Re: Removing old video drivers

2020-05-20 Thread Dirk Praet
OpenBSD's model and philosophy match both my requirements and expectations perfectly, Theo. I'm just not too fond of stuff unexpectedly breaking - admittedly because I missed out on this specific thread -, but for which Stuart's tip is an excellent mitigation indeed. Kind regards, Dirk --

Re: Removing old video drivers

2020-05-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2020/05/19 14:23, Dirk Praet wrote: > > A manual xorg config with the vesa driver brought X back to life, but not > > until I set machdep.allowaperture=2 in /etc/sysctl.conf . Thanks for your > > reply, Matthieu. I do hope 6.7 doesn't come with similar surprises,

Re: Removing old video drivers

2020-05-19 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2020/05/19 14:23, Dirk Praet wrote: > A manual xorg config with the vesa driver brought X back to life, but not > until I set machdep.allowaperture=2 in /etc/sysctl.conf . Thanks for your > reply, Matthieu. I do hope 6.7 doesn't come with similar surprises, though Run -current between

Re: Removing old video drivers

2020-05-19 Thread Dirk Praet
A manual xorg config with the vesa driver brought X back to life, but not until I set machdep.allowaperture=2 in /etc/sysctl.conf . Thanks for your reply, Matthieu. I do hope 6.7 doesn't come with similar surprises, though -- Sent from:

Re: Removing old video drivers

2020-05-12 Thread Matthieu Herrb
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 09:40:30AM -0700, Dirk Praet wrote: > Hi Matthieu, > > It would seem I'm a bit (too) late to this party. In short: I'm running a > high security environment leveraging the combined power of contemporary > OpenBSD and ancient i386 hardware stuffed with RAM, but untouched by

Re: Removing old video drivers

2020-05-11 Thread Dirk Praet
Touché. I should probably rephrase this as "operating a slightly less insecure environment as compared to running vanilla Windows 10 on contemporary COTS hardware". And finding it really hard to throw away perfectly good hardware that suited the intended purposes really well until Matthieu

Re: Removing old video drivers

2020-05-11 Thread Theo de Raadt
Dirk Praet wrote: > Hi Matthieu, > > It would seem I'm a bit (too) late to this party. In short: I'm running a > high security environment leveraging the combined power of contemporary ^ > OpenBSD and ancient i386 hardware stuffed with RAM, but untouched by all

Re: Removing old video drivers

2020-05-11 Thread Dirk Praet
Hi Matthieu, It would seem I'm a bit (too) late to this party. In short: I'm running a high security environment leveraging the combined power of contemporary OpenBSD and ancient i386 hardware stuffed with RAM, but untouched by all kinds of modern BIOS/EFI/processor "management" technology. My

Re: Removing old video drivers

2019-05-11 Thread Matthieu Herrb
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 06:47:23PM +0200, Matthieu Herrb wrote: > Hi, > > In xenocara, we still build a number of video drivers for very old > hardware, that is mostly useless. For AGP, I don't have a working > motherboard to test the cards I still have. > I also still have a few PCI cards for

Re: Removing old video drivers

2019-04-23 Thread Craig Skinner
On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 11:55:01 +0200 Matthieu Herrb wrote: > If you are actually running X, ... Not on the old "S3 Trio3D AGP" Pentium II 350MHz machines Matthieu, (these are used as small servers, some with VGA glass tube screens). > This is an Intel chipset supported by the current DRM

Re: Removing old video drivers

2019-04-23 Thread Matthieu Herrb
On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 10:28:18AM +0100, Craig Skinner wrote: > On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 18:47:23 +0200 Matthieu Herrb wrote: > > If you're still using a machine with a graphics card supported by one > > of these, please speak up, otherwise they are going to be removed: > > Is this a valid way to

Re: Removing old video drivers

2019-04-23 Thread Craig Skinner
On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 18:47:23 +0200 Matthieu Herrb wrote: > If you're still using a machine with a graphics card supported by one > of these, please speak up, otherwise they are going to be removed: Is this a valid way to find out Matthieu? $ grep -i -e vga -e video /var/run/dmesg.boot vga1 at

Re: Removing old video drivers

2019-04-22 Thread Tim Chase
(sorry this isn't coming with In-Reply-To/References headers as I read Matthieu's post on marc.info via Mastodon) > So rather that try to blindly fix the issues with these drivers I'd > rather remove them. This is the list of candidates for removing. > > If you're still using a machine with a

Removing old video drivers

2019-04-22 Thread Matthieu Herrb
Hi, In xenocara, we still build a number of video drivers for very old hardware, that is mostly useless. For AGP, I don't have a working motherboard to test the cards I still have. I also still have a few PCI cards for some of them, but most of them are dead, or don't work as primary display with