On Sun, Feb 09, 2020 at 01:15:59AM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Theo de Raadt wrote on Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 04:39:42PM -0700:
>
> > For complicated configurations, the text could explain the reason the
> > example is valuable -- for instance
> >
> > .It Pa /etc/examples/bgpd.conf
> > Ex
On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 11:04:10PM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
> Hi Theo,
>
> you have a point, that was a lot of cheap talk and no patch.
>
> I don't aim at changing yacc(1) grammars. I think most parts of
> OpenBSD configuration systems already have sane defaults and most
> configuration synta
Ingo Schwarze wrote:
> Theo de Raadt wrote on Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 04:39:42PM -0700:
>
> > For complicated configurations, the text could explain the reason the
> > example is valuable -- for instance
> >
> > .It Pa /etc/examples/bgpd.conf
> > Example configuration file demonstrating IBGP mesh,
Hi,
Theo de Raadt wrote on Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 04:39:42PM -0700:
> For complicated configurations, the text could explain the reason the
> example is valuable -- for instance
>
> .It Pa /etc/examples/bgpd.conf
> Example configuration file demonstrating IBGP mesh, multiple transits,
> RPKI filte
On Sun, Feb 09, 2020 at 12:33:42AM +0100, Joerg Jung wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a machine with a large data storage attached, but it has only 2GB
> of /tmp (which I consider enough usually). On this machine weekly
> locate.updatedb fails, due to /tmp being full. To fix this I would like
> to point
On Sun, Feb 09, 2020 at 12:33:06AM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Jason McIntyre wrote on Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 10:15:08PM +:
>
> > - i'm ok with adding the path to these files to a FILES section
>
> So, here is a specific patch for bgpf.conf(5) and bgpd(8) such
> that we can agree on
Ingo Schwarze(schwa...@usta.de) on 2020.02.09 00:33:06 +0100:
> Hi,
>
> Jason McIntyre wrote on Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 10:15:08PM +:
>
> > - i'm ok with adding the path to these files to a FILES section
>
> So, here is a specific patch for bgpf.conf(5) and bgpd(8) such
> that we can agree on a
For complicated configurations, the text could explain the reason the
example is valuable -- for instance
+.It Pa /etc/examples/bgpd.conf
Example configuration file demonstrating IBGP mesh, multiple transits,
RPKI filtering, and other best practices.
The same idea can carry to other files. I've
Hi,
I have a machine with a large data storage attached, but it has only 2GB
of /tmp (which I consider enough usually). On this machine weekly
locate.updatedb fails, due to /tmp being full. To fix this I would like
to point locate to a different TMPDIR.
But it seems one can not just set TMPDIR
Hi,
Jason McIntyre wrote on Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 10:15:08PM +:
> - i'm ok with adding the path to these files to a FILES section
So, here is a specific patch for bgpf.conf(5) and bgpd(8) such
that we can agree on a general direction for one case where
the example file is particularly importa
Ingo Schwarze wrote:
> Indeed. When i talk about quality of documentation - which i did
> at multiple conferences, last time 2018 in Bucuresti - one of the
> first sentences i almost always say is:
>
> Documentation must be correct, complete, concise, all in one
> place, marked up for displ
Hi Theo,
Theo de Raadt wrote on Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 03:33:37PM -0700:
> Jason McIntyre wrote:
>> without getting into a discussion about /etc/examples, in this case i
>> personally see neither the point of the example config file (so trivial
>> as to be questionable) nor the addition to the ma
ok
Florian Obser(flor...@openbsd.org) on 2020.02.07 16:49:08 +0100:
> Slightly tweaked diff by me, fixing "new sentence new line" in the man
> page.
>
> This is OK florian@ if someone wants to commit it or I can commit it
> if someone OKs it.
>
> diff --git httpd.conf.5 httpd.conf.5
> index f4ea
On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 03:33:37PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> Jason McIntyre wrote:
>
> > without getting into a discussion about /etc/examples, in this case i
> > personally see neither the point of the example config file (so trivial
> > as to be questionable) nor the addition to the man pag
On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 03:33:37PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> Jason McIntyre wrote:
>
> > without getting into a discussion about /etc/examples, in this case i
> > personally see neither the point of the example config file (so trivial
> > as to be questionable) nor the addition to the man pag
Jason McIntyre wrote:
> without getting into a discussion about /etc/examples, in this case i
> personally see neither the point of the example config file (so trivial
> as to be questionable) nor the addition to the man page (if the example
> is worthwhile, add it to mixerctl, not the conf page)
On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 11:04:10PM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
> Hi Theo,
>
> you have a point, that was a lot of cheap talk and no patch.
>
> I don't aim at changing yacc(1) grammars. I think most parts of
> OpenBSD configuration systems already have sane defaults and most
> configuration synta
On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 01:37:00PM -0800, Kyle Isom wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020, at 23:22, Jason McIntyre wrote:
> > if we do reference these config files from the man pages, i guess that
> > should be correctly done from a FILES section, since EXAMPLES is really
> > showing how to use the tool, r
Hi Theo,
you have a point, that was a lot of cheap talk and no patch.
I don't aim at changing yacc(1) grammars. I think most parts of
OpenBSD configuration systems already have sane defaults and most
configuration syntaxes are already good with respect to simplicity
and usability. At least "mos
On Fri, Feb 7, 2020, at 23:22, Jason McIntyre wrote:
> if we do reference these config files from the man pages, i guess that
> should be correctly done from a FILES section, since EXAMPLES is really
> showing how to use the tool, rather than how to configure it. it is a
> fine line though.
>
> i
On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 01:17:56PM -0600, Scott Cheloha wrote:
> lcd_softc.sc_delay's unit appears to be microseconds.
>
> ok?
1 month bump.
Index: dev/lcd.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/arch/hppa/dev/lcd.c,v
retrieving revision 1.4
d
On 08/02 17:33, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
I have no idea what your target audience is and what (if any) your
mission staement is. Assumptions
are being made pertaining to the end user skill set and this is already
a slippery slope.
> Hi,
>
> i think i said it before: i hate /etc/examples/ and thin
Ingo Schwarze wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i think i said it before: i hate /etc/examples/ and think that the
> directory ought to be mostly empty.
We'll get to that.
With the exception of rare
> cases like bgpd(8), where you have to provide a lot of information
> before you can start it in any meaning
On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 05:33:34PM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i think i said it before: i hate /etc/examples/ and think that the
> directory ought to be mostly empty. With the exception of rare
> cases like bgpd(8), where you have to provide a lot of information
> before you can start
The header defines two sets of assert macros,
one for standard C and another for the traditional cpp. As the header
requires the use of a C compiler (that is, no inclusion from an assembly
file), it looks that the non-__STDC__ parts could be removed.
OK?
Index: lib/libkern/libkern.h
Zero knotes on allocation. Parts of struct knote, such as kn_tqe, can
retain their old value quite long, which is not good in this complex
piece of code.
OK?
Index: kern/kern_event.c
===
RCS file: src/sys/kern/kern_event.c,v
retrievi
Hi,
i think i said it before: i hate /etc/examples/ and think that the
directory ought to be mostly empty. With the exception of rare
cases like bgpd(8), where you have to provide a lot of information
before you can start it in any meaningful way, i consider a deamon
ill-designed if the configur
On Thu, Feb 06, 2020 at 12:45:38PM +0100, Stefan Sperling wrote:
> At 36c3 I noticed roaming failures with iwm(4) where we would get stuck
> trying to roam to a different AP. Debugging this with bluhm@ we found
> that the reason it gets stuck is a non-zero refcount on the ic_bss node.
>
> When roa
On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 02:21:02PM +0100, Martin Pieuchot wrote:
> As recently profiled, the softnet thread which runs mostly without
> KERNEL_LOCK() is still somehow serialized with the rest of the kernel.
> This is because the various subsystems to notify userland, either via
> poll(2)/select(2),
May be a notation in the afterboot man page. Users generally stumble across
/etc/examples by pure luck and after considerable time.
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