remove appletalk from netintro(4)

2014-05-30 Thread Remi Locherer
Support for Appeltalk (sys/netatalk) was removed about 3 years ago but netintro(4) still mentions it. Remi Index: netintro.4 === RCS file: /cvs/src/share/man/man4/netintro.4,v retrieving revision 1.44 diff -u -p -r1.44 netintro.4

Re: remove appletalk from netintro(4)

2014-05-30 Thread Philip Guenther
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:35 PM, Remi Locherer remi.loche...@relo.ch wrote: Support for Appeltalk (sys/netatalk) was removed about 3 years ago but netintro(4) still mentions it. Zapped. Thanks! Philip Guenther

Re: 9p

2014-05-30 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Thursday 29 May 2014 19:17:25, M Farkas-Dyck wrote: On 29/05/2014, Ted Unangst t...@tedunangst.com wrote: The first question is why not use fuse? I think it's better to have one userland filesystem interface than two. We already have 2: fuse, nfs. • 9p can operate over arbitrary

Re: 9p

2014-05-30 Thread Bob Beck
I actually agree that it might not be a bad thing. However, as we've seen with lots of things that touch vfs it's pretty easy to get to 80 or 90 percent functionality and then the last 10% is a royal red pain in the butt, with possibly awful crashing bugs. So I'm certainly not averse to someone

Re: 9p

2014-05-30 Thread Theo de Raadt
However, as we've seen with lots of things that touch vfs it's pretty easy to get to 80 or 90 percent functionality and then the last 10% is a royal red pain in the butt, with possibly awful crashing bugs. The word possibly makes that sentence too optimistic.

Re: 9p

2014-05-30 Thread Bob Beck
Yes, that's true. you *WILL* have awful crashing or hanging bugs to chase ;) Welcome to the midlayer. Wine bottles are optional but highly recommended. On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: However, as we've seen with lots of things that touch vfs it's

Re: 9p

2014-05-30 Thread Theo de Raadt
Yes, that's true. you *WILL* have awful crashing or hanging bugs to chase ;) Welcome to the midlayer. Wine bottles are optional but highly recommended. And dual purpose. 1) drink it with pleasure in the company of a VFS hacker 2) when the midlayer breaks, beat the VFS hacker over the head

Re: 9p

2014-05-30 Thread Bob Beck
Most VFS hackers would say there is a third purpose. but don't scare him away yet... On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: Yes, that's true. you *WILL* have awful crashing or hanging bugs to chase ;) Welcome to the midlayer. Wine bottles are

smtpd fixes backport

2014-05-30 Thread Ted Unangst
There have been some rather important fixes to smtpd since 5.5 release. If you're using smtpd on 5.5, you probably want to apply them. (My plan is to commit to stable eventually, but since it's very important not to introduce regressions, I'm asking for a little help testing the backport.) ++

Re: 9p

2014-05-30 Thread M Farkas-Dyck
Stefan Fritsch s...@sfritsch.de wrote: [1] https://bitbucket.org/iru/o9fs/overview Thanks for the link; this could be useful. Bob Beck b...@obtuse.com wrote: So I'm certainly not averse to someone working on it, but it would have to be solid and with people to love it before it ever made it

Re: 9p

2014-05-30 Thread Bob Beck
You pick. But before you do think about how to test it. On 30 May 2014 19:19, M Farkas-Dyck strake...@gmail.com wrote: Stefan Fritsch s...@sfritsch.de wrote: [1] https://bitbucket.org/iru/o9fs/overview Thanks for the link; this could be useful. Bob Beck b...@obtuse.com wrote: So I'm

Re: 9p

2014-05-30 Thread M Farkas-Dyck
Ls seems to stat the directory and allocate a large enough dent buffer. I couldn't find what ls calls to do so, but I assume that it's a common function and other programs use it too. Problem is that directories in 9p customarily have length 0, so ls says every such directory empty. Getdents