractices] Why are WMF Department/team pages on mediawiki.org?

2015-05-22 Thread Kevin Smith
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Guillaume Paumier gpaum...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi, [I see that Kevin has responded to say that his original question was about the Team Practices pages specifically, but since the scope of this thread has expanded beyond that, and since I'm almost done

Re: [teampractices] Why are WMF Department/team pages on mediawiki.org?

2015-05-21 Thread Alex Monk
Thank you for this email, Kevin. This is something that's bugged me for several years as a mediawiki.org administrator - are these pages actually within the site scope https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:About#What_MediaWiki.org_is? (I don't think I've ever deleted a page for it, but they don't

[teampractices] Why are WMF Department/team pages on mediawiki.org?

2015-05-21 Thread Kevin Smith
Naively, it seems like our home page should be on wikimediafoundation.org rather than mediawiki.org. For engineering departments, it is less clear, but since the entire department structure is an artifact of the WMF, and not of the mediawiki software, my gut reaction would be the same. Technical

Re: [teampractices] Why are WMF Department/team pages on mediawiki.org?

2015-05-21 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity)
A few thoughts... Putting anything on wikimediafoundation.org a) greatly limits the number of people who can edit/update the pages at all (IIRC not all staff have had accounts created at that wiki. And non-staff have to request an account via meta