Re: OpenBSD/NTRU policy mismatch [Was: NTRU Open Source Project / Post-quantum era]

2015-05-28 Thread ertetlen barmok
...@yandex.com Apparently from: owner-tech+m42...@openbsd.org To: tech@openbsd.org Subject: OpenBSD/NTRU policy mismatch [Was: NTRU Open Source Project / Post-quantum era] Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 20:50:29 +0200 On 25/05/15 02:50:50 PM, Douglas Ray wrote: 2. The FOSS exception clause above won't help

Re: OpenBSD/NTRU policy mismatch [Was: NTRU Open Source Project / Post-quantum era]

2015-05-27 Thread Okembe Mbwambo
26.05.2015, 23:08, Chris Cappuccio ch...@nmedia.net:  FWIW, a BSD-licensed NTRU implementation exists at https://github.com/tbuktu/libntru and while it is patent encumbered, it offers a compile switch that causes it to become patent free in 2017 as opposed to the GPL implementation which

OpenBSD/NTRU policy mismatch [Was: NTRU Open Source Project / Post-quantum era]

2015-05-26 Thread Okembe Mbwambo
On 25/05/15 02:50:50 PM, Douglas Ray wrote: 2. The FOSS exception clause above won't help with existing OpenBSD policy, insofar as I understand it here: http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html [note section towards end on GPL under Specific Cases] FWIW, a BSD-licensed NTRU implementation

OpenBSD/NTRU policy mismatch [Was: NTRU Open Source Project / Post-quantum era]

2015-05-25 Thread Douglas Ray
Thanks William and Ertetlen for clarifying: On 25/05/15 10:09 PM, William Whyte wrote: Hi Ertetlen, The base license for NTRU is GPL v2 or higher. However, there's a license to distribute NTRU under GPL alongside open source projects that exist under other licenses: see details at

Re: OpenBSD/NTRU policy mismatch [Was: NTRU Open Source Project / Post-quantum era]

2015-05-25 Thread Theo de Raadt
No clarification needed: NTRU is patented, with no free for all patent grant. It is a complete non-starter for OpenBSD or OpenSSH. Damien is right. It is patented, meaning they want money. They are willing to allow GPL projects to play along, because this creates a base to extract money from

Re: OpenBSD/NTRU policy mismatch [Was: NTRU Open Source Project / Post-quantum era]

2015-05-25 Thread Damien Miller
No clarification needed: NTRU is patented, with no free for all patent grant. It is a complete non-starter for OpenBSD or OpenSSH. On Tue, 26 May 2015, Douglas Ray wrote: Thanks William and Ertetlen for clarifying: On 25/05/15 10:09 PM, William Whyte wrote: Hi Ertetlen, The base