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From: Vitaliy Makkoveev <m...@openbsd.org>
Date: Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: pppx(4): move ifnet out of KERNEL_LOCK()
To: Sven F. <sven.falem...@gmail.com>


What reaction do you expect? Look, you did something and you got panic
with *not* modified system. What is expected you will do? At least you
described your actions which caused issue. It's great if you know how to
reproduce it and you also describe required actions. Also dmesg(8)
output welcomed. That's all. It's not expected you have C or OpenBSD
internals knowledge. It's not expected you have a solution to fix. But
without things I described above your problem report is *useless*. Also
we have bugs@ list to report bugs. I guess posting to tech@ is welcomed
if you understand the problem you caught and you have solution.

Did you anything of things above? No you *didn't*. You have system
modified by yourself. You caught panic. Who knows what did you modify?
May be you are the person who introduced issue? Who ever knows? Do you
expect someone of developers will spend his time and do your work
instead of you? Are you serious?

The second your appearance. You did something and you caught panic with
generic system. You posted dmesg(8) output. Ok, but where is the
description of actions you did? Imagine, you are the first person who
caught this issue. We have no telepathy skills, your report is useless.

But well, I looked in your dmesg(8) output and the problem looks the
same problem with I work. I answered you what works is in progress.
Also I said you there is no quick solution for. And my solution can be
rejected by other developers. So there is nothing to share yet.

The problem is not secret, but you looks not the person who understand
the reasons which caused problems. Also your posts about netlock show
you as person which don't understand haw this subsystem works. Do you
remember I asked you what is the data you propose to protect by netlock?
Looks like you don't understand the meaning of rwlocks. What is the
reason for me or other developers to have discussion with you? To teach
you how to code? What is my interest?

And don't assume my reply as "fuck off stupid user". It's *not*. I spend
my time to explain you obvious things. If you are skilled enough, if you
understand what you do - you are welcomed. But you should *describe* the
problem and *describe* what you are doing. That's enough. If you are
wrong you will be corrected. But unfortunately it's looks like it's not
about you.


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