Re: preparing multitouch support - request for tests

2015-12-16 Thread Mike Larkin
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 12:59:00PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: > Tati Chevron wrote: > > But I don't see that touch-based devices are ever going to become the most > > common devices to run OpenBSD, that's not realistic. Even ignoring servers > > and headless devices, and only counting devices

Re: preparing multitouch support - request for tests

2015-12-16 Thread Matthieu Herrb
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 04:11:21PM +, Tati Chevron wrote: > > The touchscreen interfaces I have to use, principally on mobile phones, > are cumbersome and irritate me no end. Multitouch support is not only about touchscreens. There are also modern touchpads (and not only the Apple one) which

Re: preparing multitouch support - request for tests

2015-12-16 Thread Tati Chevron
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 02:47:10PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: Tati Chevron wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:13:36AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: >Your emails only contain opinions. "Questions, comments, suggestions and any kind of help would also be welcome". Sorry if I mis-understood the

Re: preparing multitouch support - request for tests

2015-12-16 Thread Joerg Jung
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 02:32:44AM +0100, Ulf Brosziewski wrote: > Ping? No further thoughts on this, no tests? Do I have to conclude that > most people are happy with wsmouse as it is? Yes and no. As I told you earlier, I think your diffs contain some very good work and are required for further

Re: preparing multitouch support - request for tests

2015-12-16 Thread Tati Chevron
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 06:29:23PM +0100, Stefan Sperling wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 05:10:45PM +, Tati Chevron wrote: why does it have to be integrated into the same mouse driver that everybody else uses? Since you seem to care about this topic enough to actually contend with what

Re: preparing multitouch support - request for tests

2015-12-16 Thread Tati Chevron
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 12:59:00PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: Tati Chevron wrote: But I don't see that touch-based devices are ever going to become the most common devices to run OpenBSD, that's not realistic. Even ignoring servers and headless devices, and only counting devices that are used

Re: preparing multitouch support - request for tests

2015-12-16 Thread Theo de Raadt
> >Ulf's mails have diffs attached, and yours don't. Easy choice. > > I don't see the connection. I definately see a connection. Your emails only contain opinions.

Re: preparing multitouch support - request for tests

2015-12-16 Thread Tati Chevron
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:13:36AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: Your emails only contain opinions. "Questions, comments, suggestions and any kind of help would also be welcome". Sorry if I mis-understood the purpose of a mailing list. -- Tati Chevron Perl and FORTRAN specialist. SWABSIT

Re: preparing multitouch support - request for tests

2015-12-16 Thread Ted Unangst
Tati Chevron wrote: > But I don't see that touch-based devices are ever going to become the most > common devices to run OpenBSD, that's not realistic. Even ignoring servers > and headless devices, and only counting devices that are used interactively > in some way, I just don't see tablet

Re: preparing multitouch support - request for tests

2015-12-16 Thread Theo de Raadt
> >Tati Chevron wrote: > >> But I don't see that touch-based devices are ever going to become the most > >> common devices to run OpenBSD, that's not realistic. Even ignoring > >> servers and headless devices, and only counting devices that are used > >> interactively in some way, I just don't

Re: preparing multitouch support - request for tests

2015-12-16 Thread Ulf Brosziewski
On 12/16/2015 03:11 PM, Matthieu Herrb wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 02:32:44AM +0100, Ulf Brosziewski wrote: Ping? No further thoughts on this, no tests? Do I have to conclude that most people are happy with wsmouse as it is? Hi, I'd like to see things move forward, but I currently lack

Re: preparing multitouch support - request for tests

2015-12-16 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 12:55:03PM +, Tati Chevron wrote: > Sorry to be negative, but I just don't see the perceived value in this. You wouldn't want to use OpenBSD on a trouchscreen computer if you had one? Where windows can be moved or resized depending on how many fingers you use to touch

Re: preparing multitouch support - request for tests

2015-12-16 Thread Matthieu Herrb
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 02:32:44AM +0100, Ulf Brosziewski wrote: > Ping? No further thoughts on this, no tests? Do I have to conclude that > most people are happy with wsmouse as it is? Hi, I'd like to see things move forward, but I currently lack time to do anything serious on this. One thing

Re: preparing multitouch support - request for tests

2015-12-16 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 04:11:21PM +, Tati Chevron wrote: > >So I believe this work is important. > > I think it's much more important to look at the impact on existing use cases, > before making changes and introducing a lot of new code that the end user > can't easily disable, and

Re: preparing multitouch support - request for tests

2015-12-15 Thread Ulf Brosziewski
Ping? No further thoughts on this, no tests? Do I have to conclude that most people are happy with wsmouse as it is? I'm aware that the diff isn't small, but anything smaller would make some of the remaining parts void and possibly blur the concept. The core of the approach is actually quite

Re: preparing multitouch support - request for tests

2015-12-07 Thread Matthieu Herrb
On Thu, Dec 03, 2015 at 12:20:15AM +0100, Ulf Brosziewski wrote: > The diffs below contain a complete and extensive rewrite of the > input-processing parts of wsmouse and the interface it provides to > the hardware drivers. It prepares the support for various kinds of > multitouch input, as well

Re: preparing multitouch support - request for tests

2015-12-07 Thread Ulf Brosziewski
Hi, here are the diffs again, as tgz archive (it's the version I posted last week, which doesn't include the latest bug fix: hilms is incomplete in that version and won't work with tablets, only with mice). On 12/07/15 15:59, Matthieu Herrb wrote: On Thu, Dec 03, 2015 at 12:20:15AM +0100, Ulf

preparing multitouch support - request for tests

2015-12-02 Thread Ulf Brosziewski
The diffs below contain a complete and extensive rewrite of the input-processing parts of wsmouse and the interface it provides to the hardware drivers. It prepares the support for various kinds of multitouch input, as well as an extended support for touchpads by wsmouse. Tests for regression