On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 01:12:54AM -0400, Brynet wrote:
| Daniel wrote:
| Same here. Really, I'm surprised that anyone is using the 'users'
| group at all these days, especially on OpenBSD. If all users are in
| the same group, group permissions are no different from world
| permissions.
|
Paul de Weerd wrote:
Welcome, to the real world. Users are incapable of just about
anything. Except for fucking things up, they're extremely good at
that. Live with it.
So wait, are you for or against creating lone groups for individual users?
All I was trying to communicate is that the
* Brynet bry...@gmail.com [2010-10-30 11:12]:
All I was trying to communicate is that the exposure of a users home
directory is something that must be dealt with by system administrators
or preferably by the individual users themselves.
[ ] you grok sane defaults
--
Henning Brauer,
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Brynet bry...@gmail.com wrote:
Daniel wrote:
Same here. Really, I'm surprised that anyone is using the 'users'
group at all these days, especially on OpenBSD. If all users are in
the same group, group permissions are no different from world
permissions.
I
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Brynet bry...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe the real problem here is that you're allowing users on your
systems that are incapable of properly setting the group/world
permissions of their home directories.
My employer lets a variety of people on their systems -
The installer defaults to creating accounts with group users, adduser
creates a group for each user. Sync the two.
Takes effect only if /etc/addusers.conf is regenerated, ie. new
installations.
Index: adduser.perl
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RCS file:
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 02:29:50PM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
Hi Tobias,
i'm not sure as i don't use tools like adduser(8) and useradd(8),
and i doubt they are widely used among developers anyway. I think
they are around mostly because some people are used to them from
other
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:52:46AM +0200, Tobias Ulmer wrote:
The installer defaults to creating accounts with group users, adduser
creates a group for each user. Sync the two.
Takes effect only if /etc/addusers.conf is regenerated, ie. new
installations.
This should lead to at least the
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org
wrote:
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 02:29:50PM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
...
This topic came up last year as well, including the same useradd/adduser
confusion:
http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openbsd-tech/2009/5/8/5660874
* Philip Guenther guent...@gmail.com [2010-10-29 19:48]:
Back in my pure sysadmin days, I found that when users all (or almost
all) share a default group like users, then it isn't easy enough for
normal users to leverage other groups for shared access to files and
directories. Because the
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Henning Brauer
lists-openbsdt...@bsws.de wrote:
* Philip Guenther guent...@gmail.com [2010-10-29 19:48]:
Group-per-user setups solve this by letting people safely have a umask
of 007 or 002. When they do work in a directory whose group is a
secondary group,
Daniel wrote:
Same here. Really, I'm surprised that anyone is using the 'users'
group at all these days, especially on OpenBSD. If all users are in
the same group, group permissions are no different from world
permissions.
I believe the real problem here is that you're allowing users on
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